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@navierproductions709
@navierproductions709 13 күн бұрын
pls do more writing from scratch videos of popular scores like avengers transformers and schiendkers list
@dwaynemorton2539
@dwaynemorton2539 Ай бұрын
Insane!!!!
@michaeldavis9954
@michaeldavis9954 Ай бұрын
Fantastic
@wkenneth8752
@wkenneth8752 Ай бұрын
6:51 shuffle 8:45 swing
@lusarmientomusic
@lusarmientomusic Ай бұрын
Loved the explanation 🎉
@cariboux2
@cariboux2 Ай бұрын
Sounds great. It's nice to hear a real musician talk about progeamming for a change!
@blackpranther
@blackpranther Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@kevinmcgriff8222
@kevinmcgriff8222 2 ай бұрын
Digging’ it!! 🎯
@sciocezze68
@sciocezze68 2 ай бұрын
👌
@sciocezze68
@sciocezze68 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant Version
@juanmcgruderjr6982
@juanmcgruderjr6982 2 ай бұрын
Today's a first for listening to your channel, and I MUST say, this is one of the BEST explanations of "the pocket" I've heard described in a video! I was looking for something to share with a bass player at my church. He often seems to drag behind the piano, but drags only a little less when our drummer is present. I'm sharing it with him to help him hear and see what a gospel, spirit- filled, rthym section lives for (pocket). I think pocket starts with an appreciation of the various waves emitting from others helping to form the "pocket." It's a comfortable, musical search for that conjoined sonic wave that you "feel" when you arrive there!!! It's a beautiful ride when you feel everybody pushing it in the same direction. As a jazz vocalist, I count on the pocket to help me groove with it during solos. Many gospel melodies are specifically written to ride on and around the pocket, with emphasis often expressed during various vamps as the song builds.
@guyguerra3695
@guyguerra3695 3 ай бұрын
You put out some great ideas here. I’ve been using Reason for about eight years, but two months ago I did some audio groove extractions and Pro Tools has some features that Reason doesn’t. I decided to switch to Pro Tools for a while, but I miss working in Reason, and DAW uses like this could pull me back. Great video.
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 3 ай бұрын
Yep! Each DAW has advantages and disadvantages. I love reason because I know my way around it best, but I know that there are other programs that are better for certain applications. I think there’s a place for both programs in most people’s work flow
@candacemiller3400
@candacemiller3400 3 ай бұрын
bass line...whoa. layered on top all the exquisite rest, a perfect mix, really superb
@dpalaoro
@dpalaoro 3 ай бұрын
So...are swing and shuffle synonymous?
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 3 ай бұрын
I’d say so, especially for production. Live performance is a little different because “Shuffle” or “swing” is the name of a specific family of drum grooves for drummers and “swinging” is used to describe a state of rhythmic danceability in jazz similar to the way “grooving” or “in the pocket” would be in funk or R&B
@GriffinPoole
@GriffinPoole 3 ай бұрын
there's only but so many sounds that would actually occupy the exact same frequency range as a kick drum, so why would u sidechain every track in the mix to the kick??? i understand sidechaining the kick to the bassline, but that's because they occupy the same space... but sidechaining every sound to the kick??? i've been mixing for over 25 years & never met another engineer who did that, i would love to hear what it sounds like.. do u have any videos where u actually did that?
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 3 ай бұрын
Great question. Even though there’s not a lot of bass in some sounds, there’s some in a lot of places you wouldn’t expect. Its easier to take it from everything else because if it’s not there, there’s nothing to take; but if there are a few db of lows I can “borrow” for a few milliseconds to give to the kick, I’ll take em. It really adds up in larger mixes. Also remember with a multi band comp, I can use the same concept to borrow a few db of 5k for vocals or 1k for the snare etc. Here’s a video where I went more in detail on that particular technique. It doesn’t have an example switching on and off with the effect but you can hear what it’s doing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH-4ioqGhMqLiM0si=5ccNafDMS9BlC82i Also, here’s a full tune I mixed with this technique music.apple.com/us/album/ill-never-barry-marion/1457146974?i=1457146975
@GriffinPoole
@GriffinPoole 3 ай бұрын
@blackpranther makes sense Bro, now I get it... I thought there would be a pumpin effect, but I didn't hear anything like that... Great execution, I gotta use that... Thanks Bro
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 3 ай бұрын
@@GriffinPoole Np! Thanks for watching and commenting
@deantehw
@deantehw 3 ай бұрын
This was the best visual!!!
@deantehw
@deantehw 3 ай бұрын
Let’s go Sam!!!!!
