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@KL-kx5dj
@KL-kx5dj Сағат бұрын
Near the table on the left side, I see an IcePower 1200AS2 amplifier. It seems to be a very interesting module. Could you tell me more about it and compare it to other amplifiers?
@robertfecu9620
@robertfecu9620 3 сағат бұрын
Ahoj, mal by som na Teba otázku, bol by som rád keby si mi na to odpovedal, si skusený tak si myslim že tvoja odpoveď bude mať váhu :) Si počul oba zosilňovače , Normu IPA 140 a aj Audiophonics Purifi D class . Ktorý je lepší alebo ktorý znie pre teba lepšie? Ja mám momentalne zosilňovač od Audiophonics s Eversolo DMP -A8, ktoré pohaňaju B&W 702 S3, a Norma vyzerá na papieri veľmi zaujimavo :) Za skorú odpoveď Ti vopred ďakujem.... A veľa úspechov do ďalšej práce ;)
@carlosroig5315
@carlosroig5315 3 сағат бұрын
Supersonic V2 is my pick.
@rrb_canada
@rrb_canada 5 сағат бұрын
Great comparison! 211 is analytical, not warm. 2A3 is very similar to 300B. 300B was the richer and warmer sound (in my AvantGarde horn speaker, 300B excels in monoblock amplifier), with better attacks (probably due to its output power...). Trick for people finding then mellow: try with silver interconnects (VS only cooper) and Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) Rhodium receptacles.
@Sylvesterwilczynski
@Sylvesterwilczynski 8 сағат бұрын
Unitra brzmi świetnie, Epos wypada jak uniwersalny żołnierz w tym demo. Fajne zestawienie.
@nicovince9972
@nicovince9972 9 сағат бұрын
Hi Greg, I like your channel for your always very informative videos If you hadn't said there were two amplifiers I probably would never have heard a difference, using my modest little SONY wired headphones (MDR EX-650), on my laptop through a decent external USB DAC.
@peterlarkin762
@peterlarkin762 11 сағат бұрын
The current draw on some of these is insane. Many preamp / DAC regulators max out at 500mA and provide power to multiple opamps and other components. The 'Brute Force 1' requires 290mA. Probably worth thoroughly assessing a power circuit's abilities before installing a few of these.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 16 сағат бұрын
Ciekawy projekt! Będę musiał przetestować. PS. mieliśmy okazję uścisnąć sobie ręce na AVS. Pozdrawiam więc ponownie :)
@carlbrown3634
@carlbrown3634 16 сағат бұрын
Very nice! Thanks for sharing.
@boris8682
@boris8682 18 сағат бұрын
Automatically voids original warranty of an amp or any other device, plus risk of over heating or worse. Space Lego gimmicks in this case but Grzesiu has a sense for creativity and marketing :)
@josephkim8707
@josephkim8707 18 сағат бұрын
EPOS is most natural to me. Thank you for your hard work.
@DrummingMan1
@DrummingMan1 20 сағат бұрын
Well now the A10 in the house? When it going to end with this bait and switch!
@everydaylikeasummer
@everydaylikeasummer 21 сағат бұрын
funny to see how you compare devices on song with dynamic range of few dBs, i think any op amp can do it well in 7-8 bit audio resolution
@yongweiwang9362
@yongweiwang9362 22 сағат бұрын
Weiss sound best to me. Lampizator sounds a little too soft compared to Weiss.
@zhengchangming7994
@zhengchangming7994 22 сағат бұрын
For the FOSI ZA3, what are your recommendations for the op amps you've already tested, from low to high? Thanks!
@tofffsymagic1099
@tofffsymagic1099 Күн бұрын
I've just ordered the Hypersonic, curious to compare it with the opamp i prefer until now
@buckaroobonsi555
@buckaroobonsi555 Күн бұрын
I have listened to this video before. I still like Amp B better that said I am not dropping $7000 on an amp. It is not that my credit card will not allow me to do it rather I object on principal alone. Since this is me listening again a few weeks latter I have to say I enjoyed both of them. There where things I liked about both of the amp choices. I can allow myself to purchase two of the ZA3's though! I could get two of the Fosi ZA3's and 4 opamps and have a fantastic sounding amp for a fraction of the price which is win win in my book!
@ewloncctv498
@ewloncctv498 Күн бұрын
С классом "D" это пустые хлопоты.
