Dude honestly…I already had a TLM 103 mic…but it was just too difficult to get the vocals to feel like they fit into the mix for me so when Sony put out the C-80…I picked it up for a real good price at the time like. $459.00…I wish I could have bought that mic sooner. It’s the right mic FOR ME…I do t know about anyone else. The TLM 103 just didn’t do it for me…it was good but not great. Next I would like to say that the UAD Apollo changed my life literally. The ability to be able to EQ, compress or do whatever I need to do on the way in was a huge deal to me….i not only have better mixes but my masters come out WAY louder and I happen to know that all changed once the Apollo went into play….the next thing I added is my SSL 4000 G 72 channel 48 bus console….by plugin alliance….hahahaha! Fooled ya for a sec…I don’t think I could even be into making music without my MPC 5000…the older it gets the better it sounds…why? Because the newer sounds can’t compete with it. Don’t get mad but it’s just the truth. I bought it brand new when it came out and the way they make the sound in the newer MPC’s after the 5000 is missing quite a bit of punch….well I can’t think of anything else really…but I like the video…this was a good one!
@machupikachu1085Күн бұрын
So we learned that cabs make a huge difference...aaaaannnddd mic placement.
@BetterMixes15 сағат бұрын
aaaaannnddd the mic itself! And, maybe most importantly, the player!
@ChiefsFanfromSCAL3 күн бұрын
@bettermixes i like v13 and v11... Clarion for different reasons. If you had to buy one, which one would you choose?
@bill_simpkins4 күн бұрын
The KSM is my second favorite but it's probably also the most flexible and reliable time-tested tool in this lot. It will still be useful as a mic locker grows. Shure is also going to be around for a long long time to support their products.
@i.g.806tx4 күн бұрын
Really great video over all and the mic sounds amazing with really nice features. Only one suggestion you should have recorded the vocal performances.
@LautenAudio5 күн бұрын
Thanks for including us!
@Tom-l5c5 күн бұрын
Hey man great vid but if u ever do this type of content again could u set the cam so we coyld see the cabs it would be appreciated!
@BetterMixes5 күн бұрын
Will do! I've been trying to get better about grabbing more b-roll shots like that in my videos. Thanks for watching!
@jamescassidy40455 күн бұрын
Hey dude! Nice job! Would you be down to compare the Samar, and the Voodoo on some guitar, and maybe some other stuff one day if you get the time? I'm really curious how it, and the voodoo would compare on crunchy/distorted guitars though. No pressure though. How do you feel the two compare freq response wise? Also, was the take Re-mic'd through a monitor/speaker with each mic?
@BetterMixes5 күн бұрын
That's a great idea for a video! I was going to just do a review of the Samar, but a comparison would probably be more helpful. But until then...I find the Samar to be smoother and more neutral while the sE is a little tighter in the low end and has a more pronounced midrange. On distorted guitars, I've used both successfully and often go back and forth on which I like better. The Samar usually needs the low end tamed (assuming we're talking about a big sounding amp, I've used it a bunch on cranked up tiny amps like a Fender Champ which naturally sounds quite small and thin). The extra midrange on the sE can also be nice if you're using it as the only mic on the amp as it has a little bit of that 57 thing (certainly not to the extent of a 57, but just a little bit of that push). And no, for this video, these were all separate takes.
@jamescassidy40455 күн бұрын
@ Hey! That’s awesome dude! I agree, I love using just a ribbon by itself on a smaller amps like that. I only have a 4038 right now though, but that’s one thing it’s def great for. Yeah, that’s cool the voodoo has a bit of that extension in the higher end. Oh, really, damn dude, that’s crazy hah. Those were some perfectly matched takes. I didn’t think you’d honestly mic a take off a speaker, but I’m pretty amazed how exact they are unless you melo’d them 😂
@itsnoddykhan6 күн бұрын
Lauten clarion or Tf29 for warmth and clear high end. please help
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
I have limited experience with the Telefunken (and it's been a while), but the Clarion has been one of my main go-to vocal mics for probably about a decade at this point, so in general, I'm a big fan of it. I really like the midrange, finding that it sits really nicely into dense tracks. It's got a tiny little dip around 2 or 3k that keeps vocals from getting nasally sounding, but then it's got a lift in the top end that makes it sound more forward and modern. Like I said, I can't go too in-depth on the Telefunken as it's been a long time, and I never got a chance to compare it directly with the Lauten. There's no one perfect mic for every voice, but I 100% believe that you would never regret buying the Lauten.
