Pioneer 5.56 AK Long Term Review: Don't Buy.
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@Razor-gx2dq
@Razor-gx2dq 11 сағат бұрын
Someone really messed your's up, mine looks nothing like that.
@protoculture289
@protoculture289 15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll make sure to avoid this brand for sure
@user-ws4vt7zu5o
@user-ws4vt7zu5o Күн бұрын
I picked up two of these bastards on GB and have to say I'm pleased, nothing like what you got there. Someone really butchered yours, I don't blame you for trying to get RI to make it right. If I can ask, where did you get it?
@hobofactory
@hobofactory Күн бұрын
@@user-ws4vt7zu5o ordered from Grabagun.
@M81_WOODLAND
@M81_WOODLAND Күн бұрын
I was one of those ding-dongs that picked up a complete Beryl bolt thinking it would be a good spare should the original bolt develop problems or at least: for spare parts. AND YUP: the lug geometry on the Beryl bolt is just a tad different from that of the Pioneer's to where it won't allow the bolt to rotate into lockup because it doesn't match the geometry on the trunnion. Meh. It's not my first or only AK so I'll just shoot the crap out of it for now. Maybe a solution will present itself in time.
@Jayjohnson-dz9ei
@Jayjohnson-dz9ei Күн бұрын
Pioneer stated early on there was an issue with the first 556 firing pins being over harden. Offering free replacements from the warranty department. Why not just call the and get a new pin? Other than making a blanket statement they are all bad? And then going to the steps of changing the bolt to fit another companies fire pin seems a long way to go. How bout get a new firing pin from warranty for free after all they have a life time warranty (life time). Then you can have a actual review with parts manufacturer correctly. I know should have been done right the first time but stuff happens sometimes.
@truckdriver3126
@truckdriver3126 11 сағат бұрын
@@Jayjohnson-dz9ei pioneers warranty dept is a joke, when I initially had problems with extraction on my 556 underfolder, I sent an email. I was replied back to with their armorer's number. Between text and leaving a voicemail, I never got a further response.
@michael9r9rsBlasters
@michael9r9rsBlasters Күн бұрын
Great video! Even for a cheap gun these kinds of failures are unacceptable
@Pyrus335
@Pyrus335 2 күн бұрын
You know what they say about some things being made on a friday andOH MY GOODNESS IT LOOKS LIKE THEY SLAMMED IT INTO THE MILL, THOSE RAILS OMG
@AcidRefluxTrip
@AcidRefluxTrip 2 күн бұрын
I just watched another video on one of these and his frame looked nothing like yours. I’ve been looking at these but apparently insisting on field strip before purchase will be necessary, and most shops aren’t going to permit that
@DogeMcLovin
@DogeMcLovin 3 күн бұрын
I would rather receive a frame that is competently cast than a forged + milled one with factory grinder marks... wow! Hopefully RIA makes it right.
@paulbarnes2752
@paulbarnes2752 3 күн бұрын
Must be one of those "hit or miss" guns. There's KZbin videos praising the high quality of these.
@leobenjaminlopez9255
@leobenjaminlopez9255 3 күн бұрын
Exactly, mine doesn’t look like the one in this video, so maybe he just got a lemon 🍋
@Razor-gx2dq
@Razor-gx2dq 11 сағат бұрын
​@@leobenjaminlopez9255perhaps
@jasonanderson2403
@jasonanderson2403 3 күн бұрын
Taurus has a hell of a lot better quality than that. Those look like they came out of the freaking Khyber Pass. Girsan Regard MC is a decent Turk made Beretta.
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 3 күн бұрын
@@jasonanderson2403 I did have a Girsan Regard and it was a decent pistol. From what I gather they mostly don’t have parts interchangeability with Beretta, which was the supposed upside to the Melik… but at this point I’d rather have the Girsan again.
@jasonanderson2403
@jasonanderson2403 2 күн бұрын
@@hobofactory Yeah I'd agree with that. I got two of them and I swapped out the slide lock lever on both of them with the Beretta parts to make them more reliable to keep the slide back on an empty magazine because the Girsan part is a little shorter where it catches on the mag follower. The slide itself and the tilting block aren't interchangeable. Also the grips mostly work, but may require a little work with a round file to fit better.
