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@senallttam 13 сағат бұрын
Great review as always! Having also owned the Spur and Enduro a couple years ago, and now the new Epic Evo, everything you're saying is exactly how I feel. Specifically with the Spur, I had never raved about and been that blown away by any other bike, and while I absolutely love riding the Epic (hardly touch my Stumpy Evo and Levo anymore), I just don't have the same feeling. Given all the money I just spent on it, I want to be totally head over heels for it and say it's my favorite bike ever, but just as you mentioned, maybe it's just to do with the Spur being an eye-opening experience for short travel bikes at the time, and now I'm just used to it. I feel like the Spur's rear end was a bit more sensitive on the descents at the expense of pedal bob, whereas the Epic Evo feels like a noticeably better (less bobby) climber at the expense of being a bit more harsh going down. I also still think the Spur was the best cornering bike I've ever had, which is what really made me fall in love with it - F/R balance felt perfect in size M, and my body position felt like I was on a mini enduro bike, but with the snappiness of the steeper HTA, shorter wheelbase, and lighter weight. I think the EE also corners very well, but even after trying every different combination with 42/50/55m stems, 20/35mm rise bars, and spacer stacks, I just couldn't replicate the same body position and weight distribution on the descents, so I ended up committing to a more climbing-biased cockpit setup (55mm stem slammed down with 20mm rise bars) and just getting used to the lower front end going downhill. EE to me feels more like a beefy XC / mini trail bike and is definitely my top pick for big days (did my biggest one last month at 67mi/12,800ft), especially with the SWAT box and two bottles inside the triangle, whereas I'd pick the Spur if I just wanted to go out and rip the descents on a really snappy bike.
@RilxVideo 14 сағат бұрын
8:20ish you said I had to focus more on not crashing and less on having fun. Can you recommend a bike that is less nervous and easier to ride that would be more fun? Easier to not crash? Less focus on not crashing? (Newbie) what type of bike would fit that description?
@JeffreyJim09 14 сағат бұрын
@@RilxVideo as a beginner I do feel you’d be happier with a bike that is more forgiving and more versatile - Look for something that has 140-160mm of travel, with tires that have a lot of grip and good brakes. Don’t worry about carbon or aluminum or it being extremely light. Find a bike shop that’ll help you figure out what makes most sense for you and your terrain!
@pacoperez2780 22 сағат бұрын
Great review! I got the same bike with the blue paintwork. How much rise on this handlebar?
@JeffreyJim09 20 сағат бұрын
30mm if memory serves. If I'm honest, I'd go with a 31.8mm bar/stem to give a little more forgiveness to the bike. I just had this larger diameter bar kicking around, so went with that. If I were to go 31.8... My favorite carbon bar is the Enve M9. Alloy Deity Blacklabel.
@pacoperez2780 20 сағат бұрын
@@JeffreyJim09 I’ve done some research :) I can see that this is an enve m7. These come either in 10, 20 or 40 mm. I guess yours is 40 mm. I think that a 31,8 mm would fit better, too. I’m currently riding the Renthal Fatbar Lite with 30 mm rise, but I’m thinking of going up to 40 mm just to get a more relaxed position when pedaling on pavement. It’s still a very racy attack position even with 40 mm I think.
@JeffreyJim09 20 сағат бұрын
@@pacoperez2780 yes - you are right. I agree with going higher.
@pacoperez2780 19 сағат бұрын
… and by the way, your riding skills are amazing 👍
@scottkouns8578 3 күн бұрын
Great video!! Please try the new Scalpel 1st or 2nd level. I just bought the 4th and upgraded the bike to basically a 1 with parts from another bike and upgraded parts. It feels great on easy trails and very fast. I would be very interested in your opinion/review on this bike. I based my bike purchase on reviews. Thanks!
@Coors1974 3 күн бұрын
What about the top fuel?
@JeffreyJim09 3 күн бұрын
The new (G4) is a formidable contender against any bike in the category. The one I had was good, but a touch off in the geometry category compared to the Spur/E8Evo. I'd wager the new one, combined with a very good suspension platform, could be "the one" but alas, I have not ridden it.
@mkrj2576 4 күн бұрын
Wow, your reviews are great. Dig your style. My daily riding duties are split between a Spur and a more trail bike oriented rig. Really like the Spur for the same reasons you state but have been wondering if the Spec might be a whole lot better. Thanks for answering that question. Yeah, the flex stay thing, like you said, it has its own sort of overly damped feeling but if you know what you are getting into with that suspension design i find it not a negative. Sort of adds to the bikes spunky ride quality.