@itsnoddykhan6 күн бұрын
@ How’s the low end bro, my main consideration is the low end as my vocal sounds thin on many mics after processing (hiphop/pop) like manley reference , tlm103, rode nt1 I like the u87 but it gets nasally and its way out my budget. So i thought clarion is quite similar to it with a smoother top end
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
@@itsnoddykhan I find the low end to be pretty tight and controlled. Kinda neutral in the amount, like it doesn't have an evaluated low end, but it's not lacking in it either. I've used mine on kick drum quite a bit, so the low end is definitely there. (the LA-320 by contrast, has a lot more low end, but it's not as controlled). It's definitely thicker sounding than the Manley or tlm103. Compared to an 87, that dip around 2-3k is around where the 87 is exaggerated, causing that nasal sound on some singers. So since that's a problem for you on the 87, I think you'll like that area on the Clarion.
@itsnoddykhan6 күн бұрын
@ thank you 🙏
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
@@itsnoddykhan No problem!
@xavierklaine68946 күн бұрын
why any kid is talking like expert these days ? and why youtube send me here ?? i dont want to hear this arrogant ignorant privileged child. please internet, help
@2xProducedit6 күн бұрын
Still can’t decide on the la-320 or avantone cv-12 , watchin your videos
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
A bonus of the 320 is the low-pass filter. It allows you to tailor the sound a bit to the voice/song. I find this to be really helpful at times! There's obviously never one "best" mic for every voice, but I think the 320 is a fantastic choice for that brighter, polished kind of sound. I recommend it to friends all the time. I don't think you can go wrong with it!
@2xProducedit6 күн бұрын
@ bet
@OKNOOOOOOO6 күн бұрын
Sphere mics.
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
I'd love to try their mic! I tried the Slate modelling mic and thought it was...ok, but I'd be curious to see if the Sphere is more to my liking!
@PianomanMusic966 күн бұрын
The joys of millenial producers.
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
😘
@mrnomore6 күн бұрын
i came to see the pug, not a face... shit self promoting review instead of valid info
@stevekudlacek7 күн бұрын
Great work! Very informative! Thanks so much!!!
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching!
@mirkomarkovic34387 күн бұрын
Jz v11 is the best for her voice. Seems that most people listen for the obvious (frequency response) and not what matters in a mix-sibilance, transient response&depth.
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
I've been quite happy with the JZ! I got it right before doing this shootout, but yeah, I think it sounds lovely for this style of music and gave me a sound I didn't previously have in my mic locker.
@johnp48877 күн бұрын
what about if i use the aston mic shield in the same good spot in the room?
@drewwilliams24117 күн бұрын
1. Clarion 2. V11 3. LA320 4. 4400 5. VR1 They all sounded great and were very usable. The Clarion is tight in the low mids and smooth and open in the upper frequencies.
@BetterMixes6 күн бұрын
Totally agree that they were pretty much all at least usable. And yeah, the Clarion has been one of my favorite vocal mics for probably a decade now!
@fairhazel7 күн бұрын
basically if you can sing, you can make an sm58 sound good enough for it not to matter that much
@BetterMixes7 күн бұрын
To an extent, absolutely! I think Julia could sing into a potato and I could make it work 😆 That being said, having the right mic for the singer/song can make it a lot easier to get where you're trying to go and will ultimately get you a better result. Most importantly though, having the right mic can often times make the singer perform better. I know in this case, Julia was pretty uninspired singing into the dynamic mics. She still gave a pretty solid performance, but I think over the course of an entire song, her performance likely would have suffered. Of course, there are times when a 58 totally is THE mic for the song! So I'm not hating on it at all!
