Waking up with buttons is often overlooked, but it has to be considered in the spread of options, as while it loses to both meaties and throws, it uniquely forces the attacker to commit to one or the other, and not do anything strange, like a slightly delayed button, which I find to be another option warranting mention. It's not quite the same as a shimmy, as you aren't reacting to your opponent, but still not actively losing to any option on the list besides maybe DP, depending on how much you delay the button by. I would generally consider button to be equally risky to a forward jump. A throw is 1200 damage while a crosscut dp is 1400 but you get out of the corner, and it stops the opponent from shimmying or doing other weird things
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@bartekkko well said! Wake up button is a pretty strong option, especially if the attacking player looking to beat delay tech with a delay button or shimmy.
@diogogarcia79703 ай бұрын
So you're jumping to layer 3 to justify mashing, I see what's going on in the mind of the people that I face in ranked.
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@diogogarcia7970 it also depends on the level you’re playing at. imo wake up button becomes stronger at higher levels of play because people are more likely to shimmy/delay button for okizeme. If someone is just hitting you out of your button every time there’s no point to keep mashing. It’s something you can do to force your opponent to do “real” oki.
@ZephyrK.3 ай бұрын
@@diogogarcia7970 It’s quite literally the opposite of mashing (in the negative sense where you press buttons for the sake of it) since you’re pressing a button with clear intention when the time is right.
@tyrfang3 ай бұрын
I like using a reversal a couple of times as early as possible in my games, sometimes back to back. By doing that, even if I miss once or twice, imprints into some opponents that I'm a filthy masher who's going to reversal at every opportunity. That means they block more on my wakeup and try other tactics that allow me to steal my turn back. Feels really nice when this conditioning works.
@dLzzzgaming3 ай бұрын
Goated video, saved to watch later again
@Gabiimaru3 ай бұрын
This is an incredibly comprehensive video for only 7 minutes of run time. Keep it up Shorins with content like this you can't go anywhere but up. 😎
@LuisJimenez-yx1er2 ай бұрын
Hey there dude! Didn't realize you did content as well! Keep up the work dude! You got my sub! 💪
@jpVari3 ай бұрын
I feel like your first good reversal, if the aki dodged it and it started a comeback people would call it bad. That doesn't make you wrong, but so often these moments get analyzed by the outcome, even the outcome after a couple more interactions go badly, rather than the situation beforehand. Very helpful video
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@jpVari I agree, No matter how well you mitigate risk, if your opponent makes a crazy good read they’ll still win. If something doesn’t work it could still have been a good choice, and if something does work it doesn’t always mean it was the right decision.
@BlueLightningSky3 ай бұрын
It's only a bad DP if it's blocked
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@BlueLightningSky lol
@iwatchstuff67863 ай бұрын
Great video! As soon as I started climbing ranks a little, I realized how I was waking up was actually one of my biggest weaknesses. I was being really predictable and going for invincible DP way too much. Gonna watch this a couple more times to make sure it sinks in.
@kaihimura38973 ай бұрын
That Chunli skin is goated.
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@kaihimura3897 my favorite one! If it’s not available I use outfit 2 green color :)
@5eun7293 ай бұрын
such a very good video. Thanks
@gentlekef86533 ай бұрын
Thank you for still making these video's!
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
Thanks for liking them! Hopefully I get into the 2xko beta tomorrow and I’m able to show what it’s like for me to learn a new game. I haven’t really played team games (besides kof which doesn’t have assists) super seriously before so I’m excited to learn!
@viniciosantos3 ай бұрын
Great video
@kipurino3 ай бұрын
awesome video
@Prezo3213 ай бұрын
You should make a quiz video like give different situations and give like 3 options and we have to pick the right option I feel like that would help us. Please and thank you of course
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@Prezo321 I was thinking about doing this but I wasn’t sure if people would enjoy it, I think I’ll make one of these!
@Prezo3213 ай бұрын
@@Shorins22 that would be good. It would teach people like me how and what to do in those situations
@EldritchMephi3 ай бұрын
My brain problems make weighing risk/reward really difficult, you have no idea how helpful this is for me ❤ thank you. Edit: liked and subbed
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@EldritchMephi Of course! It’s a super difficult concept to understand in my opinion. I try not to worry about making the best decisions every time, but the more decisions I make while thinking about this framework the better I get at it :)
@ericgrose94033 ай бұрын
Would that video apply to any fighting game ideally?
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@ericgrose9403 yes it should apply to any fighting game! The idea is you want to weigh your options depending on how risky/rewarding they are :)
@ericgrose94033 ай бұрын
@@Shorins22 in other words, think before you act?
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@ericgrose9403 Kinda yeah! I think you should analyze your risk taking and decision making after you’ve made your decision too. The more you analyze decisions the better decisions you will make. (This can be especially helpful in replay analysis)
@SoulReaperAxel3 ай бұрын
I'll stay in plat had enough effort
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@SoulReaperAxel LOL
@lordronn4723 ай бұрын
Anti air sucks in this game
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
It might be difficult to use, but it’s absolutely necessary if you want to play at a high level.
@lordronn4723 ай бұрын
@@Shorins22 I know but I am not a fan of how it works here, in MK games there are better options
@Shorins223 ай бұрын
@@lordronn472 ahh gochya, I’ve never played nrs games but they’ve always seemed interesting to me.