I really liked your breakdown on how black characters are made to portray stereotypes, even ones that are supposedly meant to be progressive. It's kind of crazy how black characters have a history of being used more for "representation/equality" than for actual dynamic characters, and it really does have a negative effect on real life communities, even with better intentions from producers.

Personally, from the few episodes I've seen, I always thought Dijonay was the prettiest. Also, being colorist is horrible, as is perpetuating stereotypes. Please, please think before you say!

I’m gonna be really generous Like massively wealthy corporation the day before tax season generous. And say the writers were probably just dense and didn’t even think about how they portrayed Dijonay compared to Penny. Like l Dijonay is every 2000s show best friend character, the dumb/jerk best friend who makes things worse, she’s Heifer from Rockos modern life, Patrick from SpongeBob, the Flea from Mucha Lucha, etc etc. But since they’re meant to Represent with a capital R darker skinned black girls, it made this in a vaccum harmless trope of the best friend who’s funny because theyre a jerk. And made it seriously problematic because they never considered the implications the new context creates. And the Zoey stuff I wonder if they wanted to distract from it rather than actually fix it, maybe they really like how Dijonay is written, like they find her character hilarious, so if they unite her and Penny behind going after Zoey that’ll make everyone not as mad! When that’s honestly kinda worse since now it makes all of them look bad.

I often find it hard to tell my father about my dating life as my partner is white, and he finds interacical love odd. Even though, I find black women attractive. Being maybe a caramel? (Idk what my tone is) I've suffered from some anixety and fear of my own existence. Thinking I was uglier, and the fact the Proud Family in a sense reinforce it, makes me sad. As I think Tiana is in a interacial relatioship.

Sadly specifically black women have to walk on eggshells to be seen as not crazy the sterotypes really harm them and promoting the stereotypes just makes things worse

26:50 "act stevie wonder to it, is the funniest phrase ive ever heard to describe turning a blind eye to something Ever I laughed out loud it just caught me so off guard (Also this is a wonderful essay)

the walking dead season 2 was my fav too!!! I still think abt the scene where clem was like "I knwo what you guys were talking about. Kissing and stuff" i have to sit down and replay it sometime. This is an Excellent list! I love seeing different visual novels you have on here. I need to try raptor boyfriend. If you like visual novels and horrific imagery you should check out Slay The Princess! The music is lovely and the characters are great as well theres so many different paths to go down for that one. Id also check out Please Miss Me On itchio. its horror visual novel and if you like apocalpyse settings this is a great one! And while this one isnt horror themed magical warrior diamond heart is really cute! Its not finished yet but the demo is on steam and its defs worth checking out!

Honestly I think the episode should gone like this the light skin boy would have got interested in Zoe and then the same girl they they said she's he's into white girls instead of getting jealous and mad at Zoe there worried about Zoe because let me remind you Zoe never had much luck with guys and they really thought this time someone actually loved her for her so they look for evidence tell Zoe found spying on them and zoe is right upset because let's face it if your friends are spying you while your with out knowledge you be upset too the girls tried to tell about her boyfriend but she didn't believe them so falsh to a week Zoe is dating him and see him acting strange like he talked down to other girls who darker than him Zoe find it strange but she didn't think much of it at first but then he started to be racist and he said out of the blue he said man I'm so glad I got a white girl Zoe he being heartbroken she broke up with him and this is them at the prom Zoe sit alone the girls walk up to her about to apologize for spying on them but then Zoe says it's okay and besides you were right he's really is into white girls racist to his own kind so they all make up and Zoe see the nerdy boy walk up to her and Zoe ask in question and he gave the same answer and all ends well Plus the girls who have boyfriends wasn't drooling over him

Can't get over how smart of an analysis title this is

Yeah it happens with white men too. I (German-American) have been told by white men that i’ll never be pretty or curvy and i’m flat and ugly because i’m white. I was told i’d never be as beautiful as black women. I honestly think men just dont like women

Zoey is a genuinely pretty girl and a sweetheart, I have to admit I was genuinely convinced that this guy actually was interested in her for her, it's very unfortunate that that wasn't the case but it wasn't her fault the guy or her friend's were being jerks 😢😢😢😢😢

