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@HudiTheGhost
@HudiTheGhost Күн бұрын
i want you to know that your mic was so bad i said "yeah im not sitting through an hour of this" and am going to watch something else. invest in your setup please!
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 21 сағат бұрын
That's fair, I'm working on making it better it's been a known issue that I've tried to fix with limited success.
@haloidiot005
@haloidiot005 Күн бұрын
What really annoys me is this detachment is so close to being really good for vehicle Eldar but they just misplaced some things. If they just made layered wards a 5+ fnp just in general, it would be a great strat and maybe make a scorpion or something actually really cool and interesting. And lastly 3, if they just made soul sight the army rule and skilled crews the stratagem. The I think this detach would become the way to spam Eldar tanks (minus prisms). However if battle focus works on vehicles when we get the codex, this detachment would have been just be perfect for an Yme-Loc player like me. But unfortunately that's not the case and this detach is just objectively worse than battle host for tankdari.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 21 сағат бұрын
Totally agree i really hope the codex comes and fixes a lot of the issues with the detachment.
@AvsYoutube
@AvsYoutube Күн бұрын
great report guys, was exciting to see both detatchments in action!!
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
Thank you! Was a fun game!
@nativeExarch
@nativeExarch Күн бұрын
Yo Proxy, dead of night, you guys are a couple of solid dudes, glad to watch this game, glad to see some interesting tactics, Proxy, something you and I talked about before, you emphasize don't let any partially killed units hang around for too long because they can still do actions, and they can basically become an action monkey, and that's how you scored One of your secondaries I believe, and it was awesome to see that in real time, dead of night, the maneuverability with the fire dragon bomb is really awesome, especially with the new attachment. You can put it where you want it, you have a lot of versatility with it, so that was really bad ass to see, seeing the scorpions with Kahandras coming out of falcon was awesome, especially considering I'm actually gonna start using that, I wonder if you would've ran triple prisms if that would've changed anything, amazing game, from two amazing players, and I consider myself blessed to be able to learn from both of you.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
Dude glad you enjoyed it! Some solid armies on both sides with me just having a big swing turn that spiked super hard on damage being the deciding factor, will have more bat reps like this out in the future!
@nativeExarch
@nativeExarch Күн бұрын
@ most definitely, you are really making me think about this detachment, it's honestly awesome, I was thinking about it, and I'm really glad that they're allowing all aspects of Aeldari to work together in some capacity, this actually gets me hyped for the Harlequin's detachment.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
@ Ya man for sure! Can’t wait for the coming codex!
@Cake92077
@Cake92077 Күн бұрын
Proxy what is your opinion on the emperors children
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
They are my second favorite chaos legion but honestly unless they get a bunch of new models and Datasheets I won’t be that excited for them 😑
@harryk9141
@harryk9141 Күн бұрын
I think you made a mistake splitting the kabalites as they weren't in the venom
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
I put the Kabalites with the Court of the Archon in the Raider 😊 the extra 5 man I had in strat reserve to pull obj duty but honestly I think I’m going to drop the conductor of torment archon. He really doesn’t do anything and flipping the wager has felt sort of useless as I don’t have all that many Quins and they start the game losing the wager anyways
@appleztree4567
@appleztree4567 Күн бұрын
Good battle report! Reaper’s wager looks really fun
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
It’s super fun! Made a few greedy mistakes but it was a blast to play honestly
@hyweldda5119
@hyweldda5119 Күн бұрын
I think you should take more troupe's on this detachment because they really have a lot more damage potential than in battle host. Their just brilliant in big blob's with deep strike or infiltration. 5 man squad's in starweavers also solid choice. I personally stole idea from exile wargaming with double weavers with troupes and one big infiltration unit for every my list
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
Ya I need to lean more into the troupes! A big infiltrate troupe is a good idea as well!
@ExileWargaming
@ExileWargaming Күн бұрын
Good stuff guys! RW can be VERY punishing 😅. Good game.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
Helps if you roll good dice too lol 😂
@ExileWargaming
@ExileWargaming Күн бұрын
@ProxyHammer1 it always tends to balance out though. Good game
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
@@ExileWargaming Very true!
@nativeExarch
@nativeExarch Күн бұрын
My money's on the elves.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
Good bet! 😂
@Azarune
@Azarune Күн бұрын
oh Fuck a TTS match! That is awesome! I hope that we see more battle reports to see your talked about strats in real time practice! Best wishes!
