No, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Maharaja directly ordered Srila Prabhupada. Please don't speculate. There is so much evidence. Here are just a few of them: Srila Prabhupada's lecture in London, August 3, 1973 … “On My order.” That is the crucial point. One does not become spiritual master by his own whims. That is not spiritual master. He must be ordered by superior authority. Then he’s spiritual master. Just like in our case. Our superior authority, our spiritual master, he ordered me .… The only qualification is that I have tried to execute the order of superior authority. That’s all. This is the secret of success. Bhagavad-gita 7.2 - Nairobi, October 28, 1975 Indian man: When did you become the spiritual leader of Krsna consciousness? Prabhupada: When my Guru Maharaja ordered me. This is the guru-parampara. … Try to understand. Don't go very speedily. A guru can become guru when he's ordered by his guru. That's all. Otherwise nobody can become guru….You should know that one can become guru when he is ordered by his guru, this much. Nectar of Devotion lectures, Vrindavan, India, October 31, 1972 He is self-made guru. Therefore he’s not guru. Self-made guru cannot be guru. He must be authorized by the bona fide guru. Then he’s guru. Bona fide guru means he must be authorized by the superior guru…. He must receive the order from the superior. And the superior must be bona fide. Then he’s bona fide, not self-made. In conclusion, what Srila Prabhupada was able to do, and no one else, is the ultimate proof that he was ordered and empowered. kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nahe tāra pravartana.

It's in Mayapur, in Maharaja's preaching center

Hare Krsna. Sridham Mayapur, West Bengal

If I say yes or no, what difference will it make? You will not be able to understand either way because it's a question of revelation. The only way to know is to get the mercy of Lord Nityananda. If you really want to know then pray to Him. He will reveal it to you. And the other way is to hear directly from Maharaja and judge by the result of hearing, how it affects and purifies your consciousness. Otherwise how will you understand who is directly in touch with Krsna? This is the process.

Amar aagya guru hoi tara ei desh. That 'aagya' is given into the heart, and not publically written or spoken, for it may cause havoc among some envious people. Whom Prabhupada nominated will always be a secret. And yes the sampraday succession is flowing like river without stopage.

In this material world everyone is suffering from anxiety and fearfulness. But by the mercy of Krsna in the for of real bonafide spiritual master on can have nice spiritual shelter and protection which will free one from all kind of material anxieties, insecurities and fearfulness which is basically suffering condition. And when one is free and happy like this then he dont have any material desires or ambitions, fully dependent on Krsna. Judge the thing by the result. If after associating with "sadhu" such affect is not being recieved then that is not good association for sure. We joined KC for spiritual shelter and protection from suffering in the first place. Not to just follow any personality. Even when one accepts Srila Prabhupāda as his guru, still he cannot trust one who is preaching him about Prabhupāda and telling him what Prabhupāda wants him to do, if that "Prabhupāda's man" is not bonafide. But only Prabhupāda knows who is his own man, if we will pray to him, he can reveal is to us that whom to surrender. Who is his man. Everyone claims they are Prabhupāda's man. "Self acclaimed Prabhupāda's man". Like Rtviks. We want real Prabhupāda's man for that we need to sincerily pray to Prabhupāda. It is only for sincere and serious people not for wretched class of man. The cheaters and the cheated. Materially motivated people. Real sincere people are rare and so are such Gurus also. They dont come in wholesale like its available now in ISKCON.

Hare Krsna! You just have to find simple and sincere souls who are actually interested in this topic and serious to surrender to Krsna. This message is meant for them. Others will have to get more lessons in the material world to actually sincerely cry out to Krsna. It's for the seekers of the truth.

