Persian immortals vs gallic archers maybe? They use both Bows and Spears…. So… 😅

Funny how the enemy cav didn’t switch to swords after the charge if they’re prolonging the fight… pretty sure most of these units have lance and swords… and yes they do switch weapons when ALT was pressed, kinda like the phalangite infantry or triarii 😅

Wtf is even happening here. The Saxons aren't in vanilla Rome total war and the celts don't get praetorian cavalry. What is going on.

But, the saxons aren't in the vanilla game, they're only in barbarian invasion...

I just realize how insanely stronger Defense in BI compared to the Vanilla, I often find that deploying your Generals is far more common when smashing through the lines of the enemies unlike in Vanilla mostly in early-mid game the General Cavalries have substantial lesser Defense and put in more high risk to killing your own General in mid-battle.

Something RTW and BI have in common; always upgrade your troops.

Can you do clibinarii immortals vs john pork cavalry? They might be the only unit capable of defeating them

Alexander immortals vs comitatenses 🎉🎉

Historically what made the Spartiates(Spartan citizens) so good compared to other greek Militias wasnt their skill at arms but it was their innovative and superior military organization, logistics, psychological warfare and propaganda. Spartan citizens were the tallest fittest healthiest and most disciplined of greeks add in the cohesion they had thanks to their brotherhood among the members of their syssitia and their use of psychological warfare(military uniforms, long but well groomed hair and beard, their silence and stoicism in battle and them incorporating poetry and dance in the phalanx where Spartan citizens would march and move accordingly to the rhytm of flutes and them chanting poetry during battle)add in the myth they created out of the heroic sacrifice of the greeks and now we know why the Spartan army was the best citizen militia of its time. All of these were by products of the agoge which wasnt about military training at all it was a state funded public education designed to create citizens capable of fullfiling all their civic duties from politics to diplomacy to serving in the civic army to taking part in olympic games. the stats in rome total war are too op but still fun and can be applicable to the artistically exagerrated Spartans of 300.

what's the difficulty of this game, please ?

Would have been a perfect opportunity to showcase Shield Wall in the 2nd test since the units with that ability do so much better at resisting charges, so long as they are spread wide enough so their flanks are not open they are almost impossible for cavalry to beat unless you're something insane like Immortals. The fact the Hearth Troops still mostly won anyway really shows how tough they are even without their special formation.

Had a feeling the hearth troops would win

Damn it feels so fucking good to pick what only around 12% people picked and be right. Cav in a prolonged melee fight are just no good. Close fight of course, but the SH troops were also a lot cheaper, so its actually quite impressive what they accomplished.

ERE vs Parthia in OG Rome ERE = 1 x Imperial Household Bodyguard, 2 x Equites Catafractarii, 4 x Comitatenses Parthia = 1 x Armoured Eastern General, 4 x Cataphracts, 4 x Eastern Infantry, 3 x Slingers

It was quite frustrating watching the cataphracts versus, they seem to be in a constant state of retreat and do not seem to make as many attacks, but when they do they actually inflict a surprising amount of damage - do they have a shieldwall formation by any chance?

seems to me the only way to win as iberian infantry is to fight iberian infantry!!

Does praetorian cavalry have an alternate weapon?

Rome 1 👍

The Problem is that cav shouldnt fight heavy infantry stationary. Charge and Retreat, then Charge again and so on would be a better tactic and would much likely been used.

I asked for this test and I personally thought the theory about charge bonuses being better in BI was BS. Now you've proven it. Myth busted.

Oh, the Bull Warriors 😊 the least cost effective unit in the entirety of Rome 1

Hounds of Culann vs Legionary Cohort

the 2 generals died there because they had no place to retreat to i think

nice video but i think it would have been ok to see some upgrades on some of the archers since the macedonians get temples of artemis. It would have the amount of troops been the same but maybe have given ur archers a bit more punch

thanks for this campaign

The thing that's interesting about this style of campaign imo is that the difficulty doesn't get trivial in the lategame, on the contrary: When playing normally, you eventually end up with elite troops and an army composition that will wipe the floor with the mediocre armies your enemies field. Here you're at "maximum power" much, much earlier and you're under time pressure to deal with the Romans before they get their Marian reforms, but even aside from that Barbarians will eventually get Chosen Swordsmen, etc. You *could* try disrupting the Romans by getting a fleet big enough not to get sinked easily (very important!), some spies (for chance of open gates) and try hitting individual unprotected cities from the coast, raze them for money and to destroy all buildings to stifle all progress towards Marian reforms, then retreat back to your ships as soon as a big army arrives. 🤔

