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@aliciamoralesalonso
@aliciamoralesalonso Күн бұрын
This film was like a parody wrote and conducted by Sacha Baron Cohen 😂😂😂😂
@jesselp50
@jesselp50 2 күн бұрын
I always loved Heaven's Gate (the long version), the only movie I've ever watched with an intermission ha ha
@alinvid6098
@alinvid6098 8 күн бұрын
This is the stupidest "Horror" movie I have ever seen 😂😂😂 Quick question: "What do you do when a strange pencil neck satanist bothers you and your daughter ( If you are the mother of the would be cop in the movie ) ? Option A: You let him sing his freaky shitty song then let him get into the house and tie you up Option B: You sick the fcking dogs on him. Well obviously it's option B 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This movie is just fcking ridiculous and not scary at all it is so fcking rdiculous it is funny ! How the actual Fck can people find Longlegs to be scary is fcking beyond me ! 😂😂😂 It is literally the worst "Horror" movie I ever had the miserable misfortune to see but wait... ! There is still Nosferatu 2025 witch is in second spot. This is the future of horror movies ? We are doomed ! Btw I just discovered your channels and I like your no bs reviews ! Subscribed my dude 🙂 !
@carlcosta5
@carlcosta5 9 күн бұрын
You forgot Thunder bolt and Lightfoot one of his best
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 8 күн бұрын
Would take a 6th spot no doubt about it
@FrankJCarver
@FrankJCarver 8 күн бұрын
I was going to mention that movie, but I think George Kennedy stole that movie. He was great in it.
@JohnnyJohnny-f5o
@JohnnyJohnny-f5o 9 күн бұрын
Everyone saying the acting was top notch needs their heads examined. It honestly felt like a parody in the style of Scary Movie. I burst out laughing several times when the actors were trying so hard to do their best scary voices. Orlok's voice sounds like my dad trying to sound scary while chasing the laughing grandkids around.
10 күн бұрын
Fantastic list. Any thoughts on Breezy?
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 9 күн бұрын
Thanks! Haven't seen it. Any good?
@yahu5988
@yahu5988 10 күн бұрын
worst movie of 2024?
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 10 күн бұрын
I mean there's "Joker: Folie À Deux" and "Emilia Perez"...but it's close
@oscarhernandez2779
@oscarhernandez2779 12 күн бұрын
Good video. A little arrogant and annoying, and a lot of true things. The acting wasnt as bad as the script. Actors can be better when they all clearly understand why they go from one emotion to another, but in this, its all “script says we need drama!” A lot of things people complain about, some of which you complain about in this video, like the moustache, are really due to other things not being in place, but since the moustache is the easiest people jump on that. However, this is the worst thing from your video: “Im not trying to be a contrarian. It would be extremely easy to jump on this bandwagon and collect some goodwill likes and followers. But Im not about that.” Then stay true to your word in the comments instead of being a total hypocrite. Saying all these things about the movie (which are mostly true) then in the comments saying “Hey, you liked the movie? Thats great! Im really glad you shared your delusional opinion!” Is so fake and hypocritical. You wouldnt say those things in the video, so why do that in the comments? Unless youre “not about that”… “Die of boredom or holster up my guns” is a quote that should be saved for someone who wont turn tail as soon as the tide comes in. Why lie? Be as brave in the comments as you are in the video and tell people theyre wrong instead of getting scared and only in the comments saying “Movies are subjective. I really fake-like your wrong opinion.” If movies are subjective why make a whole video explaining precisely the opposite? Time to actually “be” “about that.”
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 12 күн бұрын
A little arrogant and annoying - That's me! Thanks for the support
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 12 күн бұрын
I appreciate the sincerity but the reason behind the brief and compromising answers is not to feed the trolls. I know...I should...Good for views and whatnot but I just don't have the patience to argue online anymore, haha. Maybe I'll resurrect that in moderation
@oscarhernandez2779
@oscarhernandez2779 12 күн бұрын
I always see this expression, “I appreciate,” but it doesnt mean anything anymore. They say, “I appreciate, but.” Its the same as, “That was pretty cool, BUT it also sucked!” Its either one or the other, broskie. 🍺 If you appreciate sincerity, it means you want to be sincere yourself. If you dont really want that, then you dont really appreciate it. “I know… I should.” If you want to stop being a hypocrite, yes.