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Күн бұрын
There will be more for sure!
@abcdodd
@abcdodd 2 күн бұрын
OMG! Spankings!? :)
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 2 күн бұрын
Haha 😆
@AustinRouse-q5s
@AustinRouse-q5s 2 күн бұрын
Absolutely love your content! Don't ever change, among if not the best Eldar content provider hands down!
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 2 күн бұрын
Thank you my friend! Refreshed and ready to put out more content for the new year! 🙏😎
@Bob-l7m2g
@Bob-l7m2g 2 күн бұрын
Why are you mixing dark eldar and regular eldar here? There seoerate armies no?
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 2 күн бұрын
I put them in there for people who want to play Ynnari
@Bob-l7m2g
@Bob-l7m2g 2 күн бұрын
@ProxyHammer1 oh cool I was confused as I didn't know about ynnari, makes sense. Could I also play Harlequins with ynarri, using there wager rules? In effect having three armies, thought this would be cool.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 2 күн бұрын
@@Bob-l7m2g Well unfortunately you can play Reapers wager with quins but not also using ynnari because reaper's wager is specifically druhkari
@Ohiogoats816
@Ohiogoats816 3 күн бұрын
you can only put the thing with infiltrate and stealth on harlequins
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 3 күн бұрын
Good to know! Ya I realized that after the video and was like… 😑
@Ohiogoats816
@Ohiogoats816 2 күн бұрын
@@ProxyHammer1 is it still S tier though, cuz it is an S tier unit in the other detatchments
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 2 күн бұрын
@@Ohiogoats816 Ya its still S tier
@OneEyed_Jack
@OneEyed_Jack 4 күн бұрын
SIN-tillating and ma-CAWB. JS
@jackblack9605
@jackblack9605 4 күн бұрын
Hard disagree with the first rule. The best advice I got when choosing a 40K army was to pick one that looks cool. You'll spend a lot of time painting and assembling, so it's important to enjoy the faction's aesthetic and lore. While understanding the army's playstyle is necessary, the details can be learned over time. Focusing only on playstyle can lead to losing interest, but if you connect with the army’s look and story, you’ll stay motivated and engaged, making the experience much more rewarding in the long run
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 4 күн бұрын
That’s a fair assessment. Fun rules that you find interesting is a huge staying point though for a lot of players. Look and story are important too and one of my driving factors to playing the Eldar when I first started as a kid over 20 years ago. However, the rules and playstyle kept me playing Eldar versus when I picked up other armies because I loved the lore but not the playstyle I ended up dropping over time.
@jfm.d5180
@jfm.d5180 5 күн бұрын
I think you are sleeping on Urien. When paired with Talos he keeps this very durable unit still alive
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 5 күн бұрын
Ya I definitely am missing something with him because he usually just does nothing for me lol 😂
@jfm.d5180
@jfm.d5180 5 күн бұрын
I was wrong. I WAS WRONG. I said Reapers was just okay. It might not be game breaking but it’s INCREDIBLY strong in play AND so much fun to play
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 5 күн бұрын
It’s awesome isn’t it? 😎😉🔥 it’s all I’ve been wanting to play lately lol 😆
@ShaneOriginStory
@ShaneOriginStory 6 күн бұрын
I’d like to help with your audio issues and recording setup! I’ll send you an email at the channel email address.
@kcassadywsc
@kcassadywsc 6 күн бұрын
Note on Hellions- I’ve been contemplating them for a bit, and I loved your analysis of them. They feel like a slightly more expensive beast master style unit (I’m tempted to try one ten-man unit for 20 wounds at t4 for a massed lethal charge)
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 6 күн бұрын
Honestly that’s what I’m going to start doing it’s so fun!
@kcassadywsc
@kcassadywsc 6 күн бұрын
I also love RW for most of the reasons you’ve mentioned- the shear flexibility of the detachment rule, enhancements, and stratagems makes RW a ‘take any unit and try it’ option. Dissenting opinion- I’ve fielded urien with this detachment twice - he makes the talos and cronos really thick, and can hide pretty well to be annoying. Plus, with his 4++/5+++, he’s actually been really durable. Note: I *do* run him in a unit of wracks (who also can come back, basically giving him 5 ablative wounds). I love the tiering here just due to the aforementioned flexibility of RW. Yay witches, and super yay succubus- making the cheap units valuable!
