Will "Mechdar" DOMINATE the Aeldari Meta?!-"Mechanized Warfare Is Here To Stay!!"

[@ProxyHammer1]

Video on Mechdar builds coming soon for your viewing pleasure!

[@joachimmeier7318]

Eldar units are futuristic and beautiful. That's a fact.

[@ProxyHammer1]

Absolutely agree! So sleek and majestic!

[@yannroshdy]

You have 3 lists for aeldari to score points in primaries 1) wraiths 2) small mininum units that dies after scoring 3) wave serpents to rush objectives

[@ProxyHammer1]

Yep! This video is all about the third option 😉

[@indicosa91]

This! If ever I win / make a nice scoring, is because either wraiths or the vehicles have been annoyingly resistant during three-four turns. It's already two players in my groups that have sworn a vendetta against my wave serpent 😂

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@indicosa91 The Wave serpent of DOOOOOOM!!!

[@CatroiOz]

I absolutely love playing harlequins with falcons. A MSU troupe with a troupe master is a real threat to a LOT of things in the game !

[@ProxyHammer1]

Love troupes in falcons! Super good!

[@davidfeline5850]

Finally, a reason to field the three Wave Serpents and two Falcons I have. 🤣

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@davidfeline5850 hell yes we do!!

[@davidfeline5850]

@ProxyHammer1 💪

[@lordilluminati5836]

They were good all edition, they are just *very good* now

[@ProxyHammer1]

@ good but overlooked!

[@Slapdab]

I appreciate how proxy reads stats clearly enough for a beginner to understand. I have trouble when experts rush through stats.

[@ProxyHammer1]

It must be the teacher in me!

[@glacierrr4743]

I run a semi-mechdar list at the moment (Blades in serpent, dragons in falcon and a lynx). It was a joy to play them, but I always forget the serpent shield.

[@ProxyHammer1]

It is very forgettable but occasionally game changing!

[@chadfontaine2717]

Love the content! Love Eldar. Keep up the good work Proxy! I think this is a good time to be Eldar :)

[@ProxyHammer1]

Thank you my friend! It is a good time indeed to be an eldar player!

[@lordilluminati5836]

That ranger embarking trick is clever! I might actually run rangers now

[@ProxyHammer1]

It’s really frustrating for opponents

[@deckofmanytoyboxes8845]

Really enjoy your videos man, keep up the good work! Mech-dar seems like a blast to play on paper, cant wait to test it out when my Fire Prisms come in

[@ProxyHammer1]

It’s an absolutely awesome type of play style!

[@jonesYxxc]

Recently played my first Game and used 2 Waver Serpents with Wraithguards. It was able to get them into the deployment zone. Played against World Eaters and they charged across the board. Actually still won but it took some serious mowing down and lots of cps were spend. I would really appreciate it if you could do a video about the possibility of using WGs in a Mechdar list. Your Videos really helped me out a lot!

[@ProxyHammer1]

In my next video talking about mechdar lists ill def talk about it!!

[@ZenofPainting]

Fact: Marine mains always tell me "XYZ about Eldar but one thing about y'all is Eldar vehicles have the most drip in the 41st millenium" I always wear Versace and Polo when I play at my LGS now because of that. I refer to my army as "Dripdar" when my opponent asks

[@ProxyHammer1]

They certainly do have the most drip!

[@vadiml18]

Another amazing aeldari video, thank you for your efforts! It also made me realize that corsairs don't have strands of fate, that I missed. I was going to take them in my next battle and that info saved me a lot of embarassment in the future :)

[@ProxyHammer1]

My absolute pleasure! happy to help and GL in your battle!

[@ukitube1]

Man, this brings me memories of the Spearhead expansion in 5th It came with a cool battle report between Eldar and Imperial Guard

[@ProxyHammer1]

Yep! Interesting times!

[@saintofvirtue4149]

As someone who has been running a ynnari mech style list since we got this index, the points drops are a definite buff. Ynnari in particular i feel get a lot out of it. drukhari have some affordable melee monsters but no tougher tank to deliver them but in ynnari, those incubi can ride in a falcon and get rerolls in melee after they disembark... I have always enjoyed a stagger release from a deep strike falcon, first turn in Fuegan or a squad of dragons melt the falcon threat, then next turn Drazhar or a squad of incubi disembark from the same falcon and rush to melee with rerolls. All the rerolls really amp the threat levels and let you get the most out of that reroll wound ability. A transport level capacity of 6 lets you have a unit and a character. And if they are separate you can always be giving one of them rerolls by rotating units getting in and out. I think you could pair this with the scout move aspect as well. Scout forward have a character run up and hop in then rotate corsairs out if there's a target, and so forth.

[@ProxyHammer1]

Exactly my thoughts! Staggering disembark can allow for some awesome trades and play throughout the entire game from a relatively safe staging point!

