Hayes is great defensively. I never see him diving for balls every other game and getting the front of his jersey dirty. He is not web gem highlight guy. That's how good he is.

One could argue that Tommy La Stella (2019) fell victim to the curse, as well. He was having an awesome season before he fouled a ball off his shin that he didn’t return from that season.

Great video man

I would've laughed so hard if the intro to this video had been a clip from the song "War" by Edwin Starr!

WAR is a measure but I am not sure what it really measures. Who is the replacement? When I was introduced to WAR Ozzie Guillen was the White Sox shortstop. The stat monkeys hated on him and claimed that he could easily be replaced. So how long did it take the White Sox replace him for more than one season? Over a decade. WAR might be a good stat but it needs a new name. It has nothing to do with actually replacing a player. WAR is retrospective. It is not predictive over a series or even a month. I remember reading an article by Bill James where he criticized people for misusing the stat as a day to day predictive tool. Analytics in general are useful. Using analytics to make an in game decision for a specific player is foolish. All the values assigned to specific events are based a very large number of iterations but each at bat is a sample of one. You don't get x% of an event. You either get it or you don't. The result of a single event has a probability of 0 or 1. The population statistic is the summation of the 1s over the number of repetitions.

The issue you come to is you’re using preconceived narratives and are expecting that the stats will align with them. You would think salvy is more valuable than Kevin kiermayer just because he’s the bigger name and accrues higher counting stats. The reason 1B and DH take a huge hit on run value is because every major leaguer can do that job, not every major leaguer can play CF or shortstop. Additionally, ryan Howard’s 125 ops+ is a lot closer to average for a first basemen then you might believe. Although I do believe there are some blind spots in war, no of those were what was described here but merely just not having a great understanding of what goes into war.

I will never understand how the player that sees the most action in the infield is considered so unimportant defensively. I firmly believe a great defensive first baseman makes an entire infield better. Look at the difference between the Mets infield in 1999 with olerude at first vs 2000 with Todd Zeil

War is a flaw stat. You explain it perfectly in your video. As a Phillies fan, the Phillies don’t win the World Series in 2008 without howard. Howard was hitting under .200 in august but he caught fire in September, and the Phillies were 3.5 games back of the Mets 2 weeks left and caught and pass them because of howard. War can’t measure clutch, and in September 2008, howard were clutch. War also favored walks( plate discipline, a great eye ect) ashburn had 1100 walk compared to 500 K’s, and with that a high obp 396. Sosa only had 929 walks, .344 obp. Now McGwire had 1317 walk and a 394 obp so I don’t understand that. Defensive ashburn may have been the greatest defensive center fielder of all time. Well sosa and McGwire were meh( even those mark did win s GG in 1990) My biggest problem with war is there are 3 different wars. Fangraph, baseball reference and another website. Seem like most people use bwar but when you have a massive swing between them. That a problem.

Bill James' fantastic book out of the 1980s, "Whatever Happened to the Hall of Fame?" was talking about this long ago. As players get more and more specialized, it becomes increasingly harder to maintain the same levels of accomplishments that we are used to seeing. Someone like Andruw Jones back in the 1990s, for example, might get rubber stamped for the Gold Glove on an annual basis without much thought. Now, even someone like Nolan Arenado has to maintain fantastic defense for his entire career to even be close to winning the number of Gold Gloves as someone in the 1970s. When you total up his career, you might say, he only won X Gold Gloves, so he's a fringe HOFer. When in truth, being able to win half as many in the modern era is a substantially harder accomplishment than, say, a Brooks Robinson just getting the award almost by default every year in the 1960s and 1970s.

This entire video is based on the fact that you cant understand how stats work

Justice for salvy

Griffey Sr. used to live down the street from one of my friends when we were growing up. One day, Sr. was outside doing stuff in his yard when my friend and I walked over to his house. He stopped and talked to us and gave us each a can of coke. The Griffey's are beloved in Cincy to this day.

The problem with WAR is that most people don't know how to use it. It's a good indicator of the relative value of a player over the course of a season, but it is very imprecise. Unfortunately, a lot of fans and media types tend to use the stat as if it's the end-all be-all indicator of a player's value and treat it as if it's a more specialized stat like OBP or WHIP. Tallying up the total WAR of a player over a career doesn't really say anything because you're just adding up numbers that don't really mean much when compared against each other. There's no one stat that is going to accurately summarize a player's total performance, and everyone needs to stop pretending that's what WAR does.

