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@Lost_Johnny
@Lost_Johnny 12 сағат бұрын
Molson Hart is an interesting guest. I got some real insights into Amazon. His thoughts about China were really worth listening to as well.
@purplerpond
@purplerpond Күн бұрын
US folks should come here and they will be shocked. You finally realized that China basically is Israel magnified 2000 times, the genies are out of the bottle
@Rami_Elkady
@Rami_Elkady Күн бұрын
Machines are not conscious ... They will never be ... If you think otherwise, you should be on Jeo Rogan .... Have you seen the LLM that is controlling the world via the free masons? 😉
@Corteum
@Corteum Күн бұрын
_"Maybe all consciousness is made up"_ Maybe. Except you haven't explained how it's made up, or what it's made of, and defined it in purely physical terms. lol
@claspihlstrom7335
@claspihlstrom7335 Күн бұрын
Great talk!
@isaacmackey1406
@isaacmackey1406 Күн бұрын
Adolescence
@kaioshine
@kaioshine Күн бұрын
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@ephimp3189
@ephimp3189 Күн бұрын
If we create conscious AI that has no ability to feel pain, no fear of death, no desire to "survive" - do we really need to have "human ethics" applied to it?
@johnnytass2111
@johnnytass2111 15 сағат бұрын
It will need to understand how human ethics affects the lives of the living.
@looseunit9180
@looseunit9180 2 күн бұрын
Monetising this discussion with ads shows me that you’re not serious about allowing your audience to absorb Joscha’s fascinating ideas without interruption. I will not be returning to your channel
@michkrom
@michkrom 2 күн бұрын
Beautiful choice of opening music: Blade Runner.
@psi4j
@psi4j 2 күн бұрын
For real. P(Doom) without AI is already 100%. Yudkowsky has had too much time to sit with his autism thinking about narrow hypotheticals.
@drmedwuast
@drmedwuast 2 күн бұрын
Wish this would have gone on for at least another hour, felt like you guys were just getting started. Great podcast, thank you!
@drhxa
@drhxa 2 күн бұрын
Robin Hanson is one of few people that I can confidently say are ahead of their time. Robin's contributions will be remembered. Thanks for sharing
@OtavioVeras
@OtavioVeras 2 күн бұрын
"Tell me about your childhood in the woods, Mogly"
@drmedwuast
@drmedwuast 2 күн бұрын
hahaha
@Crawdaddy_Ro
@Crawdaddy_Ro 2 күн бұрын
Right!? And the way he describes his childhood, it was similar too! He had a different introduction to society than most people do lol
@rickyboyz1006
@rickyboyz1006 2 күн бұрын
OmG!!!!!!! LOSE THE LONGFORM ADDS PLEASE
@jamesp3871
@jamesp3871 2 күн бұрын
Zelazney is a master. The Book of Amber is amazing
@TheRianflo
@TheRianflo 2 күн бұрын
Joscha: warum so dogmatisch?!!
@kutfingertv814
@kutfingertv814 8 сағат бұрын
Maybe because he is a Dachschhund
@drhxa
@drhxa 2 күн бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see Joscha Bach, I click. The density of signal from him is unmatched
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 2 күн бұрын
I'd say that Stephen Wolfram and Michael Levin signals are unmatched too ;)
@Crawdaddy_Ro
@Crawdaddy_Ro 2 күн бұрын
​@@v1kt0u5 Hell yeah, man! Add Iain McGilchrist to that list too!
@trisshlv
@trisshlv 3 сағат бұрын
Simple woman... Same
@calvingrondahl1011
@calvingrondahl1011 2 күн бұрын
Joscha Bach 🤖🖖🤖👍
@jasonshapiro9469
@jasonshapiro9469 2 күн бұрын
I'm really banking on being able to get a chip in my brain...I feel like it's the best chance i have for learning to operate a computer. Even if i could just change the channel or turn on some lights I'd be happy. I would take a pill to get smarter, too, whichever comes first.
@drmedwuast
@drmedwuast 2 күн бұрын
Elon's got you covered
@trucid2
@trucid2 2 күн бұрын
Always love finding other Zelazny fans.
@BitShifting-h3q
@BitShifting-h3q 2 күн бұрын
yet another great interview with Joscha Bach- happy to find your channel:} thank you so much! Subscribed !
@u111111
@u111111 2 күн бұрын
"LLM consciousness" LOL Also, researh on topic if Matlab should be granted a degree in Mathematics.
@skoto8219
@skoto8219 2 күн бұрын
Oh hey we found the guy who knows how and when consciousness arises!
