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@MattMacKo 8 минут бұрын
I have had zero issues getting a nice high ball flight with stopping power. Trackman stats 9irom - 75mph - Land Angle 50.5* 8iron- 77mph - Land Angle 49.9* 7iron - 77mph- Land Angle 46.9* 6iron - 78mph - Land Angle 41* 5iron - 79mph - Land Angle 40* I did notice on a previous, while swinging my 6i at 85mph, Land Angle increased to 43.1*
@AnthonyParks-i4s Сағат бұрын
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@lawrencesykkmon2064 4 сағат бұрын
TD
@007_RC 11 сағат бұрын
Anything for fade biased?
@PhilConran 8 сағат бұрын
all the low spin heads with the weight up front
@billburbank4314 13 сағат бұрын
Kudos if you did this on two attempts. I wld take either of those!
@golfnut6129 14 сағат бұрын
I think people confuse fade with slice 🤣⛳️🏌🏻
@timwalker952 20 сағат бұрын
Interesting. Got fit recommendation for the 200 but am paranoid I won't be able to hit the 4 in the 200 so was wondering if the 300 would be better. Seems not unless it's a longer blade length?
@epgolfstudios 19 сағат бұрын
No difference IMO if anything more loft for average golfer will be more forgiving
@timwalker952 20 сағат бұрын
Interesting. Same w irons I'm assuming. Didn't know this. Have just started to fade my irons to try and improve my strike (hitting too many fat)
@GeeZeusJnrGTBond63 Күн бұрын
True results come from using a robot.
@epgolfstudios Күн бұрын
But expensive for us
@nathaniverson6828 Күн бұрын
Not sure if it was a weight in the set up thing because of the conex fitting tip. But I hit these so badly and I play muira blades and hit them great. So maybe I should try them with a proper build but good to know they’re solid
@96per58 Күн бұрын
The TSR3 is the best driver I’ve ever owned, hands down. I went from a Tsi2 to the TSR3, and I promise on everything I own that I’ve gained 40-50 yards off the tee. The ball launches half the height and I now get tons of bounce/roll. The Tsi2 went very high and practically plugged in the fairway.
@phillyl6085 Күн бұрын
Why didn’t he hit the Ai Smoke Max
@JCpNK Күн бұрын
Great video! I used to think cast game improvement irons were more forgiving but after picking up a set of used forged mizunos I feel it’s actually the opposite. I hit the mizunos higher and straighter compared to my AP1’s.. Also the feel and sound is so much better
@knifeparty7705 Күн бұрын
Same test, but with a driver optimized for a fade, spin of 2200-2400 when a fade is hit. I bet carry gets pretty close. Jealous of the drawers. Drawing my driver is a tall order...
@hypent500 Күн бұрын
Wow
@zacharymilos392 Күн бұрын
Video idea - 20 shots draw 20 shots fade on a tighter golf hole, then figure out the strokes gained. Would be interesting to see if fades are more accurate and how much, if any, strokes you'd give up hitting one in the long term.
@epgolfstudios Күн бұрын
Would be an interesting test to do. Kinda feel like you'd need more than 20 shots for it to be fair though. How sporadic my driving can be 😂 one day the fade could be better the next day the draw
@UnLikeU Күн бұрын
I had to do a Troll Search on Apex Irons after yesterday 9-3-24. I Game the Apex 16's & went to hit the Apex 21's thinking it's time to get new tech to offset my lack of mobility. DUDE! I was carrying my Apex 16 8 Iron 162-168 yards vs the Apex 21 Irons (5 Year newer Tech) within 2 yards of that. 🤣I was about to spend $900 bucks on a new set of clubs, until I hit them. HECK NO..🤣🤣🤣 Hit the center of the face for more distance. Upgrading from already having Apex is a HARD NO FOR ME. Upgrading from "Never Having Apex" is a Yes for me.
@BigDawgCAM Күн бұрын
If anything, this just proves Titleist Drivers are super consistent
@EliotLetitia-o8r Күн бұрын
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@jayfangRSA Күн бұрын
Front to back dispersion lowest with GT2 = more forgiving. May be marginal, but "physics" is real
@epgolfstudios Күн бұрын
Definitely don't disagree physics is really, I'm sure the measurement of MOI is completely real. My point is it's almost impossible to really see it now. The front to back dispersion is 100% me not the club
@smevox7490 2 күн бұрын
@RickShielsPGA Should try this with yours.
@rogeliomendez9135 2 күн бұрын
Been playing GT4. Great swings are putting me in places I've never seen on golf courses. Bad strikes are horrible, but in play and have shots into greens. Weird. Likeing so far, scoring has been better 🤷
@GoFast865 2 күн бұрын
Interesting. May have to try the 4 with the heavier weight in the back.
