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@LuisJimenez-yx1er Ай бұрын

Hey there dude! Didn't realize you did content as well! Keep up the work dude! You got my sub! 💪

@gdyhdhpeifv6922 Ай бұрын

dude its actually crazy that you pump out this kind of content at the subscribers you have keep it up bro, youre awesome

@tatybara Ай бұрын

great video

@GAINtalksAboutS Ай бұрын

I did actually the same with Mushi, damn that soundtrack hits hard :)

@tzfsr Ай бұрын

I like you

@dLzzzgaming Ай бұрын

Goated video, saved to watch later again

@SoulReaperAxel Ай бұрын

I'll stay in plat had enough effort

@Shorins22 Ай бұрын

@@SoulReaperAxel LOL

@ShrimpChipsTV Ай бұрын

As a Cammy player ed gives me a lot of trouble because I lack the understanding of what my options are to deal with him. I appreciate this video and I'm looking forward to more

@GGMK2002 Ай бұрын

As an Ed player Cammy pisses me off.

@coledunahugh2490 Ай бұрын

concise and informative, thank you!

@sniddler9114 Ай бұрын

>calls move "knee press" >presses you with his feet M. Bison truly is evil

@trappestarrgaming3422 Ай бұрын

I mean depending on distance 1 or both hits are gonna press your knee on impact

@tzfsr 2 ай бұрын

GOAT level series

@Un1234l 2 ай бұрын

People complain about Dragonlash, but Bison's DKP is infinitely worse to deal with. Can be safe, can lead to throw/strike/bait mixup, can space trap, low crushes, can DI back in time, hard to DI against, way less reactable, can lead to big damage on counter hit. You can pretty easily DI or jab or parry, or drive reversal Ken's H Dragonlash. Bison's DKP? Good luck.

@rax-ism 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I can see the argument how something that can be safe, can lead to throw/strike/bait mixup, can space trap, low crushes, can DI back in time, hard to DI against, way less reactable, can lead to big damage on counter hit is _much_ better than something that is always safe, always lead to throw/strike/bait mixup, doesn't need to space trap since you're always plus, low crushes, can DI back in time, can lead to big damage on counter hit, can't be neutral jumped, but is balanced because you have 6 extra frames to react with DI. You Ken mains are way too high on Phenom's propaganda, lmao.

@Un1234l 2 ай бұрын

@@rax-ism Ken main??? 🤦 You can EASILY react to Ken H DL in neutral due to its unique and obvious animation. You cannot react to DKP, especially the lighter versions which Bisons ALWAYS use. At the distances Ken can use DL he's easily DI punishable. Whereas with Bison, he's SAFE, unpunishable, and can DI you back in time... AND does a lot of drive gauge damage. Plus the mental stack of his PLUS FRAME unreactable st.HP, and (b?)HK. You can easily differentiate and react/punish/take your turn accordingly between Ken's various options. You CANNOT do the same with Bison. Try neutral jumping on him as a read against DKP and you eat a Psycho Crusher, for instance. There's no question which is more abuseable.

@rayhamilton4775 Ай бұрын

"it can DI back in time" made me laugh pretty goddamn hard. So true, fuck that move

@cpulevel2 Ай бұрын

@@Un1234ldw he needs it

@Arctanis-vt3hl Ай бұрын

They are both oppressive. It's really frustrating to realize that Capcom has no interest in making this game balance at all. Why are specials ever safe on block? It makes blocking pointless.

@lordronn472 2 ай бұрын

Anti air sucks in this game

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

It might be difficult to use, but it’s absolutely necessary if you want to play at a high level.

@lordronn472 Ай бұрын

@@Shorins22 I know but I am not a fan of how it works here, in MK games there are better options

@Shorins22 Ай бұрын

@@lordronn472 ahh gochya, I’ve never played nrs games but they’ve always seemed interesting to me.

@dLzzzgaming Ай бұрын

No, they really don't lol

@lordronn472 Ай бұрын

@@dLzzzgaming yes they do

@InTheKitchenWristStirFry 2 ай бұрын

thats funny i was just playing ratio 4 Bison on CVS2

@KarmaDama 2 ай бұрын

Having these thought out analyses, when I'm not fresh off the frustration train, is really helpful.

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@KarmaDama glad I can help! I plan on making these breakdowns on things I’ve personally struggled with, but I’m open to suggestions as well.

@KarmaDama 2 ай бұрын

@@Shorins22 Some things I find harder to play around: Jamie's blockstrings and rekka, Juri's projectile, Marisa's pressure in the corner, Akuma's fireballs, Aki's whip

@kaihimura3897 2 ай бұрын

That Chunli skin is goated.

