Is Demise SECRETLY In TOTK?!
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@SpongeP
@SpongeP 10 сағат бұрын
I do like this theory, however, I believe that Rauru and Sonia founding Hyrule was just like the New Hyrule of Spirit Tracks: Some sort of cataclysmic event leading to the eventual founding of yet another New Hyrule. This could explain why the Zonai, never before seen deities that are said to come from the heavens, intervened. Without Rauru, a New Hyrule could have the possibility of never being established. This also leaves room for other things that are mentioned in BotW/TotK, such as the existence of Princess Ruto being mentioned on manuscript stones in BotW, Arbiter's grounds still existing, Urbosa mentioning that Calamity Ganon derived from the Gerudo (likely referring to Ganondorf himself), and the existence of many other things from different games such as the Lon Lon Ranch ruins, the existence of the Rito and Koroks since they had evolved from Zora and Kokiri respectively, etc. This could place BotW and TotK far ahead of the other games, making the timelines converge together into one singular linear (for now, anyways) branch.
@EthanMiguelScott
@EthanMiguelScott 2 күн бұрын
Actually, I think you solved one question with another. It seems most likely that the decayed Guardians actually *didn't* disappear, and the ones near Fort Hateno were probably salvaged by Purah and Robbie in order to create the tech that remains.
@SambergerTheories
@SambergerTheories 2 күн бұрын
I don't think that non-monstorous zoras showing up in Echos of Wisdom is evidence against a downfall timeline placement as we've already seen both types of zoras coexist in Oracle of Ages.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'm sorry for the misinformation. I just got hyped up that day seeing the two types coexist with each other. But don't worry! I'm currently working on a video going more in depth on certain details regarding how this game will affect the timeline, and I will make sure to not rush through production like how I did this video.
@anordinarytidepodconsumer4683
@anordinarytidepodconsumer4683 2 күн бұрын
They could make literally EVERY boss its own Lego set there are so many options. I’m not getting my hopes up though
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 күн бұрын
I don't think we will get EVERY boss, but Koloktos from Skyward Sword would be an epic one I think.
@anordinarytidepodconsumer4683
@anordinarytidepodconsumer4683 2 күн бұрын
Yeah def not every boss but I think all of them have potential to work as a Lego set. My pick would be the big bird from Wind Waker
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 күн бұрын
@@anordinarytidepodconsumer4683 ah, the Helmaroch King. Great Choice!
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 3 күн бұрын
So for timeline placement if its fallen timeline as indicated with first impressions then its at some point between the end of Link's awakening and the Zelda II backstory. I can think of two possible points that it could take place first is the sealing of Ganon and dividing of the Triforce second is why the Master sword and Ganon's trident are missing in Zelda I. If its not the fallen timeline then we may have another unmarked timeline split again wouldn't be the first time also wouldn't be the second time. Also that volcano is NOT Death mountain as its in the wrong location Death mountain would be the snowy mountain to the right a LOT of people are making that same mistake. When I saw that volcano tho my first thought was I WAS RIGHT because I've been saying that there was a mountain there for a while and then a new game trailer comes out and BOOM there's a mountain there consistent Zelda map CONFIRMED!
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 3 күн бұрын
I'll have to keep this in mind for my future timeline video I am hoping to work on. For the death mountain scenario, I do know that Death Mountain in A Link to the Past would be the one on the right, but I am also thinking that this isn't exactly the same Hyrule from that game. Most of the areas shown in the trailer didn't look familiar to me after playing A Link to the Past, so I am almost wondering if the volcano might actually be Death Mountain, and the other group of mountains might be something different. Of course, I am completely wrong if this Hyrule is the same from A Link to the Past, but I am trying not to assume that right away.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 3 күн бұрын
@@ganonfan Well a tip for your next timeline video your going to need to rebuild the timeline from the ground up in order to have a descent timeline as the official timeline is wrong. As for the map the cliff at the start is south of the boundaries of A link to the past Hyrule the volcano is also outside those boundaries so your not going to recognize most of the locations from the trailer. Now the reason I'm not 100% positive that this is fallen timeline is the ruins I'll need to do more research into them to know for sure.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 3 күн бұрын
@@darkdagger5237 I actually have rebuilt the timeline a while ago based on my own research, I just haven't presented it on youtube yet. I also need to do a bit more research on the Zonai pillars seen in the trailer, but they will actually help make placing this in my timeline way easier. Thanks for the tip though!
