Used to live in Kirkcudbright and planning to move back soon. It's such a beautiful country up there. Great video lads.
@scottlazar637617 күн бұрын
Awesome! Kudos to you guy for doing it on an tandem. Loved the vid and all the tips. Will be doing the route very shorty and you've given me some nice tips :)
@RidingBicycles16 күн бұрын
@@scottlazar6376 Thank you 🙏🏽 we are currently doing on the tandem the GDMBR from Banff to Ferne and then The BC Trail from Ferne to Vancouver. When we get back I will do a vid on that 👍🏽 good luck with your trip ✌🏽
@EvilEighty822 күн бұрын
TUNE!!!
@kevindean9613Ай бұрын
I have 2 bikes with a Rohloff & one With a pinion , For me I like the pinion maybe because of the belt drive & it can be submerged in water & the Rohloff can't according to them .
@RidingBicyclesАй бұрын
@@kevindean9613 I fully submerged my Rohloff a few times in rivers with no ‘known’ issues. I think if you do end up submerging it I would do an oil change as soon as reasonably possible afterwards.
@kevindean9613Ай бұрын
@@RidingBicycles I agree , I haven't used either of the Rohloff bikes for a couple of years now , I've had the Rohloff slip gears a couple of times ,They are both very clever systems but for me the belt drive ,bike balance ,gear action & being able to swap out wheels wins .Pinion even remind me when to change oil .The electric gear change looks very cool .
@wilhelmmatthee6675Ай бұрын
Great bike! Interested in buying one. Have you run 700c wheels on it and if so what size?
@RidingBicyclesАй бұрын
@@wilhelmmatthee6675 Sorry can’t help you with that, I have only run 29er 2.2 ish or 27.5 by 3”.
@allesdurchprobiertАй бұрын
What a beauty! If I had the cash I'd buy it right now. One day I'll have it.
@DIY-DaddyOАй бұрын
I do like the idea of the pinion.
@jagabogo2 ай бұрын
absolutely incomprehensible... nobody buys a robust steel bike and then discusses every gram of weight that can be saved by using carbon parts, it just makes absolutely no sense
@koalalala39392 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!❤
@carerra9112 ай бұрын
Hiya, sorry if I have missed this in the video, what size is this and how tall are you? thanks
@RidingBicycles2 ай бұрын
Hi, I am 171cm tall (5ft 7”) I went with Salsas size guide and got a small. The bike feels great, but I think I should have gone for a medium because the very long seat post is on its limit and then some.
@RidingBicycles2 ай бұрын
To add to that I don’t think I have long legs, my inseam from crotch to floor is 81cm
@DUCzillaMonster2 ай бұрын
15 minutes longer on 7 miles with the rohloff, how come??
@RidingBicycles2 ай бұрын
Heavy touring/mtb bike instead of a road bike on a very hilly commute which is Everest every 20 work days.
@DUCzillaMonster2 ай бұрын
@@RidingBicycles I don't understand what you mean?
@RidingBicycles2 ай бұрын
@@DUCzillaMonster The rohloff is on a heavier off road touring bike. An off road touring bike is always going to be slower on steep up hill tarmac roads than the light road bike I am comparing it to.
@DUCzillaMonster2 ай бұрын
@@RidingBicycles ok, just about the weight of the hub, i should see, its the hub against my 3 to 7 derailleur setting now, not that much of a difference in guess, belt driven
@RidingBicycles2 ай бұрын
@DUCzillaMonster When you take into account the weight of the front and rear mech and the the cassette and chain you might be taking the Rohloff is 400 to 500 grams heavier. Check this article out for the facts about Rohloff and Pinion. www.cyclingabout.com/weight-difference-between-derailleur-pinion-rohloff-bikes/
@jonathonsilbaugh28332 ай бұрын
I do have one problem with the twist shifter as I don't like resting my hand on it for any length of time. I did solve this by installing a Jones h-loop handle bar with lots of grip real estate so I can slide my hands completely on to the chonky grips when I'm not actively shifting.
@user-ff3wf8gu7c2 ай бұрын
Hi mate where was the location of the 1st camp spot please pal
@RidingBicycles2 ай бұрын
Hi, if you mean where we camped on the beach it was here. maps.app.goo.gl/fF9UYroi5Zk6uApd7?g_st=ic
@Ash-vf2gd2 ай бұрын
Nice man! I have those same tires!