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 6 күн бұрын
Couldn’t agree more with the RW! I’ll have to give Urien another chance honestly maybe I’m just completely using him wrong!
@TerryBradstreet
@TerryBradstreet 7 күн бұрын
would you say that Warlock weapons are poor compared to those of Guardians or Dire Avengers? Even though the only reason to use Psychic swords or spears is if they were better than non-psychic weapons? And there is no lore reason why they couldn’t use less demanding, more effective weapons that they already trained to use?
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 7 күн бұрын
I mean they are better than guardians and dire avengers in combat but not by a significant amount
@TerryBradstreet
@TerryBradstreet 6 күн бұрын
@ what if a Warlock’ aspect experience was with the Howling Banshees or Striking Scorpions? Is the Warlock trading up or down with the new psyker sword or spear? Likewise with Shining Spears and Warlock Skyrunners.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 6 күн бұрын
@ Agreed! Should have stronger weapons imho
@TerryBradstreet
@TerryBradstreet 6 күн бұрын
@ either that or their lore could change so that Warlocks didn’t necessarily serve as Aspect Warriors first. Which might jive better with how Ulthwe needs as many Seers as possible but can’t afford to have many Aspect Warriors.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 6 күн бұрын
@@TerryBradstreet Technically speaking its all about a frame of mind, yes warlocks serve as aspect warriors often but not always, and also stat wise they are the same they just super nerfed their weapons this edition for some reason
@TerryBradstreet
@TerryBradstreet 7 күн бұрын
But there are clearly trees drawn in the environment?
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 7 күн бұрын
That’s the joke 😉 he is a dumbass 😂
@daroth7127
@daroth7127 7 күн бұрын
feels like drukhari just gained a whole ton of units, so nice to be able to use stratagems on them
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely agree there! Quins hit pretty hard too!
@kcassadywsc
@kcassadywsc 6 күн бұрын
My IG friend and I found that quins filled out the mounted/monster punch that drukhari are often missing.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 6 күн бұрын
@@kcassadywsc Ya dev wounds are somthing they were missing outside of haywire
@kcassadywsc
@kcassadywsc 6 күн бұрын
@ lol. I mean, sure, we’ve always had mandrakes… and I have made the mistake on so many battles of thinking they had viable shooting and could survive. #wrong
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 6 күн бұрын
@@kcassadywsc Haha ya they die on turn 1/2 for me always
@TerryBradstreet
@TerryBradstreet 7 күн бұрын
You are really telling us to have wizards running on foot and alone into danger to shout “You shall not pass!” at Balrogs trying to cross narrow passages.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 7 күн бұрын
@@TerryBradstreet Even better with 3” deepstrike nerfed!
@TerryBradstreet
@TerryBradstreet 7 күн бұрын
@@ProxyHammer1 I am too new to understand what that means.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 7 күн бұрын
@@TerryBradstreet He is technically the cheapest single model we have that can screen ]
@TerryBradstreet
@TerryBradstreet 7 күн бұрын
@ I understand that, I just don’t know what deepstrike is. A stratagem or unit ability?
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 6 күн бұрын
@ Unit ability 😉 normally you have to be outside of 9” but certain stratagems allow you to deepstrike outdodd of 6” instead of
@timothybarsotti4284
@timothybarsotti4284 8 күн бұрын
So what do you do with a wraith guard brick and an avatar?
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 7 күн бұрын
Honestly my advice is try to keep them together for support but… they are probably going to die unless you have strong fights first nearby
@timothybarsotti4284
@timothybarsotti4284 7 күн бұрын
@ thanks for replying. I do have a Yvraine troop brick or 2 banshees, but the banshees don’t seem strong enough
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 7 күн бұрын
@@timothybarsotti4284 yvraine brick hits a lot harder but is much more expensive. Triple brick i dont personally think is strong in this meta atm but it can give your wraiths a chance to live
@timothybarsotti4284
@timothybarsotti4284 6 күн бұрын
@@ProxyHammer1 thanks. it does well into everything else so far. Blood Angels, however, seem to beat it like rock beats scissors.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 6 күн бұрын
@ Ya true unfortunately they are extremely popular and powerful atm
@THWikiPodcast
@THWikiPodcast 8 күн бұрын
Solitaire - S rank on my absolute jobber tier list (right beside Saint Celestine). Never, EVER comes through for me no matter how trivial the assignment. Everyone has to have a unit that consistently under performs for them... right?