@Intentsrig 4 күн бұрын
I've got a 23 stumpy (non evo). Fox 36 grip X and two wheelsets. Xc wheel set up its around 27llbs maybe less, I cant remember. The geo is great for when things catch me off guard but the bike is light enough for big back country adventures. The new Epic evo 8 evo has interested me but the stumpy is so good I can't justify it lol. No XC races in my future.
@JeffreyJim09 4 күн бұрын
With no XC races in your future, you have a better bike. No question. Thx for checking out the review btw!
@tinshield 4 күн бұрын
Great review
@jakeberner6432 4 күн бұрын
Jeff, this video was SO well done! I ride a lot of the same areas and type of riding. I do like to hit the track a few times a year but spend most of my time on single track. Quick question… I bought the 24 TX and I do love it! (I upgraded the stator btw and that did help a lot) My previous bike was the 2022 XCW and I like the TX better but I do miss the way the XCW handled the slow technical stuff . Since you have owned both and you dropped a tooth up front on the TX do you think that would help me solve that?. Would you also go up one or two on the rear! Gearing makes my head spin a little so any advice there is welcome!
@JeffreyJim09 4 күн бұрын
Hey Jake - Thx for the kind words... 1) Drop one tooth up front. Try that to start. I bet thats all you need to do (13 tooth). 2) One thing that did help the bike become a little more forgiving in the tough stuff was adding a flywheel weight. I'd consider this if I were you - go with the middle option if you decide to do so. LMK how it works!
@JeffreyJim09 4 күн бұрын
@@jakeberner6432 that's the one - the company makes other weights both heavier and lighter. 9 Is perfect.
@JeffreyJim09 9 күн бұрын
Quick update - I added the Cascade Components SJ Evo Link which increases the progression of the bike's suspension linkage and adds ~8mm of travel. Its a neat upgrade but not something that drastically changes the behavior of the bike. I'll update this comment as I continue to test, but thus far I'd probably say skip it. While it does perform as advertised, I'm not convinced more progression is generally a good thing, especially if you are running the stock air suspension and 8mm of travel is pretty hard to notice (especially when that last bit of travel is harder to go through with more progressive kinematics). If you are the type of rider who likes more progression in his/her rear suspension and/or you feel bottom out is a problem its probably the perfect fix. For everyone else, I'd probably spend your money on tires, an o-chain or a cool weekend bike trip somewhere fun!
@Garret1002 15 күн бұрын
13:45 u scared the shit outta the dirt biker lmao
@johnatkins8613 15 күн бұрын
sick review! I'm the same height as you but I chose to size up to an s6. The great thing about the evo is that you can build it to do any specific type of thing you want. I turned mine into an enduro rig. Cascade link, coil, 170 mm front end and dh tires and the thing rips.
@tylerruecker7388 15 күн бұрын
If you have issues with your 36 again I had my csu replaced with and e-bike csu and could not be happier I ride it on my mega tower at 170 with 2 years no creaks feels great.
@Ls-gz2uc 16 күн бұрын
Impressive video.FTW
@RimSaver 18 күн бұрын
Hey Jeff, great review. If you ever want to avoid that wheel maintenance hit us up. That's our goal: reduce the work to keep your bike running and make it easy to do so. I think we are aligned on that. If all companies work towards this we can reduce the pain of bike ownership and grow the sport via keeping newcomers into biking and not pushing them away with those durability rant experiences you mention and we all relate to. My background is a mtb frame design engineer and I want to help make bikes easier to use and live with, starting with wheels/rims. On the frame side of things, if you ever want to dig more into why those creaks happen and why those parts degrade, it's always fun to talk about. Same goes to the other commenters here, always happy to chat bike nerdery and can help to provide some inside the industry engineering perspective. Happy riding! -Ryan
@tinshield 18 күн бұрын
Love my EVO in techy climbs. It's like a grappling hook. Can't agree on the Float X though. I run a Rock Shox SDU and I like it much better.
@mac001texas 18 күн бұрын
Very thorough review, looking forward to future videos
@jeffbrannstrom3387 19 күн бұрын
EXT coil shock not awesome!?!?!? Arghhh. What about if it had a cascade link!? Haha. I guess it’s all personnel preferences but overall bike opinion the same?!
@JeffreyJim09 19 күн бұрын
I actually just ordered the CC link on a whim - lol. Yes, I have a bit of a problem. The EXT was very good at eating bumps and giving me grip but I think the valving package was not suited to what I want from a feel perspective and I absolutely 100000% HATED how noisy that thing is!!
