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@HolaPina
@HolaPina 7 сағат бұрын
I came into the site with years of already learning but I still watch beginning and super beginners for vocabulary despite being high intermediate. Good content
@bart3872
@bart3872 Күн бұрын
you explained how both methods work while staying under 10minutes, love that
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad it was helpful!
@attachou
@attachou Күн бұрын
I have tried refold for so long but I clash, I find the method like DS helps me best, as I hate anki and never was too keen on studying vocab daily, sometime i do close master here and there, but mostly i get input!
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Күн бұрын
That's a great way to go about it!
@cryptotharg7400
@cryptotharg7400 5 күн бұрын
Ich bin ein Berliner! I ain't some kinda Spanish Kid!
@FromCaliColombia
@FromCaliColombia 7 күн бұрын
Bro u rock, l support you, your spanish is awesome 💯 Best wishes and good luck in your goals.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Күн бұрын
Thank you!
@grafvonkartoffel1455
@grafvonkartoffel1455 8 күн бұрын
I love you man, you explained it perfectly ❤
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Күн бұрын
Thank you so much!
@parati1309
@parati1309 10 күн бұрын
This is such good advice - thanks so much!
@Pnkfloid49
@Pnkfloid49 11 күн бұрын
Just recently reached 1500 hours using the Dreaming Spanish method and I can comfortably say it works just as advertised. In fact it feels like magic!
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 10 күн бұрын
@@Pnkfloid49 congrats!!!!!
@HakendaNatan
@HakendaNatan 11 күн бұрын
good
@1chumley1
@1chumley1 15 күн бұрын
I watch the DS videos for a lot of my CI. I have found it is exactly like exercise. Your improvement is so slow as to be inperceptible, but if you keep fun, you'll be more likely to do it everyday without getting burnt out.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Күн бұрын
Yep! It takes time to build up stamina for watching lots of stuff in another language!
@JemimahMai
@JemimahMai 17 күн бұрын
Really great explanation of Dreaming Spanish! I’m less than 30 hours in and started as a super beginner with 0 experience in Spanish and I’m already amazed by how much I can understand in the Super Beginner videos now compared to when I first started. I can’t wait to see how much I’ll progress in the next year! Cheers
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 16 күн бұрын
I'm glad you liked the video and hope learning Spanish is as fun for you as it was for me!
@ramav87
@ramav87 20 күн бұрын
I am at ~500 hours of DS and I love the method, the one issue I have with it is that I don't believe you will 'speak like a native' at 1500 hours. To give an example, if you are brought up in a bilingual household, many kids will simply speak one language and understand the other - but they will not be able to speak it despite tens of thousands of hours of input. Speaking is something that takes deliberate practice. After 14 months I have begun speaking lessons with a tutor online, and I find it very enjoyable. We will see whether I can reach conversational level by ~1000 hours. But CI is definitely >80% of what I do.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Күн бұрын
I do agree that at 1500 hours you won't be comparable to a native. Though I do think the answer for getting better at speaking is still, overall, getting more input! Though specifically practicing speaking does help too. Also, good luck! I'd love to hear how you feel at 1000 if you want to give an update haha
@sandcurves
@sandcurves 26 күн бұрын
I've also been doing both, although now I mainly just use DS as a tracker and use Linqg to get me reading.
@jeremymorris6738
@jeremymorris6738 29 күн бұрын
They're really the same method. They just use a different method for creating comprehensibility. Refold was originally designed for japanese, where there isn't really a resource like DS, but it just happens to be adaptable to any language. If there was a DS version for every language refold would basically be just doing that plus flashcards/learning the writing system.
@papercliprain3222
@papercliprain3222 Ай бұрын
This is fantastic advice. I am already implementing this and seeing great results. I love to talk about movies but funnily enough I had not listened to much movie reviews in my target language, so I looked up “best movies” in Japanese and watched some videos and I’ve already gotten better at saying what I like or don’t like about a move.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
I'm so happy to hear that it's working for you!!!
