Im torn between goku black/zamasu being two best decks in format. I sort of think it dependa if zamasu lands into late game or not. However, i think you have a great takes on this. Yellow is more relevant and stronfer than people realize
@TomTucker72622 күн бұрын
Put time stamps please
@dawchii28 күн бұрын
Why have a tier list video without a tier page to display lol
@tcgdiscussions241328 күн бұрын
Because I have zero editing experience besides making a thumbnail what it is. 😂
@achillesv8980Ай бұрын
Be safe brother and enjoy dude make the best of it! Now you aren’t a boot lol jk man. Play the sim stick to just OP
@RisingPhoenixOdysseySSGАй бұрын
Np. Stay safe on your deployment.
@RedefineGamerАй бұрын
Sorry to see you go. Hopefully everything works out
@xcean4109Ай бұрын
Gero’s lab while fun, puts you back a whole turn early game. Set 2 I’ve all but dropped it out of my deck.
@sean567Ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for your OP video for EB01. Hope you’ve been well!!! Going to give Enel a go for the first time in OP07 thanks for this.
@egonmon111Ай бұрын
Eb1 shirahoshi effect only applies when she is KOed BY EFFECTS
@tcgdiscussions2413Ай бұрын
Yes did I state otherwise?
@tcgdiscussions2413Ай бұрын
I didn’t clarify enough but good catch. I spoke about it in reference to removal.
@egonmon111Ай бұрын
Ah ok, i said it because at the beggining i thought it also applied when blocking
@victormanueliturriagap.39202 ай бұрын
Nice video! Can you show some gameplays?
@Ducethedragon2 ай бұрын
Love the List! I’ve been running something very similar but I was running 3 Top stages instead of the Shin. The Shin looks very cool, I might have to try it out at locals.
@tcgdiscussions24132 ай бұрын
It’s way stronger than TOP in my opinion. Like putting it down on turn two with energy and making it 30k crit is nasty. Also it’s 30k on awaken, and better yet 10k combo.
@HernanRC19942 ай бұрын
0:00 intro 3:40 deck profile 34:22 matchups and combos
@tcgdiscussions24132 ай бұрын
Thank you, I should start time stamping stuff lol
@EZE17002 ай бұрын
Any update on the deck build how’s it been running for you since first uploading this?
@tcgdiscussions24132 ай бұрын
I will be bringing that shortly actually. I need to pick up a few more cards
@Pistons03042 ай бұрын
What sleaves are you using for this deck? They look really good
@tcgdiscussions24132 ай бұрын
Batman Mat Sleeves
@Pistons03042 ай бұрын
@@tcgdiscussions2413 thanks for the reply, is the brand dragon shield or something else?
@yourbedsidelotion13582 ай бұрын
Super informative video! Just asking, I feel like I am struggling a lot vs the green decks, especially Uta and Yamato. Any advice and what I could be doing to win vs these matchups?
@razzko50672 ай бұрын
Like the list very much! I opt in two ceberus, because my locals are very Yamato and Katakuri heavy and its insane how much value the doggy has in this match ups! Sadly thats his only use. I will go on with Gecko since I kinda burned out of Saka. Black's just at a really nice spot right now! Thanks for your list and all the explanations :) Hopefully Smoker will have a comeback sometime! Loved the first time black came into this game.
@sean5673 ай бұрын
List is cleaaaan. Going to give this a go at my next locals thanks. Also nice shiny cardboard heh
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
I owe everyone at my locals a Nod. I have been a black player since this game and I found each other. I absolutely love cost reduction into removal. My locals stepped up and put me into a position to get me this deck, max rarity. I owe them everything. That shiney cardboard is as much there as it is mine.
@k12bn3 ай бұрын
Update?
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
There will not be for this. I am not longer playing and supporting Masters. I apologize. :)
@RemixSoju3 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I learned a lot wanting to main gecko.
@Ikantsleep3 ай бұрын
What made you take out brooks?
