Susie really is an enigma that makes me speculate and think a lot about her For starters, in a realistic point of view, you wouldn't meddle with someone like Susie. No matter how tragic your agressor's life is, that does not excuse the abuse they put you trough. And surely a lot of us if were in place of Kris we'd had used the knife the first time she physically assaulted us. And then there's the fact about how she basically breaks the game in chapter 2 teaching herself and Ralsei how to act and forcing Ralsei to accompany her leaving Kris alone. Her overall personality makes me wonder and speculate if others reached out to help her but every opportunity she had to accept help she pushed them away leading to regret and her situation worsening. I mean, hell, it made me wonder if Susie even had an older sibling like Kris who tried to help her out but gave up when she refused every time. I mean, Susie seems like the type that had opportunities to receive help but denied every time which led to her current situation but who knows

She and Noelle are some of my favs

Man, I've never noticed how important of a role Susie was taking in the story. Her counterpoint with King was also something new to me, and really widened mu eyes

This series of videos is so epic

Lancer is a mirror to who Susie could become if she makes friends and King is a mirror to who Susie could become if she _doesn't_ ... ... I think the dark worlds are someone else's (cough _h i m_ cough) way of helping the people in town become better people.

Undertale is one of the few instances where a spoiler actually enhanced my experience. I had seen fanart of Asriel before playing, and had the reasonable assumption that we would meet and that he was pretty integral to the narrative. He was in the back of my mind for the whole game. Then I got to New Home and learned that he’d been in the ground since before the game even started. My jaw hit the floor. How??? I became obsessed with finding him, figuring out what really happened, and most importantly, saving him. I knew he was out there, I had seen the hug. I knew I could bring him back. And then I did, and had to leave him to a soulless eternity over the grave of his friend and sibling while everyone else got their happy ending. And that’s how Undertale made me cry.

I’m honestly scared to see what circumstances led to Susie feeling the need to push people away so violently at the beginning of Chapter 1, to threaten someone with actual murder at the assumption that they’ll report her. We still know NOTHING concrete about her home life, if she even has one. It’s easy to see abusive/neglectful parents as an obvious cause, but knowing Toby there’s no way it’s that simple. It’s gonna be a WAY bigger gut punch, I can just tell.

Something that is kind obscure about Kris is their interaction with Susie before the start of the game during the Sweepstakes ARG. Is a private post made by Noelle. She says she heard Susie trying to bully Kris (which has probably happened quite often) She tries to provoke Kris, who is sleeping at the class desk, by calling them an idiot, but Kris only looks when called by name. Susie then bites an apple from Alphys's table and says that if they keep using apple shampoo they will end up like this. Kris doesn't show any reaction, she tries to reinforce it, but still no reaction. Angry Susie tries to throw the apple at Kris, but they block it using the notebook as a shield. then bite the apple and look at Susie, who becomes even angrier. She grabs them by the hair and says "One day, your mom's gonna get sick of you, you little freak. And as soon as that happens..." and laughs, "Someone might make you disappear. And she'll finally realize how happy she was without you." Kris shows no reaction. Which makes her explode in anger, saying "SAY SOMETHING, YOU IDIOT!!!" Then Kris says something, something that makes Susie release them and leave the room in a hurry. And more bizarre than that, Kris, when leaving the room, opens the door to the closet where Noelle was hiding, stares at her and leaves. definitely a very obscure piece of Kris's personality as a character, but one of the most expressive so far, in my opinion.

That's not the best title for a female character you know

If Kris and Susie don't hug after a sad/scary/haunting moment later I will be very disappointed.

guys, kris will be important to the main conflict in deltarune. trust me.

Could you include in the Berdly video that Berdly's theme has a very similar bassline to The Legend's bassline at 1:29. No other lightner has it.