@boris8682
@boris8682 18 сағат бұрын
Gimmicks. But he has a marketing sense for it. Space Lego opamps. Still gimmicks in this case :)
@buckaroobonsi555
@buckaroobonsi555 Күн бұрын
The V1 reminds me of the Muse 02 only a bit punchier. The V2 was the one that made my ears perk up first. When it switched to the V2 it was so drastic that even across the room I could immediately hear the difference. The V2 reminds me of the really nice sounding Kenwood intergrated amps that where Dual mono internal construction with everything being discreate componets no op amps from 1970's early 1980's. I might like to get 2 of those V2's and 2 hypsonics! The Hypersonic was amazing and that is what I will be ordering for sure. I have a wife and 3 sons and Christmas is awfuly close so might have to wait. I would like to get 4 or more to have on hand but will likely just order 2. I like it all. I like good highs, mids and lows and the ability to be very dynamic and quick when it is required. I like a clarity but not at the cost of texture, sound stage, and warmth. The hypersonic seemed to have it all while still being very balanced. The Brute Force was absolutely incredible sounding!! In the early 1990's I owned a McIntosh tube amp and a set of Sansui Mono Block amps and the Brute Force reminded me of those with a good source that was well mastered and very dynamic. It had it all the highs, lows and mids as well as incredible seperation and sound stage with lots of punch. It made the amp sound like an entirely different amp. I used to run really powerful amps and then only run them in the 1wpc to 20wpc range into very effecient speakers and that is what the Brute Force reminded me of. It was as if the amp suddenly developed more dynamic head room and power. It was hard to believe it was the same speakers and amp! Too bad it is so power hungry and generates so much heat!
@SERKAN_HOT34
@SERKAN_HOT34 Күн бұрын
i'm very curious about your opamps, sparcos labs Muses01,02,03, ss3602, burson audio v7 vivid, burson audio v7 classic pro, are they superior to these high-end opamps?
@paullongtailpair3812
@paullongtailpair3812 Күн бұрын
A decent poweramplifier doesn't need to be controlled by the pre-amplifier, it will listen to it's output signal and amplify it fully faithful and therefore fully transparent with the exception of the power needed to drive the loudspeaker correctly. I don't like your useless products certainly when you scratch of the type numbers of the OpAmps you use as I have seen on your own website. That is a shame in it self and show that none of your customers can trust you and your products. It's a discrase.
@34332
@34332 Күн бұрын
For the YT app. Settings - advanced - switch off stable volume may help a bit.
@kineahora8736
@kineahora8736 Күн бұрын
Hi-so with this parallel arrangement-these have got to draw way more current-so this is approved for DACs and Pre’s but not power amps yes? But wait I am confused--you are using these in power amps (ZA3) not DACs or preamps. Have you tested them with the Fosi V3 monos? Maybe cannot use in the V3 monos because they are already challenged with heat generation/dissipation. What about with the ZD3 DAC? Will the Supersonic V1 or the hypersonic further tame the SABR 9039 "glare" or "sheen"? I am listening on headphones attached to my laptop via Firefox. I can't hear much difference between these --they all sound good. Would be interesting to compare them with the non-parralled version of the op amps, and vs the muses02 and the Sparkos.
@bendzy169
@bendzy169 Күн бұрын
Which exact model op-amps used in 2/4/8 models? 🤔
@fx-studio
@fx-studio 12 сағат бұрын
OPA1612
@Spicycomment1
@Spicycomment1 Күн бұрын
Another idiotfool product... Will read them on forums discovering their CD tracks 😂😂😂
@bendzy169
@bendzy169 Күн бұрын
Would like to test "Hypersonic"in my XD05PRO via dip8 extenders :D very curious how these compare to V7 Burson or Sparkos SS3602 🫣
@tofffsymagic1099
@tofffsymagic1099 Күн бұрын
Same here, order placed!
@eemerr
@eemerr Күн бұрын
for me - A
@audiolife5038
@audiolife5038 Күн бұрын
Would the Hypersonic work in my Zero Zone TPA 3255 AliExpress monoblocks u think?
@ericelmore887
@ericelmore887 Күн бұрын
I’d like to see if you could install one of these op amps into an eversolo and see if there’s an improvement
@PaoloCaminiti
@PaoloCaminiti Күн бұрын
Nice stuff. I'm very inclined to try them but I would need to know which one easily fit in which amp. It would be useful to have the info in the website, for example I have a fosi v3 at hand (in the past I bought some big op amps and had to sent them back cause I could not fit them).
@tofffsymagic1099
@tofffsymagic1099 Күн бұрын
You can test the large opamps without the amplifier covers, if you like their sound just drill a hole in the top of the case to fit them.
@PaoloCaminiti
@PaoloCaminiti 12 сағат бұрын
@@tofffsymagic1099 with these I'd be more worried if the fit horizzontally, the v3 has little capacitors all around the opamp socket
@tofffsymagic1099
@tofffsymagic1099 9 сағат бұрын
@@PaoloCaminiti you probably also need to use a socket extender, the V3 produce a lot of heat, I would drill a hole on the cover to avoid overheating as these opamps run hot
@phillipmorris9847
@phillipmorris9847 Күн бұрын
Your a genius, thank you. I would like to see more about what looks to be some interesting power supplies you have there on my left. This 1 is tough, I'm leaning toward v2 but not sure, i think i would need to hear 15 - 30s clips with time stamps of each to compare.