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
Brook just ended up taking all of my 6 Don when Sabo or Borsalino or playing a card from the trash and diving up my don was better.
@16bitbump123 ай бұрын
Do we treat R/P Law matchups just like a Zoro matchup?
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
Yes but with a high control focus on clearing their board. Reiju plus sacchi n penguin will hurt a lot. Starving their resources and swarming the board to answer their board is key. If you can remove their cards before they get attack value, it will be worth it, and you eventually win. The matchup is Hard if the law player is good.
@dereklorenz78023 ай бұрын
I have 3 Goku SCR. If i built this deck, do you think finding room for the 3rd be possible?
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
Yes. You’d have to make some changes. I’ll show the alterations later I’m a future deck profile. But honestly the deck only needs 2
@moonbreon3 ай бұрын
I built a gecko moria deck, i think this is the one i will use in first major tournaments initially. Combos and play are fun, just knowing when to apply them correctly. I find often when testing to run out of cards from hand quite fast (because of leader ability or if the opponent uses the starve strategy either directly or indirectly like only hitting at your characters (e.g. Perona)). It would be great to hear the match up especially against yellow (Yamato, Enel, Katakuri) or green (Perona)
@trashmutant88013 ай бұрын
love your videos, i find you to be one of the most informative people for this game honestly, got moria put together myself struggling to decide if i want rebecca in the deck or not since she can retrieve brook from trash if necessary lol. look forward to more updates on this deck from you.
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciate it. There are some things a buddy of mine and I are testing out. I’ll let you know!
@jeremybr27143 ай бұрын
Very sick list man. Def going to try this out myself🙏🏾
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
There are a couple things I’d update about the list, but give it a shot for sure! :)
@mikrowaive18653 ай бұрын
@@tcgdiscussions2413 What would you update? I love Beerus, and I'm just combing through places trying to find different ideas for the deck!
@xscriblez68243 ай бұрын
Did you play any green broly?
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
Gohan only
@thadeusted64173 ай бұрын
How do u play against yellow, red and blue? Whats the game plan generally? Do i awaken asap?
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
Frost and awaken as self awaken your cards allow. Take damage and don’t overcommit early.
@romansalud56694 ай бұрын
the new saka leader opens desing space for discard value navy cards. a 1/1000 coby blocker that can be played when discarted becomes a more realistic card now with the new saka.
@SlowriderFXDL4 ай бұрын
So you want like 5 leaders or so to be banned, AHAHAHAHAHAHHA WTF MAN ????
@krimbokills394 ай бұрын
I’m playing a similar deck with chopper and more kaidos, if you have a zoro, you can kaido, lose 5 don, have 1 if at 10 or use Pluffy skill to get 1, swing with zoro, chopper and you only went down 3 don and next turn you can kaido again. I run a lot more strawhats in my deck.
@The_Sniffygull4 ай бұрын
Great video my brother. Very in line with my own views. Really appreciate you talking about Leader bans. Too many people are in the mindset that they shouldn't ban leaders, but man, some of them are definitely overtuned. Kata, Saka, Enel, Zoro, Uta are all way too good.
@ov5o34 ай бұрын
How important is the SRC Goku? I want to run a red deck, specifically Beerus but only really missing that card. Also how do you feel about the celebrations promo 2 cost Goku in this deck. KO’s cards under 10k power. Have what I need to build green but red sounds cooler to me. Also play Red in OP
@tcgdiscussions24133 ай бұрын
SCR at 2 only. Goku is near but bad due to no combo. It’s a legendary problem in red. This build focuses on reducing that problem and maximum resource denial.
@sean5674 ай бұрын
Without houndsblaze how does Saka deal with Magellan or Perospero on curve? It’s going to be so painful… I don’t understand the need for the bans because like you said a leader is overhyped and there’s high representation due to that. The meta seems really healthy. Anyways appreciate your thoughts as always brother, super insightful.