@diegoaugusto1561
@diegoaugusto1561 Ай бұрын
I think you're right. As someone who learned English as a second language, I subconsciously did it the way you described: by consuming content related to the fields I liked. However, when I went overseas and had to use my English, I noticed how often I stumbled because I couldn't keep a train of thought in that target language. And it was with simple stuff too, like describing my route, how my country is, etc. The key to actually being fluent is learning to think in the target language. I'm Brazilian, so I speak Portuguese. Both languages have very similar structures, so thinking in English is not that different structure wise. This helps you formulate thoughts and articulate way better than to think in your mother language and then translate the sentence on the fly to your target language. I'm also learning Japanese, and their language structure is completely different than either English or Portuguese. It is hard to think in such a language because it requires you to change your way of thinking. (Talking from a romance language speaker POV).
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
Yes! It’s almost always the most simple seeming things that give the most trouble because it’s like “wait how do I not know how to say that????” And the different language structures make such a difference because your brain can’t any shortcuts!!!!
@grandmasophiependragon
@grandmasophiependragon Ай бұрын
How do you set the alarm to play news?
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
On IOS, what I did is set a shortcut that starts playing my podcasts on a certain podcast app at the time I want to wake up. The only podcast I was following was a daily news podcast. So it would start playing that first thing in the morning!
@grandmasophiependragon
@grandmasophiependragon Ай бұрын
@@DoomscrollToFluency Thanks!
@teolinek
@teolinek Ай бұрын
So "Gardeners' Question Time" instead of "Kingdom of Plants" movie?
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
Exactly! You will learn tons of important vocabulary from each of those but if you want to be able to talk about the process of actually gardening, there's no substitute for content where people talk about the process of gardening.
@DiaryBahasa-bs8yg
@DiaryBahasa-bs8yg Ай бұрын
The music is too loud. 😭
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
My apologies! I appreciate the feedback and am going to make the music quieter for future videos!
@angrypanda_25
@angrypanda_25 Ай бұрын
I think you can make the floating head work, same way Cure Dolly made the android gimmick work. Rest in peace Cure Dolly✊😔
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
I appreciate the feedback! I’m gonna play around with for a few videos to try to figure out what works best.
@elizabethdegroot89
@elizabethdegroot89 Ай бұрын
I can’t believe this has so few views! It’s incredibly helpful. I’m actually American (from upstate NY originally) and I’m trying to get rid of my regional accent since moving to the west coast (I’m sick of people teasing me about how obnoxiously New Yorker I sound lol), but I couldn’t figure out how to sound just “American” when I’m already American 😂 . I tried watching news anchors but quickly lost interest. I’ll try finding a “family” now instead 🤔 ☺️. (On a side note, I’m also learning Spanish for fun. I think I’ll focus on trying to find some Latino American KZbinrs because that’s the accent I’d like.) Thank you for the help!!
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
The NY accent is beautiful but if you do want to get rid of it, this would work haha at least, until you got really excited or angry and then it would probably come right back! 🤣 I'm happy you found the video helpful! Would love to hear an update about how it goes with your Spanish!
@默-c1r
@默-c1r Ай бұрын
this is brilliant, I thought about this problem but never thought of a solution
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
I'm happy it could be helpful!
@silpheedTandy
@silpheedTandy Ай бұрын
i downvoted because the background music is too loud and, especially, too distracting. any background music with percussion (eg, the music you use has a kind of percussive sound on beats 2 and 4) takes SO much focus away from your narration. i can try to just read the transcript instead, but it is not as engaging as watching a video. it frustrates and makes me sad, to see content creators put in effort into their videos, only to ruin them for me by background music that is too loud or too distracting
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
I am still learning how to make videos and appreciate the feedback. I will make sure to be more mindful of any background music/noise in the future.
@zoey1925
@zoey1925 Ай бұрын
i’m very guilty of listening to mexican podcasters and youtubers, colombian tiktokers, mexican tv programs, and various music genres from artists across latin america from argentina to colombia to PR and mexico 😅 limiting input to a few people from 1 country makes a lot of logical sense to achieve a more fluent or “native result” but it’s easier said than done when I enjoy content from multiple places 😅😅 maybe i will try to be more mindful of who I listen to more
@zoey1925
@zoey1925 Ай бұрын
btw i prefer the floating head more than the stock videos haha
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with listening to speakers of lots of different dialects if you enjoy that more!!!
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
and I appreciate the feedback. haha I am playing around with some different ways of making videos to find one that works and that I, and hopefully everyone else, likes!
