overdignifying the mean girl

overdignifying the mean girl | Harlots

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@eauxkei702 6 ай бұрын

I've always loved "mean girl" characters, too! From the brats to psychos, just as you said, but the key for them being likable to me is that they have to be genuinely funny, clever, or multi-layered. I love how Buffy has multiple versions of this trope all done very well (my favorite among them being Cordelia Chase). I take offense to seeing Kikyo lumped in with them in the images, though. She can't help that she's a twisted version of herself. That was forced on her 😭 Anyway, Harlots is such an underrated show that was gone way too soon.

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

hahahaha exactly!! that's why kikyo fits!!

@RixtvdVelde 7 ай бұрын

Yessss finally someone mentions harlots!!! Love that show

@kythekunoichi 7 ай бұрын

i know right!! i barely see anybody talking about it

@theslidersreview5939 6 ай бұрын

lol hey velde, ive talked about this show in dept before on my crappy channel. all 3 seasons

@TheTbear103 6 ай бұрын

@@theslidersreview5939what's your channel?

@Lifenextdoor 7 ай бұрын

I was crushed when they canceled this show. It was the best. That you for bringing light to it

@notdorawinifred1127 7 ай бұрын

I truly thought no one watched Harlots but me and my college roommate lol that show is so goddamn good (sans third season lmao) Harlots is just one of the best shows I had ever seen. Just ugh we need a Harlots discussion group forreal I have so many thoughts

@kythekunoichi 7 ай бұрын

i felt the same way! which is why I had to upload a video on it and lure all the Harlots fans out - the show is too good not to have a fanbase

@carag2567 6 ай бұрын

Ugh Harlots is TO. DIE. I've rewatched it so many times. Everything about it is so brilliantly executed, especially the costumes. I think there are a few dresses in this series that were also used in The Duchess and Marie Antionette. There's also a robe ala francais that Liv Tyler wears in season two featuring REAL BEETLE WINGS as a decorative feature on the bodice. I was FLOORED when I spotted it and paused the episode to zoom in! It's this kind of attention to detail that makes me geek out. Beetle wings were an immensely luxurious status symbol in the latter 18th century. The floor of the rainforest was literally swept and then gone through by hand to sort out wings that were fully intact and could be used for adorning luxury fabrics. Obviously this labor intensive process was quite expensive so only people like nobles and royals could afford it. People like the Duchess. More of this please!! 😊

@hannahg5407 2 ай бұрын

On my hands and knees begging you to talk more about this show it’s so underrated and discussed

@AW-uv3cb 6 ай бұрын

Seems like this show went sort of under the radar for many people (at least I haven't seen a lot of media about it), but it was so good! I loved the self-conscious nod to modernity (like music) so you know the realities are not meant to be taken as 100% authentic, and I loved how a diverse cast was introduced in a very realistic way. My main worry after the 1st episode was that the show would glamorise and sanitise what for most women would have been an incredibly precarious career, but I think they managed to find the right balance (though, of course, it's still helpful to realise, as a viewer, that the show presents top end establishments).

@NDSeaSea 6 ай бұрын

Harlots is the reason I got back into sewing. I just had to make those costumes!

@layreliz 6 ай бұрын

Pls more Harlots content. Not enough creators talk about this show.

@ichigofieldsforever 6 ай бұрын

I wanna say, I knew nothing about the show Harlots until this video. Now I'm binging it and it's one of my favorite shows in awhile. So thank you for that!

@ladyredl3210 6 ай бұрын

You hit the nail on the head with the imperfect thing. I love Harlots, and it is absolutely so much better.

@dilldes 6 ай бұрын

I'm not much of a fan of the mean girl trope though sometimes i do like their story progression if done right. That being said, I LOVED this show! I really wish Hulu kept it going a little longer

@ladyredl3210 6 ай бұрын

8:51 most of the girls probably couldn’t read, but reading was also a communal activity in those days.

@نجمة-ت8د 6 ай бұрын

Omg I loved Harlots I’m so happy somebody talking about it! Great video!

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

thank you!!!

@lizzie5973 6 ай бұрын

Im just glad anyone is talking about harlots! Please make more videos about it!

@teodoraberghi7677 6 ай бұрын

That's it, you are in my top five favourite KZbinrs. I love this video, and I'm so happy that someone is talking about this GREAT series.

@OcarinaSapphr- 6 ай бұрын

A movie I watched many years ago on VHS (yes, I'm *that* old) was 'Dangerous Beauty' - however, in Australia it was released as 'A Destiny of Her Own' (which I honestly like more). It was a semi-romanticisation of part of the life/ career of a late 16th c Venetian courtesan, Veronica Franco - but while there was certainly some romanticisation (not nearly as much as in 'Gigi', though), there was also a surprising amount of honesty & pathos in dialogue discussing marriage, the lives of courtesans- & how they could easily drop down to common prostitutes without patronage (or if they angered a lover...).

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

I still have all my VHS tapes - I have half of Studio Ghibli on VHS!

@breeisjustababy 6 ай бұрын

I remember hearing about harlots at one point, but I hadn't entered my period piece era yet. I'll definitely add it to my watchlist.