Dang, I clicked on the video expected to get the same old same old, but your vibes are truly good. Honestly the way you do your thing is really refreshing and inviting. Keep it up homie!

Fielder was worthless to a TEAM ask the Tigers

What are your thoughts on WAR? 👀 What’s your favorite example of WAR being good, or awful? Cheers to a great day, you LEGENDS!

100% hof.

He’s the most overrated player I have seen in almost 2 decades. He is hitting .249 this season which raised his lifetime average to .239. 😂😂😂 G R O S S L Y O V E R R A T E D

...cursed because they have a clueless owner. PERIOD.

We’re not shitty anymore!! 😂

you know what a basball curse makes a lot of sense.

As a Reds fan I watch every Reds game. Elly makes incredible plays at SS that don't even show up on a stat sheet. He has caught multiple balls halfway out in left with his elite speed.

He makes mistakes and errors but he is very fun to watch. He seems like a nice guy also heard he is trying hard to learn English so more fans can see his personality, gotta respect that.

Actually it was Mitch Williams that everybody always compared to the Wild Thing character. I never heard of Hampton being called that.

That, my friends, is how you do a god damned thumbnail!

3:39 it should be "3 FEWER steals" not "3 less steals" And then right after you say "Elly had way Less ABs" should be "fewer ABs" You seem smart, otherwise i wouldnt bother pointing these mistakes out. And tons of people do the same thing you did. But maybe since youre a baseball fan youll appreciate the language rules once you hear them. If the thing is "countable" then we use "fewer" So its "fewer hamburgers" and "less food" Same with "amount" and "number" I constantly hear people say amount when they should say number Less is to amount as fewer is to number Alright thanks and awesome vid, we love Elly here in Cincinnati. His debut in 2023 when the Reds went on a big win streak and Elly hit for the Cycle was the most excited peoppe had been for over a decade for sure

He needs to bat left handed only. His average and slugging are lower as a righty Also, I am tired of watching him get picked off. Arizona had a set play ready for him yesterday and he bit like a total fish.

As a Phillie fan, that Dominic Briwn reference was so evil.. 😂 but you just earned another subscriber. Great work. 🫡

Lets not forget.... There was a UFO scare in Las Vegas right before Elly showed up in the MLB. Hmmmmmm????

He's on pace for 200+ strikeouts 💀💀💀. Pitchers will figure him out very quickly, just like last season 🤷🏻‍♂️

Still don’t think he’s that good

Subbed for great video and brooklyn 99 references.

This video needed to be made As a fellow and former Elly hater

uffda? where in Minny do you hail from? Edina Cake Eater here

If Elly can figure out hitting as a righty at the MLB level (ironically he was better from the right side in the minors), nobody will be able to stop him. Wish Boston could have a guy like that on the roster.

I've lived and died with this team since 1973. I sat there and watched Nolan mow them down, Frank Robinson hit the last few of his fading career out, Frank Tanana run his mouth and make a fool of himself, Bostock, Adenhart, so many washed up vets trying to get a few more bucks out of MLB. The Scioscia years culminating with the W.S......On and on... Are we cursed? Who knows?

Loving this channel man. Keep up the work.

His arm could use some work but his glove is amazing

No that was Mitch Williams

Everyone knows it's Mitch Williams

I thought Carlos Zambrano had a season where he hit 7 homers.

I’m shocked that Hampton never sparked a debate over making him a two way, the game would be so different today if that experiment happened

Daaaamn I was just thinking about Mike yesterday. I created this lefty pitcher on The Show and she wears 32 on my Braves. He's the last person I remember wearing it with ATL. I remember him always being injured as a kid lol. But during the rare times he was available, he was money. That one year he had with the Astros was craaazy.

Edgar Martinez is universally credited with saving baseball for Seattle.

One of the strangest declines ever. Will not be a HOFer

Pedro Martinez was robbed of the MVP not once but several times. He was also brutally robbed of the Cy Young award the year that Barry Zito won it.

I got Nomar but it’s very close

If his defense was up to par he might have had a real shot at the Hall of Fame.

Great content but way too much redundancy for me. This video could’ve been done well in half the time.