Sorry, I really have no idea. I wouldn’t think so.

@Random-Dad-Stuff Thank you for your response.

Thank you!

Awesome. Good luck.

I’ve never had any problems while we’ve been traveling or camping. There was one time the camper had been in storage during a very hot time and one of the pads came loose. I pressed it back on and haven’t had any problems since then. Since there are 2 on the refrigerator door, I do have a backup in case it happens while I’m driving.

I love mine. They work great and have never failed me. These are the ones I have: amzn.to/48zfAdb

That’s awesome. Congratulations! It always feels good to save $$. 😀

Thank you.

That’s awesome!

Enjoy your camper. We love ours. There are a couple active Rockwood Mini Lite Facebook groups if you’re interested. Happy camping!

We love our 2109S and have had no problems while towing. We are definitely mindful of keeping additional weight out of the truck to stay below our payload capacity. You’re right about too much weight in the back of the trailer causing sway. An “unloaded” tongue is not good. The rule of thumb I’ve read is 12-15% of the trailer weight should be on the tongue. We have not had any trailer sway from this trailer. Good luck with everything and Happy Camping! 😀

Good luck. It’s a cheap handle but mine still works great.

Awesome. Good luck with your project.

Thanks. I appreciate that.

I’ve read that a lot of people are having the same problem where the factory doesn’t fill in those holes where the clips go. Hopefully, that solves your problem too.

Awesome camper. We love ours.

I'm glad I found out my actual tongue weight so I can keep my payload within the limits of the truck. It's one less thing to worry about. Good luck with your 2109S. We love ours. It's a great size and can fit just about anywhere.

I’m in the same position, I’m picking up my 2024 2109 on Saturday. Have you been happy with towing yours and what do you tow with?

@@jackg7225 Towing with a 2018 Ford F150, 8-cyl. Since my above post I've made two trips, one predominantly flat in Texas and NM, and the other with a good bit of elevation gain in Colorado, where I live. The F150 is a crew cab with a 3.55 axle, GVWR=7,000, GCWR=14,400 and Payload Capacity=1,679. Actual Sherline'd hitch weight is 850#, and I'm using a Husky wdh. Obviously more than half of my payload is taken up by hitch weight. As to your question re. "Have I been happy with towing (the 2109S with this vehicle)", I would have to say "Yes", though I would always like to get more mpg (only averaging about 10mpg). BUT, subjectively, I must say that I doubt that I'd tow anything much heavier with the F150, mostly due to my sense of "laboring" the engine on grades, but also because of the "numbers". With two adults, two large dogs and a modicum of tools, spare gas and water, and misc equipment, I'm right at the truck's 7000# GVWR, which is the biggest negative. As a 2109S owner, you're already aware of the TT's weight -- mine is stickered at 4435# with a max cargo payload of 1343#, giving a gross combined trailer weight of 5778#. Assuming I don't fully-load the trailer (say only 1000#), and my towing capacity is only 7,400# (i.e. GCWR minus GVWR), the above combined trailer weight puts me at 73% of towing capacity (if all my math is correct). As I noted, vehicle towing preference is very subjective, but since the 2109S puts my F150 at max payload and 73% of towing capacity (some sages recommend staying below 80%), I think I have support for my opinion that the F150 is OK towing the 2109S, but nothing much more.

Thanks. We discovered that by accident. I really like those lights and just put two over the bed as well. Happy camping!

That’s correct. The air will only come out of the ducted vents.

That’s too bad you had a problem. They are cheap handles and you definitely get what you pay for. $20 vs $120 OEM Mine has been working great for 2 years. I’m sure it’ll break at some point too.

Awesome. It’s an easy project and mine have performed flawlessly. It’s probably the cheapest thing I’ve ever done on the camper. 😂

Thanks. I’m glad you enjoyed it. My cheap handle still works great. 😀

😂 Love this truck. 2007 and just hit 90k miles.

2011 257000 drive it everyday

Of course. I put the link in the description but you can get them here: a.co/d/3mjsSrZ

@@Random-Dad-StuffSome people 👆🏼don't read even when you put it on the screen while the video is playing. 😅 Thank you for the video. 🙏🏼

Yeah, it’s too bad. That’s a part that could be made much better for not much more money. Luckily, my cheap one is still working great.

can you try to explain exactly where you are talking about? im about to do this.

@@jasonjohnson9403 On the side of the lever arms is where mine broke twice. Wherever you see the hinged part moving add an additional layer of protection (epoxy) to thicken the hinged material. It's all around where the outer plastic is hinged.

Thanks. Happy camping!

Bummer! Good luck!

I’m in this boat right now did you get it figured out?

​@brianandreasen2200 this happened to me about a month ago. If you pry in the center bottom of the handle you can get that retaining clip to release to get a little space. From there you're going to have to snap the plastic where those 2 bolts attach the handle to the tailgate, I just rocked it back and forth until they snapped off. Then you should be able to move the handle out of the way to get to those two side rods and pull them together to release both tailgate latches. There's probably an easier way out there but this worked for me in the middle of the woods with no cell service to look up a video. Good Luck

Not very much. Less than 5” in the back and less than 3” in the front. The rails extend past the stake pockets, if that helps.

It had all the typical gear already loaded. We don't add bikes or anything other like that when we camp. You're right though, weight can add up fast if you aren't paying attention.

This wasn't cheap but I love it every time I turn on the AC.

Yeah, it really shows how fast you can overload a vehicle.

Ha. Great job! It definitely an improvement.