In reference to your point on the rise of single mother families, it's more of a systemic sexism as the factors of where a woman with the help of the government can remove a father from the family can affect all families regardless of race. This can be made worse with how divorce and family court is heavily stacked against the father In regards to the men that willingly leave the family, a thing that's never considered is the woman's choice to have a child with a man not willing to be a parent yet. We've all heard tales of women trying to snag a man by getting pregnant. For the longest time women have been able to separate their consent to sex from their consent to parenthood. Men have never been able to separate these consents. Hell, they can't even say no to parenthood even if they've no to sex. In regards to Noah, I see it more as men just aren't allowed to have a preference when it comes to a partner. If he does announce a disinterest in his female caller, he's liable to be called some form of bigot and if that doesn't apply, his masculinity gets challenged or he's called gay.

Thank you for bringing up all these points in the video. I never knew about these points, and learned a lot!

I loved the show it was hilarious! I was excited for the reboot, but anxious. So far the reboot has been okay, not as good, for me personally. But this episode, I feel really missed the mark

Interesting video. This just reaffirms my decision not to watch the show lol. Also as a side note i think it’s important to clarify that your video isn’t trying to debunk the concept of colorism. I’ve been scrolling through the comments, and a lot of people are just outright denying that colorism exists or are trying to say it’s simply a preference, which was not what you intended to say. There are even more comments defending Zoey and while I believe it’s true that she shouldn’t have been the villain, there was a point in the episode where her friends confronted her about Noah’s reputation for only dating white girls and she outright accuses them of lying, which to me makes her much less sympathetic. Because how are you gonna pick a guy over your lifelong friends and how are you gonna pretend that colorism isn’t a thing when this is your friends reality? She’s not completely blameless, but she doesn’t deserve as much hate as she got

Atleast the best thing to come from this episode is everyone fkn waking the fk up about the zoey abuse in ALL the episodes. They were always pushing zoey or dragging zoey or pressuring zoey with thier stupid ass ideas and drama and zoey always hesitated and tried to tell them it was a bad idea. But if ziey didn't participate or vote in favor of the majority, apparently zoey ain't a real friend. The minute they get caugth and run to save thier own asses and leave penny and her stupid failed ideas in the fkn dust you all played the same tired ass fkn line of "Penny's friends aint shit" It was always PENNY'S ideas and drama! Wtf...

Dijonay Jones' design is literally like a minstrel show. Dark skin, large red lips, and clown behavior. It's so terrible!

Literally could have had the plot that D was angry and hurt but cant express it, Z freaking loved having attention and felt hurt her friends ditched her with Penny being caught in the middle with being light skinned.They have a huge fight putting pressure on Penny to "chose a side" when ultimately they realize that this is racism pitting women against each when Penny explodes about this situation being another way she has to manage other expectations and not be "angry black woman", D. finally opens up on her experience with colorism and Zoey tries to apologize when they stop her and make up. Episode ends with Zoey sitting down with Pennys mom (a flashback) where she talks about the dynamics she grew up with and a friend that was an ally, when sexism/colorism pitted them against each other and ended the friendship.Z says she hopes they could talk again someday and leaves, when Pennys mom picks up the phone while looking at an old photo revealing that she was in a similar mixed friendgroup and she asks if they can talk.Epsiode ends!

I was never a fan of the original series, and honestly I have a hard time understanding why some people liked it. Even in the original, it seemed pretty malicious. Most of the characters are walking stereotypes, and had the show been written/made by a writer of another race, it would have been derided as quite racist. Dijonnay somewhat looks and definitely acts like a racial caricature, and her family is a denegrating depiction of less affluent Black Americans. Zoey is uncool to the "friend" group and undesireable because she is caucasian. Lacienaga is a stereotypical "spicy" hispanic. The Gross Family are depicted as "super black" by being literally blue in a show where no one else is any other unnatural color. Michael is clearly Gay and mocked for being so, though sadly this was common in most US based shows at the time and not unique to The Proud Family. The Chang triplets have a cliche family name, massive teeth, are academic over-achievers, and in all honesty they are probably triplets to distract the audience that the show creators are depicting all Asians as looking the same. I'm especially perturbed by these choices, as since the show originated in the early 2000s, these design choices were almost certainly affected by the then recent history of Korean/Black American relations in 1980s-1990's California. These choices for design feel like a way for the team to take a cheap shot at Asian Americans. I don't think the original or reboot are anything that would be desireable for Black Americans to have depicting them. The horrible behavior of Penny's friends in their treatment of her, animation quality that was not great and only gotten worse in the reboot, and plenty of other issues should deter anybody from liking it. If anyone reading this want cool and interesting Black characters in animation, please seek out Tutenstein, Filmore!, Winx Club, W.I.T.C.H., The Boondocks (For Teens/Adults), Static Shock, and the Spiderverse movies. I promise that these shows are infinitely more fulfilling than this. You don't have to settle for mediocrity.

