3D Printed Tesla Turbine
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@michaelbarnes5269
@michaelbarnes5269 6 сағат бұрын
Yeah they were in fact touching lmao its not hard to fix just separate them a little but no you kept it like that even after saying im watching them touch lmao face palm
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 сағат бұрын
@@michaelbarnes5269 that was a replay of it 😄 I should have been more clear, I only found out after editing
@jacktastick
@jacktastick 7 сағат бұрын
Should have spent the sixty seconds connecting them properly. 😅
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 6 сағат бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 I'm adding a plug or shielding, just gonna get rid of the chance it will happen again
@chuckinshanks
@chuckinshanks 6 сағат бұрын
* 3 seconds
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 6 сағат бұрын
🤣
@jacktastick
@jacktastick 5 сағат бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint just wrap them an electrical tape for a minute.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 сағат бұрын
@@jacktastick yeah but then I'd have to every time it's been an issue before I'd rather eliminate the issue or *try to
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 8 сағат бұрын
Time to fix those connectors, Oops
@SurvivalSquirrel
@SurvivalSquirrel 11 сағат бұрын
You could do 2 tests. One with the propeller in the upper portion, and one at the bottom. You may need to add a buckt on the bottom, so no air gets in.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 сағат бұрын
That's a good idea! In theory the lower portion should provide more output. I believe air getting in would totally end the siphon correct? Or would small amounts of air just ruin efficiency?
@SurvivalSquirrel
@SurvivalSquirrel 11 сағат бұрын
It will work. Question is, how much will it give. You should then implement a better electric system. BTW. I find shorts for technical stuff totally wrong. No date, no controls...
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 сағат бұрын
This is a fair question. I think a different motor may work alot better with this system but for this one anything over 50W would be impressive. I'm not sure I follow on the shorts portion of the comment though
@mrsmooth6475
@mrsmooth6475 21 сағат бұрын
Change the angle of the turbine lower so the water can easily pass through and the turbine will spin faster
@glyn1
@glyn1 21 сағат бұрын
ADD MORE PITCH TO WORM DRIVE
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 21 сағат бұрын
You got it!
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 21 сағат бұрын
*YOU GOT IT!
@playdropfiretopstop
@playdropfiretopstop 22 сағат бұрын
You got a bridge rectifier in there my dude?
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 22 сағат бұрын
This one isn't a 3 phase motor, 12v dc. newest one will be and need one though!
@playdropfiretopstop
@playdropfiretopstop 15 сағат бұрын
@ dc motors still produce ac current. ac motors acually would not produce any power because there is no magnetic force except the armachure so it’s super inefficient for power producution. I would place a bridge rectifier on that aswell as a capacitor to buffer out the spikes in power and adjust your pulley design so that you get more rotation of the motor.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 сағат бұрын
@@playdropfiretopstop I will look into this more thank you! Yes I also agree I tested the 60T but realized I never posted the video for it
@Zodliness
@Zodliness 22 сағат бұрын
Adding a length of tube before the screw will create more water back pressure and a more consistent flow.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 22 сағат бұрын
Thank you I planned on adding more to the exit bit this makes sense for the Inlet too!
@I_am_Mr_Negative
@I_am_Mr_Negative 23 сағат бұрын
You need more downward pressure, like if you have a pipe and the water goes in and drops almost vertically, it would give more of a power reading.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 22 сағат бұрын
This seems like it would work well with the closed pipe Rev in the works! I'm also working on a turbine that is closed with a siphon effect. I just posted a short of it a little while ago (shamless plug)
@MrIrishalley
@MrIrishalley 23 сағат бұрын
why would you have the topside open? imo water flow = power, and being open its allowing the water to escape before using it to the full potential. so youre essentially letting the energy escape before flowing all the way down the turbine
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 23 сағат бұрын
The idea was to find the balance point of rpm to water speed and flow, it also has been pointed out that that's the idea case for them but at the moment rev 2 is a closed pipe. (In the works)
@MrIrishalley
@MrIrishalley 22 сағат бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint the more water pressure you have the more speed you should be able to obtain. and dont take this in a condescending way as i have no idea what you know and you probably already know this. when building a ram pump the more drop you have the better the pressure you can build (more pressure = more lift). this would be obtained by having a longer pipe many feet upstream and by time it gets to where the pump is at it will have "X" amount of head pressure relative to how much drop it has. in a case like this if you have more pressure (longer inlet for more drop) then it will spin faster.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 22 сағат бұрын
@@MrIrishalley no offense taken but yes that's correct, also know as head. It also could be because I'm working on another hydro turbine (just released another short) that would make it very similar and I wanted to keep the concept different. I agree though that should greatly improve efficiency
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint Күн бұрын
Think it will work?