@Callatitlemade-fm6bu 2 күн бұрын
This guy hits it better when he hits it bad lol
@travlangley1 2 күн бұрын
You’re also on a simulator, which isn’t 💯 accurate
@epgolfstudios 2 күн бұрын
It may not be 100% accurate that's true. Infact I think it's impossible tbh. But it is 100% consistent which means you can compare data points against other models fairly
@davidoug22 2 күн бұрын
Il stick with my tsr4 weight front ans 2vramms more added to stock back weight. Forgiving bomber can't beat it
@kbklucas1837 2 күн бұрын
Do you suppose it makes a bigger difference for bad golfers than it does for good golfers?
@epgolfstudios 2 күн бұрын
Probably not. From a data perspective it would be a lot harder to tell what it's actually doing for a worse or less consistent golfer.
@Brad_Pinhorn 2 күн бұрын
this is great - I wanna hit these so bad! Do you find with all your content/testing of clubs you're finding things you maybe didn't know about (like the strike moving when the weight was in the back of the 4) - and in turn that's helping you with fittings?
@epgolfstudios 2 күн бұрын
Yeah it certainly can. But also everyone is different so not every head will give other people the outcome that it gives me. That's half the battle of fittings, just figuring out what works best for that specific player
@Ashun999 2 күн бұрын
Great content. Subscribed!
@epgolfstudios 2 күн бұрын
Thanks we really appreciate that 🙏
@paulwalton692 2 күн бұрын
Fascinating, am wondering how gripping up and down the shaft might change swing weight, too?
@freddym6643 3 күн бұрын
So if there's no forgiveness difference, then what is the practical difference between the 2 and the 3 model?
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Just the launch and spin difference mainly so depends what the player needs. But then you could just go up or down in loft to fine tune that anyway. The 3 has the extra functionality of the sliding weight which is nice to try and prevent a specific miss. So yeah really it's only the sliding weight and the looks as long as you make sure you get the right loft to suit your delivery. I've gone 2 as it sits much squarer than the 3
@freddym6643 3 күн бұрын
@@epgolfstudios So for example a 8 degree 2 and a 9 degree 3 would play very similar? (assuming those are the real lofts, I know there are manufacturing tolerances.) Does the 3 sit more open?
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Yeah exactly, I think they would play very close to each other. And no the 3 sits more closed than the 2. Well it doesn't but it looks like it does to me. Same as the 4. The 2 is the only one that doesn't look closed to me which is why I play it 😂 plus I actually really like the shape of it too.
@freddym6643 3 күн бұрын
@@epgolfstudios Nice that's helpful. I would have thought the other way around with the 2 and 3. Sounds like the 2 will be the one for me as well then, coming from a 3 in the tsr. 4 I've never understood the appeal of with the smaller head
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Yeah you'd think so wouldn't you. Very weird but I do think it's something to do with the lines they've added to the face. Well I'd still say get a fitting as you could definitely still find it easier to middle one Vs the others. Like I did here I was middling the 2 far more then the 3 or 4
@TreyEb3rt 3 күн бұрын
Pretty impressive content. Informative and fun to watch.
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Trey 👍👍
@Shyams990 3 күн бұрын
What gram weight do you put in the gt4 to make it a 2.5?
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
It's just the stock weights that it comes with as it already has one heavy weight and one much lighter weight so you just put the heavier weight at the back. Titleist do also offer different weights so you could even swap the heavy weight out for an evening heavier weight to further help increase stability, launch and spin 👌
@billburbank4314 3 күн бұрын
Toe almost 3 bills...ridiculous.
@user-qd8cb2nx4h 3 күн бұрын
What about these two vs pxg gen 7 p?
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Yup that would be a very close head to head, the numbers would be super similar. It's just another P790 basically isn't it 😂 not much difference between them all when they are playing the same loft
@timothysoto3254 3 күн бұрын
Great video. I switched from tsr4 to gt3. The unicorn ball is still there with the gt3, but the toe and heel carry 20 yds further with gt3 than ts4, IMO
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Timothy 🙌 great to hear you like the driver! I'm not sure 20 yards, that does sound a lot, but if you're finding that then that's amazing 👌
@user-sh3gf5sk8d 3 күн бұрын
Mid handicap? This guy must have the yips and the chiyips
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
When you have that speed and lack of face control it's pretty hard keeping the ball in play, especially round the courses we play where the fairways are like 20 wide 😂
@AshKnight 3 күн бұрын
Think I need one of these 😆 those heel strikes were beautiful 😍🤣 swinging it like Scheffler with the GT3! 😂
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Definitely not scoring like Scheffler though 😭😭😂😂😂😂
@supersoup5509 3 күн бұрын
Really good review and ideas.
@NiallAQ 3 күн бұрын
Interesting! 👍
@goodthankshopeyouaretoo 3 күн бұрын
You should test the 2.5 against the Darkspeed Ls with its heavy weight in the back!
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
That would be a great head to head!
@TreyEb3rt 3 күн бұрын
I second that one.
@markusrehn6497 2 күн бұрын
Sounds interesting! Would it have fade bias?
@epgolfstudios 2 күн бұрын
Both would be slightly fade bias i would say, yes. Cobra would be moreso
@goodthankshopeyouaretoo 2 күн бұрын
@@epgolfstudios slightly off topic, could you try the 10k with the different weights in the head and see the differences there? Txg turned the 10k almost into an lst by changing the 28g weight to a 23g (which is very heavy compared what’s in the rear of other drivers!)