You are misunderstanding. First of all, the video speaks of how the spiritual authorization of becoming a bona fide guru is coming from the previous acharya. He is the authority to say and not the managerial body of the GBC. The system of GBC's voting in gurus or not objecting is not genuine and Srila Gour Govinda Swami Maharaja did not accept it as such either. But it’s true that he followed the managerial authority of the GBC as desired by Srila Prabhupada. Here is how he explained it: Devotee: It is often said that a genuine guru must be a pure devotee. Understanding that, how do we see that today so many persons are accepting the position of guru? Gour Govinda Maharaja: Two sides are there, the spiritual side and the organizational side. This is an organizational matter. Unless they are allowed to accept disciples, the organization will collapse. There will be no cooperation. Only quarrelling and dissension. “Oh, he wants to be guru. All right, you do this thing.” Anyhow, maintain the society. This is an organizational matter. They want to be gurus. They want some position. This is all material and nothing else. They are doing some work for the society. They are general heads, managing the zone. So how else can a worldwide organization be managed? (Darshan, Bhubaneswar, 4 July 1992) And one more darshan: Devotee: Where did you take sannyasa? Gurudeva: Vrindavana, when that Krishna Balarama temple opened on Rama Navami day, you see, that day. I met Srila Prabhupada first in Vrindavan. I took sannyasa in Vrindavan. You understand? That is his causeless mercy. I had, I have no qualification. I am not so worthy person, unworthy fellow but he showered his mercy. When he whispered to me, in this room he told me, you have to accept disciples and train them. You should have your own men. Otherwise how can you manage? He told me that. So, then people came, they sought initiation from me but I was not allowed to accept disciples at that time. And some felt disappointed and left and went to Gaudiya Math and accepted spiritual master there. So I told in GBC that Prabhupada had told me this thing. They said, what is the proof? Proof is myself, he told me in my ear. It’s not recorded, it’s recorded in my heart. But in his first letter he has mentioned this thing. You have seen that first letter? Devotee: We went through the letter books, it’s there. Gurudeva: I have those books but I don’t know…. But I have that letter, first letter. There he mentioned, “Under your leadership, under your leadership, under your leadership. . .” Three times he has mentioned this thing that this Bhubaneswar will be developed like that. I showed that letter in the GBC. I said this is the letter. If I won’t be a leader, then how can I do it? Then they allowed and I told emphatically, “If you may not allow, but I must carry out the order of my spiritual master, I must do it.” They were frightened. I was so strong. Then they allowed me. Devotee: Is it we cannot rubber stamp somebody as spiritual master? Gurudeva: Rubber stamping won’t do it, rubber stamping won’t help. One who has developed prema for Krsna so he may, he won’t fall down in any circumstance. Why he’ll be attracted towards maya? This is most important thing. Question of prema. Devotee: Doesn’t seem like that’s the general teaching now. Now it’s generally accepted that one doesn’t have to have prema to be spiritual master. One can just be any level. Gurudeva: Any level. It has become cheap, has become so cheap. (Darshan, 24 November, 1989) These quotes should be sufficient to clear up the matter. Please study the books “My Revered Spiritual Master” and “When Good Forture Arises” by Srila Gour Govinda Swami Maharaja. All these matters are explained there.

Sure. In fact every devotee has to practice, get his own experience and faith and then share it with others. But a representative of Parampara in the true sense of meaning is a pure devotee, free from material contamination, ordered and authorized by the previous acharya to take this role. So there is a difference in qualification.

Hare Krsna. I was traveling and just now got a chance to open the computer and saw your comments. The answer is below. Thank you for good questions.

Hare Krsna prabhuji. Please hear this videoclip which is exactly the answer to your question. I hope it will give a clear answer and if something is still remaining then let's continue. You are asking good and relevant questions and I'm happy to try to help you to understand this important and crucial topic in spiritual life. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoW3Yaiga8emhs0si=nc2shpFc6yjm6vIA

Hare Krsna! I replied to your previous comment.