@Wickedstickyflowers
@Wickedstickyflowers Күн бұрын
I think that would work better if it was inside a PVC PIPE THAT had a reservoir supporting the intake
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint Күн бұрын
This has been a common point, im going to see about going that route thank you!
@talebmahmoud2692
@talebmahmoud2692 Күн бұрын
Completely useless video demonstration. If I’m show you a car and it doesn’t start why would you want one? Same thing here.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint Күн бұрын
Well useless in what sense? That's a major apples to oranges comparison. See this isn't like buying a car, rather giving suggestions to engineer that designed it. Then I can improve the design and show its full potential. It takes time to get there and this is how we like to do it.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint Күн бұрын
The full video of the power test is also avaliable, that shows the "car" starting and driving!
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint Күн бұрын
That was unexpected 😂
@DavidCulverslicingblade
@DavidCulverslicingblade Күн бұрын
Throw a multimeter across the leads.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint Күн бұрын
I believe we did this in the full Screw Turbine Video! If not I will try and get it done this weekend
@DavidCulverslicingblade
@DavidCulverslicingblade Күн бұрын
@Beyond_The_Tint I'm gonna have to go watch it. Maybe play it well I'm doing the tool paths for the injection mold that's next week's project.
@tenaseolic
@tenaseolic 2 күн бұрын
la idea es buena! el tamaño no tanto para ese generador necesitas unir mínimo de 3 veces lineales por 4 de anchura! con suerte podrás obtener 150w
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for this comment! I'm not sure it would need to be that wide for that much power but I see what you're saying. Definitely needs more length and a closed tube
@tenaseolic
@tenaseolic 2 күн бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint si le cierras la tubería puede parecer mejor pero NO, puedes bloquear mas su flujo y perder rpm, ha de tener un equilibrio entre litros por seg y rpm! cuándo si se ha de cerrar es como en la mia de aspiración kaplan! cuándo son arquimedes al igual que una noria ha de entrar libre el agua con su propio fluido! si le das mas anchura de cangilones consigues un torque suficiente y con mas longitud mas presión y velocidad para poder con el freno de polea multiplicadora y el freno propio electromagnético del cogging! el ángulo parece bueno, entre 35 y 45° entre su eje y el alabe del cangilon! ánimo! seguro que resuelta eficiente
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to write this up! It gives a new perspective I hadn't had prior. I'll have to try this out and test, longer isn't too hard. Going 3x as wide will prove to be its challenging point.
@NunYaBeezWax80
@NunYaBeezWax80 2 күн бұрын
spiral wheels are great to expel power but are horrible at accumulating it. that is why wheels are used on river side granaries
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
I've been thinking of designing one of those newer more efficient style propellers that are being utilized in small scale wind turbines. Thank you for this comment though!
@eddyb1596
@eddyb1596 2 күн бұрын
You want more of a turbine or prop instead of a screw. The design you got is more for moving material. You want something that will be moved BY material.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
In theory shouldn't that material (water) have more force to act upon it? I agree in this particular spot a prob is much more efficient. My "Tow Turbine" project highlights on this and is likely close to what you mean.
@Ihateusername900
@Ihateusername900 2 күн бұрын
What if you put the blades on a wheel bearing that way it’ll make the blades spin easier
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
I like this idea alot! It's actually very close sounding to my "tow turbine" there's alot of videos on that as well
@bigdogl7072
@bigdogl7072 2 күн бұрын
Gear ratio make the gear on the screw shaft bigger than the one on the electric motor/generator. Quite a bit bigger. Plus maybe get the screw set up so most of the water has to fit through the screw.. kinda like a dam
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
In the full video I show this more. For this short it either is on a 80t (screw shaft) or a 60t to a 20t on the motor. It seemed like due to torque the 80 was just a little too high for this application. The next Rev will be a full closed tube like you said so the water has to flow through it. Thank you for this advice
@kristianbusby1895
@kristianbusby1895 2 күн бұрын
Love the idea. I'm no expert but I imagine a prop would work better in this application. Would love to hear more about the project!