@waddewel
@waddewel 12 күн бұрын
Im looking at this vid while still watching the movie.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 12 күн бұрын
It's not just because I made it...but this video is way better than Eggers' movie
@brettsinger9565
@brettsinger9565 13 күн бұрын
Cimino taught United Artists how to play financial Russian roulette with Heaven's Gate.
@joseaguas5846
@joseaguas5846 15 күн бұрын
Desilusão mas desilusão. Concordo com a critica. O pessoal que nasceu á 15 segundos e fica entusiasmado com o simples brilho do sol, que vá ver as versões para trás do Nosferatu e pode ser que entendam o escusado deste filme ter sido feito. Nos dias de hoje, lamento, mas já não basta dizer que um filme está bem executado ou tem bom ambiente, quando não é original no seu argumento.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 15 күн бұрын
Começam a surgir as vozes que não gostaram deste filme. Acho que há alguma originalidade - uso o termo num sentido bastante vago e como uma descrição do "estilo" do realizador - mas que não acrescenta nada
@joseaguas5846
@joseaguas5846 15 күн бұрын
@vinylncelluloid eu sei que o Pedro não é fã do Farol mas caramba pelo menos esse é um filme com uma visão do Eggers, e eu pelo menos gostei da viagem, agora aqui no Nosferatu foi de facto secante não de duração, mas não me estava a estimular em nada mesmo enquanto espectador ... enfim, foi sem dúvida a primeira desilusão deste ano. Continua com com as tuas opiniões que é necessário nos dias de hoje espíritos críticos.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 15 күн бұрын
@joseaguas5846 Grato pelas palavras
@Naginc
@Naginc 20 күн бұрын
This movie was horrible. From the directing..to the lead actress...to the convoluted Dracula/Bram Stoker mushed plot. Its horrific..but not in a good way. Bro...Dude..People started walking out and hour before it ended. And this was on opening day. What offended me was copying Francis Coppola's iteration with no innovation. Gary Oldmans masterful job the wheezing of Dracula, the shadow that can shut doors, that offended me because the movie was bad. They then copied parts of the Dracula novel, which Nosferatu predates. The writing was so bad to where the "van helsing" character never kearns anything about Orlok. They never know what he is or was. Lastly the forced role of the main actress was just weird. It was goofy things like her knowing when horses pull up because every since se was kid she just knew "things". I was so sick, i waited like everyone and had high hopes someone would knock the 1991 Bram's Stokers off..well..its 2025 and it still hasnt happened.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 20 күн бұрын
2000% agree with you. But don't let the Eggerites catch you say that. They are merciless 😆
@TwinCitiesOxygen
@TwinCitiesOxygen 17 күн бұрын
The 91 movie was also not great, but at least had better characters development than this. Hated the 91 “love story.”
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 17 күн бұрын
@@TwinCitiesOxygen Yes, there are some issues with Coppola's title. Keanu Reeves accent for one
@glascala105
@glascala105 20 күн бұрын
Just watched it. Awful. Just awful. Almost as bad as his movie The Lighthouse.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 20 күн бұрын
At leas The Lighthouse gave us some decent memes
@shaharm2898
@shaharm2898 20 күн бұрын
Ari Aster may be in the pantheon of overrated directors, but Hereditary is honestly amazing.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 20 күн бұрын
I never could get into that movie
@ryman1933
@ryman1933 20 күн бұрын
I nearly fell asleep the last hour. Have not been so bored at a movie in a long time. Only good scenes were the castle scenes cause they at least had some tension. Also, what was with the sexualized seizures, or when she randomly says how the vampire is better in bed than her husband so he.... just goes for it? Like aggressively and suddenly out of nowhere. Like was he already hard and ready to go for some reason? Who thought this movie was a good idea lol
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 20 күн бұрын
I believe it's a direct homage to "Exorcist II: The Herectic"
@Tararturan1911
@Tararturan1911 22 күн бұрын
[From Germany:] 4 reasons to watch this movie: 1. It makes vampires scary again (at last)! 2. It focuses on Ellen as leading character, making the vampire a symbol of her supressed desires within an oppressive society that can only be lived out in a perverted, demonic manner. 3. Orlok/Dracula looks - at last! - like an actual eastern european nobleman of his era, including the moustache. A courageous decision, NOT to make him sexy or even handsome. 4. Lily Rose-Depp's acting is dazzling and heartbreaking. - Not to mention the visual qualities of the movie. I am from the homeland of the 1922 Nosferatu and always loved it, but I consider Eggers' Remake to be the best by far, much more original and self-contained than Werner Herzog's german Remake from 1979.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 22 күн бұрын
Interesting take and glad to read your opinion.