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 8 күн бұрын
Absolutely! Totally understand that!
@DerOrk
@DerOrk 8 күн бұрын
Nah, please, *more* fantasy content.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 8 күн бұрын
@@DerOrk 😊 Ikr? I should do more!
@joecooper8527
@joecooper8527 9 күн бұрын
Is there a way to have fire dragons with harlequins ?
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 9 күн бұрын
@@joecooper8527 Currently yes if you run the battle host detachment!
@joecooper8527
@joecooper8527 9 күн бұрын
@@ProxyHammer1 Awesome, thank you.
@joecooper8527
@joecooper8527 9 күн бұрын
Fire and space clowns just sounds cool to have them both in the same army.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 8 күн бұрын
@ my pleasure!
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 8 күн бұрын
@ Agreed! They go well together too!
@alexwallace5639
@alexwallace5639 9 күн бұрын
Tbf i also really really rate Void Weavers. I run two very happily with prism cannons. With the re-rolls theyre quite reliable, for exanple removing small 3/4 man squars to switch the wager.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 9 күн бұрын
@@alexwallace5639 Exactly my thoughts! The rerolls make them cost effective because they throw out so many attacks
@isydust3164
@isydust3164 9 күн бұрын
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + FACTION KEYWORD: Aeldari - Drukhari + DETACHMENT: + TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts + + WARLORD: Char3: Archon + ENHANCEMENT: Conductor of Torment (on Char1: Archon) & Reaper's Cowl (on Char4: Troupe Master) + NUMBER OF UNITS: 21 + SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (4x2) - Assassination: 7 Characters +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Char1: 1x Drazhar (85 pts): The Executioner's demiklaives Char2: 1x Solitaire (115 pts): Solitaire Weapons Char3: 1x Archon (105 pts): Warlord, Huskblade, Blast Pistol Enhancement: Conductor of Torment (+20 pts) Char4: 7x Beastmaster (120 pts) • 1x Beastmaster: Agoniser, Splinter pods • 1x Clawed Fiend: Clawed Fiend fists • 2x Khymerae: 2 with Khymerae talons • 3x Razorwing Flock: 3 with Razorwing feathers Char5: 1x Death Jester (90 pts): Jester's Blade, Shrieker Cannon Char6: 1x Troupe Master (80 pts): Harlequin's Special Weapon, Shuriken Pistol Enhancement: Reaper's Cowl (+25 pts) Char7: 1x Troupe Master (55 pts): Harlequin's Special Weapon, Shuriken Pistol 10x Kabalite Warriors (110 pts) • 9x Kabalite Warrior: 9 with Close Combat Weapon, Splinter rifle • 1x Sybarite: Close Combat Weapon, Splinter Rifle 4x Court of the Archon (95 pts) • 1x Lhamaean: Shaimeshi Blade • 1x Medusae: Close combat weapon, Eyeburst • 1x Sslyth: Shardcarbine, Splinter pistol, Sslyth battle-blade • 1x Ur-ghul: Ur-ghul Talons 5x Incubi (85 pts) • 4x Incubi: 4 with Klaive • 1x Klaivex: Demiklaves 5x Mandrakes (70 pts) • 4x Mandrake: 4 with Baleblast, Glimmersteel Blade • 1x Nightfiend: Baleblast, Glimmersteel Blade 5x Mandrakes (70 pts) • 4x Mandrake: 4 with Baleblast, Glimmersteel Blade • 1x Nightfiend: Baleblast, Glimmersteel Blade 5x Scourges (130 pts) • 4x Scourge with Heavy Weapon: 4 with Close combat weapon, Shardcarbine • 1x Solarite: Close combat weapon, Shardcarbine 5x Scourges (130 pts) • 4x Scourge with Heavy Weapon: 4 with Close combat weapon, Shardcarbine • 1x Solarite: Close combat weapon, Shardcarbine 11x Troupe (165 pts) • 1x Lead Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol • 10x Player: 10 with Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol 5x Troupe (75 pts) • 1x Lead Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol • 4x Player: 4 with Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol 2x Skyweavers (105 pts): 2 with Close Combat Weapon, Shuriken Cannon, Star Bolas 1x Cronos (50 pts): Spirit Syphon, Spirit-leech Tentacles 1x Voidweaver (115 pts): Close Combat Weapon, 2x Shuriken Cannon, Voidweaver Haywire Cannon 1x Starweaver (80 pts): Close Combat Weapon, 2x Shuriken Cannon 1x Venom (70 pts): Bladevanes, Splinter Cannon, Twin Splinter Rifle My own list for tormanets. Now looking the video to see, what i got right)
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 9 күн бұрын
@@isydust3164 looks good man! Solid list imho!