@alexkubik14427 күн бұрын
Clarion wins to me. All the low mid control but still open on top. Then, I order KSM32>SE4400>JZ>Samar... That Samar was a bit of a shocker to me.
@BetterMixes7 күн бұрын
The Clarion really is a fantastic mic! It's been my go-to for probably a decade at this point! And yeah, the Samar was surprisingly cool! We actually ended up using that one for the actual song as the singer really liked singing into it.
@alexkubik14427 күн бұрын
@@BetterMixes The Samar... I wondered. I couldn't really pick out WHY I liked it better than the VR1 which I am a fan of... Wasn't listening in too critical of an environment, but I couldn't put my finger on it. But if the singer really liked it, it might simply be that it responded well to the vocal and made for a better take. I actually found it on par with the JZ. I tend to like the darker mic, but that one was really buttery. I was shocked at how much I didn't like the SM7B in the comparison.
@BetterMixes7 күн бұрын
I've generally found the Samar to be more neutral than the the VR1, which can of course sometimes be a good thing and sometimes not so good! But in this case, when we were listening back to the mics in the control room, we thought that with the Samar, if you closed your eyes, it felt like we were listening to her singing in the room as opposed to listening to a recording, which we liked for this particular song. Other songs I've done with Julia, we wanted a mic that had more character and more of 'a sound'. And yeah, I had just gotten the JZ when we did this shootout, but it did pretty much exactly what I was hoping it would do. I wanted a darker/smoother condenser as I've had a handful of singers in recently who seem to gravitate towards a darker sound, and the JZ delivers on that front!
@gh2003g7 күн бұрын
Talking more than work
@BetterMixes7 күн бұрын
😘
@itsnoddykhan7 күн бұрын
Im really confused between lauten la320 and tf 39 i want thick warm vocals is it worthy to spend extra on the telefunkun or should i go for a tlm 49/ clarion
@Nikogigineishvili8 күн бұрын
i think all mic's are great for her vocal, especially condencers and except shure dynamics :D but dont get me wrong, you can mix perfect songs with this great voice with sm58 as well, my favourite is lauten audio la-320
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
Yeah, working with a great voice certainly helps! And yeah, I felt pretty much the same way; if someone sent this to me to mix, I would have been happy with any of the mics besides the dynamics, and even those I could get to work with some extra processing. The LA-320 is an exceptional mic though!
@TheSafetysheep8 күн бұрын
That ksm32 impressed me a lot!
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
It's definitely an underrated mic!
@huberttorzewski8 күн бұрын
Clarion was the best sounding on her vocal with KSM32 close second. I think JZ V67 would be fire on her vocals too, V11 is too dark and has too little upper mids/too much upper bass
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
I've been wanting to try the V67! I'm hoping to get a few of their mics here at some point for a shootout/review.
@huberttorzewski8 күн бұрын
@BetterMixes V67 is great for vocals and overheads while V12 is great for acoustic and electric guitar (for micing guitar cabs) from my experience. I have them both and really like them
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
Very cool! I'm excited to try them at some point!
@jalapainyo8 күн бұрын
Got to go with the Clarion on her
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
One of my all time favorites!
@jalapainyo8 күн бұрын
@@BetterMixes You get what you pay for I suppose. Ever tried Mojave 300 or 301FET?
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
@@jalapainyo Not yet! I've been wanting to try out some stuff from Mojave. I'm hoping to get one for a video review later this year!
@jalapainyo8 күн бұрын
@@BetterMixes Rock on! I'll watch for it.
@tiggerplaysguitar8 күн бұрын
1st observation is that they all sounded fine: whatever your budget, just get on with your recording, and don't wait until you can afford "that" mic you've been dreaming about. My own preferences, for what it's worth, is that I really liked the sE condensers, but I've been using sE mics for a long time so maybe my ears have tuned in to them. I also really liked the Samar ribbon, and preferred that to the sE. And then of course there is Ol' Reliable, the SM58. The ones I least liked are the Warblers. Would be happy to use them, just my least favourite of the batch.