@tylerlondon5052
@tylerlondon5052 3 күн бұрын
I.ahine being an American company in 2024 and being unable to match technology from pre-1947 Soviet Russia.
@BillWilsonBG
@BillWilsonBG 3 күн бұрын
Seems like things just go from bad to worse. Pioneer saga was exhausting enough. I was tempted by this seeing those aforementioned videos, but parts interchangeability was something I was concerned about, as well as it being Turkish giving their history. Certainly didn't see one looking like that. Nothing quite like broken new items or stuff you can't find parts for to fast track ulcers.
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 3 күн бұрын
@@BillWilsonBG tbh I’d rather find out it was garbage right off the bat rather than developing some level of trust and have it crap out a year down the line.
@dr.omar.insights2000
@dr.omar.insights2000 4 күн бұрын
Your video came on time. I was close to buy one as it is the cheapest in the market. Then what alternative AK would you recommend AROUND SAME PRICE ?
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 3 күн бұрын
I don’t think there is anything at around the same price that I’d recommend, especially not in 5.56. The rule seems to be, if it’s cheap it’s not good, and if it’s good it’s not cheap.
@dr.omar.insights2000
@dr.omar.insights2000 3 күн бұрын
@@hobofactory sound good and makes sense. So at around $900 mark with no restrictions related to caliber what would be your recommendation?
@skeetlejuice522
@skeetlejuice522 4 күн бұрын
save yourself a lot of trouble and just get a Zastava
@nilbog6942
@nilbog6942 6 күн бұрын
The AK game seems illogical sometimes. You overspend on a rifle designed to be cheaply manufactured, available, and effective. Or you "underspend" and end up with a giant paperweight. I want one but I'd feel like I'd be paying solely for a half working plinker and the ability to say I have an AK lol. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
@CantoniaCustoms
@CantoniaCustoms 4 күн бұрын
It's cheap precisely due to mass manufacture. When you scale down manufacture for civilian market, the fixed costs remain the same so you end up with a more expensive product.
@adcaptandumvulgus4252
@adcaptandumvulgus4252 6 күн бұрын
I'll leave it up maybe you and your video will be the catalyst for them to change it for the better and help everyone else who bought one, yeah? You never know, is my not so humble opinion.
@Superstitiousobserver
@Superstitiousobserver 3 күн бұрын
Hasn't worked for century arms. Why? Because people keep buying thier garbage
@Nat_556
@Nat_556 6 күн бұрын
Can I get the name of the music for the intro?
@ERRATAS0707
@ERRATAS0707 6 күн бұрын
I'm sorry but if its not made in Russia and its not in 7.62/5.45 then I don't want it, that 5.56 thing ain't a real AK.
@rapl1183
@rapl1183 6 күн бұрын
Wait until you find out that Russia makes and exports 5.56 AKs
@ERRATAS0707
@ERRATAS0707 6 күн бұрын
@@rapl1183 well Russia today is woke that's why. I'm talking about Russia back then, but you're right my terms are wrong. I'm talking about the SOVIETS not today's Russians
@killerratchet1973
@killerratchet1973 3 күн бұрын
@@ERRATAS0707 Russia has been making 5.56 AKs with the AK101 as far back as the 1990s, and there have been no complaints over those when they imported them here with the Saigas.
@ERRATAS0707
@ERRATAS0707 2 күн бұрын
@@killerratchet1973 cap
@JoeBidenSucks42069
@JoeBidenSucks42069 6 күн бұрын
i have a cugir wasr from 1972.....unknown round count but runs like a championship racehorse
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY 6 күн бұрын
Need the song name bad. Sounds like Kino.
@USALibertarian
@USALibertarian 6 күн бұрын
When decent ARs are $400 I don’t see the purpose in AKs.