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
I know. It’s really dumb. My hope is we get set 6 no hits and the post worlds hits are for OCG only and we will eventually follow suit
@romansalud56694 ай бұрын
on the 10lin argument: maybe yellow doesnt have to be able to deal with every single card, maybe a 8kid and solid strategy should be enough to win a game and droping multiple 10lins is a shitty way cheap out an undeserved win. i dunno maybe. otherwise katakusi just doesnt have counters in the meta and a cheats every other leader an even color.
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
I mean it does depend. Multiple 10 lins can feel like cheating. It’s the leader coupled with her that’s kinda a problem for me. But Kid I won’t agree is weaker than her. He just warps the game. And Kata lost Asia Nats to UTA going to zero sitting behind the kid. It was stupid and every game I play it that it isn’t outed it’s a problem.
@RisingPhoenixOdysseySSG4 ай бұрын
Nice. Congratulations 👏! while everyone winning with green. You go ahead and win with red.
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
Bro it felt so good to win with Beerus in a room where 70% was playing Gohan. lol
@instincts81774 ай бұрын
I only have 4 charlotte crackers and I’m trying to finish my Enel deck but I also have a belo Betty deck do you think I should more to one than the other or split?
@Fronk.4 ай бұрын
the hit to green is because they want other decks in green to shine after the hits on other colors. if this list hit without the gohan errata green gohan stood to be the top deck again like it was last set and no other green deck comes close. now if they were to print another valid green deck its not immediately outclassed by gohan. and they didnt hit trunksgeta at the last worlds it won because it wasnt the problem deck that worlds was crimson dominate 8 decks 4 crimson 4 decks made to beat crimson
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
It still won worlds. It doesn’t matter at all that there was another problem. Besides not only did it beat that problem. Crimson as a deck was 3 months old in that iteration and time of the deck. Trunksgeta had had several wins, tops for multiple formats and won worlds. The deck shoulda been axed on the spot.
@Fronk.4 ай бұрын
@@tcgdiscussions2413 if you look at the data from that time crimson was the deck with overwhelming win percentage
@RisingPhoenixOdysseySSG4 ай бұрын
Np . Keep moving forward. 3 things to say. Its been a ride, It'll get there (other games), tragic ends fuels new beginnings.
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
Thanks man! You’ve been one of my biggest supporters on my channel! Are you going to cover fusion world?
@RisingPhoenixOdysseySSG4 ай бұрын
@@tcgdiscussions2413 Not sure yet. Waiting on the client. Around my way a lot of new people is playing it for sure tho and my masters guys I play with still 85/15 (no/yes) on it, but will more than likely do some split content on it , in the comparison since to start off if anything and first impressions, because got a handful of people scorn by the abrupt announcement... but I will overall save any deep analysis of it until the end of the year where we have more numbers to follow.
@Kc2Crazy4 ай бұрын
I was playing at locals today and I drew 5 2ks after the mulligan lol 😅 (Edit: I was playing with Katakuri, but still...)
@moonbreon4 ай бұрын
great video!
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@moonbreon4 ай бұрын
@@tcgdiscussions2413 In particularly I liked advises on critical game play and strategy on Perona don8, do not swing with any characters to play around a potential 10c doffy or when Uta(film) is at 7/8 don , next turn potential kid... one need to be ready to deal with (e.g. with Gecko have a ice age and gecko moria)... or how to deal with bege (go wide and maybe hitting one life at a time and ready to deal with any triggers) : Would be great to explore key strategical game play (theory + sim to demonstrate): I m asking some work from 🙂 ... see it as a suggestion, it could also be commenting on real time game play .
@The_Sniffygull4 ай бұрын
Definitely agree that the Meta as it is doesn't really need bans, or more that the bans that will be made are likely to be excessive. Way I see it is that backlist isn't about balance so much as it is a tool to improve player experience and drive new sales. Competive players will play whatever they need to to win, it's the casual players who lose to their third Saka at locals who the banlist benefits. I'm real interested to see how heavy or lite handed Bandai is and if this actually sticks. Great vid.
