Well explained and it very effectively in times of penetrating opponent defense and creating easy targets

As an older WC brother once said after losing a tooth “ You didn’t hit me, I missed my block!”

If you can’t pak it fook it

how is this competition? chi sau a training drill

What is the goal? What are the rules? I don't really understand what they're doing???

wish they were fighting for real not this shit

If I was that black guy a student of och I would have stopped about 1 minute in and asked that little guy do you want to spar? Let's wait till this chi sao practice is over and we can fight because chi sao isn't fighting. Ideally if one has way more skill that that guy you can just control him and keep trapping his hands up so he's helpless but you need the skill level of sifu och then.

Just let them fucking fight. This is retarded.

What a joke

Wing Chun as anything needs to evolve and this is answer Wing Chun cannot sparred like other combat sports as it’s not a sport but from what I can see here is that it can be sparred or at least pressured in a positive manner

I dont think the shorter guy knows how to do chi sou

This is completely terrible

This is the exact problem I was having. The time I did make contact either was off the lead hook as a feint or if I missed the shot come back in with a back fist. This guard is in a cross guard like position and then shoot it from there? Hmm 🤔 thank you Sifu

But again, this are drills, after the first punch the defender hands go down. Since you guys have protection and boxing gloves why don't you do live sparring using those technics? Cheers.

Are we serious? This is still a thing? You take one aspect of a fighting art and make it a competition? That's like having a Karate sparring competition limited to only side kicks. If nothing else, these Chi Sao competitions reveal the irresponsible and reckless arrogance of Wing Chun practitioners. The simply act of signing up for this event is a shame! Keep embarrassing the art, thanks a lot! *** If you want to have an accurate Chi Sao competition, the approach should be the measure and judging of how effective Chi Sao and ALL its aspects used to successfully overwhelm an opponent in a real fight is carried out. This would be analogous to competitors in MMA who, let's say, fear a fighter for her/his ground game, therefore trying their best to avoid going to the ground. In this case however, you're awarded no prize for hopping around foolishly at a distance all day -point being, you MUST engage. ***

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Shows this crap will never ever work in a real fight under pressure never.

I found you Channel because Izzo made a video. Great. Kindly regards from Germany from one Wing Chun Brother to an other. Unfortunately my channel is a german speaking one. Have a good christmas time. Dom

i would love to learn this style but im to far away ...in europe 😅

LoL 'competitive' chi sao? What a complete waste of time.

Awesome

The guy in red is hitting the target and not chasing the hands.

Don’t chase the hands. Strike at disengagement. Hands should be center seeking. Apply forward pressure when rolling will make the hands spring loaded to strike when the opponent disengages.

Where’s the foot work and kicking?

Wtf

nice

I think both did good. I really dont like the referee tho, whoever he is. Let the men breathe and be free, without stopping them 4 seconds in. And then giving them multiple verbal warnings. When you are sparring with like 20 other people around and in a “competition” setting .. of course “ego” is going to get involved.. accidental or unintentional tension or strain. “Pushing, shoving, grabbing, ‘whatever’” … if it were a more private and non-competitive (winner and loser) environment then Id agree with the bullshit the ref is spewing. Id like to see him doing some “chi sao”/“sparring” with an audience keeping score and him not stiffening up and inevitably using a little bit of force with force. JUST LET THEM FIGHT, or spar, chi sao … I am a Wing Chun practitioner and i cant stand “controlled-settings” like this. … where you gotta say sorry for accidents and having the referee breathing down your neck and on your conscience. Just let them chi sao for God’s sake. And the whole nature of “start rolling” for 4 seconds and then GO! Is trash. All that does is inspire them to clash force with force to begin with.. why not just start off Rolling hands WITHOUT the ref having to say “Go” .. where the hell is the sensitivity of just “deciding” when to go OFF OF FEELING … not “ready, set, GO!!” This is why Wing Chun has such a bad rep. And chi sao isnt the Only way to develop skill, nor is it even always the Best way. These are grown men, not little boys. Let them make more contact and when things get out of hand THEN break it up and give warnings. That ref has probably never been in a Real fight in his life. Good match tho between the two Wing Chun practitioners. Sad they couldnt even freely express themselves 🥱🤷🏾‍♂️

They are one reason why many are making fun of this wonderful system. Stop this Bullshit...

How is it I have never heard of your channel till now? Great comprehension, and application of wing chun.

I thought modern wing chun did not do Forms?

This looks like a really good school to train at.

What an awesome video. Looks like a good place to train. My sifu teaches in the same manner. Would love to visit this school.

Great way to spend time away from Wing Chun training©️2023

Great school and great instructor. Very patient with new students.

You aren't attacking the centerline??

If there is a break in contact that was not a strike, they should be reset. If they need to be reset more than three times in a row, the match is over and neither fighter wins. It is a draw. Otherwise, this is just sparring. Most of the time, I would say that even during a strike, contact still needs to be there, but there are techniques that trap that will, of course, make that impossible. 3 or more consecutive unanswered hits or a break in contact. Those stop the action. Also, being pushed off your base past a very small square "ring's" edges. I would say in Chi Sao that you should score points for successfully taking points in hits or unbalancing your opponent to the point that they cannot control their base any longer (a throw, reap, trap of the leg coupled with a centerline shove, for example).

Might as well just put on some gear and do some heavy sparring.

What should I do when the other person grabs me by the collar and lifts me up? Do you want me to send you my video?

I've judged wing chunk numerous times at USKSF nationals, chi sao to me is an absolutely useless exercise. It quickly becomes a bitch slapping contest. I've have been doing tai chi (chen and yang) and push hands has become almost as bad if not in some cases worse. Tournaments anymore are the bane of chinese martial arts. I see 720 crescent kicks in praying mantis (northern), xingyi is becoming taekwondo with high kicks in forms which are anathema to the spirit of my beloved first internal art. Ba Gua Zhang is practically becoming ballet. I have 48 total years in martial arts with the last 30 in chinese internal arts. I bet Yang Lu Chan, Chen Chang Xing, Kuo Yun Shen and Dong Hai Chuan would fall on their swords if they saw the level to which CMA has fallen. Even Le Tai has become a bitch slap fest.

so what are the rules here? I see a lot of opportunities for strikes that they aren't taking, and when they make contact, a lot of it has no drive with the rest of the body, except sometimes to the elbows which is the one good thing about the exchange.

What were the rules here?

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Awesome! 😊

Nice😊

Why are you wearing that hat during class? Hats off when you enter the gym...

What is that pull counter💀

It's basically if you take good technique of muay thai and make it stupid

Just realizing I used to go there and just left one day and never came back 😂

Wing Chun is superior but I love all martial arts in general. This is a great example of application. Fighting in general is very sloppy and these tools can help you get out of conflict. Great video and Sifu your Wing Chun seems to have a kick boxing feel to it, IMO. I am a former Sihing in 11 systems BTW.

To bad this don’t work in a real mma fight. Looks good in the movies tho..