@linus3350 19 күн бұрын
14:45 Is this an alloy stumpy 15? Looks like one.
@mikeanderson2000 18 күн бұрын
I see welds too. Some pros have been spotted riding an Alloy version with cable drivetrains
@robnichols-j1h 19 күн бұрын
Hi Jeff and thank you for such a detailed and informative review... really appreciated your thoughts, having spent a decent amount of time riding the Evo. Would you have any opinions on the whole Carbon vs Alloy debate for frame materials etc? I know not all frames are created equally but wonder if im on the Kool-Aid train and need to get off lol. Im average joe rider, no pro. Also the whole frame size industry thing. Im 5'10.5 and always fall between M/L. Currently have a Transition Spire in a large and do appreciate that forgiveness you talk about but wonder about a Medium in either frame material. I probably should just rung what I brung and not over think but would appreciate any opinions as you have more milage on both types of material. Keep up the awesome content and big love to Tucker.
@JeffreyJim09 19 күн бұрын
Hey dude - I probably will do a full video on carbon vs aluminum being I have a bit of bandwidth to do more content the next few weeks. Overall both materials are good (along with others, like ti and steel). Its all about the application of the material and how good the design engineering is that will dictate "good" vs "not so good" when out on the trail. In generalities, carbon is usually going to be your lightest option, aluminum a significant amount cheaper and usually a lot easier to rapidly iterate on during the prototype phase. As to your overall question, bike fit is going to matter more than frame material. When I'm purchasing a bike, reach is the first thing I consider. However, whenever I'm on the fence I usually look at the rear center of the bike (chainstay). If its on the longer side, I'll error toward the longer size. If its shorter, I'll probably error toward the smaller size. That said, I generally try and run CSs that are 440+ (450 even better!) unless its a XC/gravel/downcountry type of bike. I'd probably keep running the bike you have being its really good, but if you were to go for a new steed, yeah, try going to a medium and see what you think. We humans are better at adapting than we give ourselves credit for!
@robnichols-j1h 19 күн бұрын
@@JeffreyJim09 Thank you for your reply and insights very much appreciated. All the best.
@michaelk.5706 19 күн бұрын
Thumps up for doing reviews after a substantial riding time. Although I don't agree completely that the stumpy evo is a easy bike to do maintainance work on, because of internal cable routing. But that is just another discussion.
@JeffreyJim09 19 күн бұрын
I hear you, but internal cable routing is here to stay whether we want it or not. If you don't care too much about aesthetic, there are a variety of stick on guides that make the internal routing thing less a problem. Check them here jagwire.com/products/small-parts/stick-on-guides - alternatively, there are a myriad of tools out there to help make internal routing much easier. Makes a huge difference!!
@applicablerobot 20 күн бұрын
I don't think the shock side loading is an internet issue. My float x was in the shop from January to May of this year waiting for a damper shaft
@JeffreyJim09 19 күн бұрын
I should have articulated my point more precisely. While side loading is generally detrimental to shock longevity, the assertion that the Stumpjumper significantly compromises shock durability due to side loading is exaggerated. My perspective is informed by a close friend, a former Rockshox rear shock engineer, who had access to warranty rates by bike model. According to the data, the warranty rate for the SJ Evo line was comparable to other models. However, it's worth noting that Fox experienced quality assurance challenges during the COVID-19 pandemic, which led to increased warranty rates across their product lines. Despite the potential issues with side loading, my personal experience has been positive. I've managed approximately 500,000 feet of elevation change on my bike without recurring shock failures, barring an initial warranty replacement likely linked to a QA issue
@Hoseman581 20 күн бұрын
Hell yeah!!! Love your reviews!!!
@mrpachuco696 20 күн бұрын
Oh shit he back !!!
