When I ordered my first silencer (.22 caliber), I wanted to use it on as many of my .22s as I could so, in anticipation of the eventual delivery of my silencer, I had two of my .22LR barrels threaded for it and ordered an adapter for my MP-22 from The Silencer Store. The silencer worked perfectly on everything but my MP-22 which showed a POI shift from bullets grazing the end cap. I reported the problem to the seller and never heard from them. I was able to determine that the adapter's internal and exterior threads were not cut on the same axis so I then ordered an adapter from Silencer Central which worked perfectly.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty2 күн бұрын
That's a bummer the company didn't stand by their product! This shows the importance of a quality adapter for sure.
@ULFISHGETTER2 күн бұрын
I feel the same way about tikka. Savages are reliable but the action feels awful.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty2 күн бұрын
I have three savages and one of the actions is butter and the others not quite. It’s hard to compete with the tikka on that front.
@WestWindSports2 күн бұрын
Watch those does? They’ll suck the life out of you? What are we really talking about here?
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty2 күн бұрын
Those ladies are always looking back at that buck about to come out of the tree line. What are you talking about! 🤣
@WestWindSports2 күн бұрын
Oh, you’re pretty enough
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty2 күн бұрын
LOL!!! 😂
@archer7212 күн бұрын
I have a CZ ring neck SxS in 12 Ga and love it. Been looking to get another OU ever since I sold my CZ Mallard 20 Ga and it looks like I’m going to be heading to Bellingham Sportsman’s! (Twice, because I won’t be able to take it home for another 10 days) I like the fact that CZ’s use Benelli choke tubes because they are so widely available, seems I can always find what I’m looking for considerably less expensive than Winchesters or Beretta’s. On another note - Washington gun laws are stupid! I already have a gun, why do I have to wait 10 days to get another? And the semi auto ban is ridiculous! This state is my home and I feel that I have to leave it to enjoy freedom and a lifestyle that I have grown up in… ridiculous!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty2 күн бұрын
If my kiddos weren’t so engrained in school I would have moved across the border already! I’ll just have to wait until retirement to make the move.
@SPLTDP3 күн бұрын
Thank you!!!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty3 күн бұрын
Happy to help!
@chiefmachining79723 күн бұрын
Machined parts cost X amount because machining is expensive or you get results like shown
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty3 күн бұрын
A good reminder...
@Eagle822003 күн бұрын
Looking at getting my first suppressor soon. In fact I've been eyeing that very same Nosler sup. extremely hard. I hear they sound real nice... Thanks for the the awsome intel on adapters and bore rods! And about Nosler customer service 👍
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty3 күн бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful! I can't imagine much better customer service than we got from Nosler. Knowing they stand behind their products like that gives you some piece of mind when buying from them.
@jaydub3083 күн бұрын
I did this with a 9mm can put it on my hk sp5. Didn't know until I got home something was wrong when bits fell out. Come to find out it needed a fixed mount. Thankfully I bought from someone with a good warranty. And the manual was a front and back page. It said nothing about the setup being for a pistol.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty3 күн бұрын
At least we aren't the only ones! You never want to rely on a warranty but when it comes down to it you hope you bought from a reputable company.
@jaydub3083 күн бұрын
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty absolutely true. I did research companies. One popular one that had a lot of compliments was dead air. So I stayed away from them.
@chevrofreak4 күн бұрын
Precision Armament thread adapters are the only ones I will use because they cut inside and outside threads at the same time for concentricity.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty4 күн бұрын
Good to know they take it to the next level.
@garyseverson65214 күн бұрын
Yup, always have friends and family that could use it
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty4 күн бұрын
For sure! It never goes to waste.
@ericfogle49654 күн бұрын
I guess I got lucky getting really into AKs after shooting AR platform and other typical hunting platform rifles for 2 decades cause you better check barrel concentricity with AKs so that’s luckily something I’m Very used too
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty4 күн бұрын
Having to do that on those AK's was probably a pain but it creates good habits.
@patricks.68124 күн бұрын
I have the same one and it works just fine. It's great for pheasant hunting. It's lighter than my semi, I can use two different chokes, and I only give up one shell that I never hit with anyway.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty4 күн бұрын
That third one never finds it mark does it?!? I'm glad I'm not the only one. :)
@ryewaldman22144 күн бұрын
poor man's trick: use your cleaning rod and an approximate alignment rod. You have to rotate your barrel to check for consistent sag all the way around. Also, visually check through the breach end with suppressor attached. The rod is the correct way to check, but it really doesn't need to be a purchase item. If you really need to check, your local gunsmith should have alignment rods to check for you.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty4 күн бұрын
That's a great tip!