@herbyhannan16753 ай бұрын
Way too much money
@masonday84503 ай бұрын
How fast does it go ?
@RidingBicycles3 ай бұрын
It could go very fast. I would say approximately 20-30mph on a flat depending on wind conditions. BUT I want to add I was riding this on private roads. These powerful kits are illegal on public roads and I do not condoned the use in public spaces as they are giving all cyclists a bad reputation. If you are after a kit for public use make sure it has required wattage and speed limit and it can’t be activated with a trigger throttle, it needs to be pedal assist.
@robertdewar17523 ай бұрын
How did that fat rear tyre work out for you? I thought it would have been too fat for that frame.
@RidingBicycles3 ай бұрын
There is plenty of room in the Sherpa frames for fatties. They are specd on the website to take up to 3” for 650b and 2.5” for 29ers.
@robertdewar17523 ай бұрын
@@RidingBicycles That's great to know! I just bought a second hand one. I assumed the 3" tyres you put on were on 29s, but i'm an idiot. Regards.
@juststuff32673 ай бұрын
I have the Bear Valley 1995 in my stable, all original. I plan to strip it down this summer to keep it going until my grandson grows into.
@RidingBicycles3 ай бұрын
Sweet. Nice bike. My brother had one of those. Still plenty of use to be had in the bike. 90’s mtb bikes make great touring bikes too.
@chuckwalla29673 ай бұрын
So this setup is better than a mountain bike?
@RidingBicycles3 ай бұрын
Depends on your terrain. If I was mainly tackling single track and rough terrain I would like flat bars. Suspension optional as it depends how fast I would want to go. All down to terrain, luggage, desired speed over said terrain, confidence and personal preferences
@davehoover88533 ай бұрын
Should have asked this in my last post! Can you compare this model with your Outback? That would be great!
@RidingBicycles3 ай бұрын
The Outback is a mountain bike at heart if you ride mainly single track or rougher stuff then the Outback would be the better option. If you are planning to ride mixed surfaces and a little bit of the rougher stuff then the Scrambler could be the better option. The Outback is designed to take some abuse and heavy loads so it is not light. Mine came in at about 16kg with a sus fork and about 14 - 15kg with the carbon. The gear range though helps you get over anything, it would impact your speed though, if speed is an issue for you then either bike might not be the best option and both are made for enduring long miles carrying loads without maintenance issues.
@davehoover88533 ай бұрын
Thank you for a very enjoyable and informative review. Great views, superb bike and nice discussion. Now I need to go look at their site!
@RidingBicycles3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽
@thecutrip3 ай бұрын
Beautiful. I came to eye-bang the crank and ring, but I liked your explanation of rear mech set-up with friction/indexing, for newbies. I have a question, so I hope you're still getting notifications for comments. How did the 46 cassette and long cage mech handle your 2x combo? What was the tooth step on the chainset? Those 11 speed series cassettes were specced as 42 max sprocket for 2x, and the 46 was specced for 1x only, and that was with a 10T step at the front, obviously for the limitations of the rear mech. Of course the manufacturer has to spec for optimal shifting, so in real-world applications it can work outside of spec. Back in the day of MTB 3x we sometimes had to run a chain length that couldn't be cross-chained big to big, to get good tension in the smaller rings. That was early 90s before the long cage derailleurs solved the problem. Did your chain fit your big ring and the 46, and if it did, how far down the cassette could you cross-chain small to small, before the rear mech and chain went limp, if that even happened? Cheers.
@RidingBicycles3 ай бұрын
Hi, I don’t have that frame anymore, it was a lovely frame and I regret selling it. Well I regret selling every single bike I have ever owned!!!! But that would mean I would need a space for about 150 which I don’t have. I am building up a Brothers Cycles Mr Wooden with downtube friction shifters at the moment. That will have a Velo Orange 28/46 crank and a 11-36 cassette, I think that will work really sweet. As regards to the set up on the Black Mountain. It could handle big/big without any issues and small/small did not cause the chain to sag. But I did find that the chain did drop a couple of times when moving on to the small chainring as the rear mech would quick take up the slack. The only reason I kept the 46t cassette on was because that is what I had when I was using one friction shifter to use it as a 1x11. I can’t honestly remember the chainring sizes on the 2x setup I think it was something like 28/44.
