Hunt deer don’t farm them

Don’t have to believe me, my portion of Wisconsin, a contributor to the loss of those big deer you speak of was going from shotgun to rifle. The other thing no one will acknowledge is KZbin. A certain popular channel ranting and raving a big deer is a 130 class buck especially on public land. Everyone sees that’s 130, 3.5 year old and assumes that’s a big deer. The deer population in general though is declining in general is because of agricultural practices. Every god damn farmer out there is taking away habitat. Every fence line or brushed up wood line is cleared up. Every crop field is sprayed with chemicals so there’s no native forage, every field is picked clean, there’s no 1986 JD combine dropping cobs everywhere. I could keep going but it’s culmination of a lot of things and no one will listen.

Tree stand harvester Problems 🙄...... SMFH 🤔

Outlaw cameras and a huge number of hunters will quit, then you will see a serge. Like you just said it’s so damn easy anyone can find the deer now a days, you still have to hunt them right but the challenge of locating deer is simple.

Clown show

Unfortunately here in NC anything bigger than a spike is in danger. On FB pimping a 100” 6 pt

Never in my life have I heard a less informed, more disjointed, ignorant perspective regarding "big bucks." No offense intended, but these are very young hunters that will change their views with more years and MUCH more experience.

He’s right folks, they’re not out there anymore, go find a new hobby/passion/sport, deer hunting is cooked.

At the hunting club I go to they have to be 4.5 year olds to shoot and sometimes there is slip ups but probably 90-95 percent of the bucks killed there are 4.5 years or older

Average deer in WI harvest is 1.5 years old, its bad. most gun seasons you will be lucky to even see a buck.

Man, this is depressing to listen to as a Louisiana resident. Our wildlife department doesn't do anything. They raised the crap out of our licenses and gave themselves raises and more vacation.

Yalls mindset needs to evaporate out. Yalls rules and restrictions and driving up the price of land has ruined hunting for the poor man/ meat hunter

To many hunters these days , drives me nuts people harvesting young bucks , damn thing hasn’t even had a chance to live a bit of life , and for the people saying they just hunt for meat …u get a lot more meat off a mature buck

I was doing a siding repair in the hood in Cleveland once and there's 2 guys outside grilling and they had shot a deer in the summer lol. At least they ate it

Funny, I'm sittin here e-scouting for potential permission spots in East Texas and public spots around my new home base for next year while listening to this podcast. OnX and cameras have changed the game entirely. Sure you gotta put the hikes in to verify, but it's a completely different world than 10-15 years ago. And I am super interested to see what Texas Parks and Wildlife biologist reports say about deer population numbers on public after the perfect storm of 2020, crossbows and other gadgetry and hunting influencers.

We get it you don’t like crossbows and you don’t like corn piles , your opinion means nothing stop dividing the hunting community

Most deer that I've killed have been in jeans and a plain blaze orange sweater

Many of the best deer hunters ever have been held to an impossible standard by the jealous . Then they are vilified for not playing accuser's game.The real crime here is no proof after all the attention from DNR and a swarm of public scrutiny ,mitch and his trophy have been disrespected.

Haha, he didn't mention LA when naming state's doing a good job with DMAP.

What is your opinion on illinois bucks guys? I'm in central illinois and harvesting 160-180. Most every year we do!

@18:19 He says there’s not 1 trail cam photo. 🤣

I see them all the time I know where they are on private land nobody hunts

Commical this guy talking about hunter intel. Saw on another podcast he has 300 cell cameras on all his properties. This guy is everything wrong with hunting.

Here in Oklahoma if you have hunters on all sides of your property and you let a 125 inch 3 year old walk you will never see him again I’ve done it and they get killed

Culling in an effort to change genetics doesn't't work in pins much less on free range deer. That dude's from Texas. He should know that. I agree completely with the high grading argument though. That's said, width restrictions are much better than point restrictions.

Shocked yall haven’t deleted this.

80% on a private hunt club maybe. Aint noway you get 80% on public land or even most hubting clubs.

Dont hunt

Most people that have big deer have plenty of land to put the feed to them

80% of the deer we kill in my county in the south are 3.5 years old or older. The flip side of this is that those deer are basket rack 8 pointers. It takes deer TWICE as long to get big in the south in my area. A deer isn't a real shooter until 6.5 years old.

Cell cameras have RUINED hunting.

Hate to say this but it has a lot to do with the DNR on what they do for the state and how many deer are allowed to be taken out in a state. Some states manage the herds and some don’t give a shit. A 21/2 or 31/2 is king in some states and a monster is that very few 41/2s, your only as good as your land is

No way that is true. Maybe on the management draw hunts where they have to check them in. Other than that I’d say it’s like 10-20% if that😅

How do they know for sure? Every Mississippian in the comments for this episode said they’re on an honor system. This is either “80%”factual or “80%” fake news.

Age data given was for private lands people who are enrolled in a program to manage deer. Of course that data set is going to show an older age being killed.

Minnesota took out their APR(antler point restriction) and optd for cwd hunting and contol the "spread" which is BS imo. It doesnt surpirse me that in other parts of the US especially in the midwest and NE that the avg age class of bucks killed are 1.5-2 year olds if they are doing the same thing. The "interest" to manage deer is if you're not killing it even if its a 2 year old or 3, i can promise you someone else shooting that deer.

Virginia is a hidden gem for big bucks even though we run dogs here many clubs have buck rules and participate in the dmap program which let's us harvest more doe

The numbers of hunters verses the number of huntable acres probably has a lot to do with that.

Fuggin rack hunters and huntin shows literally sucked the down right fun out of it ,,,jus a fuggin shame

That's data from DMAP. DMAP cooperators are trying to shoot older deer. I don't believe northern states do DMAP like the south does. That's why you see southern data showing older age bucks. They're only looking at the people trying to shoot older deer.

Cell cams, hunting apps, Internet , tv hunters, suburban hunting for big bucks on KZbin. Erase all of these items and wait 10 years. The big boys will be back.

I don’t know how they know 80% of our buck harvest is 3 year olds and older when don’t have tags or mandatory reporting on private land. The bag limit is literally on the honor system.

Hunting is suppose to be hard. Stop trying to ruin it.

I am so sick of the adds every 3 minutes I like the podcast but dam it’s like watching a tv series wait next week we will talk about the rest of the cast

To be fair you flat out shit on the south. When or miles talks about chasing 115 inch bucks in the swamp you said “why bother”.

Please get Chad Stewart back on and talk about Michigan. You guys were too easy on him last time, I’m begging you 😂

PGC could take some notes; buy more land to incorporate into the game lands system, select areas to have limited hunting for older class of deer, work with landowners with doe harvests. PA is doing things better than most, but there are always adjustments that can be made to improve. Keep having the conversations guys, educating people will only help everyone!

Incase yall missed it. Cj poached the deer.

As a native Texan that’s been in Mississippi for about 8 years. I get more fulfillment from public land hunting than I ever did on a lease in Texas. The Midwest can say what they want but I’m telling yall, Mississippians are shooters and some of the best hunters I’ve been around. Mississippi fails in many categories BUT the outdoors? They do it right

You buy a thousand or so acres and hunt the core. You don't need a fence. The pro hunters act like it's free range but if your hunting a large property that has food plots,cover and enough buffer from the public your essentially on your own preserve. The pro teams have been doing it for years. It's not fenced in but no one is getting close to your bucks and they deer have every reason to stay on your property.