Yesss. Keep feeding me with DT brainrot until ch 3+4 drop. Thumbs up! 😊

The dark knight

Susie will be majorly important to the main conflict in deltarune, mark my words

God I hate Lancer

OMGGMGMGGMG SLAY THE SPIREEEE

Always excited about Susie analysis! We stan our dinosaur girl 💜🦖

We are so Vivat Veriback

Susie is the character that intrests me the most after Kris. I am so excited to see more of her in later chapters

One of the strangest preexisting relationships Susie seems to have going into Deltarune has got to be with Toriel. According to Noelle's blog, Susie was "the new girl" relatively recently, having come from elsewhere to start attending Alphys's class. She wouldn't have had Toriel as a teacher like most of the other kids would have, and this is reinforced by the fact that Toriel was only familiar with Susie second-hand via Alphys rather than as someone she taught. And yet, Susie is somehow very familiar with Toriel. She is the only authority figure Susie ever shows respect for, and a not insignificant amount of her bullying of Kris seemed fixated on their relationship with her. And then there's the moment when they meet at the end of Chapter 2. Susie is incredibly nervous, and when Toriel introduces herself by her first name, Susie says that she remembers, which surprises her. Then, when she correctly guesses Susie's name from having heard it from Alphys, Susie is caught of guard and says "You... remember my name, too?" Susie met Toriel at some point in the past and the encounter clearly left quite the impression on her, but it was apparently unremarkable to Toriel herself, and Susie knows this, (correctly) not expecting Toriel to remember her. But as far as what we can draw from this with regards to Susie as a character goes... I've got nothing. This behavior is deliberately mysterious and occasionally outright contradictory to how Susie behaves around literally anyone else, and without the context of future chapters we just don't know what the deal is. All we know is that Susie's backstory seems a lot more significant or complicated than "has a bad home life, moved to town recently," and I am extremely excited to eventually explore it.

This is fantastic! I'm loving this series!

I promised you I would watch it first thing in the morning, but I'm still awake. Let's gooooooooo!

Another banger character analysis :3

HOLY SHIT SUSIE ANALYSIS (also first)

This might be a stretch. But what if ralsei in essence is supposed to be that younger version of kris who wanted their horns fo grow in. The kid who wanted to be like their parents turned into a darkner and given an identity separate from kris.

8:32 you cut off the note bend resolving the musical tention in that piece, and have therefor sinned against all mankind. How could you?

Okay, that "Da Devil from Da Bible" joke got me more than I was planning.

I think Ralsei will become an antagonist. They will try to free Kris from our control, because Kris is their friend. But since we're the player, we will be at odds with this.

After my brother died I had dreams about him. In one of them he was brought back from the death by an evil man (I somehow knew he was evil in that dream). But he was younger than he was when he actually died and someway he also wasn't truly him. When I brought up these concerns to my parents, how he wasn't the same person we knew and loved and how clinging onto him wasn't healthy, they dismissed me and even became angry at me. What you talked about in this video reminded me of that dream and funnily, although perhaps fittingly, it mirrors my dream quite a lot. It is not healthy to cling to the past and in doing so you might end up hurting others that you care about. It really hurt when my parents ignored me for my brothers ghost, but luckily it was only in the dream. We all love him even when we're moving on.

This does make think that Kris may not be the Knight and really only opened a dark world just to spend more time with Suzie

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

We'll have the next chapters before next December ends, so you'll have plenty to talk about next time!

One puzzle piece I think is missing from our understanding of Kris: Undertale was entirely driven by the differences in the SOULs of humans and monsters. To some part this is a contrived way to parallel RPG protagonists and players, but... I think that difference will be echoed somehow in Deltarune. The second floor of the library has to have really spicy stuff in it, after all, and it's not a coming of age story without having SOME parts of yourself you can accept not being able to change. Plus it's a way to unpack the comedic misunderstandings toriel got from learning about humans through a library book.

I can't wait for the Kris character relationship analysis

17:05 man 😂

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I think, out of everything we can possibly know about Kris at this stage, that the most clear-cut bits are the few fleeting moments where Kris... utilizes malicious compliance, for lack of a better term, to force their will in situations where they otherwise would not be able to. I can think of four specific examples of this, most in Chapter 2: First and most obvious is in Queen's Mansion, if you try to get Kris to open the door to Asriel's search history room, Kris does so, but keeps their eyes closed. Second, attempting to play the hospital piano in both chapters results in Kris simply slamming a few keys discordantly, and in Chapter 2 Susie notes that Kris is visibly angry while doing so, which is a rare emotion from them. The other two both involve reading things in the Light World. If you attempt to read the book on caring for humans, Kris opens the book, but quickly shuts it upon seeing things that make them uncomfortable. Finally, if you read the news article about Undyne's promotion to police chief, the narration very pointedly trails off when it gets to why Asgore was dismissed because "there's no need to read any more." The shared trait between all four of these instances is that examining these things would show us, the presence controlling Kris, things that they would very much like to be kept private. Obviously examining the contents of someone's internet search history is a violation of privacy, and Asriel is where Kris draws the line on that. We know from the Spamton Sweepstakes blog entries from Noelle that Kris would often play the piano for somewhat mysterious reasons, and while they had no problem doing so where others could hear it, they outright refused to be *seen* while doing it, stopping the moment they realized someone was watching. We are *always* watching them. And finally, while their exact feelings on the topics are unknown beyond obvious discomfort, exact circumstances of their childhood as a human raised by monsters and the events that led to Asgore's disgrace and the likely reason for the divorce of their parents are both things that Kris would be fully within their rights to keep to themselves under normal circumstances. These are not things you share with strangers, much less unknowable extradimensional entities that are privy to your every waking moment for 99% of the day.