@DandyHippo 20 күн бұрын
Commenting like hell but also if you're looking into Forbidden territory (pun?) the Druid is probably more fun than a Dreadnought. I feel like the Dreadnought works better as an actual race bike and yea you can ride anything on it but it dampens a lot of the easy/med trails. And the Druid can be raced too with decent results so for many the Dreadnought is just a boring overkill to put in a nasty way haha
@DandyHippo 20 күн бұрын
Why would you like to upgrade to Mavens instead of Hayes Dominion A4 or Hope? Is it just a brand thing. Love a code rsc and Dot in general, Magura MT7 though is rly nice pull but I prefer modulation over bite. Sometimes lock my front in turns a bit because bot used to "shimano" type brakes
@JeffreyJim09 20 күн бұрын
Good question - I'm very impressed with the Magura MT7s but hate the closeness of the pad to the rotor, takes a bit more fiddling which I don't love. Hope should have been mentioned, and I'd 100% go with the Tech 4 V4 in a heartbeat. The Maven is relatively cheap (Bronze) and easy to find pads/parts for, hence why they are atop my list ATM. I won't go to Hayes only because the pads rattle. If noise didn't bother me, they'd be on the list too. If you are wondering, here is my bible of sorts for brakes. enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
@DandyHippo 20 күн бұрын
@@JeffreyJim09 cheers 🤙🏽 I have mixed opinion of Dominions, havent tried yet but will probably be my next brake because I think the pull is lighter than Hope, which I've tried and the power is insane. What bothers me is half the internet says they have multiple problems with Dominions on the bleed and qc related issues, other half says it works perfect. And when it comes to brakes I prefer the least possible hassle
@DandyHippo 20 күн бұрын
@@JeffreyJim09 also noticed a lack of power on mt7 when they heat up, which doesnt happen on any of the srams. So there rly are not many upsides to mineral for me. But the pull on mt7:s is insanely light
@DandyHippo 20 күн бұрын
One thing thats basically missing from all reviews is turn feel and overall feel explained in depth. For instance almost all bikes now have an okay suspension platform, brakes, wheel etc. But for example a current Turbo Levo has a turn that doesnt allow you to lean the bike for some reason. Feels like crap. A 2017 turbo levo, very agile and its not just the wheel size. Also feel between frames, and diff forks is rarely discussed. All the things I would have liked to know when I started no one talks about. For instance running a lyrik vs. Zeb is an insane difference in how the bike feels (weight, rigidity) when not talking just about pure compression or bump eating ability. Canyons except Torque turn strange for me. All Propain bike feel good. All Scott bikes feel agile and active. So many differences in "character" and we're stuck talking about the same things you can see from the geo chart. Just ranting, great review bro.
@janeblogs324 19 күн бұрын
Well 44mm vs 51mm fork offset will alter the turn in. While the later will feel like light steering and nice when riding no handed it's more suited to xc or inactive riders
@justsayin3600 18 күн бұрын
I have a 23 Stumpy Evo running in mixed wheel. I have quite a few mods that makes it perfect for what I ride. It's been referred to as a Frankenstein bike. I'm a 210lb rider. I'm running it slacked and long, EXT E-Storia, Fox Factory 38 E-Tuned at 170mm, WRP yoke, Cascade link, 5Dev cranks @155mm. The stock 36 and Fox float X were underwhelming.
@winters3 21 күн бұрын
15:47 nice deer
@JeffreyJim09 20 күн бұрын
Dude! Great eyes. That footage was from yesterday and I didn't catch it in the editing process or while riding. LOL.
@winters3 19 күн бұрын
@@JeffreyJim09 first i thinked:thats a decoy :D - btw I'll just get a stumpjumper evo , I got a great deal for the sworks frame (2k$). i'll ride it with "flightattend" ZEB & Vivid. aming for a one bike does it all. I do alot of bikepark in swiss/italy/austrien alps but as well normal pedal stuff
@roddas26 21 күн бұрын
Honestly one of the best review's of this bike I've seen. And found myself in agreement with pretty much everthing else you said. Especially the 31.8 situation. Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
@JeffreyJim09 20 күн бұрын
I think the 31.8mm situation is a good lens into how a lot of the bike industry (and other industries) work. Product managers have an idea and it can be hard to parse performance from placebo. Back when 35mm was all the rage, we were really riding the "stiffer = better" wave. Now we see companies doing crazy things to bring compliance back into a bike, and we all recognize the importance of flex. What is so interesting to me is even the simple bicycle showcases just how complex an interaction between man/machine really is, and how difficult it can be to ensure you are asking the right questions with respect to performance. Anyway - thx for watching. Cheers dude.
@petedog9581 21 күн бұрын
Spesh slimmed the Stumpy lineup to save on costs in both production and R&D going forward. Also, there are plenty of 2023's still in boxes on the shelves. Great breakdown. I have been on Stumpjumpers and Enduros for 20+ years. I just switched to a 2023 Rocky Mountain Instinct carbon, and I am really impressed. The rear end is much stiffer than any Spesh I have owned. I always felt Spesh's FSR linkage straddling the seat tube to be a sort of squirmy and loose in the rough. I have busted many a seat stay pivot bolt over the years. I bought the Instinct for $2800 w full Deore group set, Marzocchi Z2 Rail 150/Fox DPS 140mm. It weighs 34 lbs. with enduro pedals and 15oz Fidlock water bottle. I really didn't need the bike but i couldn't pass on that deal. Cheers and great riding.
