Unboxing EG4's NEW GridBOSS MID!
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@philippserrin8268
@philippserrin8268 Күн бұрын
Nice job Brayden.
@brainstorm3446
@brainstorm3446 Күн бұрын
This guy needs to take classes from Will Prowers on how to explain a product, because when this guy talks I can't understand it!!!
@priestesslucy
@priestesslucy Күн бұрын
Looking forward to Will's vid on this thing
@slugbyte
@slugbyte Күн бұрын
Good information
@tarlnobert8033
@tarlnobert8033 Күн бұрын
If you don't have a laptop, are you able to update this unit with your phone? I'm wanting to get this system for my off grid system but I'm concerned that I won't be able to update it or work on it in any way without a laptop or wi-fi. Thank you
@dirtbikersteve
@dirtbikersteve 2 күн бұрын
Am I right to assume my entire home electrical panel can be hooked up to the backup loads panel. That way when power goes out the whole home is on bat + pv, but when grid on its bat + pv + grid
@larrymiller7128
@larrymiller7128 2 күн бұрын
Hello, how can this connect to the inverter n run your load? Thank you in advance
@michiganengineer8621
@michiganengineer8621 2 күн бұрын
It sounds like you would still need an "anti-islanding" switch to disconnect from the grid if/when the grid fails. I like the idea of how this brings ALMOST all of the external connections between the grid, your hybrid inverter(s) and your main breaker panel together into one box.
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics Күн бұрын
The GridBOSS handles all anti-islanding needs, complete with the UL certifications necessary. It has those functions built in!
@michiganengineer8621
@michiganengineer8621 Күн бұрын
@@eg4electronics I went to the site after I commented and read through the specs and saw that. Thank you for the reply!
@richardservatius5405
@richardservatius5405 2 күн бұрын
I have 5 each 5.1kwh batteries currently and want to buy an 18kpv all in one inverter to replace my 6500. the 6500 is working fine, but will want to charge a Tesla at least partially with the 18. and that means 220vac. I have some old solar panels, but the 6500 is also hooked to grid and i could use a 7000w genset for power if needed. I can hook onto 220vac grid directly to charge the Tesla, but want to use as much solar as possible for charging. suggestions?
@alexherrera3918
@alexherrera3918 3 күн бұрын
I have registered in the forum but i ver get an email to add my password, so i ner got registered, what is the problem with the registration? thanks
@wdwtx2.0
@wdwtx2.0 3 күн бұрын
If only it would have the same PV capacity/features in a HYBRID unit.
@MyWasteOfTime
@MyWasteOfTime 3 күн бұрын
I suggest adding a paper manual and a Dongle Quick-setup guide!
@alexherrera3918
@alexherrera3918 3 күн бұрын
great!
@BryanKirch
@BryanKirch 4 күн бұрын
Hi. Are these also emp proof like your other models?
@andrewwobser9771
@andrewwobser9771 3 күн бұрын
That would probably be a side benefit of the all metal casing...
@jamesmartin2339
@jamesmartin2339 4 күн бұрын
Does the flex boss and gridboss support the Ethernet adapter that the 18kpv support?
@arnulfopernia
@arnulfopernia 5 күн бұрын
Hello sir, thank you for the explanation although I have many doubts. I work for a solar panel installation company and we recently started installing the 18KPV inverter kit and 2 EG4 batteries. My simple question is: what should be the optimal configuration for this installation, since all the information I have seen does not indicate optimal values ​​that should be used. So we just turned on the system and it says its status is Normal, but I notice that the batteries discharge very quickly. thank you for your time. I wrote to you from Dallas, Tx.
@arnulfopernia
@arnulfopernia 5 күн бұрын
Hello sir, thank you for the explanation although I have many doubts. I work for a solar panel installation company and we recently started installing the 18KPV inverter kit and 2 EG4 batteries. My simple question is: what should be the optimal configuration for this installation, since all the information I have seen does not indicate optimal values ​​that should be used. So we just turned on the system and it says its status is Normal, but I notice that the batteries discharge very quickly. thank you for your time. I wrote to you from Dallas, Tx.
@elainemann5990
@elainemann5990 6 күн бұрын
Hi were do you download the software from?
@trinitygeorgetownca5371
@trinitygeorgetownca5371 7 күн бұрын
Very satisfying to have the system report data to the app on the very first try! Thanks!!!
@norsk54472
@norsk54472 8 күн бұрын
sweet
@vinny143
@vinny143 8 күн бұрын
Interesting
@bill2292
@bill2292 8 күн бұрын
Hey Braden, another great video, thanks. Hate to tell you, but we need YOU to do several long & detailed install videos for a system with GridBoss/FlexBoss and indoor wall mount 48v battery 🙂.
@bill2292
@bill2292 8 күн бұрын
Hi Braden, really great videos! I prefer yours to many of the others on youtube since you speak in plain English and without a lot of buzz words and acronyms! I need to follow six manufacturers and it becomes very annoying with each one making up new words every month! Thanks
@xyamom
@xyamom 9 күн бұрын
And updates on the usb screen?