@Dreeza68955
@Dreeza68955 9 күн бұрын
Yeah no
@leventeferenc1803
@leventeferenc1803 22 күн бұрын
I also wasn't impressed by this film but it would be a mistake to never watch The VVitch. That's a masterpiece
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 22 күн бұрын
I may consider that one
@proudatheist2042
@proudatheist2042 22 күн бұрын
I respectfully agree to disagree with you. Overall, I enoyed the movie. There was a ten to fifteen minute stretch where it was painfully slow and frightfully boring for me. Count Orlok with his mustache reminded me of Jom Carrey's villian from the Sonic movie, so I didn't take him as seriously as I could have. Otherwise, I am glad that i saw the movie, and I thought it was masterfully created.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 22 күн бұрын
Glad we agree on those few points
@RobertLange
@RobertLange 23 күн бұрын
Personal opinion here - I could not agree less with this review - especially that it relies heavily on cheap jump scares and gore. What it relies on is a heavy, nightmarish and pressing atmosphere that comes to life through outstanding acting from the whole cast - especially Bill Skarsgård and Lily-Rose Depp. But everyone is entitled to their own opinon and I would not tell people to not watch a film - even If I personally thought it sucked. See it and make your own opinion on it. To me this was one of the best movies I have seen in years.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 22 күн бұрын
Movies are very subjective, I'd say. I couldn't find the acting compelling in the slightest. But we all have our opinions and it was great to read yours
@ryman1933
@ryman1933 20 күн бұрын
not sure we watched the same movie cause nothing nightmarish or pressing about the atmosphere at all, I was so bored and detached from the story that I was nearly asleep the last hour.
@RobertLange
@RobertLange 20 күн бұрын
@ Really? Interesting. What did you find boring in the story and what would you have seen done differently? I’m just curious.
@ryman1933
@ryman1933 19 күн бұрын
@@RobertLange I don't know, I suppose just more actual substance. It felt like 3/4 of the movie was just long drawn out scenes of characters talking, then the girl would just randomly go into a seizure, and the camera would pan to her or something. Then they would go to a scene of them talking again, then she'd have some more seizures. The only good part was the castle scenes, where there was actually tension and potential for a horror movie. Then the rest of the movie is basically talking, some seizures, more talking, then just kinda ends. Have not been so bored at a movie in a long time. Only good scenes were the castle scenes cause they at least had some tension. Also, what was with the sexualized seizures, or when she randomly says how the vampire is better in bed than her husband so he.... just goes for it? Like aggressively and suddenly out of nowhere. Like was he already hard and ready to go for some reason? Who thought this movie was a good idea lol
@mellymb4131
@mellymb4131 15 күн бұрын
@@vinylncelluloidAaron Taylor Johnson acted the whole movie like a 16 year old kid in a high school play... he was SOO BAD
@SwissCheese667
@SwissCheese667 23 күн бұрын
1. Murnau's film "even a hundred years later still scary and chilling" - lol, just stop. It's just not. It's a classic, no doubt - but not in any way scary by today's standards. Get real. 2. Another shmock who didn't like the mustache... Stoker's Dracula - as well as pretty much all historical Transylvanian noblemen - had one. Disagree on all points you made. They're not even well argued. Go find another hobby.
@lukejarvis1803
@lukejarvis1803 23 күн бұрын
Robert Eggers makes period dramas, not horror movies.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 23 күн бұрын
Spot on!
