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@stephencourtney324 Сағат бұрын
Amazing videos! Quick one - is it normal to feel vibrations through the steering wheel when the compressor is running? Noticeable when stationary and mostly during winter or high temps in summer? It's not violent or anything but very noticeable. Hopefully it's normal 🤞
@garycevrepairs 37 минут бұрын
Hi yes the compressor can vibrate quite a bit which you feel through the steering wheel. The ac compressor is a bit undersized for the system, it’s a heat pump and dual ac system with the battery cooling loop. If it’s making a metallic noise/grinding then that could be a sign of low gas but a fair bit of vibration is normal. If concerned get the gas level checked. Cheers
@bernardcharlesworth9860 11 сағат бұрын
Bearing manufacturers like skf publish an interesting set of bearing failure pictures. Also vibration analysis technology is so good that it will identify failure modes.overheat is sometimes a problem as it can reduce the temper of the bearing mounting surfaces
@garycevrepairs 9 сағат бұрын
Interesting thanks. I will see if my grinder can cut through the outer race on a failed bearing so I can get the ball bearings out and see what they look like. Cheers
@zev-t6y 5 сағат бұрын
Utterly unnecessary. Just pry open the ball cage then you can bring it to bits by hands alone (you'd only be reversing once again... the assembly process)
@garycevrepairs 2 сағат бұрын
I’ve tried, albeit with limited time, they are quite small bearings and will not open fully with usual percussive methods. I got the shield off but the cage is also metal and it’s pretty tight in there. Cheers
@philip8742 13 сағат бұрын
Thinking about the way the Zoe uses the electromagnet in place of a neodymium magnet did make me wonder if that had something to do with the short lifetimes... I also wonder how much of an effect a leadfooted vs featherfoot driving style makes?
@garycevrepairs 12 сағат бұрын
It’s interesting, the previous Zoe motor I rebuilt was an R90 variant so a bit lower power and made it to 116k before needing a rebuild whereas this one is 70 something k and is an R110 variant so more powerful…
@dougowt 17 сағат бұрын
Really interesting stuff Gary. I've been wondering if one of these or a Zoe might do for my father to run around locally. I can't help thinking that if you have a Zoe, Leaf, iMiev or similar, dropping a new battery in with the latest energy density, would give them a massive boost in usefulness. I know this would require software and some hardware changes and what people will want to spend will relate to the value of the car, but I for one would be very interested in keeping an older EV long term, especially if it has a decent range and faster charging capability. The cost of new batteries is still dropping rapidly and I suspect that some of the boffins that already faff about with EVs, will find they can use a CCS charge port and inverter off a written off X or Y. I had a 2014 Kangoo ZE max and that would have been so much better with better range and CCS charging. There was plenty of space underneath for a second battery and I was not carrying heavy loads, so overall weight was not an issue. There's got to be a market for this, and the tech gets cheaper and knowledge improves. In the meantime, its great to see you keeping these cars on the road, without breaking the bank.
@garycevrepairs 12 сағат бұрын
Hi yes there are people who do battery upgrades for the i-miev although it is rather expensive for an old car and may not have been through the same rigorous safety testing as a production vehicle. That being said there needs to be more options to extend the life of older vehicles with worn batteries. Cheers.
@NckBrktt 19 сағат бұрын
I'm always amazed just how small those bearing are. Anyone who has ever taken a hobby astronomical telescope mount apart will find very similar sized bearings. Mounts typically rotate at 1 revolution per day, carry about 30kg of load and are powered by a 20Watt motor.
@garycevrepairs 18 сағат бұрын
Ha that’s a nice comparison 😄
@bobdeverell 20 сағат бұрын
Manufacturers 'could' design-out the 12v battery by using a voltage downconverter from the HV battery. This would need to be 'always-on' and independent of the HV contactor. This is a potentially risky solution, making it difficult to protect the HV battery as it discharges when the car is idle. It is hard to see the replacement of the 12/24/48v battery in the near term.
@garycevrepairs 18 сағат бұрын
It’s coming, as mentioned in the video some newer cars have a separate low voltage supply from the hv battery. Cheers
@steveworth544 22 сағат бұрын
Interesting video- what mileage had the car achieved please?