@lewysg241
@lewysg241 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see you back making videos. These are definitely some of the most useful reason guides out there!
@sattv9370
@sattv9370 3 ай бұрын
Same here, am glad - he is back
@okayranks-
@okayranks- 3 ай бұрын
The pocket is your ability to transition from lyric to lyric and be in sync with the beat simultaneously.
@OG_Mereles
@OG_Mereles 3 ай бұрын
Would you say that whether brothers are dancing or not is as good as a metric to infer the quality of the pocket? ♥ Is pocket gender sensitive? Thank you for sharing and much love to you. Take care.
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 3 ай бұрын
I only singled out the ladies because in my 20 years of playing professionally, women usually dance first. With the exception of some really bold fellas, men often play the wallflowers until women are dancing, whether just small movements in their seat or full on with friends on the floor. Of course there are exceptions to any rule, but a guy dancing first isn't a bet I'd take in Vegas.
@patriciavernon3643
@patriciavernon3643 3 ай бұрын
This is my cousin Samuel Prather. Keep playing music. I’m so proud of you. Your cousin Patsy in Florida❤️🙏🏾🥰
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 3 ай бұрын
Thank you🙏🏾
@kevinkilpatrick7510
@kevinkilpatrick7510 3 ай бұрын
you could also address how relaxed playing (never rushing notes slightly ahead of the beat/metronome, and instead instead falling slightly behind if not dead on with the click), makes engineers’ jobs WAY easier if a recording needs to be edited to improve the groove. that in addition to be much groovier than rushing notes, of course. to fixed rushed playing, the engineer has to add time to the track (or group of tracks), which can cause displeasurable audio stretching artifacts, or distracting duplicated “air”, or ugly, artificially extended sustains. but removing time is much simpler for the engineer (ie ableton’s cut time function and pro tools’ shuffle mode), and does not create the hurdles and artifacts of adding time/air
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 3 ай бұрын
Interesting! I’d agree except I think most folks that rush aren’t attuned enough to micro timing to make those type of adjustments. It is much easier to cut than add time though
@kevinkilpatrick7510
@kevinkilpatrick7510 3 ай бұрын
this is a great explanation. 2:18 🎯🎯🎯 ***the pocket is NOT the grid*** (sometimes it can be, but don’t assume that shifting notes or LFOs onto the grid will get the best groove out of the track)
@chusmaestro
@chusmaestro 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! I love the explanation but also the background music: what's the name of the song?
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! The background song is a track from my record with the solos muted lol music.apple.com/us/album/miss-timbo-pt-i/1457146974?i=1457147141
@LarryTesta
@LarryTesta 5 ай бұрын
What a load of waffle. The pocket is often mystified and overcomplicated but it's a pretty simple concept; it's just where you hit the beat in relation to where it technically 'should' be in a flat count. Say we have a 4/4, .. we're counting a flat 1 2 3 4... now imagine the snare is on the 2... the pocket refers to where you place that snare in relation to the flat 2 beat. Do you push the beat and have it come before the 2, or pull it and have it come after, and if so, how much? This is how you define the pocket and determine the feel or groove of a beat. A band all playing in the pocket has nothing do with the actual pocket, and more to do with their time keeping abilities.
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 5 ай бұрын
Some people might think my description is simpler than what you just wrote, but that’s why the Internet is great to learn; there are so many great resources so you can find the one that clicks best for you personally. I would strongly disagree that it’s only about where the two and four falls, the upbeats are really where the groove lives in my opinion.
@LarryTesta
@LarryTesta 5 ай бұрын
popNemo @@blackpranther
@theewarriorgoddess
@theewarriorgoddess 6 ай бұрын
One of the best songs I ever wrote
@TheEvastarProject
@TheEvastarProject 6 ай бұрын
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! THANK YOU!!
@cesarin521
@cesarin521 6 ай бұрын
I use reason 12, is that reason drum kits a plug in that comes with Reason? I would appreciate any feedback. thanks
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 6 ай бұрын
I think it comes with 12…
@cesarin521
@cesarin521 6 ай бұрын
@blackpranther thank you for the reply. I will check on my next session. I just found you a day or ago and totally love your videos! Great job explaining things.
@cesarin521
@cesarin521 6 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for posting!
@ShivSagar010
@ShivSagar010 6 ай бұрын
Thank You Very Very Much Sir!
@n6uri
@n6uri 6 ай бұрын
thank you so much for this! I had a go at programming brushes and it turned out amazing.
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 6 ай бұрын
DOPE!!!!🔥🔥🔥That’s why I do this 🙌🏾
@charlesjames9783
@charlesjames9783 6 ай бұрын
Very nice for programming. Most live drummers have a hard enough time playing on time consistently. Splitting up elements is too much to ask.