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 Күн бұрын
i couldn't hear much of a difference. but i didn't download the video and didn't use my Hi-X55 headphone. this reminds me of an elektor low power amp project where they used something about 25 NE5532 op-amps or so as output stage.
@grommie
@grommie Күн бұрын
My dac streamer has a transformator on the output❤
@ropeburn6684
@ropeburn6684 Күн бұрын
So you're telling me, by using 8 opamps to increase the current capability of the whole thing by 8, it's now capable of driving 256 poweramp input stages at once, instead of only 64? 😂😂 Seriously, that's such an exercise in futility. Input stages are so high in input impedance, any bog standard opamp is severely overpowered for the purpose already.
@czuguri
@czuguri Күн бұрын
co za bzdury, litości. Kolejny etap wyciągania kasy od ludzi.
@nicoras8803
@nicoras8803 Күн бұрын
Maybe get a new hi-fi system, what you are hearing is bull. How does a sound become faster, The speed of sound is 344 km/s or do you listen under water. The op=amp cant sound fuller they all the same size filled with plastic. You have no idea what you are talking about. What kind of shit tastes best, dog, human, cat or bird shit. That would be more believable that to trust your ears since your mouth already speaks shit..
@nicoras8803
@nicoras8803 Күн бұрын
You talk so much shit! Why don't you go study some engineering rather than punt this nonsense on line. Typically a power amp has an input impedance of 10k or more, why would you need high current input drive. You are just plain stupid. Now you want to tel us how op-amps has another level of sound. You are just plain stupid.Have you got any idea how many op-amps the signal passes through from your microphone to my speakers, and now you want us to listen to that extra op-amp in the circuit. How dumb are you? You must have studied audiophile from some European backstreet institution? Amongst all those pieces of coloured bubblegum, can you identify which op-amps actually sound the best, there are thousands upon thousands of op-amps from different manufacturers all over the world and especially great faked ones from the East. Which are you promoting, do you have any idea.
@matytinman
@matytinman Күн бұрын
You say that it is better to listen via browser. In my case: W11 optimized for multimedia (reduction of JITTER generated in the CPU: ALU <--> internal registers), Firefox -> JRiver MC 64 bits, which takes control of the audio via WDM driver. Firefox with uBlock Origin to avoid the advertising inserted by KZbin (or free Spotify). The sound from Firefox is better than in Chrome-based browsers.
@ryanchappell5962
@ryanchappell5962 Күн бұрын
This is a pretty cool idea!
@HiFiMods
@HiFiMods Күн бұрын
This is a new product and needs better visualization during sound test. Hyper/SuperSonic V1/V2 means nothing to us when we can’t even see which opamp to relate to and what type/tech it has during sound demo. All we saw was a pretty carousel and names. Just skipped through it as usually…
@HiFiMods
@HiFiMods Күн бұрын
This is a new product and needs better visualization during sound test. Hyper/SuperSonic V1/V2 means nothing to us when we can’t even see which opamp to relate to and what type/tech it has during sound demo. All we saw was a pretty carousel and names. Just skipped through it as usually…
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 Күн бұрын
did you ever heard something about a blind test?
@HiFiMods
@HiFiMods Күн бұрын
@ 😆😆😆👍
@chrisharris1522
@chrisharris1522 Күн бұрын
if you go to his web page it has this video on it and you can listen while checking out each of the products
@maybecrazy7835
@maybecrazy7835 Күн бұрын
I am currently in a noisy cafe so will listen to these later, but I think there's something about appealing to other senses when opamps start getting silly candy colors and shapes. I suspect people will get a preconditioned expectation bias based on looks and subconscious triggering of candy/fruit flavors. This colouring and shaping, if not out of necessity, has no place for internal components and costs extra money as part of design and manufacturing. I can therefore only suspect it's to intentionally play on subconscious bias cues.
@xfloodcasual8124
@xfloodcasual8124 Күн бұрын
its funny the people who are the most worried about bias are often the ones filled with judgements of others that subconsciously shape their view of the world
@peterlarkin762
@peterlarkin762 11 сағат бұрын
Totally true, but it's an industry... gotta make products that stand out visually for marketing purposes. It's up to consumers to make decisions that they're happy with. Problem with audio products is you can't really judge them before you've bought them, and the expectation bias then overrules any real observed qualities or lack of.
@yttean98
@yttean98 Күн бұрын
More transistors in parallel ===> more output current, hence, giving you greater drive to produce the output signal presented to the power amplifier's input stage. The sound output would be more dynamic, ease of sound reproduction. and a fuller sound. Another way is to have a CLASS A transistor or tube output stage, this was done before many years ago, but bulkier. Viewers are conscious that sufficient or ample power in the sound chain produces excellent sound.