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@kaihimura3897 my favorite one! If it’s not available I use outfit 2 green color :)

@tyrfang 2 ай бұрын

I like using a reversal a couple of times as early as possible in my games, sometimes back to back. By doing that, even if I miss once or twice, imprints into some opponents that I'm a filthy masher who's going to reversal at every opportunity. That means they block more on my wakeup and try other tactics that allow me to steal my turn back. Feels really nice when this conditioning works.

@Prezo321 2 ай бұрын

You should make a quiz video like give different situations and give like 3 options and we have to pick the right option I feel like that would help us. Please and thank you of course

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@Prezo321 I was thinking about doing this but I wasn’t sure if people would enjoy it, I think I’ll make one of these!

@Prezo321 2 ай бұрын

@@Shorins22 that would be good. It would teach people like me how and what to do in those situations

@ericgrose9403 2 ай бұрын

Would that video apply to any fighting game ideally?

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@ericgrose9403 yes it should apply to any fighting game! The idea is you want to weigh your options depending on how risky/rewarding they are :)

@ericgrose9403 2 ай бұрын

@@Shorins22 in other words, think before you act?

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@ericgrose9403 Kinda yeah! I think you should analyze your risk taking and decision making after you’ve made your decision too. The more you analyze decisions the better decisions you will make. (This can be especially helpful in replay analysis)

@debbaasseerr 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video! It really changed my perspective - I used the spreadsheet you linked, checked out the discords of a couple of the local FCG's, and just came back from my first local offline tourney. It was a lot of fun, and I am planning on going to more.

@iwatchstuff6786 2 ай бұрын

Great video! As soon as I started climbing ranks a little, I realized how I was waking up was actually one of my biggest weaknesses. I was being really predictable and going for invincible DP way too much. Gonna watch this a couple more times to make sure it sinks in.

@bartekkko 2 ай бұрын

Waking up with buttons is often overlooked, but it has to be considered in the spread of options, as while it loses to both meaties and throws, it uniquely forces the attacker to commit to one or the other, and not do anything strange, like a slightly delayed button, which I find to be another option warranting mention. It's not quite the same as a shimmy, as you aren't reacting to your opponent, but still not actively losing to any option on the list besides maybe DP, depending on how much you delay the button by. I would generally consider button to be equally risky to a forward jump. A throw is 1200 damage while a crosscut dp is 1400 but you get out of the corner, and it stops the opponent from shimmying or doing other weird things

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@bartekkko well said! Wake up button is a pretty strong option, especially if the attacking player looking to beat delay tech with a delay button or shimmy.

@diogogarcia7970 Ай бұрын

So you're jumping to layer 3 to justify mashing, I see what's going on in the mind of the people that I face in ranked.

@Shorins22 Ай бұрын

@@diogogarcia7970 it also depends on the level you’re playing at. imo wake up button becomes stronger at higher levels of play because people are more likely to shimmy/delay button for okizeme. If someone is just hitting you out of your button every time there’s no point to keep mashing. It’s something you can do to force your opponent to do “real” oki.

@ZephyrK. Ай бұрын

@@diogogarcia7970 It’s quite literally the opposite of mashing (in the negative sense where you press buttons for the sake of it) since you’re pressing a button with clear intention when the time is right.

@viniciosantos 2 ай бұрын

Great video

@5eun729 2 ай бұрын

such a very good video. Thanks

@jpVari 2 ай бұрын

I feel like your first good reversal, if the aki dodged it and it started a comeback people would call it bad. That doesn't make you wrong, but so often these moments get analyzed by the outcome, even the outcome after a couple more interactions go badly, rather than the situation beforehand. Very helpful video

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@jpVari I agree, No matter how well you mitigate risk, if your opponent makes a crazy good read they’ll still win. If something doesn’t work it could still have been a good choice, and if something does work it doesn’t always mean it was the right decision.

@BlueLightningSky 2 ай бұрын

It's only a bad DP if it's blocked

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@BlueLightningSky lol

@kipurino 2 ай бұрын

awesome video

@EldritchMephi 2 ай бұрын

My brain problems make weighing risk/reward really difficult, you have no idea how helpful this is for me ❤ thank you. Edit: liked and subbed

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@EldritchMephi Of course! It’s a super difficult concept to understand in my opinion. I try not to worry about making the best decisions every time, but the more decisions I make while thinking about this framework the better I get at it :)

@gentlekef8653 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for still making these video's!

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for liking them! Hopefully I get into the 2xko beta tomorrow and I’m able to show what it’s like for me to learn a new game. I haven’t really played team games (besides kof which doesn’t have assists) super seriously before so I’m excited to learn!