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 3 күн бұрын
@@ganonfan Looking forward to your timeline video then. As for those ruins none of them look Zonai however I do agree that they will be important for figuring out the timeline placement. Its also worth noting that Oracle technically has a timeline split its just not usually worth bringing up but its worth considering here. I say technically because how it effects the timeline as a whole is still unclear.
@probenfetchak8076
@probenfetchak8076 7 күн бұрын
Even better the same map like before but the afterlife which is above and beyond the sky islands, a new kingdom, the underworld where Demise came from, and the same Hyrule kingdom map and the depths all added with new lore, the return of the triforce, Ganondorf being the origin of the calamity to officially confirm that as canon, the three golden goddesses making a physical appearance, the return of Hylia and Demise, and the origin of the Zonai and the true reason why the guardians and divine beasts were built
@carlosamgalaxy
@carlosamgalaxy 7 күн бұрын
TOTK lost a great opportunity to use the triforce. If link had 1 piece, Dragon zelda 1 piece and Ganondorf 1 piece, Link could have defeated Ganondorf and have the full Triforce to wish for Zelda to become human again. It would also explain why Ganondorf was so strong against 7 sages. And Rauru & Sonia turning zelda human made no sense.
@Tru-the-Dreamtraveler
@Tru-the-Dreamtraveler 8 күн бұрын
So the sheekah didnt know the stuff they made would disappear and if the sheekah tech disappear because gannon lost then thats dumb cause he and his calamity powers r under the castle sooooo wouldn't them not disappearing scare ppl like oh hes not dead wth and cause a search other rhan oh tea there gone just because
@PFGFrankly
@PFGFrankly 8 күн бұрын
some shikhia stuff were purpose
@PFGFrankly
@PFGFrankly 8 күн бұрын
repurpose*
@Hehehehehehe425
@Hehehehehehe425 9 күн бұрын
I feel like a set of the calamity Gabon battle arena, or even the demon dragon and light dragon battle, could be an amazing set.
@thesmokinggamer8149
@thesmokinggamer8149 10 күн бұрын
its expensive hell
@Deltabolster
@Deltabolster 10 күн бұрын
Yes he's inside Ganondorf. You can't have an incarnation of his hatred without you know his hatred aka him being there
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 10 күн бұрын
Demise isn't INSIDE Ganondorf, his hatred was only passed on to certain individuals. Demise himself was sealed away, but his curse of hatred is what cause all future Zelda villians, so only the entety of Demises hatred was in Ganondorf, not Demise himself.
@Luigifan305
@Luigifan305 10 күн бұрын
As further evidence, this would explain why Hylia is suddenly an active entity again in BotW and TotK when she wasn't in any other games, literally speaking to Link directly when interacting with her statues, despite seemingly shedding her divinity prior to Skyward Sword. What people don't notice in the ending of SS is that the door leading to the room with the orange crystal is closed when Ghirahim brings Zelda back to the past, but after Link defeats Demise and returns to the temple, the door is open and the crystal is gone. Of course, with Demise defeated early, there would be no need for her to reinforce the seal anymore and the Zelda in there would wake up, but then where did she go? If she just poofed out of existence then the door wouldn't also be open. The only explanation is that she woke up, opened the door herself, and Impa explained what happened, so she left out the back door and hid until Link and the others returned to their own time, in order to avoid coming into contact with the other Zelda and risking some kind of paradox. This leaves her as a "spare" Zelda who's trapped in the past, but knows where the Triforce is hidden and could potentially use it to become Hylia again and continue protecting the land. Furthermore, in this alternate past, the Master Sword and Goddess Sword would both exist simultaneously, which is the only way to explain their coexistence later since the Goddess Sword in TotK is confirmed to be the real deal gifted to you by Hylia herself, and not just a replica like most other legacy weapons. This detail is impossible unless the ending of SS indeed made a new branch.
@SambergerTheories
@SambergerTheories 11 күн бұрын
Great video! One idea I have for a set would be an SNES with A Link to The Past in the same style of the NES set with Super Mario Bros.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 11 күн бұрын
Oh, that would be a really good one!
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 11 күн бұрын
What Zelda Lego Sets would you like to see in the future, and what minifigures would come with that set?
@Zeldanight
@Zeldanight 12 күн бұрын
Actually 14 min 14 sec🤓
@almendratlilkouatl
@almendratlilkouatl 13 күн бұрын
ok
@addy_animates484
@addy_animates484 15 күн бұрын
AYY IM ACTUALLY SO EXCITED FOR THIS VIDEO
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 14 күн бұрын
I can't wait for you guys to see it!