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
Absolutely! With some processing, I think any of these would be usable. And yeah, no matter your setup, someone has almost certainly made awesome sounding music with something worse! And yeah, I was surprised by how much I liked the Samar! The singer really enjoyed singing into that one, so that's what we ended up using for the actual song. I own a handful of sE mics as well and am always quite impressed by them.
@austinattack8 күн бұрын
we STAN cooper. have you ever talked about what YOUR favorite mic is?
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
Cooper says "woof". And my problem is that I love them all 😆 (well...most of them). I'm planning on making reviews of a bunch of these so that I can go into what I think they excel at and where they might not be so great.
@AquaticAudio8 күн бұрын
The LA320 seems like a perfect compromise between price and quality, at least for this type of application. I'm a little shocked how low I'd rank the SM7b since that's been my go-to for so long. I guess for a more aggressive vocal my preference would probably be different, but this was pretty eye-opening. I guess I need to get myself a Lauten haha
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
I love the LA320! It really is great bang for the buck. And yeah, I wasn't expecting to love the sm7b, but I also wasn't expecting it to be almost offensive 😆 It definitely works better in rock music where all that midrange helps it to cut through the mix (whereas something like the LA320 would probably need a little midrange EQ boost in that context). But even for rock music, I've been finding that I've personally still been preferring the sound of condensers.
@JoshuaKrell6 күн бұрын
Lauten is great man! I have their Atlantis, I traded my tlm103 in for that and have never looked back. So much more versatile.
@nkdisk9 күн бұрын
Im really confused between La 320v2 and telefunkun tf39,29 Please suggest me is it worthy enough to spend 500$ extra on the telefunkun. i need it for hip hop vocals only
@BetterMixes9 күн бұрын
It's been quite a while since I've used the Telefunken, but I had mixed results with it the few times I tried it. It's definitely a solid mic and sounded great on some voices, but on some singers the top end was a little tricky. Like overall, the top end is a little on the smoother side, but then it's got some sizzle way up there. I remember having a tough time brightening up the vocal without that sizzly frequency getting a little out of hand. I find the La320 to be much more predictable. I really like it on most singers. The only time I haven't is on people with really bright, shrill voices.
@JohnnyPbitch11 күн бұрын
pressed play...the vocal started playing....i scrolled thru the comments...bought it after reading about 5 comments...downloaded...installed...all in 1:30.
@dj_instruments93712 күн бұрын
Trying out the free trial...I'm saddened there is no automation for the parameters. Tired of using my mouse to adjust frequencies and what not.
@BetterMixes8 күн бұрын
There is automation. They don't have the shortcuts to turn on the automation/open the automation lanes in Pro Tools if that's what you mean though. That does occasionally drive me nuts on all the Kiive and Kiive-developed plugins.
@christopherharv12 күн бұрын
Way I see it, this question is like asking which is more important in making a PB&J sandwich: the peanut butter or the jelly?
@BetterMixes12 күн бұрын
I don't think your metaphor holds up very well unless you're taking the title of the video way too literally. If you watched the video, you'd know that the spirit of the question is more "which is worth upgrading first" or "owning multiple of which will give you the widest tonal variety." So a more fitting version of your metaphor might be "which is better, fancy peanut butter and cheap jelly or cheap peanut butter and fancy jelly" or "should you own a variety of peanut butters or a variety of jams," but even that is still a stretch and is only making a metaphor for the sake of making a metaphor (I'd go with fancy jelly myself).
@greetthemind13 күн бұрын
I’m a super beginner on recording drums and this was exactly what I needed. Got rid of the really bad ring in my snare but left enough in to make it still sound like a snare!
@BetterMixes9 күн бұрын
That's awesome! Glad this worked for you!
@taviqmasteringonline275413 күн бұрын
4:21 4:49
@roberteismann192914 күн бұрын
You forgot to group the phase adjustments, so the results are not optimised.
@BetterMixes14 күн бұрын
All the grouping does is allow you to enable and disable the phase adjustments of the entire group from within a single plugin. It doesn't affect the sound in any way.