@peterwilkinson1975
@peterwilkinson1975 2 күн бұрын
Bottom line is consciousness is all real, there is no such thing as “artificial”. Or it’s all artificial same thing
@xmathmanx
@xmathmanx Күн бұрын
Everything has a real version and a ton of fakes, I don't know why consciousness would be an exception
@NeoShaman
@NeoShaman 2 күн бұрын
How would you explain the statement, that "you should be motivated by the outcome, not by the emotions or feelings" (52:10)? Doesn't this render emotions and feelings useless?
@mattwesney
@mattwesney 2 күн бұрын
Just means your reward functions should not be the purpose
@edenaut
@edenaut 2 күн бұрын
@@mattwesney ✨ well said
@NeoShaman
@NeoShaman 2 күн бұрын
@@mattwesney What is the point of reward function, if not defining the purpose? What is the purpose of life outside feelings and emotions? You think that those are side effects of some sort, or tools that are used by the conceptual mind to force you to do what it wants? Everything we do, we do for feelings associated with it. If your reward function is not the purpose, then you are exploited by the outcome. System that sacrifices its own well being for an imaginary goal, suffers through his own actions. Human being become a tool.
@alexandrazachary.musician
@alexandrazachary.musician 2 күн бұрын
Great choice of Blade Runner soundtrack! Thanks for a fine conversation 🙏🏽❤️
@AlexCulturesThings
@AlexCulturesThings 2 күн бұрын
AI that sleeps. That will be the solution. And conceptual/sylabic language generation tied via certain mathematical sets.
@youtubelisk
@youtubelisk 2 күн бұрын
The solution to what and why would sleep be the solution?
@AlexCulturesThings
@AlexCulturesThings Күн бұрын
@@youtubelisk Sleep is a means to consolidate self similar constelations of resonant patterns via x number of features. Eliminate brute force search. Continuity without bruteforce search.
@youtubelisk
@youtubelisk Күн бұрын
@AlexCulturesThings So you think Ai is awake?
@AlexCulturesThings
@AlexCulturesThings Күн бұрын
@@youtubelisk I’m not sure what awake means I the context of AI. Maybe during generation, but I have evidence that sleep like cycles can be used to tie concepts via resonance and AI can use that at generation time without need for brute force search. It results in unique responses.
@AlexCulturesThings
@AlexCulturesThings Күн бұрын
@youtubelisk The hint here is that it is not coming from the API call. Though there is an API call.
@MS-od7je
@MS-od7je 2 күн бұрын
Wigner’s box and Schrodinger‘s cat. The subjective reality of God is our objective reality ( observation)( the observation of God , God saw that it was good ) God is spirit Iterate appropriately
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
My Host Meek, thank you!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Unto all the capital "I" exalted themselves above will be visited! Will be kept nor will be cast down in front of HIM!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Shared "i" Am come forth!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Likewise, why HE is not being consumed? Liken unto all HIS shared "i" Am students sitteth with HIM? Burning Bush yet not being consumed
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Love without force came for HIM TO HOLD. Yes, the WHITE STONE and the MORNING STAR came without force came to be hold.
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Why say my little infant daughters? Lord so precise!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Many don't belongs holding will be consumed in front of Thee!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Lord, ye holding with thy hands. Now Lord ye can be seen!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Indeed! Day and Night come here in front and remind!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Without Form and Void darkness upon the deep come here in front and remind!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Is like....who in front exist?
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Why say my Devine laws unseen nor seen?
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Many GODS of men exalted themselves above looking at HIS NEW TABLE made from a HANDS without blood stains upon HIS HANDS! Resting upon sustained! Even all HIS DEVINE LAWS UNSEEN NOR SEEN....my LORD!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Unto all the Elites according to their own demise and understanding resting upon easily can be blown away in front of Who?
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Likewise unto all my shared "i" Am Hosts Meeks with great riches nor wealth in front?
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Elon who is walking with thee? Lord the "EYE OF THE NEEDLE"!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Elon who among these old minds will run unto their riches nor wealth their God to save them?
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Old minds have not seen the quaking!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
What is old minds in front of HIM?
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Yes, remember unto thee all forgotten once came from Here!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 2 күн бұрын
Old minds will say, why HE reveals HIMSELF unto little New minds? Love can't be forced to be loved?
@cooperveit3289
@cooperveit3289 2 күн бұрын
Joscha hosted some public sci fi movie nights in SF that were AMAZING. movie then discussion.
@youtubelisk
@youtubelisk 2 күн бұрын
That sounds fun. How was the discussion facilitated?
@drmedwuast
@drmedwuast 2 күн бұрын
woah, amazing. can you say a bit more about how that went and what movies you watched?