@YerboiKeeevin
@YerboiKeeevin 17 күн бұрын
This theory is too interesting to be a thing, doubt it would happen
@cato3277
@cato3277 17 күн бұрын
Rad, I find the spirits and deities in Zelda to be fascinating so this project is gonna be sick
@igorcosta5482
@igorcosta5482 17 күн бұрын
For me, the secret stone buffed ganondorf is a representation of demises powers. It’s like we are seeing him in front of us.
@browncow5210
@browncow5210 18 күн бұрын
I think the Purah Pad and Sheikah tech at Lookout Landing were simply created based on the old tech. It had no reason to disappear. The decayed guardian is a tougher one, but it could be that Nintendo just left it there as a nod to BotW.
@daniel8181
@daniel8181 19 күн бұрын
Are you kidding me? Someone has a perfectly plausible reason why the new games seem disconnected from everything EXCEPT skyward sword, but he has a fraction of the viewers of these "zelda is dead" goobers? Good luck, my dude.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 18 күн бұрын
You don't need to worry. If I always stay with what I believe in regarding the Zelda series, good people who understand the ENTIRE series will be there to support me. I will always have the "Zelda fans" who hate on the newer game here on the channel, but just relize that they fully don't understand the series and move on with it.
@daniel8181
@daniel8181 18 күн бұрын
@@ganonfan Well you aren't far off, your videos started getting suggested to me, so you're on the path to growth!
@JaidynReiman
@JaidynReiman 2 күн бұрын
"perfectly plausible reason" The reason why Hylia suddenly has a resurgence in BOTW/TOTK and doesn't appear in any other games.... Is because Hylia didn't exist in the lore prior to Skyward Sword. Like this should just be blatantly obvious. Hylia doesn't exist in other games because the series creators didn't create Hylia as a concept yet. It has nothing to do with even more "alternate timeline" theories. And I have indeed heard this Demise timeline split as well. Its still ridiculous IMO.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 күн бұрын
@@JaidynReiman Lets see, where to begin. Sure, there wasn't Hylia until 2011, but once Skyward Sword came out, the entire series got lore put together in Hyrule Historia, one of the best books that exist! We had A Link Between Worlds and Triforce Heroes come out AFTER Skyward Sword, and they didn't feature the Goddess Hylia, so making the point that "Hylia is only in BOTW/TOTK because she was only recently established" is baloney! Even look at the upcoming Echoes of Wisdom: It doesn't look like Hylia is going to be featured in it. After the developers created Hylia, they created the lore of the series to INCORPORATE her during the era of creation that predates all games, and, oh wait...SHE REINCARNATED INTO THE FIRST PRINCESS ZELDA WHO IS THE ANCESTOR OF JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER ZELDA IN THE ENTIRE SERIES WHO PASSED DOWN HER SACRED POWERS!!! So in a way, Hylia is established in all other Zelda games according to the series lore. Don't judge concepts only off of the order of game releases, because the lore states that Hylia does in fact exist in games other than the most recent ones and Skyward Sword (in a way). And lastly, no timeline theory is ridiculous when clear evidence is shown. Do they have their flaws? Yes, but they shouldn't be downgraded right away. That is part of what I wanted to say, but I think I have proven my point by now!
@daniel8181
@daniel8181 2 күн бұрын
@@JaidynReiman I mean, to put what brotherman said in brief: How is that even relevant? Before the historia's release people always complained about how in alttp "the master sword sleeps FOREVER" but then shows up again several times. It really is silly to worry about this stuff.
@hinami-akane7074
@hinami-akane7074 22 күн бұрын
I really hate this explanation. Why should the goddes want that the technology just disapear's, if it could serve more than just the purpose of defeating ganon? It was so much work to get this far to invent this technology and it could help the people of hyrule so much and she just "welp, you had your fun, didn't you?" Now I won't let you keep it and I didn't even help coming up with it. Stupid move Hylia, I never thought I'd insult her.... oh man😅
@R.A.M_Games
@R.A.M_Games 9 күн бұрын
Because the divine beast weren’t created by the goddess, they were created by ancient Sheikah. The divine beast, guardians, and shrines are all ancient Sheikah technology that would have no purpose in modern times. The skyview towers and the purse pad is actually are first glimpse into modern Sheikah since the split between the yiga and Sheikah
@hinami-akane7074
@hinami-akane7074 9 күн бұрын
@@R.A.M_Games You know that the Sheikah monks that created the technology were given this task and purpose by the Goddes herself! Do you!? And the modern Sheikah would then pursue their own kind of technology by themselfs, maybe against the goddesses plan even, we know She wouldn't really do anything against that, but that would be still the case!