@Gabiimaru 2 ай бұрын

This is an incredibly comprehensive video for only 7 minutes of run time. Keep it up Shorins with content like this you can't go anywhere but up. 😎

@akilcharles3473 2 ай бұрын

There are some other archetypes that havnt been yet in Street Fighter 6 that I'm hoping would be dlc in the future. Such as:- 1. Menat - puppet character 2. Vega - stance character 3. Kolin - setplay character 4. Dan - joke character

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@akilcharles3473 also hoping for Menat and Vega/Gen. Kolin was one of my favorites in sfv!

@Dontclickmychannellll 2 ай бұрын

Why you so underrated bro

@arnavgupta2400 2 ай бұрын

would love more of these for the rest of the roster

@rofl_waffl 2 ай бұрын

3:21 Didn't know that inputs worked this way. The whole time, I'd thought that after each move, I'd have to separetely input the motion I'd wanted for the next move as if it were new- not that you could "share" motion inputs between moves.

@A2ZOMG 2 ай бұрын

Just as an fyi Ed's OD Blitz and Spark are safe cancels against DI, in particular 5MK > OD Blitz is a proper frame trap into an easy 5k damage punish with SA2. So you can't necessarily just tunnel vision DI when Ed turns yellow and OD Blitz counterhit can blow up people trying to mash at ranges where 5MK looks unsafe.

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@A2ZOMG true! I forgot to specify od flicker

@SquidwardProfilePic 2 ай бұрын

Because of this move and crHK Ed has some of the best pokes in the game, even if they are slightly slower than average they make up for it with range and they both special cancel. He doesn’t have super good pressure thanks to the lack of an overhead and too much pushback on his normals, but trying to escape Ed when you’re cornered can feel impossible if they’re good and patient.

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

So true! This move imo is one of the best buttons in the game.

@Un1234l 2 ай бұрын

It's the most broken button. Ed's a better Dhalsim. And at least with Dhalsim you can whiff punish his buttons easier. Something I saw the pros do at EVO is they DR in after whiff MK to whiff punish it. I thought the same after nhis video mentioned 18f of whiff recovery. Fastest DR is 11f... Not counting the button used to DR after. So add a 4-7f normal on the DR against whiff MK would work. Realistically would have to use 4f normal.

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@Un1234l Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me of that! Even if you don’t quite get the punish, Ed won’t be able to check drive rush (without od dp).

@oatmeal5672 2 ай бұрын

Very clean, bite-sized video. One thing to note is that on uncharged flicker cancels ed can cancel into level 3 to beat DI if he has the bar

@shureenun 2 ай бұрын

cool video! this button is my goat

@xarciv2475 2 ай бұрын

Nice analysis

@averysketchygamer3241 2 ай бұрын

I would say Ed also falls under the setplay subtyoe, due to his really strong Psycho Flicker and Kill Rush oki, topped off with great meaties and safe jumps after almost every conversion

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@averysketchygamer3241 Good point! His specials really enable some strong setplay, and he’s able to drain so much drive gauge off of a Safejump.

@averysketchygamer3241 2 ай бұрын

@@Shorins22 I love him so much. I'm a diehard Ed player. Whiff Punishing and Okizeme are my 2 favorite things in fighting games. Ed was like a match made in heaven, since I decided not to get into SF6 until I got a boxer (I was hoping for Dudley. I got something I liked much better), and I've never been happier playing a fighting game

@Shorins22 2 ай бұрын

@@averysketchygamer3241 he’s so cool to watch! I main chun li, but I’ve played a bit of every character. Ed was one of the ones I definitely enjoyed most.

@shiryu22 2 ай бұрын

thanks for the vid and excellent music choice! sf4 norcal boxer gang represent

@Rubykiku 2 ай бұрын

I like how you removed the UI for the gameplay it made the video look clean

@5eun729 2 ай бұрын

👏

@ken.7019 2 ай бұрын

This video was really interesting, would love to see more about other strong buttons in the roster

@lGummyWorml 2 ай бұрын

Great video! I’d love to see more

@rebel4466 2 ай бұрын

Clickbait. Didn't get any tips on how to improve my capital punishment

@Ero-Sage 2 ай бұрын

I needed that 3 for 1 special. The dummy settings practice the anti-air, the reaction to DI, and the PC Combo. These are my biggest weaknesses right now. Thank you.

@madkatmk11 2 ай бұрын

Good luck at evo!

@Zachreus 2 ай бұрын

I'll keep coming back to your videos thanks for putting the time and effort in.

@Wisequack_MGC 3 ай бұрын

Dude the locals spreadsheet is a game changer for me!

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