@MNsportsman
@MNsportsman 9 күн бұрын
How many of your newer indoor wall mount batteries can be connected to one 12000xp?
@DiySolarHelpDesk
@DiySolarHelpDesk 10 күн бұрын
I'm missing something, and I don't see it in the manual either. The Grid Boss Hybrid ports are for the "GRID" input to the Hybrid inverters. Where do the EPS outputs from the Hybrid Inverters connect? Without those, there is no backup. The diagrams all show just 1 port being used for the Hybrid inverter and that doesn't make sense if the grid fails. That's when the EPS port takes over.
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
Tight communication with our EG4 hybrid inverters allows the GridBOSS to control whether that port stays operational or not. This is important as the grid disconnection is now located within the GridBOSS (when using its architecture). Using the grid port on the inverters allows for unique future features to be added to the EG4 ecosystem!
@DiySolarHelpDesk
@DiySolarHelpDesk 9 күн бұрын
@@eg4electronics My only complaint with EG4 inverters is I wish they were convection-cooled like Hoymiles inverters. They run totally silent.
@collinlindgren3591
@collinlindgren3591 9 күн бұрын
​@eg4electronics I thought that's what the idea was here, but I'd like to see this wiring diagram. The manuals for both Boss products specificity exclude a wiring diagram so it's not clear. Also, page 33 describes a No Sell Back scenario in which the non-backup loads recieve power from the inverters during an outage. How can this be done with 1 relay and still be safe for the grid linemen?
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 6 күн бұрын
The non-backup loads will not receive power when the grid/utility is offline, that's what the relay is for. The situation it is describing is that when grid is present, the inverters can still offset the power usage on non-backup loads, but won't sell excess power back to the grid.
@niallparker3655
@niallparker3655 10 күн бұрын
How to add to home wifi without pwd ? (Ie open, no wpa we etc)
@tombrownca
@tombrownca 10 күн бұрын
Do you have a diagram for how one might connect GridBoss to a home? Like, show main meter and breaker box, show PV array, show the wiring connections in a diagram.
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
More in-depth information can be found in the manual located on the GridBOSS page here: eg4electronics.com/categories/inverters/eg4-gridboss/
@jamesgor13579
@jamesgor13579 10 күн бұрын
Requiring copper wiring is a major limit. Many large connections are going to be aluminum SER. Especially if the inverter and batteries are not located near the service entrance.
@andyfromtoystory7426
@andyfromtoystory7426 5 күн бұрын
You can use aluminum, but the thickness of the aluminum wire would be much thicker than copper and it wouldn’t fit into the connector. That’s the only reason they say copper, that’s a statement from their CEO. The inverter itself will work the same with aluminum if you can get it hooked up.
@bill2292
@bill2292 10 күн бұрын
18kPV looks like a beast for us homeowners who are on or off grid.I sure hope you guys make a few videos on the differences between the 18kPV and the new flexboss and gridboss
@bill2292
@bill2292 10 күн бұрын
Great looking new product, but I don't yet see pricing on the website. I really appreciate the explanation without the use of acronyms and buzzwords.
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for the kind feedback! Pricing is available at our certified distributors listed on this page: eg4electronics.com/distributors/
@MyGoogleYoutube
@MyGoogleYoutube 11 күн бұрын
If you already have a 200A breaker right after your meter do you still need to add a 200A breaker in the Gridboss?
@MyGoogleYoutube
@MyGoogleYoutube 11 күн бұрын
It seems silly to include all of these breakers with the Gridboss. Why not ship it without breakers to make it cheaper? Then buy the breakers you need for your install. In our install we are going to use a 12KPV which means we have to buy a 50A breaker. And we don't intend to use the smart ports. Which is frustrating because the Smartport breakers are the same as the breakers used for the hybrid inverter inputs. But a 50A breaker isn't included in the Smartports
@AndrewVanTil
@AndrewVanTil 11 күн бұрын
Can you use this with service greater than 200A?
@jmbergmann
@jmbergmann 10 күн бұрын
Agree -- I have the same question -- Hoping there's some way to connect to two 200-amp panels, even if a second gridboss is needed for this.
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
The Service Entrance Rating is up to 200A currently. There may be future certifications that expand this number.
@stevec7272
@stevec7272 9 күн бұрын
wire up a sub panel with multiple 200A breakers.... and run multiple independent systems
@AndrewVanTil
@AndrewVanTil 9 күн бұрын
@@eg4electronics Thank you. Would be great if there's a solution for larger service sizes. Many homes, especially as all-electric homes become more normal, have service levels over 200A.
@SoluSolaire
@SoluSolaire 11 күн бұрын
Can we use any inverter with Gridboss?
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
Currently, the three hybrid inverters that are compatible are the FlexBOSS21, 12kPV, and 18kPV for backing up loads via the hybrid inverter port. If AC Coupling on the smart ports, you can use any popular UL1741 rated grid-tie inverter for additional solar input.