@hinami-akane7074
@hinami-akane7074 9 күн бұрын
@@R.A.M_Games And you could use Sheikah technology in nearly all aspects of modern times.
@R.A.M_Games
@R.A.M_Games 8 күн бұрын
@@hinami-akane7074 the monks been given a task by the goddess Hylia to create the shrines still doesn’t disprove that the tech itself is made from ancient Sheikah. And none of the present day Sheikah in BOTW had the ability to use the ancient tech. Even the Sheikah slate you’re given in game is over 100 years old and derived from ancient Sheikah tech. Everything in TOTK is modern Sheikah tech built by purah herself and the help with the Hudson construction company
@hinami-akane7074
@hinami-akane7074 8 күн бұрын
@@R.A.M_Games I know all that and I never said Hylia build the technology! She gave the monks their purpose and I think she gave them the order to let it disapear/ be destroyed after the calamity is gone! Hylia didn't build the tech and I never said she did!
@TchaikovskyListener
@TchaikovskyListener 22 күн бұрын
ToTK FUKKED UP the Zelda timeline. Gdamn Bamophet bs.
@daniel8181
@daniel8181 19 күн бұрын
Whinging baby, go play a series that gives a shit.
@JaidynReiman
@JaidynReiman 2 күн бұрын
Every new Zelda game fucks up the Zelda timeline.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 күн бұрын
We all need to stop assuming that the timeline is messed up by Tears of the Kingdom. The Zelda team CARES about the lore, and are giving us puzzle pieces to help us figure out the timeline. I have spoken with a few larger Zelda content creators, and they agree that behind the scenes of Nintendo, the timeline is being updated. And also, are you all going to start complaining about how "Echoes of Wisdom is going to mess up the timeline"? If anything, based on what we have seen in the trailer, this new game is going to explain what happened to the timeline because the rifts have caused the 3 timeline branches to collide with each other (why we see both versions of zora, and two versions of Death Mountain).
@daniel8181
@daniel8181 2 күн бұрын
@@ganonfan I think the team cares about lore like a pirate cares about the pirate's code. "Its more a guideline" But thats exactly why there is no point in getting upset about rito and zora in the same place, the master sword "sleeping forever", etc
@addy_animates484
@addy_animates484 22 күн бұрын
Am I unhealthily binging all of your videos? Uhm... yes. Will I keep doing it? Yes
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 22 күн бұрын
Its funny watching my really old videos with the stupid 30 second intro I made. My videos have definitely improved since last year, but they are still fun to re-watch for me to reflect on my work.
@phonotical
@phonotical 22 күн бұрын
Falls to her death? She didn't die You'd still have all your weapons and either continue going down the cave and defeating ganon yet again, or they'd just go away and try again later, hell, ganon doesn't even try getting out or doing anything until you go down there again, he's still trapped
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 22 күн бұрын
The only two events I explained was the two getting brought to the sky and the two being sent to the past. I'm not sure where you got it that I said Zelda fell to her death.
@phonotical
@phonotical 22 күн бұрын
@@ganonfan you said it right at the beginning of the video, maybe watch the drivel you produce
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 21 күн бұрын
@@phonotical I watch my videos so many times over and over while editing, and I said in exact quote from the video "Zelda falls into the chasm and get sent to the past BEFORE falling to her death".
@akselsmith8710
@akselsmith8710 23 күн бұрын
I think decayed sheikah tech didn't in fact dissappear, it eas just all repurposed to build the new skyview towers and the purah pad and so on
@Tjrmalveillant
@Tjrmalveillant 23 күн бұрын
It’s not a bad video, and it’s a definitely better option than « convergence of timeline 🤓 » KZbinrs like to talk about without ever proving it. My issue is that it’s just basically a reboot timeline. So it’s not really a new solution, otherwise kinda good.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 25 күн бұрын
This honestly does not classify as a proper power comparison and needs to be redone. There needs to be a way of measuring there stats and abilities compared to each other this is something you did well with in the other videos. Nothing becomes dynamic until it becomes specific find stats that are shared across the different Zeldas that are traits that define there power.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 25 күн бұрын
I agree with this, and I learned from this video and made the other 2 videos well done. Despite my lack of stats, I still think that the era of Wild Zelda is the strongest out of all of them.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 24 күн бұрын
@@ganonfan Even if the outcome is the same its important for the series to redo this one because if I had watched this one first I wouldn't have watched the other two.