@katherinep1010
@katherinep1010 Ай бұрын
Good video, but the floating head is pretty creepy
@angrypanda_25
@angrypanda_25 Ай бұрын
Let him cook!
@CreoleLadyMarmalade
@CreoleLadyMarmalade 25 күн бұрын
@@angrypanda_25 Right! I like it
@raysouth1952
@raysouth1952 Ай бұрын
I kind of do this. I primarily use Dreaming Spanish filtered to Spain. Once my comprehension allowed, I started listening to podcasts and watching KZbin videos, also from Spain. I also filter further to a more or less standard Spain accent (not Andalucia). I’m just beginning to read so again I’m sticking to Spanish writers, or translations to Spain Spanish. I don’t know whether this has helped but I do know that my progress has been smooth and very steady with no jumps or setbacks.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
That's a fantastic way to go about it! Helps keep everything cohesive!
@vladimuji100
@vladimuji100 Ай бұрын
Really nice videos. Someone wanna practice his or her spanish? I need to practice my english. I'am a native spanish speaker. If interested, let's get in touch. Could practice on telegram or WA even.
@UrAshWhole
@UrAshWhole Ай бұрын
Where can you find someone to crosstalk with?
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
You can use apps like HelloTalk or Tandem. You can pay a tutor to crosstalk with you on iTalki. You can meet a language exchange partner on reddit or facebook. You can also join discord servers (For spanish, there are Spanish-English discord servers and I'm sure there are similar servers for other languages!)
@bobespanol
@bobespanol Ай бұрын
you have an ig or email i can contact you by?
@michaelsager5688
@michaelsager5688 Ай бұрын
You expressed that beautifully! It's refreshing to see such honesty. I had a similar experience; I felt a sense of relief and hope about learning Spanish when I found honest KZbinrs and programs that explained this journey would take years. This understanding lifted the unrealistic burdens off me and allowed me to relax into my new journey.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
Exactly! It takes so much pressure off to know that it just takes a long time!
@michaelsager5688
@michaelsager5688 Ай бұрын
@@DoomscrollToFluency 🤗
@michaelsager5688
@michaelsager5688 Ай бұрын
I use both sites for my language learning journey. Dreaming Spanish(DS) feels too hands-off for me, while Refold is a bit too intense. So, I have settled into using DS for 1-2 hours of comprehensible input a day. I also study flashcards, use Pimsleur, and listen to as much passive Spanish as I can, even when I don't understand the words or the meaning usually música or shows. Along with random KZbin videos, some Memrise, and anything else that catches my interest, I'm keeping the process fun. I feel like I'm getting the best of both worlds, tailored to my needs and abilities.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
This is very similar to what I did! Mostly following DS and getting lots of comprehensible input while also using flashcards!
@michaelsager5688
@michaelsager5688 Ай бұрын
@DoomscrollToFluency Thanks for sharing this! It gives me confidence to hear someone that came before me used a similar strategy 😁
@jeffreybarker357
@jeffreybarker357 2 ай бұрын
The real secret is just doing both of these. I use Dreaming Spanish every single day (1,400 hours right now) and supplement with the ES1K deck from Refold and I read. These two are made for one another.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
This is basically how I approached it too!
@ahmetselimkaygn5607
@ahmetselimkaygn5607 22 күн бұрын
​@@DoomscrollToFluency but dont they claim that studying useless and kills the natural acquiring and makes you a translator instead of nativelike
@breadshovel
@breadshovel 22 күн бұрын
@@ahmetselimkaygn5607 thats one of their..... more controversial claims......
@breadshovel
@breadshovel 22 күн бұрын
@@ahmetselimkaygn5607 and i say this as a fellow inputter myself
@joachimjustinmorgan4851
@joachimjustinmorgan4851 14 күн бұрын
@@ahmetselimkaygn5607yeah, that’s what they believe. Just because they believe that does not mean that you have to believe it too. Their materials and method is great. I think that you are slowing your progress down by exclusively getting input and not reading or trying to speak. Their claim that it’s natural is also completely false. Children begin attempting to speak as soon as they can make noise.
