The Brock Paverbase people specify compaction of the bedding sand (by hand tamping) but in professional installer videos they don't compact the sand. Can anyone explain?
@holymoly2714 ай бұрын
Small fortune on a 40" by 6' base - just spent. Hope it works. The Paver base is just 20 inches wide. Would make much more sense to consumers if it was 24 inches wide by 3 foot.
@2nightplayers3283 ай бұрын
The Lowe's version is 24" x 36".
@holymoly2713 ай бұрын
I take this comment back. It's a perfect size to NOT cut my standard bricks. 😄
@AW-gg3yw4 ай бұрын
How can I anchor a gazebo down if I use this paver base?
@40_40_Vision4 ай бұрын
Get a gazebo that’s bigger than your patio and anchor it to the ground. If it’s huge and you can’t… 🤷🏾♂️ I’m not sure if you can lag it to the pavers without them cracking. I’m no pro. I’m watching a DIY video.
@AW-gg3yw4 ай бұрын
@@40_40_Vision Thanks
@tylerdavis57015 ай бұрын
I'm using this on clay soil, after screeding 1/2" of leveling sand, watering the sand for cohesion, hand-tamping it with a 10lb hand tamper, then adding a bit more sand to cover in the spots left by the tamper and screeding again...placing like 4 panels and 2 (large) pavers and testing, I noticed there's a little give to the pavers when I walk on them. I don't know if this is normal or expected.
@CoupleaMiles-qu8wi7 ай бұрын
No audio on this video?
@rmcquay9 ай бұрын
The Brock PaverBase works perfectly in Houston over crap clay. I am on my third paver project today at my residence in Houston. My first project was 2 years ago, over 30' long and 5 feet wide and looks as good today as the day I laid the stones over Brock PaverBase with sand.
@harold17338 ай бұрын
Hi. I also live in Houston and have cheap, dying st. Augustine grass over clay in my back yard. Any pointers or resources I can follow?
@robertsheward9336 Жыл бұрын
So people have been laying pavers directly on sand for years now, what is the benefit of using these Brock paver bases??
@kevinsaint206 ай бұрын
The 4” of gravel at the bottom is no longer needed. Which is a huge step that costs a lot of money and time since it has to be compacted too.
@bodhisattva6308 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. How perfect should the ground leveling be before adding the sand ,? Will sand adjust for any little imperfections in the base. My base is level but some light does pass under the level when I check
@Ryan-zv6yl Жыл бұрын
The ground level will be your rough in. Get it relatively smooth but it won't be perfect. Sand is very good at self leveling so it will fill in imperfections when you level it out to the grade you want
@marcolobina2125 Жыл бұрын
Salve , avete in Europa dei distributori ?
@AK-oz4ew Жыл бұрын
Company claims that it replaces 5 bags of base (200 pounds) but with sand being $5/0.5-cu ft bag these days I have to question the savings with $13 2x3 panels. The drainage through limited holes is also very questionable. Not arguing that it is easier to level however compacting sand becomes crucial and a compactor may be needed. See benefits of better weed control though
@ClaytonHendon Жыл бұрын
its going to replace the 4" of base material (High Performance Base, 3/4 minus, etc) that you would normally put under a pedestrian-traffic paver area. it's not just the cost of the material, its the labor to pick up large quantities of base (usually a trailer and buying a yard at a time from a stone/gravel supply yard), and then the labor of moving that from the trailer to the project area, then spreading, then compacting in 2" layers at a time...vs leveling your ground, rolling geotextile, spreading sand, and snapping 3x2 panels together. If you are doing DIY and price your time at $0 you may not see a cost difference...
@jillathethrilla Жыл бұрын
Any tips on what kind of sand to use? Any particular brand?
@shaunmurphy192 Жыл бұрын
These would be so helpful in redoing our little patio I'm our backyard I was gonna do a flat concrete cement patio but if this is alot cheaper can someone help me with what I would need. The paver stones bricks I could get from Walmart cause I work there I want to extend the patio I want to add a patio furniture set from Walmart but we also have a swing and little table and chair I have marble chips and pebbles on it now but weeds grow through it. I still want the landscape lighting around that I have. Can I get some help with this this and the cost too. 😊
@connie9521 Жыл бұрын
I’m installing 16” paver stones in a channel 10 ft x 18” over a concrete cut out that’s 4” deep. Stones are 1 1/2 “ thick. Do I still need a sand base on top of the concrete base? 😮
@cubone442 ай бұрын
I think the sand is just for leveling. If the concrete is flat probably shouldn’t be an issue.