@areekalaan4 күн бұрын
If the baffles don't come out for cleaning, didn't put 22lr through it. Center-fire rifle cans generally don't need to be cleaned. Center-fire pistol cans need cleaned occasionally. Rimfire needs cleaned constantly.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty4 күн бұрын
Luckily all the baffles come out on the Banish 30, but that is a very good point!
@areekalaan4 күн бұрын
I bought a used Savage 110 308. It had a brake on it that I replaced with my Thunderbeast 30P-1. I removed the bolt and bore sighted it. Suppressor was centered to the bore (concentric). Fired a shot at 25 yards but nothing was on paper. Tried shooting high, low, left, right, and each corner. Still nothing on paper. Then someone beside me asked why I kept shooting the dirt. I stood up and saw bullet tracks in the grass and dirt just feet in front of me. Then I looked at the front of the suppressor. 😢 When I removed the brake, there was no crush washer, peel washer, or machining marks. The previous owner apparently timed the brake with brute force and stretched the barrel. A buddy chopped it down to 16.5" and now it shoots fine. Still using the suppressor with the end cap strikes. 😅
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty4 күн бұрын
That's crazy! Glad you were still able to make it a functional rifle.
@mikeanthony65 күн бұрын
$1000 suppressor, $2000 rifle, I have a great idea let's save a dollar and order an adapter for cheap 😂😂😂
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty5 күн бұрын
Very good point! Trying let others see what can happen when you go that route. Next day delivery can be tempting but in some cases it is very over rated!
@rollofire225 күн бұрын
Thank you for the great information!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty5 күн бұрын
You bet!
@robleo695 күн бұрын
Correction @0:54 your suppressor didn't kill any animals. Your rifle did. Just saying.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty5 күн бұрын
I figured that went without saying but apparently I need to be more specific in the future! :) Thank for the feedback.
@Yoda0525 күн бұрын
This is why I love tapered barrels. I’ve been buying silencers for 25+ years and own probably every type of mount and adapter ever devised (well, almost). I now have Cherry Bombs on all my guns (with plan B) that aren’t direct thread. I also try to pick my host weapons that have tapers.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty5 күн бұрын
I'd never heard of Cherry Bombs so will have to see what they are all about.
@funigui6 күн бұрын
I`m not being that guy, but, never use a thread adapter like that. Buy a Hub to whatever you thread your barrel is. Its 50-75$.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
There are pros and cons to both. Since I talked about silencer central in the video I'll share a link here from silencer shop that talks the pros and cons of each approach. www.silencershop.com/blog/quick-detach-vs-direct-thread-suppressor
@tbugher626 күн бұрын
You will cause lead issues running rimfire ammo through a centerfire can. Rimefire cans come apart for cleaning all the crud and lead out
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
I agree that .22's will foul up a can if you don't clean it. My Banish 30 does open so I can fully clean it. I wouldn't use a .22 on the Nosler can. My friend that owns it has a separate .22 can that can be cleaned. Good insight!
@J_D_Rambro6 күн бұрын
Thanks for this content, I did the same thing with my buddy he's in a different state. I told him as soon as he got the can outta jail and installs it, to physically look down the barrel. I sent him accessories from SiCo the same brand as his can, I had those exact same concerns....it all went well.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
Glad it worked out!
@J_D_Rambro6 күн бұрын
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty So was there a reason your buddy didn't go with the same can as you?
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty5 күн бұрын
He wanted to be able to go to a physical storefront and buy in person. There is a local shop that has suppressors and had the set up to be able to see the different cans and they did the fingerprints digitally right there. After using both of them side by side I would still go with the Banish 30 personally, but I don't want to speak for him.
@J_D_Rambro5 күн бұрын
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty Thanks, understood. Glad you guys got the issue sorted. The reason I didn't go banish was because SiShop (for me) was a better option. I may end up with one at some point, the list of cans I want is long.
@davidbraswell14816 күн бұрын
to avoid clipping 1 size up!!!!!!!!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
That's a different concept I hadn't heard of and honestly hadn't thought of. It would be interesting to see if it made a material difference in sound levels. Obviously ensuring alignment is number one even if you did size up.