@zachsmith8916
@zachsmith8916 2 ай бұрын
I fall into the category for Dreaming Spanish as someone who doesn´t necessarily enjoy a lot of the content. I do typically like Agustina´s videos about history, travel, geography, etc. That´s not to say I like zero percent of what the others put out but just not consistently, so it makes it a little disheartening when I find a lot of it kind of boring.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
I totally understand that- It's not for everyone. Refold is definitely a good way to go if you don't like DS's videos!
@PrinceOfSlytherin
@PrinceOfSlytherin 2 ай бұрын
So basically just immersion... I recommend Migaku, which is paid and language reactor or better said comprehensible input but the crosstalk is a fascinating, never heard about that
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency Ай бұрын
Let me know if you end up trying crosstalk! I'd love to hear how it goes for you.
@PrinceOfSlytherin
@PrinceOfSlytherin Ай бұрын
@@DoomscrollToFluency idk I think talking to a native speaker being ablento correct you one to one seems better to me though it might Not Be ad accesable
@languagedaisy
@languagedaisy 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! One of my goals is to be able to read Percy Jackson in Spanish. The mini stories on LingQ don't capture my attention enough even though I appreciate the purpose of their structure. I normally listen to Spanish teaching podcasts and follow along with the transcript on LingQ
@handle-dash-numbers
@handle-dash-numbers 2 ай бұрын
The biggest problem I see with DS is that it takes a very long time. If you're devoting 1 hour per day, it will take you FOUR YEARS to reach 1500 hours. If you're devoting two hours a day, it will still take TWO years before starting to even try output. And that's just to START with output. Of course, when you first start outputting, you're going to have a whole new set of learning to do. I don't see DS as being a good method by itself. It's a good source of material to leverage comprehensible input. But unless you're willing to spend a very long time for low-effort methods to eventually pay off, it should only be a PART of your learning plan.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
According to the DS method, outputting is optional at 600 hours and recommended at 1000 hours.
@handle-dash-numbers
@handle-dash-numbers 2 ай бұрын
@@DoomscrollToFluency Oh, my mistake. I guess I got the specific number wrong. Now that I've said that, perhaps you can try to actually see the forest through the trees to recognize that my point still stands.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
@@handle-dash-numbers there is a big difference between 600 hours and 1500 hours. Also, DS is not a ‘low effort method that eventually pays off,’ it is a method built around the idea that output abilities are a result of a strong mental model of the language- the only way to develop that is through lots of input. It is paying off the entire time because you are developing and expanding your mental model. Other popular input based methods also typically recommend some amount of time at the start where you are just getting input.
@handle-dash-numbers
@handle-dash-numbers 2 ай бұрын
@@DoomscrollToFluency Are you honestly this stupid that you aren't getting the point, or are you intentionally being stupid so that you can avoid the point? Sure, 600 hours. Do the elementary school level math. At an hour a day it will still take you two years to get there. At two hours a day, it will still take you a year. That is an extremely long time to wait before you start outputting. THAT is the point, you damn moron. How does it feel to be such a waste of oxygen? Your whole existence consists of making money off ad revenues from KZbin videos where you say stupid garbage, and then double down on that stupid garbage.
@xexling
@xexling 2 ай бұрын
My perspective is a little different. I have a solid foundation of grammar and vocabulary but still had the habit of translating in my head which inhibits my conversational skills. A video on KZbin recommended comprehensible input as a solution to this problem. I have no idea the why but watching the DS videos has greatly improved my conversational skills. I hear the Spanish and I respond in Spanish without the stop off at English in both directions. Even though they speak slower than normal, it helps me process faster Speakers.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
That's awesome! I'm happy DS is working for you.
@LearnSpanishWithIndieGames
@LearnSpanishWithIndieGames 2 ай бұрын
Hace unos meses empecé a leer libros en inglés en voz alta y descubrí que el tiempo de mi concentración aumentaba considerablemente y que muchas palabras, que aún no había dicho, en mi cabeza sonaban bien, pero cuando intentaba decirlas, mi boca no era capaz de pronunciarlas correctamente. Así que, creo que con este método también estoy trabajando la pronunciación y la musculatura de la boca. El punto negativo es que lo hago en todos los lugares donde suelo leer, como la playa, la piscina, el salón de mi casa... y a mis hijas y mi mujer les da mucha vergüenza estar a mi lado xD. No sé si le servirá a todo el mundo, pero para mi funciona muy bien. Gracias por los consejos.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
I have been meaning to practice reading aloud! I’ve heard it’s really helpful but have only tried it a few times.
