No to say the Irish Guy in the video was Nicholas not Paul .
@timoakley27712 күн бұрын
Not paul. Nicolas is the Irish guy.
@terry_hutt12 күн бұрын
Thank you for the correction
@timoakley27714 күн бұрын
Nice.
@ShadowWilliams12652 ай бұрын
Hi! Me, again! Do you mind sharing why you aren’t impressed with the quick release pedals. I’m considering getting some. I do have the non quick release but I haven’t installed them yet. Debating on whether the quick release would be better. Thank you!
@terry_hutt2 ай бұрын
Sure. To remove them you have to slide a stiff rubber ring on the shaft towards the pedal then click a metal ring. It requires quite a lot of finger strength which is difficult if your hands are sore from a long ride. They have a newer version out that might be better.
@ShadowWilliams12652 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt ok, thanks! Thats helpful in my decision making. I’m going to start off with the non quick release and see how that goes first.
@ShadowWilliams12652 ай бұрын
Hello, what bike path are you traveling along?
@terry_hutt2 ай бұрын
This is the Santa Ana river trail in Orange County CA.
@ShadowWilliams12652 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt thought so! Just wanted to make sure. I took this path but started in Santa Ana (Amtrak station). Coming from San Diego. I think I’ll start in Yoruba Linda next time. I want to ride the entire length on my Brompton. Then spend the night and head towards Irvine the next day. I’ll be sure to stop by the Bolsa Chica taco shop! 👍🏾
@ShadowWilliams12652 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Question. Did you stay in Big Bear? Any hotel suggestions? I love the route you took. Looks like you ride more than just the Pedal Park. Do the paths eventually lead you to town? Thanks!
@terry_hutt2 ай бұрын
The trail does pass through town about 2.5 miles from where I started. I live locally so I can't recommend any hotels but the Hacienda is the best Mexican and the Grizzly Manor is the best breakfast in the area.
@ivanmckeown52962 ай бұрын
Thank you. That was a very comprehensive and helpful review. Living in Ireland, we have plenty of hills and your review has helped me in my deliberations over which e bike kit to consider. Thanks again.
@terry_hutt2 ай бұрын
Many years ago I spent a wonderful day cycling around County Cork. Of course, I had to wait five days for the rain to stop first.
@Lvbutech2 ай бұрын
do you need an ebike kit for your Brompton ?😊
@terry_hutt2 ай бұрын
Haha 😀I put one on my touring bike and I love it. I wouldn't be surprised if I put one on my Brompton one day. Maybe I will treat myself on my 80th.
@Lvbutech2 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt haha, 80th, that's a very very long time. we have different designs of ebike kits for Brompton. if you need, pls. contact me. 😊
@veronikarodriguez25992 ай бұрын
Great video, I was wondering how it went. Thanks for sharing. Will there be another one next year??
@terry_hutt2 ай бұрын
Probably not in this form. The permits are too expensive although it's possible Willie will find a way.
@chrispark57953 ай бұрын
Hi Terry I finally have my rear wheel kit but am having problems seating my tyre.. did you have any issues while fitting yours
@terry_hutt3 ай бұрын
I have Schwalbe Marathon 40mm tires and they are a fairly loose fit but, once inflated, they are good. I pumped them up to 60psi and I've ridden several hundred miles on them without anything popping off. I think the rims have a 21mm internal width so they're ideal for wider tires.
@chrispark57953 ай бұрын
Well I put my old marathon same 40 width from my replaced rear wheel, but the tolerance on the new hub wheel is off. The tyre won’t seat on all of the line, some parts stay under the rim line so the wheel is spinning unevenly
@chrispark57953 ай бұрын
@@terry_huttI was thinking maybe it’s because the tyre has been on the old wheel so long. I was thinking of trying a marathon plus 47mm
@chaindrums3 ай бұрын
I had never thought of keeping the battery while charging in a fireproof bag, good ideia since I have read a lot about batteries bursting into flames while charging.
@terry_hutt3 ай бұрын
I've seen more KZbin videos on the problem since I got the bag and I'm thinking an empty metal ammo box would work even better. The battery is well made and I don't expect problems, but you never do until they happen.
@chaindrums3 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt I also read that a barbacue could work or even an oven!
@salsalawyer4 ай бұрын
Hand signals do wonders. The lady mading the no look turn was in the wrong. I can understand someone being in a zone but people are out and about with you. She needed to be more considerate.