@kostantza1
@kostantza1 23 күн бұрын
I actually belong to none of these four categories you mentioned.I loved the movie, without overlooking a couple of flawed decisions imho. I also happen to be a fan of Eggers' (whose attention to detail and historical-mindedness should be recognized, at least, as admirable, if nothing else), and I would offer my opinion in response to yours, but I don't think there's any point. Not only does it look like you came into this ready to hate it, but you go out of your way to basically deny this movie any merit whatsoever, even those it objectively has, like the success in recreating the Romantic era both in attitude and aesthetic, the technical skill of the direction, the costumes, etc. It's ok. Seems like Eggers' cinema isn't your thing. Nobody denied it's not for everyone.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 23 күн бұрын
I actually developed an interest about watching this title. I do praise the cinematography, Willem Dafoe, and other technical aspects. But yes Eggers isn't for me
@kostantza1
@kostantza1 23 күн бұрын
@@vinylncelluloidIt's nice we could be civil about it.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 20 күн бұрын
@@kostantza1 Always
@samsabruskongen
@samsabruskongen 23 күн бұрын
Eggers must be the most overrated director out there.
@pedrocorreia8502
@pedrocorreia8502 23 күн бұрын
Amen!❤
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 23 күн бұрын
One of them
@samsabruskongen
@samsabruskongen 23 күн бұрын
@@JosephEaston-v9f Haha
@BadAtTeaDude
@BadAtTeaDude 20 күн бұрын
Agree
@JohnnyJohnny-f5o
@JohnnyJohnny-f5o 9 күн бұрын
He shot his load with Witch and now he's walking around with an empty sack, poor guy.
@shubhamchauhan9756
@shubhamchauhan9756 24 күн бұрын
Exactly my point for anyone who saw bram strokers Dracula this movie is a joke and shouldn’t exist
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 24 күн бұрын
Very true
@toedrag-release
@toedrag-release 23 күн бұрын
Nosferatu 2024> Brams Dracula
@airidasiliauskaite8334
@airidasiliauskaite8334 24 күн бұрын
I loved the movie! I expected that there won't be a change in a story, because it's based on a book, i knew that it would be heavily influenced by old Nosferatu. Liked that Lillys disease was shown as a demonic posession. Some of the scenes could be done better: Romanian gipsies were shown in a weird way, eating a pugeon head missed sound of braking bones. Overall it was beautiful and disgusting. I had few jumps, but it had this feeling of disgust and rot. I loved that. Vampire with a mustache is an actual look of Vlad Tepes, who was inspiration for count Dracula. We were so framed by how Nosferatu should look, that anything different than our image disagrees with us.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 24 күн бұрын
We agree on the Romanian gypsies scene...one of the key moments I felt it was totally unnecessary. Good shout out on the Vlad Tepes reference. I did not know that
@Guts275
@Guts275 24 күн бұрын
I respectfully, full heartedly disagree. Its up there with the lighthouse in my opinion
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 24 күн бұрын
Totally understand! That's the good thing about movies. The subjective appreciation of what we see...I liked "Megalopolis" for instance
@bryan.e
@bryan.e 24 күн бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid Megalopolis is my favorite of 2024, Nosferatu is probably #2
@Guts275
@Guts275 23 күн бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid not actually seen that. Will put it on my list. I loved nosferatu so much that I just went to see it again, then booked another ticket for Monday as soon as I left the theatre. Lol!.... maybe a bit obsessive
@JohnnyJohnny-f5o
@JohnnyJohnny-f5o 9 күн бұрын
@@bryan.e Good lord, you certainly have.. some kind of taste in movies.
@mauriciomedina2629
@mauriciomedina2629 24 күн бұрын
Booo 👎 Movie was a cinematic masterpiece, first horror movie to make me jump in years.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 24 күн бұрын
Haha! Well, we at least agree on the lack of proper suspense when it comes to modern day horror movies
@ryman1933
@ryman1933 20 күн бұрын
all the jumpscares were predictable, obvious moments where something is clearly going to happen. I was so bored I almost was asleep the last hour. No idea what version of the movie all these other people seemingly watched.