@bradenpetty3828
@bradenpetty3828 6 күн бұрын
I bought one for shitts and giggs when they went on sale. I was very suprised with the rifles accuracy as well. I was hard on this gun, and it ran just like an AK should until it became JAM-O-MATIC after 600 rounds (Tula .223). I just sold it recently for the same price I paid for it 😂🤣 Fun while I had it, didnt explode
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 4 күн бұрын
I'm sure you told the unsuspecting victim you had zero malfunctions and only shot 100 rounds too. It's your kind that keeps me from buying used guns.
@bradenpetty3828
@bradenpetty3828 4 күн бұрын
@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 haha you said it!! Fuck buying a used gun, I dont even do it at gun shows. Budsgunshop is the way to go for sure
@JBidensucks
@JBidensucks 6 күн бұрын
I just bought a pioneer sporter 20". It was an inexpensive range toy. If the firingnpinnbreaks, ill just install a better one. In all seriousness, if i wanted the best of the best id have soent more money. The gun does a good job. In a SHTF scenario, somethings i know isnt likly as im not a mall ninja prepper wierdo, i would be carrying my legit M4a2 anyway as its lighter, shorter, higher precision and much more maneuverable
@bruceshepard1193
@bruceshepard1193 6 күн бұрын
AKs in general are a waste of money. Ghetto rifle.
@MZ-rn3xq
@MZ-rn3xq 6 күн бұрын
Great video! Amazing attention to detail
@MM-op6ti
@MM-op6ti 7 күн бұрын
If you actually plan on shooting it, buy repro. M-1 carbines are problematic, parts breakage and malfunction is common.
@peterschmidt2849
@peterschmidt2849 7 күн бұрын
❤️‍🔥🇺🇸😎
@MM-op6ti
@MM-op6ti 7 күн бұрын
I shot 50 rounds through mine and it works perfectly. Firing pins are only $10. Just take a Dremel to the beryl bolt. Fix your own mag well it’s easy. The gun is perfect tbh, stop slandering an American company over a budget rifle. Also, any AK will break after a few thousand rounds they’re designed to be cheap and disposable. Even 2k arsenals break.
@FirstLast-ff7qx
@FirstLast-ff7qx 5 күн бұрын
I dont agree with anything you said in your comment.
@koumakyo
@koumakyo 4 күн бұрын
Is this a joke?
@FirstLast-ff7qx
@FirstLast-ff7qx 4 күн бұрын
​@@koumakyo gotta be lol
@Superstitiousobserver
@Superstitiousobserver 3 күн бұрын
This is a joke right? Nobody is actually this dumb right?
@Southron-CiK
@Southron-CiK 2 күн бұрын
A whole 50 round box of ammo, wow, very impressive testing. Everything you said was wrong. It isn't slander to call out bad companies. It is far worse to promote them. Afghanis are still using the soviet AKs that were left behind 40 years ago with 10s of thousands of rounds on them.
@roddangerson2046
@roddangerson2046 7 күн бұрын
Oh gee who would have though a 556 as a full size AK is not good 😂😂😂
@soldierofunclesam5.56
@soldierofunclesam5.56 7 күн бұрын
Pioneer arms Corp aka KAC make the Best AKs that Africans have ever seen. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@SailfishSoundSystem
@SailfishSoundSystem 7 күн бұрын
If you have a bad firing pin, you have a bad rifle. The heat treatment is garbage. Keep the magazines and junk it. Don't sell it to some chump either, they might give you a return investment. Don't mess around with serious gun guys.
@m.7n6
@m.7n6 7 күн бұрын
I had one and it was shit, it ran 2k rounds then had its first failures, they sent me a new one after I had shitty experience with there old customer service, then after getting new one barrel flew out on me at the range scared the shit out of me someone didn't put a big enough in diameter barrel pin in, and egged out the barrel pin hole to oblivion made it unsafe firearm
@truckdriver3126
@truckdriver3126 7 күн бұрын
Before you go and spend money honing the chamber, just replace the extractor with an FB Beryl type. They're out of stock now, but this solved the extraction issue I had with my pioneer 556.