@JeffreyJim09 20 күн бұрын
Thx for the comment - I had a bit where I speculated on this exact topic but cut it from final being I had already hit the twenty (!!!) minute mark. Like most of the big brands, Specialized had (err...has) too many models in too many colorways and too many builds which ultimately leads to margin reductions and buyer paralysis.
@parkinkevin 21 күн бұрын
Great review 👍
@JeffreyJim09 20 күн бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@peterhaworth6859 21 күн бұрын
Love your review style man👌
@winters3 20 күн бұрын
@@peterhaworth6859 first I thinkef it was decoy 😂
@johnmccool6875 22 күн бұрын
how far can that dog run???? he's so fast
@JeffreyJim09 22 күн бұрын
@@johnmccool6875 he’s 11 and routinely does 15 miles
@luismahieu 29 күн бұрын
crazy drone footage
@wyattjl Ай бұрын
Awesome job on this review. You nailed it.
@mkrj2576 Ай бұрын
Really dig your review. Just built up a Spur frame and its biggest plus is how this bike corners - wow. I’m liking the bike so much I’m considering a Smuggler to replace my well worn Trance. I’d hope it also has that magic cornering ability but just with more suspension. The Spur can get a bit chattery in the chop.
@JeffreyJim09 Ай бұрын
Thx! The Smuggler would be a great Trance replacement.
@QuentinRibierre Ай бұрын
Happy owner of the smuggler here, considering overforking it. Did you end up trying to run it with a 150 or 160 fork? Do you have thoughts? (Thanks for the amazing review, definitely helped me when I was shopping for this bike)
@JeffreyJim09 Ай бұрын
I ran a 160mm fork. It rode totally fine and wouldn't hesitate to do it again, but its not for everyone. You do shorten the reach, slacken the HTA and raise the BB. Is it enough to matter? Probably not, but its worth noting.
@urielgonzalez9916 2 ай бұрын
Great review
@dirkdiggler6230 2 ай бұрын
how long can you go on those seat before getting piles?
@lifebehindbars8750 2 ай бұрын
Love the Reserve 30HDs on my Bronson. They were a £600 upgrade over stock when I bought it and they’re incredible. I started breaking spokes a few months in and not only did Reserve send me a new wheel within 24hrs but upgraded the hub to a Hydra free of charge. So impressed with both performance and warranty that I’ve specced the 30/31 E-MX wheelset on the Heckler that I’ve just ordered.
@avidimprover1286 3 ай бұрын
Literally amazing review, you killed it brother! just got into riding again, bought a gasgas 250 and im leaning more towards enduro! you're killer on bikes man i would love to ride like this
@johnnywallace8123 3 ай бұрын
Great video, have you ever out performed the dog?
@coreymtb 3 ай бұрын
Solid riding!
@bmc664 4 ай бұрын
great review. torn between this 300 or 350 for hare scrambles and pure fun non comp trail/mx track fun.
@adamthiemann3084 4 ай бұрын
Love everything about this!!!!!
@SierraSn0w 4 ай бұрын
Great review and impressive riding! 🐶
@madsoothsayer 4 ай бұрын
Fabulous review!
@JackTruitt 5 ай бұрын
you should try a pind rail brace with their coupler, helps keep the wheelies down if thats what you want to do
@MXJEFF94 5 ай бұрын
I'm a dirt bike SNOB and know a ton about mechanics...that was the best review I have ever seen on KZbin...well thought out/ explained. WELL DONE MY MAN!!
@JeffreyJim09 5 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks man
@shawnh2590 5 ай бұрын
Hey buddy great review! But I must say I’m surprised with your choice of the cross country version for the type of riding you do. I would think that you would just go with the TE or XC-W platform seems like that would alleviate a lot of the issues you were having with your TX. Is there any particular reason that you chose the cross country version over the other?
@JeffreyJim09 5 ай бұрын
Yes! Simply, the XC-W and TE were not out in TBI configuration at the point I purchased this bike. That said, I'm still not sure I'd go TE or XC-W due to the way the motor has been detuned (but I'd likely try it). Unlike the past, the transmission is the same on the TX as it is TE, too. With the way my bike is setup, its really not too different than the TE...