@zey79744 ай бұрын
fantastic guide. thanks
@chrispark57954 ай бұрын
I’ve now received my kit m. I haven’t built it yet but I hear of people having problems with the battery or controller after riding in rain… have you had any issues so far.
@terry_hutt4 ай бұрын
I haven't ridden much in the rain, maybe 30 minutes of light rain, but I've not had any problems
@timc52664 ай бұрын
Over-priced
@couerleroi14 ай бұрын
That is one of the best reviews I have ever wat,hed
@terry_hutt4 ай бұрын
Wow - thank you
@corradogiorgetti93714 ай бұрын
so you like saving on a motor and risk with a non certified battery. good luck :(
@terry_hutt4 ай бұрын
It is CE certified and the EU's rules are just as strict as the US rules for batteries. I would prefer it to be UL certified especially if US home insurance companies start adding rules about e-bikes. They won't care that it's CE certified. I think it's as safe as any other e-bike battery. For all batteries you need to 1. Use original charger, 2. Don't physically damage the battery, 3. Stay in the room while it is charging.
@corradogiorgetti93714 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt Oh I see, thanks for the clarification
@davidhunternyc14 ай бұрын
Have you checked out the Zehus all-in-one hub motor/battery that's used in the Hummingbird? It's very lightweight. The only negative seems to be that it's limited to 15.5 mph, following UK laws.
@terry_hutt4 ай бұрын
I did look at that but the range and max speed were not adequate for my needs. There are several similar kits that look like they would work if you just want to pootle over to the shops or if you have a short commute, but I was looking for a larger battery capacity and a top speed that matched my local laws in SoCal.
@davidhunternyc14 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt Yes, it seems like many e-bike conversions come from Europe and they have low maximum speed laws. Doesn't seem to be optimum.
@Asgardtous4 ай бұрын
Hello Terry, thank you for your detailed introduction and testing. I have a Brompton C line 6-speed, and half a year ago, I also purchased the Geeko front wheel electric assist kit to convert my Brompton into an electric-assist bike. The process of modifying the front wheel is even simpler than your rear wheel solution; you just need to replace the front wheel from the kit with your tire. Since Brompton's front wheel is narrower than a regular bicycle's, custom service is needed when purchasing the kit. Regarding battery selection, since I mount the battery on the rear side of the frame's crossbeam, the 10Wh model, which is shorter and thicker, might be the best choice for the Brompton. Because Geeko's battery holder integrates the controller inside, wiring the battery to the front wheel motor is all that's needed. When I placed my order, I also chose front and rear lights. However, I find that it would be better without lights. Originally, having such a large battery mounted on the crossbeam already compromises the aesthetics of the Brompton. Additionally, the front light is not very bright and positioned lower, nowhere near as effective as a bicycle front light mounted on the handlebars. As for the rear light, since it remains constantly lit without flashing and its brightness is average, I feel that having a standalone blinking rear light would be better. As for the throttle, I found it completely unnecessary for daily use. Next, when I have a chance, I plan to open the controller and completely remove the wiring for the front and rear lights, as well as the throttle, so I can have the cleanest wiring possible. For those who are considering purchasing from Geeko, I'd like to share an additional point: the price you pay directly from Geeko is significantly higher than buying from their official store on Taobao in China (plus shipping costs). I regret not checking Taobao before buying from their official website. Of course, Taobao is primarily aimed at the Chinese domestic market, so there may be some language barriers, but if you can overcome them, you can find the same items much cheaper. Lastly, I'd like to share that there is still some noticeable rolling resistance in the front wheel. Even when turned off or set to level 0 with no assistance, there is significant rolling resistance. I've looked at various third-party brands' front wheel solutions online, and it seems that they all significantly increase the rolling resistance of the front wheel. Currently, it seems that the rolling resistance of the front wheel in Brompton's official solution is noticeably lower than that of third-party front wheels on the market. However, considering that the cost of the official electric assist version is nearly $2000 more, I feel that some additional rolling resistance is acceptable, especially since I rarely use the bike without assistance in daily life.
@terry_hutt4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the input on the Brompton version. That was on my short-list. I agree the throttle is very much optional. I wanted it because in the 250,000 miles or so I've cycled I have had a few accidents that made getting back to my car painful. It would have been really nice to have a throttle so I didn't have to pedal. I hope I never have to use it.
@wasilimpeh-sl6nn4 ай бұрын
Hi Asgardtous, would you be willing to share the taobao store with me? thank you!