@rvoykin 3 күн бұрын
With all the strikes in the low toe at what point do you just tee it up a touch higher and maybe set up a touch closer
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
I find tee height makes virtually no difference. And that's generally the same regardless of ability as i do it all the time in fitting with people who have a consistent strike. It does help sometimes but a lot of the times it makes no difference. Better finding the best club shaft combo that helps you find centre more, like the 2 for me was definitely more central so just play that and job done 👌😂 but got me it's a great miss and I'd rather low toe than high toe so happy to leave the tee where it is tbh
@stringerbell4711 3 күн бұрын
Enjoyed that, thanks, very informative. Would love to see you do the same with an after market shaft, what tips and cuts would be required, and to see how the relative flexes swing weights compared. Nice post...... Thanks 👍
@obomber27 3 күн бұрын
It would be good to see a video with different shafts in the GT2.5 and see how it performs
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Depends what you are wanting to see. That would really be a shaft fitting video for me, only because if I took the bad shots out then there would be no difference. Shafts just don't change launch and spin much at all. But obviously they can help improve timing, strike, miss etc. And then I don't feel that really links back to the head
@sillysausage4872 3 күн бұрын
i get so confused by these indoor sims. my best ball speed is 197 mph and on trackman total 363. but by your numbers of 325 an extra 30 mph means i should be easy at 400 yards .
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
There are a shed load of variables. What were your launch and spin like on the Trackman when you were getting those speeds? I can only assume your launch and spin is very sub optimal and that’s the cause of the lack of distance relative to ball speed. GC Quad in fairness I think does over read distance compared to Trackman and real life. I think at those distances outside id be at least 10 yards shorter.
@cliveg8350 3 күн бұрын
Wow, 11mph faster than Rory
@freddym6643 3 күн бұрын
Trackman is real, foresight massively overestimate distance. Especially with driver.
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
It definitely can especially when it gets too low spin on GC Quad. But I still think quad is far more consistent inside unless you use RCT balls on Trackman. But I've done head to head testing and if you are carrying the ball around the 300 yards mark then generally it's around a 10 yard difference between trackman and quad. As you get less and less distance the difference becomes less and less.
@sillysausage4872 2 күн бұрын
@@epgolfstudios I didnt think it was sub optimal. Haha. Launch 10.2 .carry 334 total 363 Using 8 degree LS arojet. I have like 10 shots all the same ball speed between 192-197. Outdoor trackman.
@hypent500 3 күн бұрын
Are your strike points usually low for drivers or just on the GT drivers. Is it better to have higher strike points above the center of the club face for the best results
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I can generally hit it low toe with any driver 😂 that is my strike miss tbf. And yeah if you're talking distance then higher on the face is definitely longer than lower in the face. But high on the face results in lower spin and longer distances meaning the miss can be bigger. For me id rather miss a bit low, might not go as far but generally a safer miss
@dougpulsford4721 3 күн бұрын
Great work again!
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Doug 👍
@RichieLawson35 3 күн бұрын
Great content Ross 👏🏻 Know this isn’t reflected in your data here, but I’m personally finding my new GT3 very left biased compared to TSi3 and TSR4 models I’ve previously gamed. Know the face graphics can influence club delivery in different ways for different folks. To my naked eye, there does look to be considerably less “toe flare” on the GT3 model vs TSi3 at address. For context, I tested the TSi3 and GT3 side by side in my same gamer shaft (Ventus Black TR6x). My mate also repeated the test- it also produced a left miss for him (I’m a +2.1 HCP, and he is +4.2). Noticed your very first shot with the GT3 went left as well. This also happened to us, and we had to consciously adjust. Interested in your thoughts mate. Is it in my head, or is there genuinely something to this!? 😂
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
I will definitely say with the new face graphics the face looks more up and left, even though it probably isn't, but it definitely has the appearance. And in our GT3 Vs TSR3 video Josh definitely squared the face better on the GT than the TSR, again essentially more left biased which for him was a good thing. So yeah I mean I could definitely see that mate. Possibly the GT against the TSR is a touch more left biased. And yeah it could be the reaction to the face. Who knows! But I would love to know 😂
@zacharymilos392 3 күн бұрын
Interesting thought - gt4 with weight back might actually end up with slightly more moi than gt3 but you can swing it faster due to better aero package = more ball and longer shots overall. Interesting stuff for sure, lovely vid.
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Zachary, and yeah GT4 with weight back vs the 3 I think would just overall be very close in performance and MOI
@flashkw83 3 күн бұрын
I play TSR4 with heavy weight back and really like it. With weight forward I got some that knuckled and fell out of the sky but with weight back I feel like I still get decent forgiveness. Assume GT4 would be similar.
@TheTurbomopar 3 күн бұрын
Have you done this with the darkspeed ls weight back vs X weight forward?
@epgolfstudios 3 күн бұрын
I actually haven't no, not to this deatlied extent but again would be a good video tbf and good test