Payload is all the weight that can be added to a vehicle before it exceeds it's GVWR; a legal weight capacity. Tongue weight counts towards GVW/GVWR and against Payload. Hitch reciever ratings are a completely different thing, not a legal capacity and not typically a limiting factor in this class of trailer, at least not with a class IV or larger hitch reciever.

Thank for watching. Happy camping!

Agree 100%! I see people towing giant rigs with little trucks but I think (hope) it’s out of ignorance. This is my 4th camper and no dealer ever talked about payload. I thank Facebook groups for the education on payload and towing safely. Yeah, load rating of tires is another good conversation. Happy camping!

Could a counter weight in the back of the camper help?

Yes, a WDH definitely moves weight off the tongue and redistributes it forward and backward. Ideally 12-15% of the trailer's weight will be on the tongue. I've never been to a CAT scale to figure out exactly how much weight is on each axle with and without the WDH. It's on my list of things I want to do but never seem to have the time on the way out of town when we are completely loaded up.

No wdh will ever move 50% of TW back to the trailer...and you wouldn't want it to as that would unload the tongue and an unloaded tongue is the main cause of sway. A wdh has 1 purpose; to move TW from the the TV drive axle to it's steer axle to fix an unloaded steer axle that happens when bumper towing. A wdh sends a nominal amount of TW back to the trailer...typically around 100 lbs...just enough to offset the weight of the wdh itself.

Completely agree. I’m glad I put this in but the AC shouldn’t have to be modified to work properly.

Thanks for watching. Happy camping!

That’s my thought as well. Although, I still haven’t been able to get to a CAT scale to see exactly how much. I still don’t load additional cargo inside my truck. I really don’t want to push the payload capacity. Happy camping!

That's been my experience as well (i.e. the WDH throwing weight back onto the TT). I recently scaled my Rockwood 2109S and F150 and observed the following: Unhitched Hitched w/o WDH Hitched w/ WDH Steer Axle 3240# 2920# 3080# Drive Axle 3080# 4180# 3680# Trailer Axles 5280# 4520# 4660# Note that the lightly-loaded weight of the TT alone is 5280#, and when lowered onto the hitch, it puts 1100# onto the F150's rear axle while lifting 320# off the front axle. Significant squat there. The WDH throws 140# back onto the trailer, 160# onto the F150's front axle, and reduces the drive axle by 500#. All very interesting. These numbers would undoubtedly vary per various adjustments of the WDH, but I didn't mess with it further since the TT was level and the F150's wheel well heights (front & rear, unhitched & hitched w/ WDH) were consistent.

I’m glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.

We still have the tires that came on the camper. The standard tire is the Goodyear Endurance but our dealer ordered our camper with the “upgrade”. We got Westlake tires. I would have preferred the Goodyear but I have not had any problems out of the Westlake.

“Let the buyer beware” definitely applies here.

I did take a look and estimated that the gear in the pass-through is in the 100 pound range. Most of the items are plastic or aluminum. The heaviest thing I have in there is a small bottle jack that is in the 6-7 pound range. All my other tools are probably 5 pounds. However, the clothes, sheets, blankets, extra towels, etc are all stored on or near the bed in the front as well. Maybe 50 pounds of stuff in there?

@@Random-Dad-Stuff Aren’t the Factory Tongue Weights the as built Empty Weight?

@@doublediamondrailroad5949 I think most people are mis-informed about towing weights and how to calculate what they can safely tow. I know I was. When a manufacturer advertises that their truck can tow 10,000 pounds, that's the number everyone goes with. I knew nothing about payload when I bought my first camper. The RV dealer certainly never mentioned it. My trailer's weight is well under my truck's towing capacity but calculating the payload tells the real story. I'm at 80-85% capacity of the payload with only 2 adults, 2 dogs, and no gear in my truck.

@@Random-Dad-Stuff I towed a 2007 Wildwood 28 ft Stick and Tin that was like under 500 Tongue weight and around 4650 Empty. Gross about 6600. We never carried Water or Sewer weight. We towed it with a 2006 Dodge Durango 2WD with an upgraded rear end. Could pull 8000. We were never over 6000. Mopar Hitch was 500 capacity, but with the Equal-izer Distribution Hitch it was 900#. We never Loaded it up over 600#. Did just fine, all the way to Traverse City 3 times from E. Ohio. 😊

It’s still not perfect but my wife quit complaining about it. 😂 The truck will definitely get up and go.

Yes, you can! 😀 My cheap handle still works great.

Interesting. I've had a couple campers with this same cover and neither had those clips locked into place. I've got the camper in the driveway now. I'll climb up there and take a look. Thanks.

Sorry, I'm not really sure and the parts bag is not marked at all. I'm not sure where I would look to find that info.

@@Random-Dad-Stuff Thanks for looking.

I had an older Retrax retractable cover for a little while until it broke. I know when I looked to replace it the website had options under the vehicle selection for trucks "With Deck Rail System". The clamps it comes with are just a little different.

Sorry for the late reply on this. My truck never had an error code so I'm not really sure if this pedal will take care of that problem.

Thanks for getting back to me, I did some research, I’m not really sure how identical between the 04000-0440C compared to 781100C012, I know 04000 is a lot cheaper, your thoughts? Thanks

@@Outdoor-Adventures I was wondering the same thing myself. The part I ordered was the 04000-0440C. When I opened the box, the part in the box was stamped "78110-0C012". It seems like Toyota is using those 2 parts interchangeably.

I’ve done this fix have og the same code come up, worked fine for 10 months then the code came back. Same happen to you??

Sorry for the slow response on this. Good luck on your project! Mine is still working perfectly.