@Jajanken0x04 ай бұрын
Why don’t you run 3c jack instead of zorojuro? Its an on play free don with a discard instead of waiting til the next turn which against sakazuki zoro wont even get a chance to activate effect
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
Facts but I just don’t play it. It’s for matches where there isn’t high removal.
@Jay17.4 ай бұрын
IMO, they should keep boat and cabiji banned. Restrict Rebecca to 1. Ban Bege (not a healthy card) Ban 10c big mom the new 10c ace will replace as the new boss monster for yellow but at least it’s not searchable.
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
I think that none of those things should happen. I’d rather see Katakuri the leader banned then see big mom go. lol other big mom pirates decks and future ones will need her.
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
Disregard my Mihawk Comment. I was incorrect :)
@hhh195594 ай бұрын
Uta won nationals with eb. Which is another 2k and a 2c blocker
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
Yes this I know.
@hhh195594 ай бұрын
Mhawk is not searchable and there is no combo involving him with 7 drop Luffy…. But yeah uta broken af lmao
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
I thought the mihawk is film?
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
I see my friend was describing to me a combo involving him. I guess it’s not right. Huh. Lol
@tcgdiscussions24134 ай бұрын
7 Luffy into law, into Mihawk , into brook, into Nami or ussop or Uta. For a total 19. You could law into something else again at the brook. To extend it to 21. But that’s 8 don for 19 don worth, spam 4 cards and you can spend 9 just to flex a more inefficient don use that achieves the same board. But yeah broken.
@AlexTheDonhat5 ай бұрын
Bro, we had a 12-0 Enel player in EU after swiss :D
@QTtcg5 ай бұрын
Congrats to Yonss , I took Enel to the nats . Had some bad matchup luck . I played 4 pluffy . Went 2-2 against it. 3 of the 4 pluffy’s saw double Magellan . Over all I had some great games tho . Wish the tournament was run better the delays , the multiple re-pairs , the sudden end instead of playing round 11 really was a mess. The whole thing was disorganized and could have been handled significantly better.
@tcgdiscussions24135 ай бұрын
That sounds awful.
@tcgdiscussions24135 ай бұрын
I have said it and I’ll say it again. Magellan is the only card that does anything for it. I honestly hate the card. It’s uninteractive and 3 colors can’t do anything but take a hit from removing it late game through attacks or removal. It’s a cancer card
@oddyrock5 ай бұрын
We need this man to commentate some matches. That final was hype but the commentators were zZzZz...
@tcgdiscussions24135 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@achillesv89805 ай бұрын
Idk man dude had ohm and holy every hand, 3 Yamato end game, dude had God hand. I think it goes either way and as far as purple Luffy goes he has the best God curb in the game. Enel played great though grats to him
@tcgdiscussions24135 ай бұрын
Yeah he did. But I mean, you still got to play it. He crushed it and it’s another win for a deck that has dominated here.
@achillesv89805 ай бұрын
I feel you man, in a casino house always win right? People underestimate how good Enel can cycle off life like shirajoshi of trigger and kat her into life to Massive % chances in triggers going off like the Capone off life was amazing for Enel. (Idc about the whole trigger bs like it’s part of the game everyone stop fuckkng crying about it) plus the brûlée instead of thunderbolt for the additional blocks was an amazing call for him. Idk what his list is but I run 4 Amaru and I swear by the card.
@achillesv89805 ай бұрын
I think it’s like Saka is a card counter playing poker and Enel is the actual casino. You both can cycle just differently and sometimes Enel can play it for free. The Enel rush is a massive card that really messes Sakas game so much so that people should really consider running luffy I’ve even thought about adding the 7 drop or 3 drop starter deck luffy just for the Enel ( obviously 3 works better with the don numbers lol )