@netboiii1210 6 ай бұрын

Yes! Omg thank you!!!! Harlots is literally a master piece!!! I love the script, on how they all speak in poetic words!! 😭✨✨✨ uuugghhh slaaaayy

@gummybears1339 6 ай бұрын

I just literally finished this show today and was at awe with how good it was and I was sleeping on it for 7yrs!! The show is definitely not talked about enough!

@KindredKaye 6 ай бұрын

Couple little historical notes: harlots and bridgerton are set in the 1780s/90s and 1810s, respectively. Also in Bridgerton, it was uncommon, just like today, to marry a man 20-30 years older than yourself

@justaname999 6 ай бұрын

How have I never heard about this show? Amazing actors and it looks more interesting and raw. Also, the rococo period setting is so lush on its own, without the anachronistic additions that are essentially what makes Bridgerton "cool and fun" and "not like other regency media". I never got into Bridgerton because the plot is a bit superficial, even when the stakes are somewhat high or the transgression severe. And yeah, Lesley Manville and Samantha Morton alone would make this amazing but the other actors seem amazing too. I only know Kate Fleetwood who plays Nancy from stage productions but she's amazing on stage.

@jordanbrown3816 6 ай бұрын

I forgot how good this show was, it deserved to get way more attention!

@Kylieguestdraws 6 ай бұрын

Love it. Give me more!! I watched the first two seasons when they came out, and I remember loving most of the side characters and hating the main ones. The villain plot line of season one is top tier, so fucking despicable

@Libruhh 6 ай бұрын

I used to be obsessed with this show, it really is very dark and faces harsh realities with so many complex, well written characters

@YokaiEnthusiast 6 ай бұрын

The only realistic reason I can give you for the show ending was that the actors were simply too hard to get together at the same time, and several of the main cast asked to be released from their contracts after the first one ran out. Mostly to work on other projects. It's why the third season is ... like that. I'm heart broken, it's such a fantastic show. I love re-watching it.

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

that makes sense. i know a few of them wanted out after season 2

@bymeerabrowngothicroyal 6 ай бұрын

Harlots my beloved!! Inspired two vampire characters of mine.

@llllaarr2518 6 ай бұрын

I loved this show! Liv Tyler was so good

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

she was my fave. She played the role perfectly.

@upsetstudios1819 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for recommending this show, this will make my summer so great

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

thank you for watching! - i hope you enjoy the show - just brace yourself because it goes there.

@anntan-anntan 6 ай бұрын

so glad you’re talking about this show! It needs more love (at least seasons 1 & 2 lol)

@toecutterjones 6 ай бұрын

My mother and I loved Harlots, such a tragic cancellation.

@lolabush2201 6 ай бұрын

Samantha Morton was so good in this!

@Normanandremy 7 ай бұрын

love your commentary and the video, but from a purely historical standpoint, harlots takes place around 50 years prior to bridgerton. Otherwise, you comparisons in the class divide are still spot on. Love Harlots so much.

@Normanandremy 7 ай бұрын

Also as a self described history buff/fanatic who watches a lot of hisotrical content, Harlots is the better show. The accuracy is incredible and it doesn't try to make history into fantasy the Bridgerton does and yet still manages to have representation.

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

so it takes place during Queen Charlotte not Bridgerton lol

@Normanandremy 6 ай бұрын

@@kythekunoichi more or less, yes!

@imbored7119 6 ай бұрын

You convinced me to watch Harlots

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

you wont regret it! - just brace yourself, especially for season 2...

@kelpymckelps 6 ай бұрын

Thank youuu I loved this show!!

@the_budgetary 7 ай бұрын

The first season of Harlots is great. I really enjoyed the costumes.

@Meandsushiroll 6 ай бұрын

Oh girl, you triggered my ptsd when showing Sae. I was about to curse you out on her behalf 😂

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

hahahahahaha

@alaenamcdonald1877 6 ай бұрын

Love this show!! A binger for sure

@jessicamckean1511 6 ай бұрын

This show is stunning looking.

@benji_kay 6 ай бұрын

great the analysis, would love to see more! harlots is such a good show but a hard watch.

@kythekunoichi 6 ай бұрын

thank you!!

@Venusingatorade 7 ай бұрын

A few things - 1. Tsundere. It's pronounced as (soon-day-ray). Not 'soon-derry'. 2. I know you weren't a fan of ol' girl from Peach Girl lmao Good video though. I don't think it's fair to label all girl villains as just a mean girl. Male villains get to be villains, but I get your point.

@Marina_7 6 ай бұрын

I'd rather say "tsoon - deh - reh" for tsundere? But yes

@chiara1194 6 ай бұрын

For similar subject matter in a Victorian setting, read “The Crimson Petal & The White”; it’s a pretty realistic account of prostitution in Victorian London and gets deep into the Covent Garden Beauties publication. The miniseries was just “meh” but the book is one of my faves.

@thefamouscommenter 7 ай бұрын

omg I didn't think anyone else ever watched this one!! I stopped watching after the torture scenes in the asylum with the rival madam. IDK it just really rubbed me the wrong wa and I couldn't watch anymroe

@kythekunoichi 7 ай бұрын

yeah i know what you mean. i think that was season 3, after season 2 and what happened with Nancy - I had to take a break.

@thefamouscommenter 7 ай бұрын

@@kythekunoichi it's weird because the whole show is so dark but something about seeing this old woman being tortured on screen over and over again just made me lose interest. All the previous violence felt like nothing in comparison!