@marcusramirez8181
@marcusramirez8181 9 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see the ynnari list! Been brainstroming some lists, but would be great to see some tips. Is wraithguard out of a deepstrike waveserpent a good idea?
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 9 күн бұрын
I’m dubious of the wraithguard deepstrike just because it’s hard to fit all the models and also be outside of 6”
@MrDUCKMAN5555
@MrDUCKMAN5555 9 күн бұрын
I think the detachments rules is way too luck depend. Because if you failed to kill a unit your whole order attack falls apart and maybe you have units not getting the rules now.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 9 күн бұрын
That could be said of warhammer in general, the key is to make sure you have units in your army that don’t rely on the detachment bonus
@jfm.d5180
@jfm.d5180 10 күн бұрын
This is an excellent tier list
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
My pleasure 😊🙏
@Hodgymbob
@Hodgymbob 10 күн бұрын
I think you need to smash some games with the court as they are not fun, they are low key the best thing in the index, they might be better in skysplinter. You dont use the tantalus you just use a raider
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Honestly you are probably right!
@Hodgymbob
@Hodgymbob 10 күн бұрын
I have killed 2 ctan in a turn with them haha lethal hits with full archon rerolls. Skysplinter sustained 2 for shooting and get back in the raider made them even better. I'm still trying to work out their place in this detachment but a solid unit to help flip before my solitaire fights first
@wearekarnage881
@wearekarnage881 10 күн бұрын
I'm never leaving home without my court unit. The unit is such a dual threat. Can threaten most units in shooting as well as im melee, as well as being one of the more annoying threats for your opponent to answer due to fights first and also -1 to wound. I haven't really even thought of using it with a tantalus, in reapers wager I'm actually giving the archon the deep strike enhancement and deep striking the entire court +kabs together
@Hodgymbob
@Hodgymbob 10 күн бұрын
Same, court is always coming
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Hmmm interesting! I’ll have to give the court more of a chance!
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Consider my mind changed!
@MrDUCKMAN5555
@MrDUCKMAN5555 9 күн бұрын
I really don't see its value. Like 95 points for a court 85 for a archon and 110 for kab so 295 points for a unit that has about maybe 6 guns worth shooting then a crap ton of 0 ap splinter fire then like half of their melee attacks is 0 ap too. Like the 11 troupe+troupe master is 235 points has 5 guns worth shooting weapons with ap and is crazy good in melee with a 4++ on top.
@isydust3164
@isydust3164 9 күн бұрын
​@@MrDUCKMAN5555 Cort have fighti firts, they have many special weapons (which doent require to be in 3 inchers), they have more oc, - 1 to wound and full rerolls on all weapons with letals if you give them pain tokens. In my inari game they came from resorves, killed 20 orces with characters, and in the opponents turn killed 10 stormbois with ff. They are god and totally worth it.
@Grishnag85
@Grishnag85 10 күн бұрын
Before i get to the shadowseer i am going to predict that she will be D tier because you can do what she does for cheaper in this detachment with an enhancement and a strategem
@Grishnag85
@Grishnag85 10 күн бұрын
I was not expecting a B tier at all
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
B tier because with this detachment they can actually hit pretty hard. Which is the main issue I have with her in aeldari tbh they have no punch. Troupe master is always better tho
@hyweldda5119
@hyweldda5119 10 күн бұрын
I once play with two big troupes on Reaper's wager. One with infiltration on troupe master and other with webway walker on Shadowseer for rapid ingress. Its actually pretty fun to have so many aggressive harlequins on board
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
That’s awesome! 😎 turn 1 charges for all!