@thecutrip3 ай бұрын
@@RidingBicycles Thanks, good stuff. I went and googled the Velo Orange to see how a granny 28 can go with a 44, and recognised it from a Path Less Pedaled video I've yet to fully watch. I've been side tracked into researching 2x options, for MTB crossover into skinny tyred riding and also MTB 'bikepacking' touring. It was cool seeing your field review of the White cranks, out on dirt, and it's very affirming to have you tell that you're choosing a 28/44 chainset. That's the synchronicity I'm famous for! I'm writing a lot about 2x 'MTB' cranksets with a 14t step. The 22/36 was (is?) a favourite combo for many like myself, but 10t step became some kind of new standard spec. But Shimano have now adopted 14t step in their new Cues line-up so it can bridge from MTB to what they call 'trekking' and 'urban' bikes. So the 14t step front mechs are the missing link for finding solutions for new builds of rigs with boost spaced rear ends and wide chainlines. The 14t step on granny/big 2x BCD cranksets gives the options to pair with grannies 22, 24, 26 and 28. So I've been saying how 28/42 is surely something that has demand from 'gravel' type riders and loaded tourers. And here you are! Bravo. I'm keen to see some video of 12 speed rear ends being combined and working with 11/10 speed front 2x sets. That gives guys like you, cranking the big gears on skinny tyres, that 10 at the rear. But a 12 speed build to try something largely untested is a big deal, and not necessary with your 28/44 range. It will be good to see those 16t step downshifts tested and what rear mech and 11-36 cassette you use. Road or mountain and length of cage on the rear mech. Like you say in this video, friction shifting is the key to opening up possibilities with the elimination of index pull ratio incompatibilities, so road and MTB groups can be mixed. (Like 12 speed Microshift thumbies on the wishlist.) So that's back to what I really liked about this vid, and a good place to say good luck and best wishes with the new build and all. Thanks again. Das Steel.
@TorstenLif4 ай бұрын
Haltwhistle? I passed there on a tour in 1988 but didn't know that it's the centre of Britain. In Sweden there are two locations both claiming to be the centre and the tiny village where I grew up is located pretty much halfway between them. So does that make it the average centre? 😂
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
I think it is the same there, they need to try and cling on to something to get the tourists excited :) :)
@ouilegdsart4 ай бұрын
It's a shame the mounts costs more than just getting a new pair of shifters.
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
And they don’t make them anymore. But I think other brands may do. Eg Velo Orange, dia compe etc.
@danielszucs2674 ай бұрын
It's 2 years now... have you found a alu/plastic box for travelling with the belt? I am also searching...
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
I just fold up as per Gates instructions and then just put in a plastic bag and it works fine. Just be conscious of where you put it in your bags so not to twist it. I have a bag that is just for tools and it sits in there fine as it is a bag that hopefully you never need to go into to
@danielcarlier91434 ай бұрын
Very very nice bikes, my dream ones! Thank you for sharing. Question : these bikes are silent, so what we hear when you ride them offroad is coming from the metal mudguards ?
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
Yep
@user-hz7vk1io4m4 ай бұрын
What brand belt are you using? I’m looking for a cheaper option
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
Gates
@stevegreenwood81684 ай бұрын
That's some hill up to Widdop. Well done regardless if you rode or pushed. Welcome to Yorkshire 🏵.
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
Sure is! Great ride!
@adrianward4834 ай бұрын
Are you going east-west or west-east across Canada?
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
East west - Banff to Vancouver off road 👍🏽
@martsmith634 ай бұрын
Great film, what time of year was it and where was the campsite please? Im doing it this year end of August.
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
Hi the campsite in the thumbnail is closed at the moment. But if you look at this map with the points of interest turned on I have put on some of the accommodation I am aware of. ridewithgps.com/routes/45931023?privacy_code=of0S4oyh3CGbm4yygLbnJWKhMruiBWVn
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
Oh and the time of year would have been when the video was uploaded. Cheers
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
March 2023 the ride was done
@user-hz7vk1io4m5 ай бұрын
Where can I buy the belt stay piece?