@garycevrepairs 18 сағат бұрын
Hi 70 something thousand. Cheers
@michaelhenson-r3i 23 сағат бұрын
Hello , Did you do a earth leakage test on the windings and the rotor after you had re assembled the motor ? Also , just a suggestion, turning the motor vertical, make a lifting eye to fit on the brush end of the rotor and lift it out vertically with a light weight gantry. just a suggestion.
@newty8150 23 сағат бұрын
Super interesting 👍 How long did that take you roughly?
@garycevrepairs 16 сағат бұрын
Hi probably about 2.5 hours, I prefer to take my time and do it properly. It takes long enough to fit, you don’t want to have to take it out again 😆
@stevewhitmill2037 Күн бұрын
Far to complex. You really dont need this.
@JonathanPorterfield Күн бұрын
Great video , cheers 🍻 👏
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Thanks 👍
@rogerfroud300 Күн бұрын
They mostly aren't. Most of what needs fixing is simple brakes, suspension and steering. The power train is very simple too. The only thing that makes anything expensive is the required training to handle the high voltage side of the system. At the moment there aren't many who are trained, so those repairs are more expensive than they need to be. There hasn't been enough time for 3rd party suppliers to produce even cheaper spare parts yet, but that will come. It's not about complexity. Early adopters always pay more for their purchases.
@ohmygoth5899 Күн бұрын
Lools like they tried to save a few pence and used bearing way way to small and really not fit for purpose
@garycevrepairs 10 сағат бұрын
I’ve not taken many different motors apart as I’ve been concentrating on these Zoe ones so I don’t have many to compare but I can’t see it would have added much cost to have slightly bigger bearings !
@zev-t6y 5 сағат бұрын
Pretty sure they knew exactly what they were doing. There's even an expression coined fot that: planned obsolescence
@bernardcharlesworth9860 Күн бұрын
I think there will be businesses in a few years selling rebuilt motors and pce's.but needing to coding it to the vehicle vin is not really ethical in my opinion.
@rangleri Күн бұрын
You are amazing man! This is super investigative work on Zoes that we don't really see elsewhere. So happy to see these videos always👍 Okay but let's think about the bearings, This rust on the surface of the bearing looks so much like pitting from electric current damage🤔Now it looks very likely that electric currents are contributing to the bearing failures on these motors. It is common on variable drive AC motors. If that is the case, when you open the bearings and cut them open, you may see grease is "burned" dark and there can be fluting patterns on raceways, or matted surfaces. When is gets worse, bearing balls also can get damaged and bigger pieces will get off, these damages will start generating heat. It is so weird how little amount of hours are on this bearings, and they fail already. I started thinking if it is possible that currents are induced in the motor shaft during charging too because Zoe motor is a charger inductor...but this would be crazy.
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Hi thank you! Glad you are enjoying the videos, I’ve been amazed by the response I’ve had. From chatting to a few people it has been mentioned that the cause could be discharge from the rotor to the case. The Nissan Leaf has a magnetised rotor and interestingly has a single carbon brush on the rotor to make sure it is at the same potential as the case so that there is no discharge through the bearings. The Zoe motor of course only has the two brushes required for rotor excitation. One of the reasons I favour fitting metal shielded bearings is because this gives another path for discharge rather than through the bearings and they are still reasonably well sealed from any dust or moisture. Need to do more analysis on old failed bearings (I’ve got plenty 😆) but of course the main push is to get the cars fixed tho I like learning how stuff works and why it fails so I will do that investigation one day! Cheers.
@mondotv4216 23 сағат бұрын
@@garycevrepairsI think the quality of the motor housing might be an issue. It seems to be just diecast aluminium rather than a more corrosion resistant alloy. I'm wondering if the corrosion between the mating surfaces is causing a slight angular deviation between the spindle and the housing which contains the bearing receiver - it wouldn't take much, given the speed and torque the motor develops to destroy the bearing. I think the electrical arcing theory is also a good one.
@zev-t6y 4 сағат бұрын
As an irony the "permanent" magnet "brushless" motors aren't either. So Zoe may be the only car carrying its own real charger. But Renault patented the Cameleon and the rest of the world went DC charging (ie external) There's only so much a smack of grease can do for lifetime reliability; another issue is two separate shafts, which leads to misalignment and splines issues. Solvable with some modifications
@EbenBransome Күн бұрын
To smooth slip rings with very small grooving really you want a diamond file and then some jeweller's rouge before final clean. Diamond files are not expensive. The "official" way is to turn the rings in a lathe but that assumes you have a lathe.