@BadAtTeaDude
@BadAtTeaDude 20 күн бұрын
I could barely get thru the Witch Put me to sleep. I'll take Christopher Lee and Legosi over a hack like Skarsgard any day. I wouldn't waste my time on this.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 15 күн бұрын
@@BadAtTeaDude Agreed
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 15 күн бұрын
@@ryman1933 My thoughts exactly
@Pigins
@Pigins 25 күн бұрын
It just felt hard to connect with.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 25 күн бұрын
Same! I guess one could ironically say that Robert Eggers made the perfect vampire movie: one without a soul
25 күн бұрын
I agree. It was utter sh*te
@segundotake
@segundotake 25 күн бұрын
Custa-me horrores dizer isto, mas concordo com o sentimento geral da tua análise. Não sou fã do desdém do Robert Eggers como um todo sem teres visto os outros filmes e não alinho na carga de porrada à Lilly. Acho que o elenco está genericamente fraco (por exemplo, achei Aaron Taylor-Johnson o elo mais fraco), mas culpo a direcção de actores. O mais curioso foi que Nosferatu evocou a memória barroca do fantástico Dracula de Francis Ford Coppola, revelando-se oco e vazio na comparação. Curioso é um filme ser longo demais e parecer apressado em inúmeras sequências ao mesmo tempo. Enfim, um filme lindíssimo, mas da espessura de um lindíssimo postal ilustrado.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 25 күн бұрын
Grato pela tua prosa e pelo humor (horrores...heheh). Reconheço o teu ponto em relação ao realizador. No que toca à Lily-Rose, eu acho que deve ser o meu talento natural para ver comédia em titulos como "Hereditary" e "Halloween Ends". Penso que tava tão entediado a ver o filme que a imaginei a fazer um cover do "Wuthering Heights". Longo e apressado é o paradoxo que resume este filme que acaba por ser apenas mais um remake.
@sergiogomespires
@sergiogomespires 25 күн бұрын
That's what vampires do. They suck.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid 25 күн бұрын
Hehe. Can't wait for Pedro Cruz Pinheiro's production of "Nosferatu: Vampyr Rising"
@proudatheist2042
@proudatheist2042 22 күн бұрын
I enjoyed the movie overall, but I couldn't help but enjoy your comment.
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Funny as always! Keep it up
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Thanks for the support
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
Have you read the recent Cimino biography?????
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
I have indeed
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
@vinylncelluloid I just loved the book, such a great read
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
The movie that made trouble for Scorsese was not King of Comedy, that was a flop but not an expensive one. The movie that almost killed his carrer was New York, New York, a really expensive flop.......
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
True...the angle here was to go for a misfire that was also largely misunderstood
@dethdad123
@dethdad123 Ай бұрын
Cimino will always be one of my favorite directors and it’s a shame he never got a chance to direct more. Hopefully this series will bring more attention to his post Heaven’s Gate movies.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Thank you! Fingers crossed
@connorbrennan4233
@connorbrennan4233 Ай бұрын
I watched Year of the Dragon after reading Tarantino's Cinema Speculation and it was amazing. I especially found the character conflict and contrast between Stan and Joey Tai unexpectedly compelling. I don't believe the film is racist, at least it didn't seem that way. The film doesn't condone Stan's prejudice towards the Chinese and it does acknowledge that he is out of touch with the world he lives in. For me, Year of the Dragon is a prime example of how sometimes the most popular/mainstream films of the '80s are not always the best. I love YOTD, but The Untouchables always seemed overrated to me, even though it's a really good film. And everyone sings praises for The Lost Boys, but not as many people talk about Near Dark. The Lost Boys feels studio-mandated in places, but Near Dark is properly unhinged. As for the character of Tracy Tzu, it's not so much the performance that bugs me (although it is much weaker than Rourke's or Lone's), but her romance with Stan. I didn't understand why they would fall for each other.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
I still have to watch "Near Dark". And I totally agree with you on the forced relationship. It's not even like they were using each other to achieve a specific goal
@connorbrennan4233
@connorbrennan4233 Ай бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid Well, in Stan's case, I believe he was using her to expose the triad's criminal activities and increase the pressure on Joey Tai. What Tracy would have used him for, I don't know.
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
@@connorbrennan4233 Most of the movies that I teach in my class as representatice of a genre are flops
@connorbrennan4233
@connorbrennan4233 Ай бұрын
@@luistraversoteullet727 What are some examples of films you teach?