@reempire8884 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with us on the Brompton. Any reason why you chose the geeko instead of Swytch? It seems Swytch has a better higher quality in terms of parts but I've heard the range is terrible even with their largest MAX battery. Your thoughts?
@wasilimpeh-sl6nn4 ай бұрын
@@reempire888swytch parts aren’t great quality. I would check out the ebike subreddit
@Asgardtous4 ай бұрын
@@reempire888 Swytch mainly has a strong online presence, relying on KZbin and other online media for video marketing, which has made it more well-known. In terms of quality, I personally think these brands are quite similar. The components are sourced from China, and since these types of ebike components have been on the market for many years, they are quite mature, and quality control should not be an issue. Swytch stands out with its cleverly designed controller and battery mount, making the ebike conversion look very neat, but it also has obvious drawbacks: the brand premium is too high and the battery capacity options are limited. In fact, the most fatal flaw of Swytch is its supply speed-you have to wait a long time. Geeko's main advantage is its integrated design of the controller and battery mount, with control buttons integrated into the mount as well, resulting in a very clean look after the upgrade. If you don’t need front and rear lights or a throttle, there are actually only two cables from the integrated controller and battery mount to the front wheel motor and cadence sensor. This is especially suitable for folding bikes like Brompton, as fewer cables make folding easier. Moreover, Geeko offers options for motor power (250w, 350w, 500w) and hub motor/wheel/spokes color (black or silver). The battery capacity, shape, and color are also customizable, and the price is much lower.
@moniqueviau27025 ай бұрын
Meditation, your voice is so soft *calm. Thank you for this video, always good to know technicality around bicycle. Myself, I’ve got an electric Brompton and 25km (speed average) is good enough for me. 😊
@terry_hutt5 ай бұрын
If I didn't already own a Brompton, I would probably have got the electric one. It's the best folding electric bike out there IMO
@dsds79035 ай бұрын
This route is also known as the "Citrus Belt". In between the valley floor and foothills is a few degrees warmer so the fruit won't freeze in the colder months of the year.
@yoannlaurens96365 ай бұрын
Hello Terry, Thank you for those explainations and video. I bought and set up the same kit than you, 350 W motor and 10 Amp/Hour Battery. I really appreciate. However I don't really feel difference between level assistance 3 to 5. I mean maximum speed seems the same. Do you have the same feeling ? Shall I access the secret page in the app ? Could you explain me how to reach this page? Thank you in advance. Yoann
@terry_hutt5 ай бұрын
Did you increase the default speed limit? Use the app to pair to your battery, press and hold the settings icon. Enter the password "1010" and change the speed limit on the settings page.
@fcbaker655 ай бұрын
Nice little bike trip ,you rode right near me ,me & the wife travel through Richgrove when we go to the casino in Porterville! I lived all out through those towns that you went through over the years of growing up around Porterville ,Strathmore & Lindsey ,even as far as Clovis next to Fresno ,it does have some beautiful scenery up towards the hills & snow capped mountains with the wild flower popping! Great video!..😎👍
@terry_hutt5 ай бұрын
It's a lovely part of the state. I'm surprised it isn't totally swamped by cyclists. It reminds me very much of the south of France.
@fcbaker655 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt You just rode through the nut capitol of the world ,you should had looked up some of the companies like Paramount farms or hit up some local fruit barns an picked ya up some road snacks!..😋👍
@geczy88215 ай бұрын
Beautiful presentation, Thanks so much.
@Rt-ig4bk5 ай бұрын
Pardon me….do you have any Grey Poupon?
@terry_hutt5 ай бұрын
Of course!
@chrispark57956 ай бұрын
Does this mean that the maximum Speeds on the website are restricted to the country law where I live? I.e. England..,
@terry_hutt6 ай бұрын
No you can set it to whatever you want.
@chrispark57955 ай бұрын
What is the secret page in the app you used to unlimit the speed?
@chrispark57955 ай бұрын
@@terry_huttthanks for your reply as I don’t feel comfortable purchasing without your knowledge.
@terry_hutt5 ай бұрын
@@chrispark5795 Take a look at the app's manual. It's full of useful information. The 'secret app page' isn't really that secret. It is mentioned in the app documentation at www.100g.tech/app-manual/ under section 5:Advanced settings mode.