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Interesting info, thanks!
@trevorhartley5166 Күн бұрын
Do you know the manufacturer of these bearings
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Hi the bearing specs, make etc are detailed in a member video. Video membership to my channel is £1.99/m, some information takes a lot of time/investigating/buying access to systems and collating to find out so it can’t really just be given away but I’ve made the membership as cheap as possible and will keep adding member videos. Thanks. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKGmpnpve8djsNE
@G6EJD Күн бұрын
The IET defines any DC voltage above 35v as being lethal, so image what a 400v EV battery would do to a human if touched - there wouldn’t be much left!
@filippxx 23 сағат бұрын
Don't need a separate small battery, a DC-DC converter can do that.
@G6EJD 23 сағат бұрын
@ yes of course, but most current EV were / are an derivative of an ICE vehicle design and from a manufacturing viewpoint it was almost certainly a sensible design decision to re-use the underlying infrastructure. Newer designs now do-not have a 12v auxiliary battery. It’s easy to say just add an inverter or voltage regulator but that needs fundamental changes to all the designs.
@Thereishope664 Күн бұрын
If you own an out of warranty I-Pace then I'd advise getting an extended Jaguar warranty. It'll cost £1000 but it gives you peace of mind and they'll cover everything. My I-pace had it's boot gas struts replaced under the warranty (they cost £260 each). Servicing costs are minimal and every 2 years.
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Good idea, the boot hatch struts are very common to fail. Cheers
@Thereishope664 Күн бұрын
An I-Pace also has another very small 12V battery. When it goes the car shuts down. I believe it's on early models and is for DSC and steering etc. Jaguar will charge £500 to change. eBay have them for £99.
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Hi, indeed ipaces up to 2020 have 2x 12v batteries, after 2020 there is only one. Cheers
@spankeyfish Күн бұрын
Reminds me that the Leaf used to have an optional solar panel in the spoiler that was purely to charge the 12V battery.
@FlyinGuitarpilot Күн бұрын
It’s a great car despite all the negative bull put out about it. I have had my second hand one for a year now, no problems at all and the best value vehicle I ever bought.
@rkan2 2 күн бұрын
Don't forget to put some lithiym in there instead of lead acids... Life/ypo4 if it doesn't go freezimg or LTO if it does..
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
To be honest I wouldnt recommend that. The charging profile is designed for lead acid and it may cause an error as the car will see an unexpected charge/discharge profile. I would advise fitting a quality lead acid battery of the correct type and changing it as recommended (every 3 years for a Zoe). Cheers.
@mariebaxter473 Күн бұрын
@@garycevrepairs Good call, as lipo needs a voltage sensor to be within .1 of a volt and old school lead acid is way less fussy on over charging or they would have just tapped off the main pack to get 12 volts.
@mwahlgreen 2 күн бұрын
Wow what thing to do in a tent of all places... Nice job. Wonder where you get the torque settings from? Was having the idea of doing my ball bearings in the motor before it starts to brake down (160k km, ZE40 Q90 from 2017)
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Hi, torque settings are from the Renault aftermarket information system. All manufacturers must legally provide service and repair information. Cheers
@kellyeye7224 2 күн бұрын
Crazy concept that an 'immobile' vehicle can still kill you. You'd have to drop an ICE car onto someone working on it to do that!
@thomashoarau310 2 күн бұрын
Hello, where do you find parts ? do you have the reference (bearing for motor) thanks
@garycevrepairs 2 күн бұрын
Hi I will detail the bearings in a member video. Thanks.
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Hi please see member videos for bearing details. Cheers kzbin.info/aero/UUMOdj1IC_BRsLxjGt6_rIs3zw
@st200ol 2 күн бұрын
I think I’ll just get a mid priced battery and one of those Bluetooth battery monitors to keep an eye on it.
@stevep2053 2 күн бұрын
Enjoying your vids, you might be interested in this series on a VW ID3 repair. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lamTp5eiZ5yJrKcsi=wjebxgHxlhox_QN8
@garycevrepairs 2 күн бұрын
Thanks
@stevep2053 Күн бұрын
He resets the pyro fuse inside the battery
@robsmith1a 2 күн бұрын
I think the short life of 12V batteries in EVs is a real annoyance (they seem to last at least twice as long in ICE cars).. Do lithium 12V batteries last longer in EVs?