Hi Vivat, would you be able to increase the narration volume in subsequent uploads? I love your vids but they can be hard to hear sometimes

This analysis was great as always; I think it does a great job on understanding Kris as a character rather than a lore piece, and also as a complex human being

I LOVE KRISPY KREME DREEMURR

I think in the case of Susie, Kris had some level of control (not the perfect word but it works) over it as we read on Noelle's blog. & while strange I think they actually considers Noelle a friend even if they don't realise it. Also, maybe you should have talked about Catti? They did study the occult together & act friendly in their own antisocial way. If there is anything else worth mentioning would be Kris's pranks: pretending ketchup was blood, scaring Noelle with the Ice-e thing, hiding under Noelle's bed, repeatedly prankcalling Berdly; which (excluding the Berdly one) are all kind of dark.

GUYS KRIS IS REAL LOOK!!!!!!!!.........😑

10:21 I don't fully buy into third entity theory but we need a far better explanation for why Kris themselves would slash the tires and open a dark world. And so far, I've not seen any good explanation. Does Kris want Susie to stay? Uh, yeah. But why would they immediately go to slashing tires rather than just like... asking first, at least. I'm not saying Kris is the most emotionally intelligent character, but I'm sure they would at least make that attempt when it's clear Toriel really likes the fact that Kris has a friend now. Does Kris want the police to show up and see a dark world? Well, Kris isn't stupid (in fact they're supposed to be quite smart), so if they did, they could just call the police themselves with a fake emergency. That's the obvious solution here rather than the ""200 IQ"" solution of slashing tires, hoping Toriel notices, and hoping she also calls the police. Being a troubled kid doesn't really explain that. Does Kris hate Toriel? We have absolutely no indication of that, but maybe? I guess Kris pouts when Toriel holds their hand on the way to school, but that's about it. I generally doubt that Kris truly hates her. Does Kris want Toriel to be sucked into the dark world? Maybe, except there's no good reason to expect that during the snowgrave route. Why risk it? Does Kris want to spend more time in a dark world? Well, we've seen more indication that they are extremely worried about them and fully buy into what Ralsei said about the Roaring. So no, that doesn't make too much sense for them to risk it. If it's truly Kris doing it, then there has to be some explanation that goes beyond them being a smol bean who loves their friends and wants them to stay or something trivial like that. We know Kris is a troublemaker, but this goes quite a bit further. Something is up with them that goes beyond normal kids' worries and it's definitely not just our influence that worries them.

Great video! Can we get a Berdly analysis too?

thank you so much for continuing to feed the kris-shaped void in my soul 😭😭

An ODD question, but WHY are those shelves empty in Kriss's room? He could put ANYTHING on them. Trading cards, action figures, an interesting ROCK. Sure, his brother put a trophy there, before he'd ever existed. SO WHAT? That don't make them trophy shelves. He's gone so far into not competing, that he didn't DO anything? Is that rebellious nihilism, or is he that depressed... the kind of depressed that walks up a mountain that nobody, EVER, comes back from?

I do not understand how anybody can believe Kris isn't being controlled. For god sake, he didn't remove his soul during Snowgrave, failed to warn anyone of the danger his possession represent after Snowgrave, and Toby Fox as been throwing as many red flag as he could to make souless "Kris" be as menacing and evil as possible. Not a single one of souless Kris's actions have been what we would expect Kris to do, every single one has to be explained away by wild supposition and ultraspecific theories.