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, bro! While I agree, beginners and most hobbyists might not be able to separate a part like that, professionals and high end enthusiasts probably can if they work on it
@locutz
@locutz 7 ай бұрын
i'm just getting back into reason and i love the re drum machine i forgot you couldn't use custom sounds in there ,i knew about nnxt i just didn't know how to use it properly and you you sir brought a wealth of knowledge to it and thus earned a new subscriber
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Let me know if there’s any topic you want me to cover in the future 🙏🏾
@lawandmusic2619
@lawandmusic2619 7 ай бұрын
Based on this I'd say you have a gift for describing the ineffable. Nice!
@MJSDENVER
@MJSDENVER 7 ай бұрын
Wow...this is amazing presentation. You are amazing with your detail. Thank you so much!
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@perryjude1230
@perryjude1230 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I have had the hardest time with this.
@fiansh
@fiansh 7 ай бұрын
Hey thanks a lot for this valuable lesson, just need one help though trying to find which video have you shown these fillers, licks etc that you are using in the near end of the video, and are these available directly or for sale.. please help me out with these thank you brother !
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think I made one on the fills specifically… most of it is just eighth note, triplet groupings with accents on the last note, placed in different parts of the drum kit. If you go to samuelprather.com and shoot me an email, I might just create a package for you. What would you want in it? How much do you think it’s worth? I’m still figuring all this stuff out😂
@AJK.630
@AJK.630 7 ай бұрын
This is smart, it’s definitely not as hip as having Elvin or Tony redefine American music behind the kit, but it will do in a pinch. Good Stuff Mr Panther!
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 7 ай бұрын
🤣 There’s definitely no replacement for those two! Glad you enjoyed it
@rachelbarnett2271
@rachelbarnett2271 7 ай бұрын
This was perfectly explained! Love it! ❤️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@gerardovazquez588
@gerardovazquez588 7 ай бұрын
Que sabrosa coombinacion de Jazz con Salsa
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 7 ай бұрын
!Gracias!
@GuyGGormanandtheGMen
@GuyGGormanandtheGMen 7 ай бұрын
Well explained!
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@timpullen4941
@timpullen4941 7 ай бұрын
If you take your quantise and apply 66% to the 16th notes. It swings, but it has no zing. Delay that last 16th a tiny amount and this is when the swing comes alive. I usually quantise 16ths to 69%.
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 7 ай бұрын
The possibilities are endless, 72% might be it for one song/song section/figure, 62% for another. Try it all out to get that “Zing”
@andristeika1452
@andristeika1452 8 ай бұрын
Why is it called so ?
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 8 ай бұрын
That’s a great question! I have no answer besides a guess. I think it comes from the colloquialism “out of pocket” and “in the pocket” loosely meaning to do or not do something broadly understood to be unacceptable.
@AaronZuniga617
@AaronZuniga617 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been searching for months for a video like this to help my get a better understanding of groove and rhythm your channels so helpful thank you so much
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 8 ай бұрын
Awesome! Your welcome
@yuriselys3001
@yuriselys3001 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic 😊
@erikjohnson2976
@erikjohnson2976 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic overview of brushes! Thanks for your expert guidance. Subscribed!
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Feel free to leave topics you’d like me to cover for future episodes
@christianmerkle5303
@christianmerkle5303 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video. I thought you did an exceptional job explaining swing and that the video was very well shot and edited. You've helped me wrap my head around the swing concept almost completely. Now all that's left is to "put pen to paper" so to speak.
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Fantastic
@dougchapman-ew7jc
@dougchapman-ew7jc 8 ай бұрын
To the point and fun to watch! Guess I’m older, but how about when Chuck Rainey was behind and Bernard Purdy was ahead ?
@blackpranther
@blackpranther 8 ай бұрын
I must be old too, because I love Bernard and Chuck lol I think the bass being a little behind the drums is pretty normal in soul music; I think it be a little weird hearing it the other way around
@johnknight9150
@johnknight9150 9 ай бұрын
As a drummer, I feel it's when you've developed past the point of being overwhelmed by all the elements being thrown at you, after which you can be comfortable enough to place a note ahead, on, or behind the beat with confidence, knowing how it will affect the overall feel and lead the band. [additional]: I think the "pocket" is that space between spaces, where you can sit inside time and think, almost like it's the slow-mo bullet-time parts of the Matrix.
@stevepolius-nx8ip
@stevepolius-nx8ip 9 ай бұрын
Bro you give to much away We still don’t learn👏🏾😡👏🏾💯