Good honest review ..

Excellent video! Your comparison is spot on. I bought a used dr-z400 and love it for exploring logging roads and jeep trails. I'm now eyeing a dr-650 for longer trips. The 400 will do hwy speeds but it's not very comfortable and I find myself wishing for one more gear

The only thing I’m worried about is the headlamp, the old incandescent bulbs are yellow and weak at night

Little late here, but I’m cross shopping these because I want to a BDR the one I’m planning is about 360 miles kind of intermediate. But I have to ride there about 100 miles on pavement some freeway. I’m 6’1 235 so I’m leaning 650. But I’m not there yet

Where are you in UT? Don't see a Wasatch front. Owned 2 drz-e models but they felt too short bodied for me. Looking at a dr650 and at 66 yo think I would prefer it at this point. Thanks for the vid.

Isn't this Precipice?

Got a Drz400sm about a month ago and couldn’t be happier. It’s not for long highway rides, but anything below 65 isn’t bad at all and it’s still small and light enough to have a TON of fun with off road. The 400 is TRULY a street legal dirt bike as opposed to an adventure bike.

Only needs air fuel and spark. Being a 2stroke try a new correct spark plug.

The DRZ400 "missing 6th gear" is a fallacy. I can cruise easily in 5th gear at 70mph. I can top out at 95 mph in the same gear. I can also pass a vehicle like a boss in 5th gear when cruising at 65-70mph. My only gripe is my ass is always sore and the gas tank is too small, and with bad fuel consumption.

Can't understand a word you say because of the loud chicken do do music playing.

Very usefull information, tired of traffic in the city and also trying to upgrade from my cl350 old ‘70 Honda… got the dr 650 on mind, thanks for sharing both of you bikes!.

Very useful information, tired of traffic in the city and also trying to upgrade from my cl350 old ‘70 Honda… got the dr 750 on mind, thanks for sharing both of you bikes!.

12:24 omg it's the train from GTA5

Almost zero substance. You didn't even zoom in on the fork height bolts.

Since I already have a big road bike I went with the DRZ400S. Most of my riding will be local or I'll truck the bike to different locations to ride the area with. If I could only have one bike, it would likely be the DR650. I'm not sure how many more years they will continue to make both these bike but I hope it's a good long time.

The same thing happened to me. I'm running the Tusk dsport tires and I used the front brake way too much.

I'm 55, and went from a goldwing to a drz400s. And I've never been happier. Although we ride in the woods and trails of Maine and New Brunswick and love it alot !

Do not move your fork up in your triple tree to lower your bike this is not how to lower your bike. Lowering your bike is done in the inside of the fork there video's that will show you this try Dinos tinker shed.

Get the motoz tractionator dual venture front tyre you can flip it after 3000 or 5000 klms when you like how many times you like safe riding

I couldn't understand your wiring explanation

The DR is better in everything . I wish they would bring back the DR 350r back . For me the DRZ powerband not as good as the DR is . And with a lower seat height will do better for the beginners or novice riders . Belive me 40 pds difference is no big deal picking up the 1st 3×s . Im looking at trail bikes not dirt bikes mind-set . So owning a DRZ I would lean towards the DR 650 for what Im looking for .

I am deciding between the two, I'm 6'5" 250lbs

I own a drz400e and I have heard other riders complain it has a top heavy feel, I too experience this and was curious if a lowered dr650 feels as top heavy as the 400? I don't mind a heavier bike if the weight is down low.

Summary: Do you ride more highway or dirt? Highway/Dirt Ratio: DR650 60/40; DRZ400 40/60. The 650 is better for highway; the 400 is better for dirt.

Thank you for putting in the time on this video. Such clear and concise descriptions of both bikes. This video will live on theough the ages.

Great Job!

The DR650 isn't actually all that hard to pick up.

Never seen a front tire worn down that much. You should have changed it miles before you let it go that far. Better yet, you shouldn't have used s D606 front. Rears are good. The fronts hunt in the sand with that chevron tread pattern. They don't track straight, but rather follow tire tracks from other riders. Also, they are a little narrow. Same to be said for the Tusk D-Sport front 90/90-21. Boo.

This is real simple, they are both great bikes that run forever, and at a good price, especially used. If you mostly ride on the highway, with very little off road riding, the DR650 is for you. If you mostly want to ride off road with very little highway riding, the 400 is the way to go. The 650 is a tank off road, the 400 is great in the dirt.

650 Wins !

Update please?

I had the dri had the drz and hugely regretted it. I was geared to low for the road and the seat was terribly uncomfortable. The oil filter was tiny and collapsed and clogged. I wish I got the 650. It's a forever bike and I would still have it.

Didnt that just make the helmet weak as shit? lol

Even though it shakes a little bit, your idea to mount a camera on the corner so that you can turn to the audience in editing later, is a good idea. I have a DR650. I like to race lil 4 bangers, sometimes I win, sometimes it's even. My only real complaint is an obvious one...no wind protection.

You should only put Dunlop 606 tires on your bike if you are selling it they come stock on Ag bikes and it's not because they are good for farmers it's just they keep the rims off the ground

Meanwhile, I run Continental TKC 80s on my Yamaha Ténéré 😂😂😂😂

I wish there weren’t music over what you were saying, other than that I would say it was a good video

Where is the test drive ?.

Excellent video. I don't own either Suzuki but I'm always thinking about trading my KLX 300 DS for a bit bigger bike. The KLX is fun, like a mountain bike with an engine but the overall use is limited since it is so smal, light, and under 400cc.

Have a 2016 DR650 and it's hard to beat, maybe a little heavier but that weight is a plus on the road and if you do the mods from Cross Training Adventure channel it really wakes this bike up because those guys have it sorted out and with so much aftermarket accessories you wont know where to start. Some don't like carbs but to me that is a plus not having to fool with the computer after do all the engine mod. This bike is a tinkerers dream from the smallest thing the whole way up to big bore kits. Pro Cycle has just about anything you can think of for this machine.

Suggestion:- Leave these videos to people who know what they're doing

nice vid.

Thanks for a great video. One question. If you were going on a BDR which bike would you take?

I run them on my Tenere 700, I hate the battlax's they seek for tracking right and left in mud and sand. Because they have straight open areas from right to left they like to slide lateral. I have currently been running the Tusk D sport... they are also just ok.

I need both but can only justify one. Went the DR650, no issues in deep sand but some hairy moments on steep rocky sections. More experience and increased skills will make any bike seem lighter, look at Chris Birch on his 1190!

These look like Michelin anarchy wilds turned around. Ok on the road. Lasted 2.5k miles. Awful in the UK mud. I preferred the wilds

So did you raise the bars also?

It seems a 50lb diff. I haven`t picked a bike since my cb750 (about 500lbs) I dropped my c50 (619lbs) but had help picking it up.

I bought a 2018 TW200 (brand new) for $3800 in February of 2018. Amazingly, I now have equity in a motorcycle. I never thought that would happen.

You pretty much nailed it at the 2 min mark. Because it is a DS bike you need to preserve the front knobs. But, no matter what you ride, you need to realize that the front tire brake is the most important brake out of the two. DS is a trade off and unfortunately you can't ride them as street bikes with aggressive off road tires. But you give great options with help to "conserve" the front by using non traditional street braking techniques such as engine braking and rear braking and only relying on the front when "necessary". But that is a hard thing to teach. Newer ADV riders sometimes don't have 20 years of experience on dozens of bikes and styles. If you want a DS bike and only ride 80-90 street....GET A SUPERMOTO! Those are awesome on road and you ride them like a street bike. Full front brake no problems. Drag rear brake into turns, yup. But pavement is your friend in those instances.