Thanks maharaj

Hare Krsna! We know about it from Srila Gour Govinda Swami himself. Here are two quotes where he spoke about it. First is from the book "Sri Guru-Vandana": "I have no qualification to become guru. I have no desire to become guru. That was not the purpose for which I left my home. My guru said, “Accept disciples. Give them training. Otherwise how can you do this project? You should have your own men, otherwise how can you manage it?” He told me again and again. He also wrote me a letter, “Under your leadership this project will be done.” At that time I said, “My dear Srila Prabhupada, I don’t want to be the head. I want to be the tail.” But he said, “I want!” That means that my gurudeva wants that I become guru and accept disciples. To accept disciples means to welcome very great danger. You should understand that I am in a very, very dangerous situation. I cannot eat. I cannot sleep at night. You will never find a more distressed person than myself, a person who is in a more dangerous situation than I am. So with folded hands I request you, please protect me. This is my request at your feet today. This is the desire of my guru that I remain in such a dangerous situation. By this he will be happy and pleased. Therefore for his pleasure I have accepted this dangerous situation to become guru and accept disciples. I think my guru has sent all of you to me just to give me protection, not to put me in a more dangerous situation. Therefore my request to you is to please protect me. To accept disciples means to keep up the missionary activities that guru has started. We are goṣṭhy-ānandīs, preachers. So we have to keep up the missionary activities that our guru has started. Not that we just occupy the āsana, the seat of guru. No." Darshan, Bhubaneswar, April 1989 Devotee 2: Do you have a letter from Prabhupada saying he wanted you to initiate disciples? Gour Govinda Swami: Yes. He told me here, in that room where Prabhupada stayed in 1977. Prabhupada threw all the devotees out, called me in, and whispered in my ear, “Gour Govinda, this will be one of the best centers in ISKCON. Stay here. You should accept disciples, otherwise how will you manage?” I kept that in my heart until the first GBC meeting when they were selecting gurus. When I told them Prabhupada’s instructions, they wanted proof. So I shared the letter where Prabhupada wrote, “... under your leadership...” Still, they would not permit me. I had to fight. Many Oriyan people complained because I was not initiating. Some went to the Gaudiya Math. Prabhupada was sending his men to me, but they were being disappointed. My beloved spiritual master is sending his men to me. You are Prabhupada’s men. Prabhupada said that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati had sent men to him. Similarly, my guru-mahārāja is sending you to me. One who needs help, my business is to give him help. Yes, my guru-mahārāja has said that thing to me, so I must do my duty. One who is really a needy person, he needs help. So I must render help the best I can.

I beg your pardon maharaj, but this is not at all satisfactory. In this entire Guru tattva series, you repeated about where is the order Prabhupada gave, so this means it should be official, like July 9th 1977 letter, where Prabhupada is stating 11 ritviks on his behalf. So there must have been a clear order or directive, by Prabhupada saying that when he departs, Gaur govind maharaj would be the guru for everyone, like his divine grace. Ordering personally in ears cannot be excepted organizationally, as this was said by all other Guru's as well. Further the quote mentioned above is stating that under the leadership. Doesn't it means that Prabhupada is stating that, now when he departs, that means in his manifested absence, gaur govind maharaj to take leadership position for propagation of the movement. Why then it is speculated again as Guru. Seek for your further guidance. Hare Krishna dandwat pranam.

Further more, couldn't find any of the above recorded conversation, any letter, any order in 1977, etc. Because i have been so long following maharaj, so it has become quite important for me to know the reality, I don't want any betrayal of faith 🙏