I personally think that being an activist should very much not be labeled as masculine. You can be a feminine woman who fights for your rights. That was an issue I had with this video. I do agree however that representing POC to be always "combative" and "argumentative" has led to further discrimination against them.

As much as I would've loved to see a Swan Princess Disney movie with a black princess, you know asshats would be losing their shit over it because "OMG!! WHY IS SHE BLACK??? THE STORY IS RUSSIAN AND ODETTE SHOULD BE WHITE!!! HOW DARE DISNEY BLACK WASH ONE OF MY FAVORITE PRINCESSES AND CATER TO THE WOKE MOB!!! MY CHILDHOOD IS RUINED!!!" and Disney would've balked or completely made her being black irrelevant because they're too afraid of not getting the racists' money. It's honestly embarrassing that people refuse to be fucking normal about this shit and cry victimhood, even though they are the same people who will harass anyone outside the cishet able-bodied white neurotypical box they exist within and accuse the rest of us of "self-victimization" and how "shameful" and "embarrassing" that is. As for my favorite Disney princesses, I actually do have a soft spot for Tiana, even though Disney fumbled her depiction, and I attribute that to Anika Noni Rose's vocie acting. I also love Belle and Moana, and for the lesser-known Disney Princesses, I absolutely adore Kida (although she became a Queen at the end of Atlantis), and I love Brandy's Cinderella from the made-for-TV adaptation of the Rodger and Hammerstein musical. I love her rendition of "In My Own Little Corner" and her duet with Whitney for "Impossible" - which I still hum to this day!

When i saw the thumbnail, i tought this was Internet Anarchist. But when i heard Ranboos voice i was, "hold up! Who made this!?"

What's wild is a lot of the teenagers who watched this when it aired are now middle-aged adults who cry and moan about "WOKE!" whenever any reference to race is brought up. Thank you for this video. It would be great to see society progress rather than regress as it has the past 9 years

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I will say colorism is just a thing that unfortunately exists in every community. Its still hard to answer why outside eurocentric beauty standards. However i wonder if thats truly the only only reason. Also i want to point out its not most black men that prefer light skin women. Its most perverted men prefer that. Since lets be truly honest, preferences are valid. However if your sexual preferences go as far as you can only feel sexually attracted to lighter skin colors or certain hair types/color or eye colors... etc etc.. then in my opinion thats no longer preferences, but instead you trying to satisfy your kinks. I say that because for me the only thing i consider sexual is someones naked body and if they are physically fit, and stuff. Also their height, then their face obviously. Any grouo of people of any complexion can fit my standards. After all its not difficult to have a good looking body and decent face. So i can never understand how skin color or hair color or texture can even apply in preferences, thats just going too far and juat starts becoming abnormal in my opinion. However i only say that to make the people that try to use irrational logic to defend those preferences as being normal. Since in actuality the reason they dont want to accept is that their preferences stem from stereotypes and racism.

14:04 standing up/calling out racism is masculine?? I might’ve interrupted wrong but ??

tbh between this, using autism speaks, and playing lip-service to "anti-mixed race marriage laws bad but we will be mad at the NDNs who couldn't marry black people in OK and treat them like they were in the wrong for not wanting to leave what little community they had to marry Suga Mama" Louder and Prouder has been a weak product.

11:39 That comment made me angry, of course Christopher Columbus discovered America. To discover is to show the whole world new information. I have never heard of the Vikings or the Indians (yes, I called them Indians because they are Indians, the Spanish were looking for the Indias and since they were looking for the Indias they called the locals Indians, what Marco Polo called the Indias became India {singular} when the English arrived) and I have never heard of others people or countries revealing to the world the existence of another continent. Christopher Columbus was not a saint but I do recognize that he discovered America.