[@saintofvirtue4149]

@@ProxyHammer1 Might be an interesting video. Best pairs of units in vehicles. 5 scorpions and 5 fire dragons in a wave serpent... Dark reapers and death jester in a long ranger falcon... I'd watch it. XD

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@saintofvirtue4149 I'll for sure discuss this in my next mechdar video!

[@maxmagnus377]

Would be great if any good characters in either Drukhari or Aeldari had scout...

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@maxmagnus377 True that!

[@MaxOVADrive]

Did you say "if you go second you can use scout to retreat?" I always thought that both players made their scout moves before the first turn.

[@ProxyHammer1]

You use scout after you know who gets the first turn 😊😉

[@MaxOVADrive]

Nevermind, I misunderstood what you meant.

[@joewoodland8635]

I suppose this accurately shows why us ynnari stans aren't allowed corsairs.. doing that with other boat/bike options to fill out the rest is too powerful for james

[@ProxyHammer1]

Ynnari can take corsairs 😉 they fixed that

[@joewoodland8635]

In that case, would you change anything for ynnari? Or keep the core principles?

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@joewoodland8635 Core principles stay the same but would include kabalites with venoms

[@Beta-f8e]

How'd you feel about Illic in the ranger squad for extra power & trickiness? 🤔

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@Beta-f8e it’s interesting although honestly I don’t think he adds much yk this particular trick, I like him as a character though especially since abilities like his work against things like Doombolt

[@ukitube1]

With the new codex incoming, what kind of vehicle would you like to add to the craftworld roster? I personally would like a craftworlder venom/starweaver I cannot avoid the sensation that their cousins stole their vyper chasis to make their own lightweight transports

[@ProxyHammer1]

I’d love having a Vyper transport! Even one that could only transport 1 model but have a rule where the model could use abilities from it would be cool 😎

[@ukitube1]

@@ProxyHammer1 That sounds a lot like the necron command barge. Have to say that I am amused by the idea. And the crawftworlds stealing a conecpt for once instead of the opposite

[@ProxyHammer1]

@ Yes that’s interesting!

[@jgt1120]

Is the Eldar boarding patrol worth getting? Not sure I want that many corsairs

[@ProxyHammer1]

Honestly I think if you can find it for a good price it is worth it!

[@OniGanon]

Where the heck are you still finding Boarding Patrols?

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@OniGanon They are so rare now lol 😆

[@viktorf6798]

Neat thanks, love the powerpoint :)

[@ProxyHammer1]

My pleasure thanks for watching!

[@maxmagnus377]

Would love to try this out at some point, but I only have 1 Wave Serpent. It's nothing like any list I've ever played, and part of me kinda questions How efficient it would really be? But then again, 6 Falcon/Serpent chassis do bring 6 Lance shots, half of which are twin linked, 9 Pulse laser shots, 18 Shuriken Cannon shots, 6 detachment rerolls sprinkled in. The transport capacity is a double edged sword though. This already sinks a fair number of points, and a lot of the real power of the units that would go into those falcons lies in character support. Don't you think you'd be running into the points limit before you've filled all those seats with the kind of goodies you'd really want in there? The cheapest heavy hitting option for the Falcons (seeing how many lances are already in the list I'd forego Dragons) are probably Troupe + Master? That makes 3 genuinely scary 260 point combos that can kill a whole lot more than you'd think. (780 points deep already) You want the Serpents to scout, so Corsairs it is. As I'm not really all that impressed by their strength I wouldn't ever choose 10-man units here, so you leave seats for something joining them later, or for that Ranger trick, of which I do think you need 2. 3x 170 for the Corsairs in Serpents, 2x 55 for Rangers. (1400 points in now) For a Warlord I think you still want the 150 point Wayleaper with the gem. I tried the "new" foot Autarch 2 times now, and I'm not a huge fan. Both Guardian squads are more of a burden to him than the package is worth, as that amount of CP generation/discount paints a huge target on his back, and it being a rather big squishy unit all in all, I have trouble keeping him alive no matter how I play him. At 175 points vs 150 I'd rather have the slippery, mobile winged version tbh. So we're at 1550 points now, and getting to the point where we're finishing up. I do think that the Falcons and Serpents have the anti large area covered, and we don't have a Farseer yet, nor a true infantry blender, so my mind instantly goes to a Windrider blob with Skyrunner(s), so either 350 points, or 405 if you want the Ignore Cover the Warlock affords you. If you go with the latter we're now at 1955, one of the most awkward "not quite there yet" numbers to be at as an Aeldari, so let's not have a Warlock in there, and leave ourselves at 1900. I think the flavourful and arguably quite good choices here are either a Vyper for that Ignore Cover, or Shroud Runners for the Lethal Hits, either option leaving enough points for a Weeping Stones or something to get a couple more fate dice for those Lances. I think this does look fun, albeit very much an experiment that could fall flat. It's very thematic Saim-Hann, which is cool, and with the amount of small units in fast transports should still be good enough to do the positional secondaries well enough if you stage well. I hear a lot of the pros saying that triple Exorcist Sisters might make an appearance at the big boy tables soon, and this list *should* deny almost all of the juicy squishy important targets we tend to present them. Huge questionmark on how good it really is. It sure as hell would take me a fair number of games to learn all the ins and outs of it, but I might give something like this a run through TTS for a while?