@FromCaliColombia
@FromCaliColombia 7 күн бұрын
Mano no le preste atención yo vivo en el distrito de agua blanca soy joven no tanto, y dicen que estoy loco oe miran como si fuera alguien corrido, a mi em ocasiones me toca practicar en la calle en mi casa en ocasiones es totalmente imposible practicar
@FromCaliColombia
@FromCaliColombia 7 күн бұрын
Ya me suscribí te apoyo de cora 💯
@raysouth1952
@raysouth1952 2 ай бұрын
When I set out on the Spanish learning journey I bought Cuentos de Eva Luna by Isabel Allende to read when I could. I read it in English years ago and loved it. I’m only at just under 200 hours with Dreaming Spanish but I use LingQ and Lingopie to read and listen at the same time. I enjoy it.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
I feel like I am seriously missing out not having read her books. She has been on my list for a while!
@flinput
@flinput 2 ай бұрын
I like your idea of a “goal book.” Brilliant.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
Let me know what you choose if you choose one :)
@flinput
@flinput 2 ай бұрын
@@DoomscrollToFluency The Master and Margarita. Every Russian will tell you that it’s untranslatable. It is now officially my goal book.
@raysouth1952
@raysouth1952 2 ай бұрын
@@flinput great choice. Fantastic story.
@flinput
@flinput 2 ай бұрын
“When you read easier stuff, you can read more stuff. And when you read more stuff, you get better at reading and can read harder stuff.” Amen.
@tinynhhouse5467
@tinynhhouse5467 2 ай бұрын
I have the first 5 books in Juan Fernandez Spanish For Beginners series. They build in difficulty level but I found them easy and interesting to read.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
I have heard great things about these!
@FromCaliColombia
@FromCaliColombia 7 күн бұрын
I recommend You read Gabriel García Márquez Cien años de soledad and books & writters of the same type for starting cruz it is too many reviews in english on internet about it, now the movie the Netflix is doing is nearly to the premier
@joreneelanguages
@joreneelanguages 2 ай бұрын
This is so true & such a great reminder!!
@laurafindsjoy
@laurafindsjoy 2 ай бұрын
Learning to be as kind to yourself as you are to others is SUCH a valuable skill!
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
Yes!!
@laurafindsjoy
@laurafindsjoy 3 ай бұрын
Some really helpful insights here! AND this makes me want to try watching Avatar in Spanish 😄
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! and absolutely do! It's such a fantastic show.
@reggietkatter
@reggietkatter 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos though I’m terribly biased (I did 2.5 years or so of DS. The best IMO). Great stuff! Keep up the nice work. Have you ever tried crosstalk?
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! and I have done ~75 hours of crosstalk (give or take a bit) and am planning on making a video on it at some point!
@balsamicstrawberry
@balsamicstrawberry 3 ай бұрын
I needed this video today. Thank you.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate it! and your 1300h update video is awesome!
@balsamicstrawberry
@balsamicstrawberry 3 ай бұрын
Well said!!! Also, what a relaxing video.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@toocat2000000
@toocat2000000 3 ай бұрын
You mention about taking Spanish in school for years and lessons etc . Did you include those hours in how long it took to be fluent ? If not , how many hours in and out of DS has it taken you , Total ? Nice video by the way . Very encouraging .
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 3 ай бұрын
I took two years of Spanish in middle school over 15 years ago. While it's impossible to say for sure, I don't think they really made any difference. I could not understand any spoken Spanish when I started DS, did not remember vocabulary from the classes outside the words that have sort of just become part of american english (like hola, adios) and I was conversational around 1000h of Dreaming Spanish. Right now, I am at around 2400 hours total.
@toocat2000000
@toocat2000000 3 ай бұрын
@@DoomscrollToFluency Thanks man.
@tinynhhouse5467
@tinynhhouse5467 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for mentioning this series. I need to do more reading in Spanish.
@DoomscrollToFluency
@DoomscrollToFluency 3 ай бұрын
Let me know what you think of them!