@KingStudiosCollective16 күн бұрын
Oh yea I could tell. That nice air lift on the 251 👌 could tell even off the iPhone busted speaker.
@BetterMixes16 күн бұрын
The 251 is a classic for a reason! Both this singer and I thought the 251 was a little grating on her voice for this song, preferring the slightly smoother sound of the Lauten, but on a different singer or a different song, I'd probably prefer the 251's top end! I was mostly impressed that an affordable mic like the Lauten could hang with a vintage classic and even potentially be preferable in some situations.
@Timbrink0917 күн бұрын
Coles/u47
@BetterMixes14 күн бұрын
Coles really are magic on drums!
@tendingtropic777817 күн бұрын
interesting, getting closer to the competition now, is there any reason to go for oeksound bloom anymore?
@BetterMixes14 күн бұрын
I only briefly tested out Bloom, so I could certainly be missing something, but I THINK these new features are more comparable to Soothe than Bloom.
@stevec599917 күн бұрын
Thank you for your review and the great insights you share.Very much appreciate that you have your s_ _ _ so together with your reviews. To my knowledge you’ve done the only review of a drum mic mount that addresses S HOOPS , and further that you took the time to try the Lauren mic mount on each of the hoops you discuss. Great video!
@BetterMixes14 күн бұрын
Glad you liked the video! Testing on S Hoops was literally the first thing I did when I pulled these out of the box 😆
@ChiefsFanfromSCAL20 күн бұрын
I always appreciate your energy, passion and your hard work on your videos. I always pick up an idea! Thanks Mike and Merry Christmas!
@BetterMixes18 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate hearing that! And Merry Christmas to you too!
@Armadillo31221 күн бұрын
I appreciate the list, but in 2024 I just can't get myself to try plugins that look like a piece of hardware from the 80s, when there's so many innovative plugins around from devs like Sonible, Sound theory, Oeksound, Fabfilter etc.
@BetterMixes21 күн бұрын
For me, it's all about what gets me where I'm trying to go fastest. And I totally agree that sometimes hardware-style interfaces can get in the way of that. Like take the Eventide H3000 plugin; I look at that and I'm like bro...why is there a giant number pad on my plugin...what do I do with any of this? 😆 Or same thing with a lot of Lexicon-inspired reverb plugins. But on the other hand, sometimes it's the more modern tools that feel like they get in my way. Like for me personally, I haven't gotten along with any super modern take on compression. All the extra controls and visual feedback pull me out of a creative headspace. Or even with saturation, I love Spectre; it's fast and intuitive and is a perfect example of a modern design helping my workflow, but then I look at Sound Theory Kraftur and I get the same feeling I get trying to use the H3000 or Lexicon plugins I mentioned earlier. But yeah, that's just me. I love when a company pushes the boundaries and creates something new and modern, but only if it makes me work faster and easier. That's why my list here (as well as the other plugins I use on a daily basis) are about 50/50 between new/innovative and oldschool/tried and true.
@Armadillo31221 күн бұрын
@@BetterMixes Yeah, whatever works for you. I realise you mainly work on Rock music, so probably don't have a need for some crazy mulfi-fx, where as I mostly work on EDM, Pop etc. so the more out there an effect is, the better. Spectre does look interesting though. I must try it one of these days.
@bLiNdEDM21 күн бұрын
Wow! I have Futzbox by McDSP and use it often. The ec-300 must have gone under my radar so thank you for making this top list. Seems like they combined a delay with futzbox! super cool
@BetterMixes21 күн бұрын
Yeah, I love Futzbox, so when I saw they essentially added it to a delay, I knew I was going to have fun with that one!
@Cluless0222 күн бұрын
I thought the Lauten Clarion sounded brilliant. The N8 sounded incredible as I found with mine. I can see it - another bank account bites the dust!! Excellent video though, pro all the way!!
@BetterMixes21 күн бұрын
The N8 is such a great mic! I love how clear and honest it is. And the Clarion is incredibly underrated! Thanks for watching!