[@ProxyHammer1]

Honestly you would be surprised how many meq/teq blenders you can fit in 600pts

[@TheVoloch]

I'm sorry Proxy. New meta is: Avatar 3 x 5 Corsair Voidreavers 2 x Wraithknights w/Sword & Shield 1 Wraithknight w dual Wraithcannons. You're welcome :)

[@ProxyHammer1]

I love it!! 😍

[@Cake92077]

I had no idea about that dedicated transports with scouts

[@ProxyHammer1]

Yep! It’s an awesome perk!

[@ZenofPainting]

Don't need to spend CP to shoot with our vehicles locked in combat, because big guns never tire.

[@ProxyHammer1]

True! but you may not always want to shoot at the target they are in combat with or at -1 to hit

[@ZenofPainting]

@ProxyHammer1 Especially against Death guard. -1 WS/BS really good.

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@ZenofPainting Ya absolutely that aura is tough!

[@eldenwarden9673]

So does every model in the serpent have to have Scout? Or could you do like 5 corsairs and 5 of something else? Like Banshees for example.

[@ProxyHammer1]

Every model must have scout for you to be able to use the ability :(

[@Nikinuito]

Great minds think alike? Today I'm playing a list with 2 prisms, 1 falcon(scorpions and cojones) and 1 wave serpent (voidreavers) but Vs grey knights :/ Idea for videos, how about a playing Vs X faction? Because it's veeery different playing grey knights and their mortal wounds spam than Vs custodes for example

[@ProxyHammer1]

Yes eventually I want to make VS videos against most factions! It’s on the to do list 😉 I actually think Mechdar will be very good vs grey knights weirdly enough!

[@Nikinuito]

@@ProxyHammer1 Yep, it did work, 93-71. Basically because he did command insertion with behind enemy lines and establish locus, giving him like 30 points by just teleporting in turn 4 a big ball of 10 paladins with Kaldor draigo and doing actions in my home while I controlled the rest of the map.

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@Nikinuito Awesome dude that is sick! Mechdar is really good for the cost now!

[@nathangoddard6082]

Why aren't banshees a good fit for the falcon?

[@ProxyHammer1]

I personally think banshees are far too fast to really benefit from the falcons Fire support for reroll wounds. Ideally when used offensively they want to hit units hiding behind ruins staging that scorpions would have trouble getting to and quite frankly would be definitely out of the falcons threat range. I see banshees as more of a defensive unit for reactive heroic intervention with fights first. Having said that they can definitely be used in a Falcon it’s just maybe not the best choice imho

[@nathangoddard6082]

@@ProxyHammer1 great thanks for the advice - scorpions or void reavers are my next purchase - I might keep my banshees in the back field and avengers in falcon till my bank balance is better 😂

[@mortthepirate6318]

Do you think it's weird that the shield ability on the wave serpent is an attack?

[@ProxyHammer1]

It’s not weird, what’s weird is that Doombolt is not classified as an attack

[@mortthepirate6318]

@@ProxyHammer1 I mean, shouldn't it provide some sort of defensive ability? Like a +1 armor save, or -1 to hit, or count a cover for units when they disembark?

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@mortthepirate6318 I think the shield should project an aura of an invul save like the serpent scale platform does for storm guardians!

[@MrDUCKMAN5555]

wave serpent shield is a really bad made ability, it requires 3 rolls to use it. like why so many rolls?

[@ProxyHammer1]

Ya... hoping for a better one in the codex honestly

[@Antarides3798]

Will this work in ynnari list?

[@ProxyHammer1]

Absolutely!

[@Beta-f8e]

Do you think a list like this would suffer by not hitting hard enough? Cool tricks with the corsairs and rangers, but neither unit is a great damage dealer... Nor is the wave serpent!

[@ProxyHammer1]

The list I presented in the diagram is only about 1400pts the list would also include double fire dragon, fuegan, scorpions, karandras, and likely a lot more. I will do a video talking about lists soon, but yes its very hard hitting!

[@Beta-f8e]

@@ProxyHammer1 How do you feel about 5 wraiths in wave serpents?

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@Beta-f8e I think it can be good! I like the idea and think it can be really solid!

[@maxmagnus377]

@@ProxyHammer1 By the time you have 2 Dragons, Fuegan, Scorppions and Karandras you barely have 150 points of "a lot more" left though 😉

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@maxmagnus377 I'll post the lists soon, you actually have a lot of points leftover

[@Mikkus123]

First!

[@ProxyHammer1]

😎😉

[@LordNerfherder]

Gw had a lot of falcons left on the shelves thats all. They werent bad. Now many players will buy. I hope you dont buy any and just 3d printa falcon turret for your some of your 4 wave serpents you you already have. Dont get scammed by gw.

[@ProxyHammer1]

3d printing is the way!