You can recruit elephants in Carthage from the start - have you considered doing an elephants only campaign? (making an exception for peasants to keep public order)

You'll want markets for sure. Not only will they grow your city, they also unlock the blacksmith which is the only way to make your iberian infantry stronger. The 6000 pop one gives +1/+1 (bronze), the next one just unlocks with 24000 pop (+2/+2). So trying to rush for the 6000 +1/+1 seems good, it'll give your infantry some much needed buff.

I died laughing at 8:10

Gotta do more micro management on settlements. Since you don't need stable and practice range, break them down immediately to gain some cash. That helps reduce cultural penalty as well. Use the money to build and upgrade your troops. Some shrines can upgrade weapon and armor, don't break them. You can get silver weapon and armor. And I use more forts to slow down the enemies' advance.

i love this campaign

look like weapon and armor upgrade was much effective to those op unit in rtw

I was almost worried that my prediction would be undone by that unlucky morale break, but numbers indeed saw the Saxons through.

You really need to do a 2nd match with Shield Wall to see the difference. Remember to spread the formation out because like double clicking for Phalanx units, they fight much better than if left alone as we have both seen how vulnerable Shield wall formations are from the front.

This is the most autistically Finnish video I've ever seen, I love it

I love your video. This game is my all time favourite. Spartian Tier: Default vanilla normal horse archer. Spartan Wannabe Tier: Slinger, Cataphract, Elephant Decent: both Bodyguard cav Bad: long range horse archer Trash: all infantry, foot archer, siege. The only S tier units in the entire game in my opinion is the default horse archer and chariot archer. In the more modern total war game, you need to unlock general trait or technology of parthian tactic to be able to shoot arrows on the move, or to shoot backward. These HA is just op right out of the gate. Also in the vanilla version of the game, so many units from all factions have low armour, only noticeble exception being the Roman legion and urban cohort and Greek heavy hoplite. If you wannna face stacks of post marian roman armies at late game, dont sweat. 3-4 units of Elephant just charge into their center, and your other cav should just mop up the rest. If you are cash strapped, or for logistical reason wanna faster trained army recruit from nearby regions in Italy or Greece, then go for slingers. Slingers counter heavy foot soldiers. Army compostion 7-8 slingers, and the rest cav. Let slingers tire out their heavy front line infantry, use cav to kill their missile and cav. Only engage exhausted infantry, shoot from their back, which you should have at least one or two surviving unit of sling with still half of their ammo left. Watch and be amazed, that the tickling dmage of what is like maybe 2 or 3 ? and somehow their gonna muder those urban cohort. I think one of the dev talked about this in an interview I've seen somewhere, sorry I can't find the link. But the story is that they tried to give peasant the ability to sling, but only for 1 damage, and half range of the already horrible short slinger range. Yet it turned out to be too powerful, because if they shoot slings even if just 1 damage they have a chance to kill urban cohort from the back. The low trajectory of slings also mean all the shots if directly shooting into the back of a unit cannot miss, they all go into the formation, and they eventually always hit someone. Therefore the seemingly low damage slings become machine guns.

Saxons: Come on boys, we have the advantage of numbers! That one unit in the centre: Fuck this, you guys are on your own.

I would not put the highlands nobles in D tier. If you create them in the late game, of course they will be destroyed and they deserve D tier. But in the beginning of the game, they rule the battlefields. The feudal knights (on feet) end their reign but before they come, nothing can stop them. They crush spearmen, billmen, chain mail knights (if they don't receive the charge) and can pretty easily kill the generals. A or S at the start of the game, D for the end. They could go to B tier.

another Sun Tzu tactic that peasants gives againt our Roman brothers before civil wars, are that you can recruit and 4.800 army of them or 2 armies, let them go to the city that you want to conquer, make the instantly desappear, and watch how that city goes to caos and become rebel and you only are wating with a full heavy army to conquest before the other roman faction starts spaming armies there.

2 hp make the difference

The only surprise from this test was the one unit of HTs running from the pila barrage. I wouldn’t expect a morale shock like that from an elite unit.