Thanks for the video Ivan. I normally fly and stream VR in X-Plane 12 and use the default Cessna 172 with the REP pack. I also have the CLS-60 and quite happy except for a autopilot issue in X-Plane that is being looked at. I also have bought 2024 Aviator edition of MSFS but quite disappointed with how poorly VR is at this time. Former student pilot with 108 hours in a Cessna 172 so do like how the CLS-60 performs.

Great video Ivan, I'm new to xplane 12 and I have the CLS-60 and I fly in VR. I also have the premium Deluxe edition of MSFS 2024 but xplane 12 is the sim for me now. The physics in xplane 12 is much better than MSFS 24 and with the CLS 60 yoke it's a wining combination. Xplane 12 yoke will move in and out in windy conditions but msfs only does that in take off and landing

Really appreciate the unbiased review. I've been on the fence for a few months on one of these, but really couldn't pull the trigger based on reviews that were "sponsored". I've been sim racing for years and have slowly started building out my flight sims. Thanks again!

Thinking of getting one of these. Disappointed to hear about the trim though, that was one of the main features I was looking forward to. I would've thought that Hardware Trim toggle would move the centring point to simulate the trim. Have you tried it with that on and not using MSFS trim? (So the in-sim trim would always be zero, but you're trimming by moving the centre point of the stick instead)

thanks a lot sir! i couldnt figure out why my touch was interacting with my main display ! i was not even searching this issue but your video showed me how to ! awsome! thanks again!

I fly corporate jets and airliners in the sim. Do I need the 120 or will the 60 do?

I think I finally understand vor now😂

Another great overview, thanks for your hard work!

Thanks for the video. I have a CLS-60 and have had it for a few months now. I still getting used to the 3.0 software but when I look at my trim setting in MSFS 2024 mine are very different than yours to keep it from trying to take off before it is ready to fly. I have my trim set in MSFS at -25% and FFBTools trimpos at 20.06 so am wondering what might be different. I am using Saitek trim wheel so have Software Trim enabled and set at 4 and Hardware Trim set at 0. I only got it to where the stall horn would not go off as soon at I lifted off. Still much more testing to do but it is so much fun. Former student pilot with 108 hours in a real Cessna 172.

I just pulled the trigger on the CLS 120 two days ago and I am trying to wait for the sea shipping to try it out here in the states!

Thanks for the info. I have a CLS-120 still sitting in the box. I’m waiting for the rest of the gear to arrive before I can try it as I’m building an entire sim from scratch. When I’m able to hook it up I’ll certainly be watching this video again as you have some good ideas on the setup. I bought the 120 because it is supposedly a better match for flying larger turboprops and jets. We’ll see.

Very helpful review. Thanks.

Thanks for the video. I also sim race and have wondered for years why there were not more options for flight sim FFB. I'm currently waiting for my CLS-60 to arrive and getting my pit ready. Since you have both, the AB9 and the 120. Which one would you recommend for a first time FFB buyer? I will probably get the AB9 eventually for the rotary sim I'm building, but I heard the CLS-60 software is more refined than Moza's. What are your thoughts? Cheers!

So, in a game with no force feedback support, can this thing be used as a regular stick?

Hi Ivan, I hope you dont mind me asking, but what is the measurement from the bottom of the base to the top of the stick? I've purchase this base and stick, just waiting for it to arrive. Thinking of maybe building a floormounted platform for it, as I don't want it sitting too high on a table mount.

I just don't understand. FFB are signals being sent by game software. An FFB device read those signals and translate it into force. Software that comes with the FFB device can alter the incoming signal like a equalizer can with music. And FFB device does NOT create FFB forces from itself. As long as there is no input, you wont feel force. When certain forces are missing, its not the lack of the FFB device. Its the lack of software not outputting the force. The FFB not responding when on brake with full power means FS 2020 does not create any windflow of the prop over the aircraft. Its a lack of FS 2020, not from MOZA.