@devotedtodestruction
@devotedtodestruction 10 күн бұрын
Deep strike your ravagers bro. I literally make my points back EVERY TIME.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
I’ve done this in Skysplinter and honestly the lances just seem to whiff for me
@devotedtodestruction
@devotedtodestruction 10 күн бұрын
@ now that you mention it, my experience comes from a Ynarri build and I would abuse the hell out of the Aeldari Detachments free re roll.
@nativeExarch
@nativeExarch 10 күн бұрын
As someone who fell in love with Harlequins initially, and there what I wanted to play, I seriously might consider looking into this, I might be able to live out my dream of having a quin heavy army after all.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Absolutely! Although there will be a Quin detachment in the codex that will be available
@swordxart1443
@swordxart1443 10 күн бұрын
the only bad thing for helions imo is they are mounted and not infantry, so they cant move through walls and stuff, which sucks.
@maxmagnus377
@maxmagnus377 10 күн бұрын
Agreed, but anything that already has lethals or sustains and can get the other can punch so far above its weight class that they are worth it. Did the math on them back on Proxy's previous video: vs Marine equivalents Hellions trade phenomenally, and they'll even kill more points worth of Terminators than what they cost. On top of that they're quick and good at secondaries.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Yes true but with advance shoot and charge it makes up for it a bit!
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Yep absolutely! They hit like a truck for the points!
@devotedtodestruction
@devotedtodestruction 10 күн бұрын
Literally the worst thing about my jetbike army. I really hope GW gives my windriders something to adjust their movement. 😈
@fishe183
@fishe183 10 күн бұрын
I ran 10 yesterday. Good rapid threat, they cleared a 6 man defkopta unit in 1 activation through the wah (with lethals).
@runeh3022
@runeh3022 10 күн бұрын
Did anyone catch what they changed in the Drukhari Index during x-mas? They did update that document as well alongside the Reaver's Wager, but I'm not sure what they did tbh.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
They changed some points but that’s about it
@runeh3022
@runeh3022 10 күн бұрын
@@ProxyHammer1 But that was in the Munitorium Feild Manual thing. They must have done something to the index iteslf as they did update that file alongside the Reaver's Wager release. 😕
@thewartheoryguild
@thewartheoryguild 10 күн бұрын
@@runeh3022 they always update the indexes even with no changes. Every army was updated as you can see
@lukerobinson5070
@lukerobinson5070 10 күн бұрын
Agreed in my latest games hellions and voidweaver were amazing.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Such great units in this detachment!
@Nerodarkangel7
@Nerodarkangel7 10 күн бұрын
Hey tau player here! There’s a bunch of hidden oddities to make the detatchment weirdly effective. The lone op half works really well with the base size of the ghostkeel, as well as scouting devilfish from the Grundy maneuver, as well as when accompanying pirhana. Additionally I actually feel one of these weaker enhancements is actually fanatical, but can sit well on a lone spear. One of these weaker enhancements only units I think it sits well on. For the deep striking kroot. It makes for some wierd deep striking, or more specifically if you want to drop a bit blob in safety to screen and sticky to obj. Now for the admired leader, that one is tougher to justify, but the foresight marksman team has lone op as well and could hand it out every turn, not easily used, but still pretty solid. Now for why the transmission lock absolutely slaps. Which comes down too wonderful movement values. Kroot carnivores have a 7” scout with a 7” movement value, so without using the auto advance stratagem, with an average advance role means a movement range of 17”. Which is the same value for the vespid. Meanwhile a small blob of kroot puppies have scout 7, 12” and advance and charge, pumping average distance covered to 22” turn one. For the suit side of things, if you go star scythes your choice of s6 ap2 flamers or s7 ap2 burst cannons. Want your fire knifes with rerolls for punching elites? S9 ap2 d2 missiles or s10 ap 4 d3 plasma. Not as much a big fan of the sun forges for this Strat but it can very heavily alpha if someone misdeploys or forces them to play reserved with that in mind.
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Very interesting combos! As someone who doesn’t play tau I’m glad the detachmrnt got some love because I am a big fan of kroot!
@Hanke86
@Hanke86 10 күн бұрын
Beastmaster can't use Reapers Cowl as its for Harlequins only. Can use the other 3 Enhancements though
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 10 күн бұрын
Ahhh ok tyvm for the correction! Would be so OP lol 😂