@sausage_and_peppers
@sausage_and_peppers 27 күн бұрын
LoL you discovered that movie because of Tarantino? What a poser
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday Ай бұрын
You could put Tucci and Feinnes in a room reading Knitting Monthly and it would be worth the price of admission.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Agreed
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday Ай бұрын
This movie is the WILDEST juxtaposition of acting I've seen in a long, long time. Monroe is swinging for the fences with a truly spectacular performance whilst Cage looks like he's hopped up on meth. Quite what she was thinking sat opposite him in their final dialogue is anyone's guess.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Haha! Well put
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday Ай бұрын
Villenueve more than exceeded my wildest expectations for Dune. I thought the task was impossible but Denis proved me wrong. And yet .... did he adequately convey the true scale of an intergalactic empire spanning thousands of worlds? It's a serious question that popped into my mind after recently watching the remastered version of David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia which ... well ... seemed far more epic despite portraying a war involving just a few thousand people in some tiny corner of our earth.
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday Ай бұрын
I had no idea what was going on in this movie. But .... shares in CGI are going up, up, up!!!
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday Ай бұрын
Seriously, I had to switch it off after half an hour. That's not me. I'm one of these people who'll see even bad films or books through to the end (often for no reason other than sheer bloody mindedness). What I witnessed was completely surreal. I mean, it looks a million dollars. And you could tell Joaquin - at the very least - got in great physical shape for the film. A LOT of talented and dedicated people invested time and energy into this. And yet spiritually it seemed like one giant singularity sucking everything in to leave a big fat ... nothing.
@theflorgeormix
@theflorgeormix Ай бұрын
Long list of reprobates in Hollywood. The grapevine hurts these persons slyly. But understands they need to survive. Year of the Dragon so well done. He learned
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Year Of The Dragon is terrific
@NostalgiNorden
@NostalgiNorden Ай бұрын
He didn't.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
haha!
@revengeoftheshamhammer
@revengeoftheshamhammer Ай бұрын
This was such such such an amazing series I really thoroughly enjoyed every episode. And I’m so glad it brought me to you channel. You make great content! Thank you
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words!
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday Ай бұрын
The guy made too many enemies. He was on thin ice after making The Deer Hunter which had the unique distinction of both the Left and the Right enraged with the former believing it was overtly racist and the latter thinking it was anti-American. He then drops the middle finger with Heaven's Gate which paints the heroes as a bunch of proto-Marxists who are wiped out by the conservative landowning class and an emerging national security state. Even Oliver Stone wasn't that brave. He sure got the message after releasing JFK - the only movie I can recall which was reviewed (negatively) before it left the editing suite. I mean, Nixon is still a good movie but Stone dialed it way, way back.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Amen! I was always surprised at how tame "Nixon" was, especially considering the personal revolt Stone had after having voted for Nixon in 68.
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday Ай бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid I enjoyed Stone's/Hopkins' exploration of Nixon's character, motivations and actions. The definition of hell is being in a position where all of your options are terrible and Nixon was very much in hell. I initially believed Hopkins was an unlikely Nixon - but that was some kind of weird vanity on my part because Hopkins can make anything look great and he certainly imbued Nixon with more humanity than I ever thought possible. Just wish it had been the Hopkins of 15 years earlier. That guy was a force of nature. Pity Stone lost his nerve. But I guess he knew his career would be over if he really went at Nixon.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
@@deaddropholiday Very true. Nixon was his swan song. An interesting, tamer take on American Politics (not as tame as 2008's W)
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday Ай бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid Don't get me started on W. It was at the vanguard of a modern trend in filmmaking where subjects as serious as a heart attack are either satirized or spoofed. Another good example would be the film, "War Machine" which was based on the book "The Operators" by the deceased journalist Michael Hastings. Whilst Hastings recognized comedic elements in the story of McChrystal and his cronies - it wasn't a comedy. Or a satire. We're seeing a lot of this in Hollywood lately and it isn't an edifying spectacle. There's an argument to say JFK is Stone's best film (might even be John Williams best score ... or maybe his most creative). Whilst there are quite a few inaccuracies in that movie (one big one I take serious issue with) - such criticism kind of misses the point. Nobody will ever know what exactly took place that day. So all we have is our best shot. And Stone got pretty darned close. Others tend to highlight films like Platoon and such. But Platoon doesn't emphasize Stone's real strength - editing. And for JFK Oliver's editing was at its peak. If he does have a weakness I'd say he really needed a better DP. At times even his best work looks .... high-end made for TV (purely from a photographic perspective). But that's a minor quibble.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
@@deaddropholiday Very true on the DP front. As for the brutally enforced satirical nature of some modern content...guess that's the only way to get to some people
@jimmypadilla3441
@jimmypadilla3441 Ай бұрын
DDL to Christopher Lambert is laughable. Lambert was the bigger name probs but come on, he was always a weak actor, especially for a charismatic character like Giuliano
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
And Cimino was the one who wanted DDL. But compromises had to be made. Agree on Lambert
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid he was no DDL
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
@@luistraversoteullet727 He sure wasn't
@alisdairmckenzie22
@alisdairmckenzie22 Ай бұрын
I always like Year of the Dragon - fascinating and exciting.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Very underrated indeed. A personal favourite.