@RidingBicycles4 ай бұрын
Just type in Gates Belt Snubber. There are some that connect on the derailleur hanger and some on the axle etc so get the one that works for your set up. You need to make sure the snubber does not touch the belt. You leave a little gap of a couple of millimetres. This manual has a page all about snubber set up and which one you need. www.gatescarbondrive.com/~/media/files/gcd/oemfactoryresources/gates-carbon-drive-rohloff-manual-en.pdf?la=en Here is a link to one of the examples. www.sjscycles.co.uk/gear-spares/gates-carbon-drive-rdm-snubber/
@Tag-Traeumer5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't buy it: The name milled on the outside of the crank arms poses a risk of breakage, because aluminum is very susceptible to notch effects and the outside is under tensile stress.
@RidingBicycles5 ай бұрын
I think White Industries has been real world tested for many many years they have a rock solid reputation 👍🏽
@bakerk5030Ай бұрын
in my opinion the weaknesses of aluminum failing from small manipulations are highly exaggerated online
@kevindean96135 ай бұрын
I've been reading up on carbon forks & I can't find any manufacturer that recommends more the 50mm spacer stack height ?
@sebastianbielawski4226 ай бұрын
Hi, can you tell me how tall you are and what size of frame it is?
@RogueAesthetica6 ай бұрын
This is my dream bike and I'm saving up to buy one. Quite expensive for me but I think it will be worth it to have if it will last me years.
@RidingBicycles6 ай бұрын
It is a very nice bike that will last many year’s without much maintenance
@RogueAesthetica6 ай бұрын
Why arent there any city commuting bikes with a pinion gear box?
@RidingBicycles6 ай бұрын
There are loads. Have a look at Nua, Tout Terrain, Pilot, rennstahl-bikes, basically nearly every brand that does Pinion will have a commuting bike in their range. Have a look at the list of brands on the pinion site there are hundreds of brands that now use Pinion.
@RogueAesthetica6 ай бұрын
@@RidingBicycles thanks. I'll check it out today
@ian_pedalz6 ай бұрын
After 2 years, Any problems with the cinq paddle shifters?
@grigio87887 ай бұрын
I am very interested in this bike. How does it behave on asphalt roads? The confort is good? I'm searching a multi-purpose bike with Pinion C1.12 gearbox and belt. With Outback I will go with 29 2" or 2.25" semi-slick tires for road journey and with big 27.5 2.6" for off-road focused journey. I'm undecided between this model and the Gravel model: Tout Terrain Scrambler Explore GT2. Thanks in advance.
@yoghurtlidlicker7 ай бұрын
I love my single speed belt drive bike! I have a Rohloff one as well. I'm not in a rush, just a pleasure to ride.
@theGEOcycle7 ай бұрын
Loved watching this. Did most of the Tiso Overland 500 last year, and a, planning to do this with a mate this May. “The Lecht” is something else, and am personally looking forward to getting out on The Fungal Road! Cheers!
@theaviationkid13097 ай бұрын
Didn't ask
@SolarizeYourLife7 ай бұрын
Sadly, with pinion, you can not change out the gearbox with the new MGU...I think that's a big mistake, for everyone...
@SolarizeYourLife7 ай бұрын
You dont have high enough gearing to speed with the fast bikes with a pinion??? What about changing the belt cogs, chainring bigger and rear cog smaller...
@RidingBicycles7 ай бұрын
The style of bike would mean I don’t speed with fast bikes. This is a heavy duty expedition touring machine. Perfect for fully loaded off road tours, speedy is not a strong point of this setup.
@sibenikkk7 ай бұрын
could this be setup so that you can shift from the hoods?
@RidingBicycles7 ай бұрын
Not that I am aware of. Bar end shifters work really well from the drops.
@psclassy11237 ай бұрын
Did the wife freak out when she saw the bike come in the house. Probably understood when she saw how nice the cranks were.
@RidingBicycles7 ай бұрын
Always a delicate topic. I try to be a very good boy for a few days before I have the conversation.
@t-bonet-bone7138 ай бұрын
With all those bikes, you must be single.
@t-bonet-bone7138 ай бұрын
I had a Schwann bike with shifters like that. I was so happy to get rid of it!! Had it for 40 years. I never want to go back to derailers ever again. Never. 40 years of noise, jumping chain, etc matter how many times I tuned up or adjusted it.
@orchardwood86508 ай бұрын
Hi, I have a question. Who did you use for the powder coating?
@RidingBicycles8 ай бұрын
www.crimblepowdercoating.co.uk
@MrAnon-20248 ай бұрын
Fantastic achievement and a big well done to all involved. What a great experience for the kids. I wish I could have done something like this when I was at school. Brilliant 👍