@garycevrepairs 2 күн бұрын
They should last longer but I don’t think there are enough EVs with lithium batteries to tell for sure. I have seen a couple of Model 3 with the lithium battery which has gone flat and doesn’t see able to be revived. I wouldn’t just swap your lead acid for a lithium battery. Cheers
@MrKOenigma 2 күн бұрын
I'm going to replace the 12v battery in my ze50 next week. Anything special to consider?
@garycevrepairs 2 күн бұрын
In summary, yes. I can do a member only video covering it. Cheers
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Hi please see member videos for the procedure. Cheers kzbin.info/aero/UUMOdj1IC_BRsLxjGt6_rIs3zw
@MrKOenigma Күн бұрын
Thank you, I just became a member, I will look into that. Thanks so much for your support & work
@mondotv4216 2 күн бұрын
Given that you're in the UK it doesn't seem like the ideal solution. In Australia we'd have simply built a shed out of galvanised steel. You can buy them in kit form - say a 3.75m x 7.5m shed would cost you around $AU2800 or about £1400. Maybe allow £500 for a concrete floor if you want to keep the water out completely. I'm sure there's reasons to go for such a flimsy solution - maybe council approval's difficult, but it looks like you're fairly rural. Maybe sheds are a lot more expensive in the UK?
@garycevrepairs 2 күн бұрын
We will be building a proper double garage at some point soon so just wanted a quick temporary solution. Cheers
@garycevrepairs 2 күн бұрын
We will be building a proper double garage at some point soon so just wanted a quick temporary solution. Cheers
@Altair885 2 күн бұрын
That looks quite labour intensive! Obviously not designed for high mileages then? I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of these getting scrapped soon, seems a bit controversial given that they are supposed to be better environmentally. Re bearings. It seems fairly obvious they're going to fail in such an application. These are sealed for life bearings so they're running in the same lubrication continually. In many industrial motors there used to be a reservoir and an oilway into the bearing so that fresh lubrication could be added occasionally. High speed sealed bearings aren't designed to last forever, especially relatively lightweight ones such as those.
@garycevrepairs 2 күн бұрын
Hi yes very labour intensive unfortunately as the whole front end has to come off to access the motor. I’m not sure what’s causing the bearings to fail, they should last a long longer as the car is used for a couple of hours max as you’d need to stop to recharge after that so it shouldn’t be that hard on the bearings ! Cheers.
@Altair885 2 күн бұрын
@garycevrepairs Yeah, you'd expect a motor to give you a bit longer than that. But then there are a lot of factors involved, speed probably being one of the biggest, and of course vibration. Running at those speeds the rotor only needs a very slightly imbalance to induce a hammering action on the bearing. I presume the rotor is quite heavy in these? I've worked on diesel gensets and have rebuild a few alternators over the years so I've got an idea what sort of weight it's likely to be. Those sets only ran at 1500rpm, even so the bearings were substantially heavier comparatively for an alternator of a similar size, and even they would wear out after a few thousand hours! Even if the rotor was perfectly balanced, which is unlikely as it's aircooled and likely to be contaminated with debris over time anyway, there's always the electromagnetic effects to consider. I know these motors are three phase which considerably better than single phase, but even so they can suffer from having different field strengths creating an imbalance. At thousands of rpms that's all going to have an effect on bearing life over time. Is it just the motors in Renault EVs that start to show signs of wear at such early mileages, or is this a general problem in most EVs? I notice there seems to quite a few breakers now offering EV traction mothers for sale, so I was wondering if there's a big demand for them now? Cheers.
@garycevrepairs Күн бұрын
Hi, interesting insight thanks. The rotors are about 15kg and are balanced at the factory when new. Certain Kia and Hyundai cars plus the Jaguar ipace are also suffering from motor issues but generally they are quite reliable. Cheers
@kellyeye7224 3 күн бұрын
I've got one too but I'm lucky enough to have a wood platform that it screws down to. Solid. Works well. Anyone who owns a decent poly tunnel will understand the need for secure fastening down!
@steveunderwood3683 3 күн бұрын
Some corrosion after 14 years is to be expected, but worn suspension after 27k miles doesn't sound good. Do these things wear fast, or is that 27k miles bogus?