@chrispark57955 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt this is what you are talking about . 5.1.3 Speed limit By default, the speed limit is 25 km/h. Please take care to set it appropriately according to the regulations in your area. If the speed limit is higher than the maximum speed of the motor, then the actual speed limit will be the maximum speed of the motor. What was the maximum speed it allowed you to select on your 350w motor.? As I remember you mentioning in your video that it had cut out of assist at 15mph pas but after using the app you reached 20mph on pas That will be the last question 😅 You have been such a help. Looking order mine tomorrow..
@Howie576 ай бұрын
Your frame would 135mmm..not 137mm, You're correct, they support shimmano
@terry_hutt6 ай бұрын
135mm would be the expected width, but mine measured at 137 so that's what I went with. The important thing is that not all frames are the same width so this needs to be taken into consideration. For example, this wheel would not have fitted my friend's fixie.
@Howie575 ай бұрын
@terry_hutt My frame measures 135 mm, on the website it says 135mm is the correct distance, if 130mm they can do something to the motor ,but charge you to do it. I've ordered from them and quite excited, I'm in UK
@michaelw.holmback84316 ай бұрын
Hey Jerry! I have also thought that it would be enough with a 350W motor and then with the largest bottle battery. I have a Principia Rex CC, which has been my forest bike for the past several years and it has a relatively light aluminum frame with a combat weight of 8.7 kg. then we'll have to see how it turns out before I dare to upgrade one of my carbon bikes. Thanks for your advice on fitting an extra torque arm, I will follow that! It has been a pleasure to follow your videos with the calm and well-considered approach With best regards and respect Michael _________________ _______0 _____~\<,_ ____(_)/ (_) Train hard, race easy
@michaelw.holmback84316 ай бұрын
Hey Terry! Many thanks for a very fine and balanced introduction to your E-bike Geeko conversion kit review. I, like you, have been looking for a way to update one of my racing bikes with a little assistance on the hills now that I'm in my 80s. I think I will use a Geeko kit, but am in doubt about which motor to buy and would therefore like to know which one you chose, as after watching several of your videos, I sense that we have the same opinion on it cycling for pleasure. With best regards and respect Michael _________________ _______0 _____~\<,_ ____(_)/ (_) Train hard, race easy
@terry_hutt6 ай бұрын
Hi Mike, I chose the 350 Watt motor because it comes with a non-pedal option (so does the 500 Watt). I have had a few rides in the last 40 years where I have crashed. One wrecked my knee, another cracked my hip, and a third dislocated my shoulder. I wanted the ability to get back to my car without pedaling when this happens next time. So the thumb control that runs the motor without pedaling looked like a good idea.
@isaackarsen87876 ай бұрын
Such a fun day! Thank you for capturing it and being out there to support. Can't wait for the next one!
@laopang913627 ай бұрын
Thank you Terry for sharing. You made a very nice video!
@Gravel-Cult7 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting. It looks like you had an adventure! I can see why The Brompton Traveller always takes a tire with him when he goes touring. I chose a 20 inch folding bike. My first tour out on the Oregon coast I shredded a rear tire on some glass. Most stores even in small town at least will carry BMX tires. Someone told my a trick if you get really desperate and that is to fill the tire with grass or dirt so that it at least has some volume so you are not riding the rim on your tire and potentially shredding it more.
@terry_hutt7 ай бұрын
Yep. It was a major learning experience. There are a lot of extra things to consider when touring on a Brompton vs a dedicated touring bike
@doooofus7 ай бұрын
the foldable bead that (some of) the continental contacts have is the main reason i switched from schwalbe marathon pluses. can carry a bunch of spares with no trouble, and they seem much easier to get on and off the rim
@MassimilianoAdamo19677 ай бұрын
Price!!! Please!
@terry_hutt7 ай бұрын
After the $50 discount and $50 rebate for posting this video I paid about $800 but it totally depends on the options you chose. It's all on their website.
@maitramgiske76617 ай бұрын
You are all so fast. I’m interested in the JT2V but still not strong on hills. I will be eating all the dirts 😅 That’s nice of shai to stay w u.
@leetsimpson7 ай бұрын
Top ride, Terry!
@kerinhuber94587 ай бұрын
Hi Terry. Glad you had a nice ride. The man in the Seattle vest is Matt V, one of our own PCH Randos.
@rdx9137 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@RuiFernandesBtt8 ай бұрын
how is very low speeds in more technical mtb single tracks...?