@merlinwilliams92866 күн бұрын
Rock this. Your excuse for not having ear pro is not cool bro.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
In regards to hunting and not having time to put in hearing protection while I'm hunting and an animal pops out, or helping my son when he was lining up on his first deer that had a suppressor on it? Either way, I'd be interested to hear how many people that spend a lot of time hunting put hearing protection in before every shot. I probably use my earing more than any other sense when hunting so I'm never sitting with hearing protection in. The shooting community so interesting to watch. Some guys criticize for having hearing protection on while shooting with a can, others criticize for not. I guess that's just the world we live in these days!
@merlinwilliams92866 күн бұрын
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty heck, I'm terrible about ear pro. It's just the lame excuse I'm criticising. Nothing for you to excuse! Oh, and the use of the word "rocking" You may have been "using" but rocking....nah.
@armedprophet33216 күн бұрын
As a fellow suppressor owner, I could feel his heart sink after he realized he had a baffle strike with the first shot.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
Definitely not what you expect!
@markhansen31116 күн бұрын
Great value o/u
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
For sure!
@markhansen31116 күн бұрын
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty II like 20 ga.
@rmenard19866 күн бұрын
I highly recommend new shooters with silencers to buy the correct hub with the right threads for your gun. Dont use thread adapters, theirs hubs for most silencers out there, with a variety of thread pitches.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
From what I understand different suppressors have different adapter options. There doesn't seem to be a full universal option yet. I'd be interested to hear what others have found.
@sumoneelse68816 күн бұрын
A rephrasing of how you harvested your animals. You used a suppressor on your rifle when you harvested your animal.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
I guess that's what happens when I just talk without scripting. :)
@jasonweishaupt18286 күн бұрын
I don’t water down stuff for my son. He rides his bike with no safety equipment, and he shoots centerfire with standard issue earmuffs and safety glasses, no can.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
My son has played tackle football since the age of 9 but I want to instill long term good shooting technique. It isn't an ego contest. I don't care if you are a grown 300 lb man, high recoil degrades shooting accuracy, period. My intent is for him to get the highest level of accuracy and the lower the recoil the better it will be. A suppressor is great for that.
@landonboomsma25942 күн бұрын
Definition of a fud right here lol. Supressors especially for hunting are only a benefit
@joshua83146 күн бұрын
Adapters are a bad idea. Pony up and get the correct mount for the can, not a $5.00 adapter.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
I think that’s the moral of the story. Just trying to spread the word!
@veronly27 күн бұрын
Wonder how much a dial indicator would show, obviously the video showed was WAY off round.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
Good question. Not totally sure…
@brianperiso6747 күн бұрын
Great info. Lesson learned.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
Lesson learned for sure! Hoping to save others from the same mess.
@jeffpittman87257 күн бұрын
There's a channel called School of the American Rifle. He gauges everything to make sure it will work properly. It's absolutely critical that you do those things. Buy once, cry once.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
I'll have to check out that channel. Thanks for the tip!
@jeffwatson68047 күн бұрын
Hopeful new administration will get rid of the tax stamp!! Make them much more affordable too!!
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
Wouldn’t that be awesome! If that happens I’d be first in line to pick up a couple more!
@oneijack987 күн бұрын
I made my own alignment rods from McMaster-Carr.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
That sounds complicated…. Any details you could share with the class on how you went about it?
@oneijack987 күн бұрын
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty there are tons of charts out there on which rods for which caliber from their catalog. I ordered 3ft rods and used a chop saw to cut down to 16" rods, and the other half works great for pistols. Just grind to round the ends a little. This could also be done with a dremmel if that is all you have. Dip the ends in enamel paint to color code them if you like. Think my total cost was less than $50 shipped and tax and that covered .22/5.56, 30 cal, 9mm, 45. They work great and have saved me on a few barrels that needed a shim before adding tri lug or plan b. Was a little surprised on how many factory threaded barrels were actually off.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
@ this is great info! Thank you for sharing!
@josephcoffman24417 күн бұрын
So, basically, someone cross-threaded the can bushing during installation. Is that root cause in plain English?
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
No that wasn’t the case. Maybe I’m thinking of “cross threading” differently but all threading screwed together just fine and nothing was forced. I think of cross threading as the threads aren’t aligned and you just use brute force to screw it together against a lot of resistance you are getting. Maybe that’s not what you mean?
@josephcoffman24416 күн бұрын
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty that's what I was thinking you were saying. So there was a physical defect in the machining?
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty6 күн бұрын
@ that’s what looks to be the case here.