@stephenvreeland5131 Жыл бұрын
What is the point of these panels if you still need to use sand...Waste of money and no thank you
@Engineer_Heathen Жыл бұрын
It eliminates having to have a 6 inch gravel base which is a bitch to dig by hand, nevermind the tons of gravel needed.
@gloriatucker6158 Жыл бұрын
What is a compacted base. Seems like you going through all the steps for a regular job
@laurawood92342 жыл бұрын
How deep do I have to dig dirt , to level & put weed material ? How thick is the sand to be ?
@Paintplayer12 жыл бұрын
The sand needs to be 1/4 to 1/2 inch per their instructions
@Chmeier5 Жыл бұрын
You will want to do some math for your paver width and how high you want your pavers to sit relative to what's next to it (grass, mulch, rocks, etc.).
@FatalFury0072 жыл бұрын
What kind of sand was used in step 2?
@tyronevonchadley Жыл бұрын
Self leveling sand
@tyronevonchadley Жыл бұрын
Leveling sand
@Sane10152 жыл бұрын
How level does the ground need to be before putting down leveling sand?
@WholeLottaRandoms Жыл бұрын
close doesn't have to be perfect.
@billygilbert79112 жыл бұрын
Did you stake the sheets down? Also I see you left the metal pipe after screeding.
@Paintplayer12 жыл бұрын
You don't need to stake them down that I'm aware of, you just use edge retention border to keep them in place and you stake that down. And yes, I'm about to install this tomorrow and they say leave the pipe or rebar that you use as a screed guide in place
@vinhddoan52412 жыл бұрын
I was confused about the paver edger in the video it was put above the panel would the sand under the panel be able to move away then?
@TheCureThatKillz2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Can other products go on top of these matts aside from pavers?
@TanyaOwens2 жыл бұрын
what size board? 2x4?
@Joshb522 жыл бұрын
For anyone doing this you need to run a plate compactor over the pavers when sweeping in the sand. You will not have a complete full of the joints and the polymeric sand will not set correctly.
@alishasouslesoleil2 жыл бұрын
Brock’s how-to instructions on their website say, “DO NOT USE A PLATE COMPACTOR TO VIBRATE THE PAVERS!”
@meperson2 жыл бұрын
@@alishasouslesoleil you are exactly right, in the video the person is stepping on individual pavers on their toes to compact the sand.
@Just_Jeff_Tunes Жыл бұрын
Don't do this- their manual says two times in bold lettering "DO NOT USE A PLATE COMPACTOR TO VIBRATE THE PAVERS"
@terridowney25812 жыл бұрын
Can you use the base for an above ground swimming pool
@callmefrog762 жыл бұрын
Would this be sufficient enough to act as a floor for a 10x10 shed?
@Paintplayer12 жыл бұрын
I'm about to use this under some larger pavers for an 8x10 shed. If you come back in like 2 weeks I'll be able to tell you if it worked. I just did the majority of the dirt leveling today and will be doing the sand and everything tomorrow. My total area will be 11x13 to accommodate the shed with some additional space on two sides by my fence
@asscrack99 Жыл бұрын
so how did it work out a year later? everything still square and level at the edges? no sinking or settling at the edges that you can see?@@Paintplayer1
@NikkiChu110 сағат бұрын
@@Paintplayer1 did it work?
@Paintplayer19 сағат бұрын
@NikkiChu1 it did, the shed went on the pavers with this under it with no problem, and there has been no settling or anything since then. I'm very satisfied with it.
@robertjohnson34452 жыл бұрын
I have 400 sq ft pavers in backyard, but the previous owner made some strange pattern that I don't like, and it grows moss, so I wanna pave again. My question is, can I use this on the old pavers directly?
@bonanzatime2 жыл бұрын
Does the ICPI endorse this bullshit?. I think not.. That means it's garbage for Harry Homeowner.. Good Job Home Depot.
@bonanzatime2 жыл бұрын
So what is the advantage of using that stupid 💩? Except that it makes it easier for somebody who doesn't know wtf they're doing (instant gratification). Because I'll tell you this, it sure as hell doesn't make it stronger. In fact, it is weaker because you're not compacting the pavers 'into' the sand 'leveling' bed.. That 💩 is garbage for fucktards.