I’ve never seen either show but (as a Latina) the name LaSeinica feels so racist and I feel like that’s also something that needs to be analyzed (by a Latina ofc)

Let's be honest, this episode was all an excuse to rip on the white character without repercussion, because she "deserved" it for being white. This wasn't "girl power" or anything, it was pure hate for the one character who was always kind, awkward, socially shy, etc.

yeah as someone who ended up marrying outside of my own race, I REALLY hate the notion that I BELONG to my own race first... like no I will date whoever I want and the men of my race have NO claim on me.

I thought Trudy was Latina 😂

not the "nutmeg"💀💀💀💀💀

I agree with everything but have one note: a lot of Americanized Indian guys hate on brown girls just as much. I’m black and one of my closest friends is Indian, and we’ve had lengthy talks about how it feels like our own men turn on us. It’s a weird combination of a color and American cultural issue

I learned so much watching this. Thank you for this brilliant critical analysis

That episode was the only one I ever watched. It was real strange as a kid.

Wait a minute you've made me aware that Penny's mom is black?! I never knew that we had one TV growing up and the brightness was messed up. I thought she was white all these year's due to our messed up TV thats language was stuck in German.

2:55 Kel Mitchell as Kennan Thomson? I need to watch that episode.

This one pissed me off and Maya's instagating ass automatically became the very least favorite character of the entire sequel series

First video I've seen of yours, and I like it! I love a lot of the jokes (from the "reason B through Z" line, to you finding every possible term to switch up the n-word 🤣), and I generally agree with everything you said, especially anything on Dijonay. I do not like that character at all. The only thing I really disagree on is the perspective of who was the victim here. I don't think the show was making Zoey the victim, I actually think they were making the girls the victims. Zoey constantly got chastised, but it was all under the guise of her not getting the issue, and in the end, she was the one who had to apologize for something she didn't understand or wasn't seeing, and how could she? In the show, the dude who likes her never really shows his colorism until the very end. You could make a ton of different reasons why he chose Zoey at the start. The only reason we assume it's colorism is because one of the girls (the SJW one 🤣) says a rumor about him only dating "vanilla". None of them tell Zoey about this in any constructive way, and either run from her, or yell at her and shun her for being with a pretty boy. But, in the show itself, it makes it seem like Zoey deserves the backlash and hate, and has to get with the less attractive dude. It's insane how they can make Zoey both seem like a victim, while acting like she's in the wrong for all of it.

Never seen the episode, but from what I've seen, Zoey really gets the burnt end. Sucks bro

The only colorism in this episode was Penny and Dijonay being willing to dump their darker-skinned boyfriends in favor of the lighter-skinned Noah.

Damn, I used to like this show. Now that you mention it, almost every interaction between D and Penny has the undertone of, “yeah, I’m black-but I ain’t one of those N words” to it. And now I can’t unsee it…how disappointing!

Watched your video and subbed! I loved your analysis, the writers really could’ve done so much more with the colorism episode when, they just blamed Zoey who’s the white friend who likely didn’t understand what was going on at first. They could’ve explored so much about colorism, how Penny and LaCienga benefit from colorism but seriously! This episode could’ve been so deep and insightful and instead, here’s Penny now a Mary Sue and all the events are haphazardly written putting the blame on Zoey who’s again, ignorant about the whole thing in the first place.

Damn, Daria has ended up being one of those classic cartoon blind spots for me. For no particular reason I just ended up never watching it growing up. Looks like I've really been missing out

There is colorism in the latino community it's just not as obvious or in your face. There's a saying it goes "Mejorar La Raza" it's were men (or women) will purposely date/marry a person so they have a chance to come out with lighter skined babies. It's one of the reasons my grandfather ended up sticking with my grandmother so long even though he was married to someone else who he had kids with and a different mistress who also fathered his children. But guess who had the super white baby so white no one believed she was his. My grandma. We need to talk about these issues because no matter the joke, it's harmful and makes what people do excusable in their eyes despite it being wrong.

I’m dark skinned and djonay always pissed me off because she was always was portrayed in a way I always hated to be portrayed in

ive never heard of this show before but i need to know, doesnt the main character look a bit too light? tbh she looks more latina than african edit: oh theres a latina character! i straight up confused them though, they look a bit too similar (with the only exception being the hair shape)