@coffeehigh42022 күн бұрын
LOLz
@BetterMixes22 күн бұрын
😘
@coffeehigh42022 күн бұрын
@@BetterMixes 😍
@lukegowest24 күн бұрын
I liked mic A, it actually sounded cleaner, and B also had a bit of sibilance on similar and instead, I just bought an LA-320. it should be arriving on Tuesday Dec. 24. Nice Christmas gift to me. I have a Clarion, I love it. I am still contemplating buying an Atlantis. I have asked you before about your thoughts on the Atlantis. By the way, I like the reverb you are using. I suppose it;s a plu-in ? I use all outboard gear, so I have the Lexicon, but I really like the reverb sound on this.( with both mics)
@BetterMixes24 күн бұрын
Ah very cool! I think you'll be super happy with the LA-320; it's a fantastic mic! And I would have to double check the session, but I THINK the reverb was Soundtoys Superplate on the EMT140 setting.
@lukegowest24 күн бұрын
@@BetterMixes Ah The EMT Plate! Abby Road still has a few different ones all in separate isolated rooms
@lukegowest23 күн бұрын
I have plate settings on the Lexicon. The verb you were using though souns really clean.
@BetterMixes23 күн бұрын
@@lukegowest The studio I used to work at had an EMT 140 as well, and I absolutely loved the way that thing sounded. While a bunch of plugins I've used over the years sounded good, Superplate was the first one where I was like "there's THAT sound!"
@lukegowest5 күн бұрын
@@BetterMixes Hi,Luke here again. The LA-320 has a $20 JJ ECC83S tube in it. Do you think swapping it with a Telefunken ECC83 would make enough of a difference to justify The $80 price? I know it would be speculation unless of course you have done a tube swap in the LA-320. I have a Rode K-2 tube mic, and I put a Telefunken tube in it, and it made a big favorable difference. Thanks
@2und2sind424 күн бұрын
Is that Vox cab closed or open back?
@BetterMixes24 күн бұрын
It's closed back.
@lukegowest25 күн бұрын
Are you speaking into the 320 for the audio of this video, or is it just sitting in front of you for looks? another question: I have the Clarion, and I love the way it sounds on my voice.In your opinion, would I want or need to get an Atlantis? Does the Atlantis sound like the Clarion in cardioid in the forward position? I know the Atlantis has a larger diaphram by 3mm, so does it have a compleatly different sound than the Clarion? I know that's a lot of questions, but what I am trying to decide is, should get an Atlantis if I am happy with the Clarion? Thanks
@BetterMixes24 күн бұрын
Yup, I'm speaking into the 320! Regarding the Clarion vs the Atlantis, they're totally different mics with different sounds. I always wondered that too, if the Atlantis was just like an expanded version of the Clarion, but nope! I'd say if you're happy with the Clarion, stick with it! It's a top-quality mic, and moving to the Atlantis would just be different, not better. I personally think the Clarion is highly underrated in Lauten's lineup.
@lukegowest24 күн бұрын
@@BetterMixes Yes I agree The Clarion is a very top quality mic. I think the Lauten mics have a certain Family sound. I am not looking for another Clarion in the Atlantis. I do want it to be different,but with the same quality and character. I do use different mics on my vocals depending on the style of song I am doing. I do not just make recordings of thee same genre always so if I am recording a big band vocal recording I am going for a warmer more sultry sound. If it is a pop song, a more up front sound etc. do you think there is a setting on the Atlantis that might be close enough to the Clarion to use them together in a Blumlien configuration?
@BetterMixes24 күн бұрын
@@lukegowest Yeah, there's definitely a bit of a family sound between them! So I think most people who like the Clarion would also like the Atlantis. So in that sense, it could be a great option! As far as the blumlein setup, I guess it depends how picky you are about the sounds matching. Like I have some friends who will only ever used matched stereo pairs for stereo recordings and others who will use completely different mics! Again, having that family sound, I think a stereo setup could still sound cohesive and not sound weird or off, but the left and right will definitely be a little different.
@anywherenearzero25 күн бұрын
If you move your teleprompter further away you wont see you reading it