@roul3688
@roul3688 7 күн бұрын
Firing pin issue sucks but know you’re getting into an unstandardized system with a 556 ak
@Superstitiousobserver
@Superstitiousobserver 3 күн бұрын
Doesn't help that it's built by a company well know for producing trash
@matthewpetell
@matthewpetell 7 күн бұрын
ar15?
@the308capital
@the308capital 7 күн бұрын
Makes you think...the Chinese figured out reliable 5.56 AKs in the 1980's.
@chasecarroll1509
@chasecarroll1509 7 күн бұрын
Crazy idea: What if you just buy more of the magazine that’s specifically made for that rifle? I don’t know if there have ever been guns in the past where you could only use one specific type of magazine for, but just a crazy idea I had
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 7 күн бұрын
Pioneer mags are garbage made from Nerf-grade plastic. Imagine making a Glock clone that only runs on ProMag. In any case, probably not a crazy idea, but certainly a bad one.
@chasecarroll1509
@chasecarroll1509 7 күн бұрын
@@hobofactory OK, you got me there. I would be pissed if I bought a gun and I mean any gun and it only ran with pro mags
@Warhorseakm78
@Warhorseakm78 7 күн бұрын
😂 wow, you maybe shouldn’t review aks lol
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 7 күн бұрын
Criticism taken. I have a lot to learn. I checked your channel in hopes of learning how it’s done… imagine my shock at what I found.
@TokenTombstone
@TokenTombstone 7 күн бұрын
What kind of crazy person even thinks about buying an AK in 5.56?
@68buicks
@68buicks 6 күн бұрын
People who already have the other guns lol
@hendo337
@hendo337 7 күн бұрын
That's the worst of both worlds, the lower performing platform with the low performing round. I remember seeing 5.56 AK variants at gunshows a long time back, after 2006. I was still highly AR adverse back then after being in the Army. I felt that a larger caliber or more powerful round was ideal. I also wasnt sold on reliability going on Fudd logic and having M4 that liked to malfunction. I have since become warmer to AR variants. I do prefer 6.5Grendel, 6arc, .300blk, 9mm, .350/.400 Legend and so on because the 5.56 still doesnt impress me, if I had to use on I would insist on at least a 20" barrel and newer heavier bullets like 77gr TMK. I wish the .25-45 Sharps or .277 Wolverine would have caught on more. .277 Fury/6.8x51 is the stupidest blunder in history going back to 1950s logistics for ammo, severe overkill for a regular guy, bulky weapon, overly short barrel, ridiclously expensive, complicated ammo, significant recoil and muzzle blast. AK variants are neat but, I really wish the AR18 would have caught on with better rounds.
@Gregory-qu1ct
@Gregory-qu1ct 7 күн бұрын
You know the ak 74 which uses 5.45 x 39 ammo (that is comparable to 5.56 x 45) has been used in the Russian army for a very long time? I don't know what barrel length they were using but it's the barrels themselves which make aks inaccurate, not the platform.
@brettaughenbaugh4541
@brettaughenbaugh4541 7 күн бұрын
They literaly make like 20,000 cilvilian guns a year and everybody makes up there mind on the 3 reviews on utube.... im not sticking up fir them they are low budget but mine runs fine... sorry u got a lemon..... goid vid tho
@brettaughenbaugh4541
@brettaughenbaugh4541 7 күн бұрын
If you want a ak platform u can run the shit out of, spend a few xtra $$
@TheDoorspook11c
@TheDoorspook11c 7 күн бұрын
Young sir, these are the problems of most 5.56 chambered AK's. The main obstacle is that there is no standard unless you go Galil or some other state sponsored program. From SAR2's to ZPAP's mags always are an issue, no real standard. Chambers, either 223 or 5.56, coming from non NATO countries is iffy. Most AKs have work done to import them. That's the second place. Third is adapting AK74 parts to 556. I think thats whats happening here.
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 7 күн бұрын
I think these issues go beyond a lack of a standardized 5.56 AK pattern. Firing pins that break at +/-1000 rounds shouldn’t happen regardless of caliber, and sure there isn’t a truly standard 5.56 AK mag, but the Pioneers aren’t even consistent from one rifle to the next as far as which mags they’ll accept.