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid Love that movie......
@scottmandu8316
@scottmandu8316 Ай бұрын
His distorted physical appearance reminds me of Phil Spector
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Haha! Never though of that. It's always the Jon Lovitz comparison that gets the credit
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid Well, she was a trans women at the end of her life. I recomend to read Cimino biography, was out 2023.....
@littlekingtrashmouth9219
@littlekingtrashmouth9219 Ай бұрын
Kinda glad he didn’t ruin those other movies
@idontcareaboutyou7757
@idontcareaboutyou7757 Ай бұрын
The Sicilian is dubbed in Italy, that makes a decent film out of it, very close to real historic carachter and time's Sicily. The decline of such a talented artist remains a mistery to me even after your beautiful video.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Did not know that. Always great to learn new things. But I think with proper guidance or a bit more restraint he could have recovered from "Heaven's Gate"
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
I cant help you with that, he was really difficult to work with.......
@chanceotter8121
@chanceotter8121 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this series. Though Cimino gets all the blame for the end of New Hollywood’s artistic freedom of directors, the beginning of ‘80s saw personal projects by New Hollywood architects Bogdanovich, Rafelson, Penn, Schlesinger, Friedkin, Altman, Mazursky, Ashby, Ritchie, and Lumet all fail at box office or not even get released. Mike Nichols was still in his self-imposed exile, Peckinpah was in another kind of exile, Malick went hiding, and of course Coppola had OFTH, and DePalma’s Blow Out was also a financial failure. This isn’t a comment on the artistic value of any of the individual films by these filmmakers made in 80-82 (some I think are criminally underrated) but the times and business were changing, and I think they used Gate and Cimino as the scapegoat to change how films were made, and what people expected from Hollywood.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
Oh 200%. Hollywood was starting to find out the value of de-risking through sequels and early day franchises. Tastes were changing, mostly based on what was offered
@NostalgiNorden
@NostalgiNorden Ай бұрын
King Of Comedy was a flop as well and Raging Bull manaed to be released just before Heavens Gate.
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
@@NostalgiNorden Indeed!
@luistraversoteullet727
@luistraversoteullet727 Ай бұрын
@@vinylncelluloid I love Cimino, my first catson is called Cimino and I teach a film class where I give extra points if the students watch Cimino movies. But he was a huge @$$h0l3. He was really hostile to producers an the studio and didnt play ball. Most of those filmmakers had expensive flops but at least they didnt treat the studio like lepers, and hear a little. Cimino was full of himself while doing Heaven Gates and only hear himself. Thats why this huge flop that sink UA was his to blame, and thats why no one wanted to work with him. Not even in Europe, where they have a huge tolerance with authors, gave him money to do a movie, and he was a huge book bestseller in France..... The thing here is: Making movies is a job for a lot of people, so if you are in this businees you should play well with others.....
@vinylncelluloid
@vinylncelluloid Ай бұрын
@@luistraversoteullet727 Wonderful take on the director from a global perspective