@nicoras8803
@nicoras8803 Күн бұрын
Covering the op=amp in catshit rather than old bubblegum is a marked improvement.
@RobWhittlestone
@RobWhittlestone Күн бұрын
Great work, Greg. They all sound good in different ways. Perhaps the 8x was my least favourite. I prefer (without detailed listening) the x2V2 and x4. All the best, Rob in Switzerland
@larsv6144
@larsv6144 Күн бұрын
Please compare to the Sparkolabs SS2590 dual opamp.
@MrSabiso
@MrSabiso Күн бұрын
Hi, can you test the Akliam lc5? I use them in my ZA3 and they sound great to my ears but I dont have other opamps to compare.
@tofffsymagic1099
@tofffsymagic1099 Күн бұрын
Already suggested several times, to date these LC5 are the ones I prefer too, I ordered the Hypersonic to compare them
@DacMaster
@DacMaster Күн бұрын
Hi! I'm glad that this idea, which I tried and made a video for, now has a factory implementation! Did you manage to find out which op-amps are included in parallel in these assemblies?
@tomekstaniak3791
@tomekstaniak3791 Күн бұрын
Did you test them with Fosi v3 mono? what opamps did you use to compare FOSI ZD3 & T+A DAC 200? Did you do it with open case? Pozdrawiam, Detektyw zakupowy ;)
@murraywebster1228
@murraywebster1228 Күн бұрын
I have an Allen&Heath Mod2 mixing desk from 1972, do you think the op-amps would reduce noise and clean up the signal, would love to use the desk as Stem mixer (it has 16 channels with 16 monitor return channels, take off 2 monitor channels for master and in theory I could have a 30 channel audio summing with 16 channels with original CARNHILL Transformers and a simple EQ), I don’t know how many op-amps are on each channel, so do you do bulk discount? (Or be interested in working with me as a joint project?) I think the power supply would need a major upgrade as well then if your op-amps are so hungry 🤭🤭🤭 Where are you based, I’m in Hannover, Germany
@matytinman
@matytinman Күн бұрын
My real-time impressions. Magnat MA 900 (mod) in Direct OFF (JJ 12AT7 preamping). Convolution with brightness at 6.5kHz, +0.3dB, Q=2. KEF Q100 5.25" coaxial (mod) in near field. With Kimber Kabnle 8PR cables, now with 5 mm cotton rope inside (as Danny Richie suggested weeks ago and does with his cables, with similar geometry to Kimber's). 05:29 - Cherry - Hara Noda Super Sonic V2 - the best, more musical 08:29 - Falconeer - Lovren Super Sonic V2 - the best, more musical 10:29 - World Goes By - Houses On the Hill Super Sonic V2 - the best, more musical 13:29 - Love You For It All - Daniel Gunnarsson Super Sonic V2 - the best, more musical 16:29 - Hotel Lalo - Harry Edvino Super Sonic V2 - the best, more musical Super Sonic V2 - 10 points (more bass, highs OK) Super Sonic V1 - 8 points (more highs, too much with your speakers) 👉Hypersonic and Brute Force one - UNREAL SOUND, not credible. It is the same thing I notice in most 24/192 vinyl rips, too much spatiality, not credible, liking it better in 24/96 FLAC 0. Sometimes it is not like that, I have to decide in each rip
@nicoras8803
@nicoras8803 Күн бұрын
Explain what you understand about convolution or is this another word you overheard in the ladies toilet
@matytinman
@matytinman Күн бұрын
@@nicoras8803 It is the best way to equalize the frequency response, especially if it is already very good (KEF Q100 at 30º from the listener, as happens in almost all coaxials: avoid direct focus, 0º). With rePhase I make the minimum adjustments in amplitude and... PHASE, minimizing it. Up to 300-400 Hz our brain does not appreciate the phase change when equalizing, so a PEQ works very well. At higher frequencies we do appreciate it, so it is very convenient to minimize it. rePhase allows you to create the convolution file that you will then import into a good software player such as JRiver Media Center (64 bits better). From the PEQ (included in the JRiver DSP) you can adjust the bass of each channel, the distance of the speakers if you are not in the center of the listening triangle... and effects for when the recording is not of great quality or to play series or movies. The phase or time shift (JITTER), however small, is noticeable by our brain (it was thought not but now we know it is). One of the problems with cheap class D amplifiers, such as the Fosi / TPA3255, is the phase shift starting from 1 kHz. With electronic music we will not notice it but if we listen to quality recordings with real instruments and voices without autotune we will. The new and expensive Hypex, Purifi, Orchard Audio... have reduced this phase deviation to 20 kHz (almost non-existent in class A and AB). Orchard Audio is directly 0 to 20 kHz.