@_iso_553
@_iso_553 6 күн бұрын
These are not "5.56 AK problems" these are pioneer problems. The only problem I had with my sam5 is that it was way overgassed. This is arsenals fault but the gun still works. Nothing broke from regular use. It takes Yugo, Bulgarian, polish, and American mags just fine. The firing pin still looks good. The chamber is clean.
@Spartan73799
@Spartan73799 6 күн бұрын
You are close but it depends on the country of origin. Some 5.56 AKs are true 74 Patter Rifles chambered for 5.56 (Think of Arsenals or Russian AKs) while others were AKM pattern rifles scaled down to fire 5.56 (Kinda like Norinco, Polish, Serbian, ect) That's why they tend to like certain types of magazines over others.
@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch
@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch 7 күн бұрын
Just buy a wasr guys tbh , hate shilling century but it's proven and not much more cash , I've owned 5 over the years and haven't gotten a bad one
@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch
@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch 7 күн бұрын
The commercial 5.56 polish guns seem to smash the fuck out of their firing pins , both wbp and pioneer do this shit
@ROFLSpriten
@ROFLSpriten 7 күн бұрын
I ended up buying a blem 5.56 AK from Pioneer for a decent sized discount from their sale + a smaller discount when I talked to the rep. I know the gas isn't as serious on blanks, but I used it for a milsim event where I ran through 600 rounds in a 40 hour period, plus an extra 200 rounds I ran through with it with real 5.56 so far. I've already bought a spare pin because it's a failure point, but I pulled out my stock one and shaved down the head so it doesn't slap the back of the primer and make the rounds unusable if I want to reload. Also went ahead and took off the stock oil, regreased with white-lithium and worked everything in so now it's running smoothly. Best mags that you can buy for these AKs are the bulgarian 5.56 ones. They go in a bit tough during the initial rock and lock but the plastic shaves off the top due from the magwell and now they all seat and feed perfectly. No wiggle or wobble either, so I think it might just be luck of the draw. I haven't seen many signs of excess wear on my carrier or bolt so far that wouldn't be above normal from what I've seen. For 500-ish dollars, I'm not upset. I wouldn't trust my life with it, but it is fun to mag dump into trash.
@user-qn5iv3cf7b
@user-qn5iv3cf7b 7 күн бұрын
I found the first mistake... You bought a 5.56 AK..... Whats the point..... Actually
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 7 күн бұрын
The main appeal is that 5.56 is the closest approximation to 5.45, so it allows for a 74-style AK but with cheaper ammo that’s available literally everywhere.
@user-qn5iv3cf7b
@user-qn5iv3cf7b 6 күн бұрын
@@hobofactory i get that
@bushmonster9899
@bushmonster9899 7 күн бұрын
I wonder if shaving the back of the pin would help. Is the firing pin flush with the back of the bolt when its all the way forward?
@killaronjones3933
@killaronjones3933 7 күн бұрын
I wouldn't expect anything else from a cheap Pioneer rifle. May as well get an M90, 5.56 WBP, or a Beryl.
@NormalishGuy
@NormalishGuy 8 күн бұрын
I purchased a folding stock Pioneer arms 556, close to 500ish rounds and honestly can say it ran great no issues and pretty accurate with a 103 muzzle adapter. Now I’m waiting for the firing pin to poop lol
@bradenpetty3828
@bradenpetty3828 6 күн бұрын
I bought one for shitts and giggs when they went on sale. I was very suprised with the rifles accuracy as well. I was hard on this gun, and it ran just like an AK should until it became JAM-O-MATIC after 600 rounds (Tula .223). I just sold it recently for the same price I paid for it 😂🤣
@NormalishGuy
@NormalishGuy 6 күн бұрын
@@bradenpetty3828 it’s good to hear something like thief minus the jamming part, you probably should have put a 12 gage brush through it with a drill lightly that should have fixed it. I’ve never ran steel through mine yet, heck brass is just as cheap so I’ve been using brass, only issue is my fun beats the heck out of the case when ejected so I figured welp… I don’t reload so it is what it is lol