@terry_hutt8 ай бұрын
I would say it's not designed for that scenario.
@RuiFernandesBtt8 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt Why? it do not work on very low speeds?
@terry_hutt8 ай бұрын
I found it does not give assistance at very low speeds < 5mph. I found this to be a good thing when maneuvering tight corners but maybe not so great when trying to pull away on steep hills. It may be configurable in the app. I would contact 100g customer service. They are very helpful.
@ryanprasad20908 ай бұрын
Well done 🚴
@Robert_Anderson988 ай бұрын
Terry, Well now your comment about the cardiologist during lunch is a tad more profound. Nice meeting and riding with you, that is until you dropped us. Well done sir. Robert
@catherinecunningham18118 ай бұрын
Hi Terry, thanks for the review! Towards the end you say that you found you were doing 20mph when it felt like 15, but I thought it cut out and didn't give assistance over 15mph? Am I misunderstanding something? I seem to have similar requirements as you but I'm leaning towards the tongshen mid drive motor and wondered if you looked at that and if so, why you decided against it?
@terry_hutt8 ай бұрын
You are correct. By default the motor provides no assistance over 15.5mph but you can configure it to limit at any speed, ideally based on local laws. Where I live there is a 28mph limit so that's how I configured it. That's done through the application. I did look at mid-drive motors, but they look far more complicated to install and maintain. One of the things that attracted me to the Geeko was the simplicity of design.
@catherinecunningham18118 ай бұрын
@@terry_hutt thanks for clarifying, happy riding!
@cjtrade188 ай бұрын
How can the limit be adjusted?
@terry_hutt8 ай бұрын
It's in the application manual in section 5. www.100g.tech/app-manual/. Basically you install the app, connect to the battery, press the settings icon until prompted for the password which is "1010". That takes you to a page that allows you to change many things including the maximum assist speed.
@chrispark57956 ай бұрын
Does this mean that the maximum Speeds on the website are restricted to the country law where I live? I.e. England..,
@slotomorrow8 ай бұрын
Now let me get this straight. You put the lime in the coconut and mixed them both together... Oh wait, that can't be right because hey who listens to their dr after a heart attaack & stent. And then goes racing after Shai, not eating as long as possible, except for a good In-n-Out burger, then bonks. You're certifiable, sir. Happy New Year, hope you make it through this one on the low down. Just wondering what you will tell the doc. 🎉🚲🤫🍔🍟🦽 Vickie
@terry_hutt8 ай бұрын
Hi Vickie, good to hear from you. It seemed like a good idea at the time. I'm totally pumped I could stay with Shai. I think without the mechanical and the bonk I was on for a 9 hour 200k. Maybe next time.
@slotomorrow8 ай бұрын
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@markfarlam5928 ай бұрын
Hello Terry. Sorry to hear of your ‘worst ride ever’ but pleased that you seem to have come out of the other side in a strong place. Thanks for your time and effort recording your rides out, really enjoy the routes and the overlaid delivery, and the advice. After 20 years of cycling, I’m now a Brompton owner, and adjusting to the ‘bit steadier / knowing I’ll get there’ pace. Keep it up and stay well. Thanks, Mark (England).
@Landrace4208 ай бұрын
👍 review
@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md9 ай бұрын
Lame...
@leetsimpson9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Terry. Very interesting. My wife has an electric Brompton. They’ve got that mostly right…
@terry_hutt9 ай бұрын
Interesting that the electric Brompton was high on my list but I already have a regular one that I love and I saw no reason to own two. The 25km/h limit was an issue for me and you can't override that and the range is slightly less than I was looking for. Overall, the electric Brompton is a really good option and definitely the best folding ebike.
@100gtech9 ай бұрын
Electric Brompton is really good, for regular one we also has the kit to convert it to ebike. The folding won't be affected any. And the conversion looks harmony and nice.@@terry_hutt
@billhemingway55589 ай бұрын
i do like exploring on my bike, i've not been on a group ride yet tho. Thanks for sharing, i like that you show the good and the bad on your ride.
@billhemingway55589 ай бұрын
i dont like tubolito inner tubes they wont take abuse. i've had them fail consistently. I use my Brompton in the city or with a bus and train. I like bigger wheels for gravel and uneven terrain. Thanks for sharing what you learn.
@billhemingway55589 ай бұрын
what a fortunate ride indeed. thanks for sharing. I've just begun riding 6 mos ago and try to enjoy it daily.