@erikgillespie65692 жыл бұрын
No sound
@Mike_Genisys3 жыл бұрын
How would this work installing on a concrete slab?
@TanyaOwens2 жыл бұрын
hopefully you found your answer by now. But go to HomeDepot.com, they have the PDF installation and a video
@EverettDiane3 жыл бұрын
What is the long term stability of this product on sandy loam using small pavers? Do we need weed barrier installed under the sand?
@Paintplayer12 жыл бұрын
Yes, the weed barrier is to retain the sand
@mihaipopa94143 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this is very helpful.
@SteveTabs6453 жыл бұрын
Nice easy video 👍🏼 I have a question, can paver base be layed on the concrete slab? I have a walkway that’s uneven and I was wondering if I can put a thin layer of sand before laying pavers down? Thanks again! 👍🏼
@martinusriovanni46322 жыл бұрын
The problem with this is what caused your concrete to get out of level in the first place? You are covering a problem up if you do it that way and it will transfer to the hard work you put into your new project too. So much of these pannels' success lies on just how well the foundation is under.
@christophertovar68212 жыл бұрын
You should be fine as long as you fill any cracks in the concrete with sealant to prevent the sand from being washed out from under your pavers
@danielmurzellotheunknownma74813 жыл бұрын
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@andreaeilenberger29733 жыл бұрын
I'm confused about how to create a slope. I know it needs to be about 1/4 inch per foot away from the structure. But do you create the slope when digging and tamping the soil, or when laying the sand?
@themeilanart3 жыл бұрын
Probably a slope when digging, and then you'd just need an even layer of sand over the dirt.
@jackrandom4893 Жыл бұрын
Get a four foot level, tape a one on block to the bottom of the level on the far side. The block sits downslope and the normal edge sits up. If the bubble is in the center of the two indicators or slightly above the indicator on the upslope, you know you have a downward slope. The measure every four feet depending on length.
@danschw3 жыл бұрын
The ads preceding the video are WAY too long! Get a clue KZbin, we don’t mind you making a buck but be reasonable.
@TanyaOwens2 жыл бұрын
use an ad blocker
@dctineffect5 ай бұрын
hit the skip button- I was able to skip after 5 seconds
@justabouthadit093 жыл бұрын
Can you pour concrete over this ?
@WhoGaveThisGuyACamera Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't think so, it drains
@michaeldwyer14473 жыл бұрын
yes!
@joja25683 жыл бұрын
Does this replace 6 inches of gravel?
@bobbye47313 жыл бұрын
Yes just make the ground flat, optional to use weed fabric, sand and then lay these on top and then your bricks
@liberatetutemeexinferis59023 жыл бұрын
What's the purpose of the rebar?
@blueheart4503 жыл бұрын
Rebar is for guide rails to have an even layer of half inch of sand to lay the panels on . Rebar is removed and sand fills in the gap .
@doriskemp21954 жыл бұрын
Great banjo pickin!
@noahh74254 жыл бұрын
how deep do you have to dig with these? total depth
@heatrock134 жыл бұрын
how deep did you dig?
@michaeldwyer14473 жыл бұрын
20
@5flyinfish4 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend to or not to use a plate Compactor to get the polymeric sand to infiltrate into all of the crevices when using the Brock paver base?
@justinlink16163 жыл бұрын
I believe the manufacturer (Brock) recommends that you _not_ use a plate compactor _over_ the paver base. I would expect thatyou should be fine if you use a tamper to vibrate the pavers to get the sand down further, and personally I would recommend it.
@5flyinfish4 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend using a plate Compactor on top of the pavers to help the polymeric sand infiltrate all crevices when using the Brock paver base?
@SSLnRWL4 жыл бұрын
Great job and now I am to going do it as it would be within my budget. Have an issue. I want the paver walkway to be leveled with the side of the garage driveway. Question: how much thickness allowance should be given to these pads as they are compressible to a certain extent. Thanks.
@cm165334 жыл бұрын
So how do you tamp these after sweeping in polymeric sand? Will a plate compactor be too much ?
@mk0879vg4 жыл бұрын
Best install video I've seen. Thanks !
@jocookusmusicroom11774 жыл бұрын
Can you use Brock PaverBase when laying flagstone with non-uniform heights?