@notexpected
@notexpected 11 күн бұрын
Very interested in seeing a follow up video showing the remote management user interfaces, especially for the case when the internet is down.
@drewadlof
@drewadlof 11 күн бұрын
Do you recommend getting a lumen box with the grid boss to add smart monitoring and custom load shedding rules to other critical loads beyond the 4 smart loads directly connected to the grid boss?
@Ohiogrown89
@Ohiogrown89 11 күн бұрын
Do you guys do black friday sales trying to get my fitst solat setup going
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
There's very likely going to be a sale at one or more of our certified distributors, which I'd recommend checking out here: eg4electronics.com/distributors/
@JudasBytes
@JudasBytes 11 күн бұрын
do you ship to #philippines?
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
This would be a better question to ask one of our certified distributors! You can find them on this page: eg4electronics.com/distributors/
@joelhiltz3329
@joelhiltz3329 11 күн бұрын
My God is this SLEEPY EYED DOPE their spokesman ??? give scruffy WHIMPY a HAMBURGER. LOL
@lifewithbootstrap2087
@lifewithbootstrap2087 11 күн бұрын
does it work with any hybrid inverter
@stevec7272
@stevec7272 11 күн бұрын
yes
@bgpnu
@bgpnu 11 күн бұрын
No. See 28:10 mark in the signature solar KZbin video where the eg4 ceo says it is only compatible with EG4 inverters
@stevec7272
@stevec7272 11 күн бұрын
@@bgpnu depends on what OP means when he says "work with"... 27:45 in the same video dude says works with enphase, etc. Is it going to be tightly integrated with other mfgs, definitely no.
@charleshill7184
@charleshill7184 11 күн бұрын
No. It works with the EG4 12Kpv, 18Kpv, and FlexBOSS 21.
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
The hybrid inverter slot is currently reserved for EG4's FlexBOSS21, 12kPV and 18kPV, but you can AC Couple UL1741 Grid-tie inverters into the smart ports for additional power generation.
@petertulp8806
@petertulp8806 11 күн бұрын
10:29 I don't see this link in the description
@worthmor
@worthmor 11 күн бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/rae6k36epc9kg7c
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
Apologies, I didn't add it in immediately, but it should be there now! Link to video here too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rae6k36epc9kg7c
@doradosurfcharters
@doradosurfcharters 11 күн бұрын
Does eg4 ship to Australia?
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
I'd recommend contacting our certified distributors to learn more about purchasing and shipping inquiries. Check them out on this list: eg4electronics.com/distributors/
@Upliftyourbrothers
@Upliftyourbrothers 11 күн бұрын
Cool! What are the benefits of this over a Schneider BCS?
@eg4electronics
@eg4electronics 9 күн бұрын
Nearly all MIDs currently in use are proprietary with the hybrid inverters they can use (with pretty good reason being tight communication protocols, admittedly), so the using the GridBOSS allows you to take advantage of the full EG4 ecosystem in all the ways described in the video (and more!)
@claygone305
@claygone305 12 күн бұрын
This product looks great. Are you going to add support for grid export for batteries? Grid stabilization with utilities would make this a killer product.
@videobob
@videobob 12 күн бұрын
How does this unit affect bond or unbonded unit connections ?
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 12 күн бұрын
Let me know when they come out with a simplified Off-Grid Boss with smart loads.
@surfcow
@surfcow 12 күн бұрын
Well done, thank you.
@dalltex
@dalltex 12 күн бұрын
Can you add an off grid inverter like a 6000xp to one of the smart ports? I'm still learning
@cell8290
@cell8290 12 күн бұрын
I also had the same question. I am not sure but I'd say no. Only because he keeps saying we can connect "hybrid inverters" and on the gridboss it says "hybrid inverters". Who knows, they might actually support off grid inverters like 6000xp too?
@edaugsburger6486
@edaugsburger6486 12 күн бұрын
from what i am reading yes the 6000xp would be connected to one of the smart port
@dongemus
@dongemus 12 күн бұрын
The official answer I've heard is "not at this time" but you were able to hook a 6000xp to the 18k via the generator port. Not sure why you couldn't do that here
@dalltex
@dalltex 12 күн бұрын
@@cell8290 Thanks! I was thinking that the hybrid inverters connected to the hybrid port would work better but wasn't sure about the smart ports since he said it could connect to AC and DC coupling I believe. I need more knowledge but learning a little at a time.
@Aubatron
@Aubatron 11 күн бұрын
I remember signature solar saying it’s a stand alone system and will not communicate with other eg4 devices and is not really meant to be put in parallel with more panels like a lot of the other devices are. Don’t know if that answers your question.
@Barc7580
@Barc7580 12 күн бұрын
Is the grid boss a good option to connect back to an interlock breaker in the main panel plus connecting to a sub panel running grid up only devices such a a pool filter and pool heaters?
@ericjansen9042
@ericjansen9042 12 күн бұрын
Great break down