Can you help me? i also have the throttle quadrant for xplane12, but the right knob to control the G1000 and the led lights don't work! So far i have never been able to get this to work again and i don't know what to do with it anymore! That's why I was looking for other control panels. thanks in advance

I want to clarify a point about the base. I mention that while putting on full brakes and increasing throttle like you would do in a run up before take off, the elevator does not go up as it does in real life. That's not an issue with the AB9. From an external camera view while applying full brakes and increasing throttle the elevator does not go up, so I think that is an issue with MSFS 2020/24and not the Moza AB9. I continue to love this base.

Hello, great video. Have you ever checked FS2024 if the base is running well in the COCKPIT application of moza? When I log in and configure the controls within FS2024, it appears as "Telemetry service" disconnected. The FFB within the game is appreciated every moment a leap in strength, the rest is very good. Is anyone else wrong with you? Best regards

My fav feature of the flight stack is using the heading knob with autopilot engaged instead of clicking the mouse on the heading button of the G1000 panel. Sit back and fly with one little adjustment knob.

does it work too setting up the G1000 panels on Xplane 12 ?

Hello, i can't see th G1000 same of you in the list off stuff, where did you find it please? and how do you make the title bnar (white) of the popup be masked by the overlay? min uper white border stay visiblr

I can see that in level flight your trim is around -2%, mine is showing around 78% 😮 with the trim around 24% as soon I let go of the joystick will dive with like 2500 feet/min. Do you know what’s is going on? Great video but so far my experience was very poor, I got constant message no telemetry on the main screen, where you have message connected, Moza customer service is replying but unable to help, if somehow I manage to have force feedback even with error, I then get damned effect and some vibrations only. Also every few second kick that will dive the plane. Regardless of the plane or conditions. I think my is faulty, unless you can help me. Thanks ☺️

How did you get MSFS2024 to recognize the AB9? I’ve been pulling my hair out for hours trying to figure it out. Will not show up in my controls settings

Do you know if moza plans on making a Captains version of the MA3X stick?

Bonjour j’ai vue ta vidéo j’ai aussi acheter le moza ab9 je le vois apparaître dans mfs24 mais il n’est reconnu j’ai l’impression hors sur DCS cela fonctionne bien aurai tu rencontré ce problème? Si oui comment as tu fais pour le faire fonctionner salutations

I have this exact base on my channel and I'm in the process of swapping out to VP Force. There is no Force trim because they lack a loopback module for helicopters. No autopilot follow. The VP Force motors are Nema 34 86blf04. I built and engineered a collective which is currently in prototype and will be offering Force feedback systems for Heli that work properly. I also cannot overlook Moza uses part of VP Force code without the explicit permission from Walmis the creator.

Hey, at the Fenix the screens fit the display, nur with FBW or FSLabs they are Pop out the same way but there is a border on left and right so that the content I want to see is not full in the poped out window. Anyone have a idea how to fix this?

Can the stick be configured to act like a non force feedback stick if desired? I’m very tempted. I’m concerned about longevity. My Warthog is 11 years old and aside from some sticking it’s fine. Those Hal effect sensors are great. Thanks.

Thanks for the review. I’m definitely interested in one of these as I can use my Virpil grip and can use still use my existing base for HOSAS left stick. Can you configure the Moza base to just work like a cam type base for space sims?

HE'S BACK!! Great to see you again Ivan and thanks for the update. I've not moved to MSFS24 yet so I'm afraid I can't help. I've invested a lot of time and money into MSFS20 so I'll be waiting until my Addons are updated and the software stabilises.

Just because microsoft made a poop 💩 and charging you money to eat that poop doesnt mean you have to eat it. Whats wrong about 2020 version? 2020 version is way superior than 2024 so just use 2020 and ask for refund for 2024 version.

Stop complaining and use microsoft flight simulator 2020. Why do you wanna use a game that's on beta test right now? Microsoft is scamming people by charging full price for a beta release

I am ok with 2020 despite the hundred bugs wich really bother me and I like X-Plane 12 even more. No need at all for 2024. I can wait.

A suggestion. Get HWInfo64. Free hardware monitor software. And have it record your PC statistics while flying. When a crash happens you can look for thinks like temperature spikes, vram spikes, ram spikes to maybe isolate what is happening. Good luck and I love your channel.