@garycevrepairs 3 күн бұрын
The mileage is genuine I believe, these do suffer from some corrosion underneath and aren’t that beefy. Cheers.
@03056932 3 күн бұрын
Very clear narration. Breath of fresh air.
@garycevrepairs 3 күн бұрын
Thanks!!! Consider joining the channel for less than the cost of a coffee per month. Link in the description. Cheers.
@petew8388 3 күн бұрын
Not interested in any of this EV garbage, thank goodness !
@stanleymilgram4788 3 күн бұрын
If I wanted to get an EV, would it be worth doing a course like you did to save money in the long run? Or find a good guy like you to just fix it?
@garycevrepairs 3 күн бұрын
Unless you want to work on multiple EVs or have an EV repair project then it’s probably best to find a reasonably priced garage like a Hevra approved one. Cheers
@user-bz9cb8bp2y 3 күн бұрын
To think my £100 1.6 diesel car lasted 232 thousand miles (body rotted away 😢) and gave me free motoring for 8 yrs, 6 months..... My new diesel might last longer 👍♥️🇬🇧
@nickp3702 4 күн бұрын
I know you haven’t got this option but when I used one a few years ago, I drilled and secured the feet into my driveway. The frame itself was rock solid but in high winds the cover did cause me a degree of anxiety!
@teardowndan5364 4 күн бұрын
For battery-side issues, we need modular standards so bad battery packs can easily be repaired or upgraded one module at a time. If such standards existed, we'd have 5-10kWh modules with prices that track closer to cell prices. Pop the battery armor plate/cover off from the bottom, remove the problematic module(s), pop the new one(s) in, put the cover back on, done, $1500-2000 per module, 2h of time to remove the cover and put it back on including removing sealant residue and putting new sealant on, ~5min per module for the swap itself. The other major obstacle to EV repair is how access to most modules is locked behind expensive scan tool and OEM server subscriptions. Having the parts does you no good without access to the necessary programming tools, firmware updates and whatever other software locks OEMs put in their hardware to prevent DIY/independent service.
@steveunderwood3683 4 күн бұрын
Even when you try to work with the car maker's own dealers, they end up shipping an EV to somewhere far away, as they only seem to have a few workshops around the country set up to service EVs. Only the most basic regular servicing seems to occur at the nearest dealer's workshop (unless that happens to be one of the limited number that handle EVs, of course).
@garycevrepairs 4 күн бұрын
Yes I’ve seen cars being moved around the country if it needs a battery repair for example. They really don’t seem to invest in training their technicians well nationwide. It’s almost as if they would rather sell you a new car than fix the old one!!
@paolot8494 4 күн бұрын
Amazing !!!! Can u tell me if the bearing failure in "mathematically presente" in all zoes After a soecific mileage or have u knowledge of certain zoes with no problems for all their lives ?
@garycevrepairs 4 күн бұрын
Hi well this one got to 116k miles but it is an R90 type so slightly lower power which may have helped. It seems common after 70k miles. Seems inevitable.
@PeterStaniforth 4 күн бұрын
An electric motor is basically the engine, so manufacturers just see them as that and price them accordingly, even if it only cost them several hundred to make. It's called "screwing the customer" they've been doing it years and now that electric cars have less parts to go wrong, they have to make up for that by making everything that's left way more expensive. Twats.
@Chris-f7s2y 4 күн бұрын
They are simple, until they go wrong of course. This is another reason why EVs in their present form are unsustainable. Add this to the list of other reasons.
@garycevrepairs 4 күн бұрын
Modern petrol and diesel cars are also immensely complicated.
@MrAvant123 4 күн бұрын
EV's may be green but how is it green to have to throw a car away after 6 or 7 years when an ice vehicle can last 15+ years if reasonably well cared for !!!!!!!
@garycevrepairs 4 күн бұрын
You may want to watch my video repairing an 8 year 116k mile EV! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eobXl2SKr7ytsMk
@johnkeen2345 4 күн бұрын
Very interesting video Gary. Why do they make things so difficult.
@Ian.Gostling 4 күн бұрын
The problem you dont face up to is the very reason why EVs are even a thing is because of a false narative they are built on. The Climate crisis lie.
@garycevrepairs 4 күн бұрын
Thats way outside the scope of my channel!!!
@Ian.Gostling 4 күн бұрын
@garycevrepairs cheers mate no offence intended!