@brantleyanderson34277 күн бұрын
That adapter you showed at the 4:00 mark, I’m willing to bet you got that from silencer central. I don’t have a banish suppressor but I bought that same adapter from them for my thunder beast ultra 9
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
I think you are probably right. I think order it along with my can.
@brantleyanderson34276 күн бұрын
@@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRustygoing back and watching, I was thinking you were talking about the adapter that you keep on your AR and thought you were talking about the adapter you pulled out of your pocket lol so my comment was irrelevant
@recononeoverland99537 күн бұрын
Getting my first can soon, and this info is very informative!!! Great vid!1
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
Hopefully it saves you some headache!
@44hawk287 күн бұрын
When you put a can on a rifle the first time you always put an arbor into the bore and make sure that it clears the can that is the fault of the person who put it on the rifle without understanding that you have to make sure it's clear on every rifle you put it on not just hope that it's clear.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
The point of the video is to share that knowledge. If you peel through all the comments it doesn’t seem to be a well known practice so trying to help others learn from the situation.
@tbonet49067 күн бұрын
I just bought this from sportsman warehouse they had one left. With a veteran discount out the door was 650. This gun is Awesome!! I shot it once and i found a new sport that i enjoy with the fellas. Thanks for you video it pushed me to buy it..
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
I’m happy to hear you like it! Hopefully it treats you well!
@chicwboost7 күн бұрын
Didn't think to pull the bolt and look? You definitely "helped."
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
Looking really doesn’t give you 100% certainty it is aligned. Depending on where your head is it might look aligned or not aligned. When you are talking such tight tolerances that’s a starting point but I wouldn’t rely on that as your only step.
@osogrande27 күн бұрын
FYI, attachment =s Adapter.
@JCJustice-kv2gy7 күн бұрын
👍👏👏👏
@rogerramjet75677 күн бұрын
The result is what you paid for. I am sure you saved a lot of big bucks buying China junk. Nosler did you a huge favor they did not have to do.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
It was definitely great of them to warranty that work. I’m right there with ya.
@reloadingfun7 күн бұрын
im a machinist, and i have to mention that it is not the machine that assures proper alignment. its the person running the machine, setting everything up and insuring the process is gonna make good parts. the machine does whatever it is told to do.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
Good to get the insight of a man that does the work. Thanks for the comment.
@reloadingfun7 күн бұрын
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty yeah, no prob. you could have the best machines in the world, but if the set-up and process aren't correct, you are not gonna make good parts, and if course, the people make mistakes.
@railgap7 күн бұрын
@@reloadingfun You said everything I was gonna say - former manufacturing engineer and gun nut here. This is what QC and SPC are for, but single unit flukes can always sail through unless you're doing 100% QC. Well quess what?? With what any respected can maker charges vs the number of units they ship, they absolutely could do 100% QC but it would cut into their margin slightly so they don't.
@PnP-td1mt6 күн бұрын
The machine does what it does as long as their isn’t slop in the spindle or ways…
@pnw_machinist3 күн бұрын
I can second that!
@jeffreyfales73438 күн бұрын
This is y I use alignment gague. Save you the baffle strick.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
Do you have a link you can share so others can check it out?
@joshuamaier34828 күн бұрын
As a new suppressor owner, i didn't know about the rod system to gauge the baffles and end cap. Thanks for this information. And i didn't know Silencer central threads barrels. Quiet rifles should be a more common thing for us shooters/hunters. Thank you
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty8 күн бұрын
I feel like suppressors make it better for the shooter and those around them. I wish it wasn’t so hard and expensive to get one! Thank you for the feedback. I’m glad it was useful!
@nicksundstrom73415 күн бұрын
I got my second one through silencer central recently and had a rifle sent in a well for threading and it was super easy. They sent the package, I sent it off and received it back in a few weeks.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty5 күн бұрын
It was shocking how easy it was to ship it, have them thread it, and send it back. Glad you had a good experience with it as well!
@jsimpson80188 күн бұрын
Nosler's customer service rocked for you guys. I would not have warranted stupidity. Thread adapters SUCK! especially ones frommAmazon for christ sake. Chinese crap. You are lucky the did what they did. Most companies wont warranty stupid. Alos DO NOT SHOOT 22LR through that can. Just not smart.
@NorthwestOutdoorsWithRusty7 күн бұрын
I was honestly surprised that they warrantied it but shows how great they are! I agree that you shouldn’t shoot a .22 through a suppressor that can’t be cleaned but the 30 Banish opens up so you can deep clean it.