I gave 24 another shot today, I did manage to get 1 flight done with the ini A330. The thrust levers have some kind of glitch where they will spool up without any input from me, and I continuously had to adjust the thrust levers during the flight as they seemed to slip out of symmetry for no reason. I have calibrated them several times so I believe this a bug. I tried a second flight and suddenly my comms failed for no apparent reason, still uncertain why or what caused that. Before the last update I was able to use my stream deck rotary knobs to set the comms channels but since the update I could not. I have not heard of others having these same issues, my guess is that not everyone is going to have identical bugs due to varying system specs etc. I cannot leave a flight without restarting my pc, it just freezes after a full flight. After restarting my pc I had a CTD when trying to start up. I am sticking with the A330 for now and giving my feedback until it gets sorted out. Let’s face it we are all beta testers for MS2024, if we all report our bugs in a positive way we may be able to assist the developers understand what needs attention. I’m sorry that you are having your own issues and not able to really enjoy your flights, I hope that the devs pay attention to your feedback and sort things out.

I had an issue with Pop Out Manager for 2024. I was using it for RSG GNS530 and 430. I had several unexplained crashes that would instantly take me completely out of FS2024. It wouldn't crash my entire system where I had to reboot, but it was a strange issue. Once I disabled Pop Out Manager and manually moved the screens over to the GNS displays, I haven't had a crash since. Do you recall when it started happening? Did it happen with the vanilla install, or after some addon installs? It's strange that your fans ramp up though. It does sound like a hardware problem if that happens. Not sure what video card you use, but do you have another to test with? Also try re-seatiing all your cards and ram. That's all I can think of. Maybe a re-install of 2024 if all else fails. It seems strange that 2024 would be creating a complete system crash though, unless there's incompatibility with some hardware you run? Which I think would be rare. Did you go into Windows Event Viewer Logs to see if there is any info on the crashes? Hope you figure it out. Cheers!

Hi. I’ve been watching the mess that is the msfs 2024 launch and just sticking with 2020 until it sorts itself out. Not being a content creator, it’s a no brainer for me for now. A quick question on the Moza: does the trim work like the trim in a GA aircraft, ie when you trim away the stick force, does the stick stay in its displaced position (rather than move back to a central position)? Is the trim good generally? Does it allow you to hand fly accurately in the sim? Really looking forward to your force feedback videos.

I just tried MSFS 2025 and it's awesome!

I had the exact same problems, crashing to black screens followed by fans ramping up to max and having to restart the computer. It was random, sometimes 15 minutes sometimes 2 hours. One day it happened 4 times. I took my computer into a repair shop and they found there was a problem with my NVME drive and replaced the drive. It has been running flawlessly ever since. This solved my problem.

Thanks Ivan, Ignorance is a huge problem in the world, now I can fly my CIRRUS VISIONJET G2 using touch to control the Garmin G3000.

My fps went down from 40fps to 12fps. How this works for you, same on 2024? Thanks

Thanks for that. You explained it very well.

Hi Ivan, I learned a lot from your videos, thank you! But I have a problem with my MSFS configuration, can you help me? I installed two 10" touch monitors with Air Manager 4, touch configured as you explain in another video and working, Air Maneger working with the G1000, the problem is that MSFS does not recognize the touch. Is there any configuration to be done in the simulator? Any help is welcome, thank you!

How am I getting the same thing since msfs2024 with all helicopters!!😩 Hopefully your fix will work ....

Why 4 degrees with one dot deviation.....? Isn't it 2 degrees per dot?

Very good explination for a new starter.

Hello! I had quite a bit of questions and was hoping to get some answers. This is the first video I’ve seen that has someone had information. I was born with a polar cataract which causes a stigmatism. In one eye corrected I can meet the requirements and in the other I am a few off. I’m wanting to get my commercial license so I can fly for a living. I’m from lake of the ozark Missouri and will be moving back as soon as I exit the military. Any info would be appreciated thank you!

I need help. I clicked start the application in minimized mode in system tray. I did this after only setting up my PFD. Now I want to set up my MFD but the program is locked in the system tray and I can't get back to the screen where you target more screens. Is there a shortcut key to get you back to the settings menu so I can uncheck that preference. I can't find it in the documentation.

Interesting. The problem for me is to get working the panels because i cannot find the right driver for windows 11. No support enough on the webpages. Sorry for my bad english. Cheers from germany;-)