Hare Krsna! Srila Gour Govinda Swami Maharaja is definitely after Srila Prabhupada. Did Srila Prabhupada instruct anyone else? I don't know. The real point is that how will YOU know? How will you be able to recognize? And moreover, there are many who may say that Srila Prabhupada ordered them but it may not be true. Then how you will know? So Srila Prabhupada explained in many places what is the process to recognize a bona fide representative of Parampara. I can give you few quotes by Srila Prabhupada: (Class on Nectar Of Devotion, October 1972): … So to find out a bona fide guru is not difficult, provided one is bona fide to search out a guru. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. By the mercy of guru and Kṛṣṇa... Because by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa one gets a bona fide guru, and by the mercy of bona fide guru, one gets Kṛṣṇa. This is the process. When I am actually serious to have connection with Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa is sitting in everyone’s heart. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe ’rjuna tiṣṭhati [Bg. 18.61]. So Kṛṣṇa can understand. We cannot hide anything from Kṛṣṇa. That is not possible. Because Kṛṣṇa is sitting side by side, just like two birds, sitting side by side. One bird is eating the fruit of the tree. Another bird is the witness. That is the Vedic version. So as soon as I become serious to know about Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa can understand, “Now My friend is very serious.” So He will find out a bona fide guru for him. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. By the, by the double mercy... Kṛṣṇa’s mercy, and guru’s mercy. If one is serious, Kṛṣṇa is satisfied: “Now he’s serious about finding out, about knowing Me.” Then Kṛṣṇa gives him direction that “Here is guru, My representative. You take shelter of him and you will get Me.” This is the way. That is explained in this..., that by the grace of Kṛṣṇa, that it is a fortunate person. Fortunate person means he must be sincere, serious to know about Kṛṣṇa. That is fortunate…. So this is the process. By the grace of Kṛṣṇa, if we are sincere and serious, then Kṛṣṇa becomes kind upon us and gives direction: buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi tam. “I give them buddhi-yogam.” Buddhi means intelligence. Easy Journey to Other Planets, ch. 2: Kṛṣṇa reveals Himself from within to one who is serious about God realization. Both Kṛṣṇa and the spiritual master help the sincere soul. The spiritual master is the external manifestation of God, who is situated in everyone’s heart as Supersoul. For one who is very serious about understanding the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Supersoul immediately renders assistance by directing him to a bona fide spiritual master. In this way the spiritual candidate is helped from within and without. So the qualification to recognize is by Krsna's mercy, if you are sincere and serious. This is the only way. So the best way is to pray to Srila Prabhupada for good association and then, when you are inspired to hear from someone, you can judge by the results of association or hearing from these personalities. If their association makes you want to completely surrender to Krsna and give up your independence and false ego - become serious in spiritual life - then that's a good sign to start with.

@@HHMKSMEDIA my Wanting to know krishna has drove me to ask this maharaj, I have read guru tatwa book of your govind swami maharaj and understood how important it is to get a bona fide spiritual master, I am in association with your disciples of mayapur ghat jagannath mandir and getting to know many things and trying to do bhakti maharaj, I would want to know more, I have faith in krishna and I do believe now he will definitely send me a guru so I can know him more, hare krishna

Yes

I heard he left iskcon and started a indipendent organisation........

Baseless criticism. He never left Iskcon and will never leave, although there are many unscrupulous persons who would like it to be true and are creating stories and fictious resolutions to somehow justify their end. Why? Just watch these videos in Guru Tattva Series and you will understand.

Hare Krishna Can this be answered please. If we are speaking about Prabhupada never ordered anyone, then how here it is being considered that Gaur Govind Maharaj was ordered, and he did it further..

@@haridasa8953 Hare Krsna! How do you know that Srila Prabhupada never ordered anyone? Moreover, if you look philosophically or from the point of tattva, he had to order someone, at least one, who is qualified. Otherwise how will the Parampara continue?

Exactly. But a bona fide disciple will never want to become Guru. He is just a follower and servant of his Guru. Just like Srila Prabhupada. He did not become Guru by his own. He was ordered by his spiritual master. Here are a few quotes by Srila Prabhupada on this topic: (Lecture in London, August 3rd, 1973) … “On My order.” That is the crucial point. One does not become spiritual master by his own whims. That is not spiritual master. He must be ordered by superior authority. Then he’s spiritual master. Just like in our case. Our superior authority, our spiritual master, he ordered me .… The only qualification is that I have tried to execute the order of superior authority. That’s all. This is the secret of success. (NOD Lectures in Vrindavan, India, October 31st, 1972) He is self-made guru. Therefore he’s not guru. Self-made guru cannot be guru. He must be authorized by the bona fide guru. Then he’s guru. Bona fide guru means he must be authorized by the superior guru…. He must receive the order from the superior. And the superior must be bona fide. Then he’s bona fide, not self-made.

Maharaja belongs to Iskcon of Srila Prabhupada.

That's a good question. They are deviating from Srila Prabhupada's instructions.

​@@HHMKSMEDIA It is only for English versions. Bengali and Hindi books are the best, not at all changed.