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
Good advice comes from anyone in my opinion. You're absolutely correct this isn't the most efficient in this application but I just posted a different design with a prob! Check it out on the channel
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
What would you like to see improved?
@AlexDiesTrying
@AlexDiesTrying 22 сағат бұрын
Try different thread pitches. A steeper angle might work better. It's more of an obstacle when the angle is that close to 90 degrees. But a turbine might still be more powerful. An Archimedes screw like that works better for getting water uphill.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 22 сағат бұрын
@AlexDiesTrying thank you for the comment. I'll try this as well that's also been pointed out too. It's better at moving a medium rather than producing power from it!
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 2 күн бұрын
It was definitely a learning moment 😂
@My_Name_Is_Mud.
@My_Name_Is_Mud. 5 күн бұрын
Congratulations, my guy! Looks like it'll work great! Especially when you improve on your current design and take the advice given to you here in the comments to make it better/more efficient 😁 You just got a new subscriber! Cant wait to see where this project goes 😊
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 4 күн бұрын
Thank you! It's the comments that have driven these projects so far. Welcome to the circus 🤣
@muhrafikur
@muhrafikur 5 күн бұрын
niceee😮
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 4 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@Bbonno
@Bbonno 5 күн бұрын
That gear cassette is removable without changing the parts you are using. Just takes 10$ worth of specialty tools and a big spanner.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
I'll have to grab this tool! Thanks
@Bbonno
@Bbonno 5 күн бұрын
@Beyond_The_Tint look for 'casette removal tool' (it can grab the inside of the locking ring) and a 'chain whip'. It's a 5 minute job the second time you do it😜
@Idontrememberasking
@Idontrememberasking 5 күн бұрын
If your water source is on any kind of incline it easy to set up a downpipe. Way more efficient imo
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
I agree, I plan to add things like that into the design when it's more sound. It definitely would increase power and efficiency but I think it's important to improve the other components then add more in!
@Idontrememberasking
@Idontrememberasking 4 күн бұрын
What's the first thing on the list?
@nickyoung6031
@nickyoung6031 5 күн бұрын
It’s an incredible feeling to print something you put the effort into designing! A lot of people find it boring but love the colorful dragons. I’m the opposite.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
You're right it is an amazing feeling especially when it works as intended. The support from my viewers is also a huge driving force for me. You guys are amazing
@REG3305
@REG3305 5 күн бұрын
Seeing those gears makes me curious about separating the "turbine" and the generator and using the gearing to minimize startup forces and maybe maximize stator rpm.. idk, I'm just spitballing here..
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
It's funny you say that, I've been thinking of exactly this. It would also allow me to change the ratio very quickly to test various speeds. Fantastic idea
@REG3305
@REG3305 5 күн бұрын
@Beyond_The_Tint yes sir.. there will be losses to consider through the chain but you may have enough gear ratios to find one which the losses are negligible. Just my 2 cents. (Probably only worth a penny, though) Keep up the awesome work!
@Bbonno
@Bbonno 5 күн бұрын
Derailers don't like do do their thing while under full load, but it would be fun on a short term prototype.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
@@REG3305 I'll have to play around with this idea further, I agree though one should work better than the others
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
@@Bbonno I wasn't aware they had a preference! I'll have to do some testing but I agree on a short term prototype it should work out
@neilbarnett3046
@neilbarnett3046 5 күн бұрын
Why does it say Archimedes' screw when it isn't? That is, as shown, an undershot water wheel. Anyway, I look forward to seeing how it goes when you have finished the housing to direct the water and the baffles to stop water coming out of the edge and so on.
@TheSaviorLives2022
@TheSaviorLives2022 5 күн бұрын
Its a link to another video that shows an archimedes screw
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
Yes I linked that video as related! I'm still working on the archimedes screw turbine Rev 2. Thank you 😊
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
That's correct, thank you!
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
Check out my other hydro turbine projects! 🎉🎉🎉
@MinZhang-b4m
@MinZhang-b4m 5 күн бұрын
Awesome
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
Thank you
@MinZhang-b4m
@MinZhang-b4m 5 күн бұрын
@ hope you get more views. Very verynimpressed with the first pulley!
@DavidCulverslicingblade
@DavidCulverslicingblade 6 күн бұрын
just machine the pipe mount, square up the outer and its a pretty easy 3 axis part. Feel free to ping me if you want help making it as well
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 6 күн бұрын
I actually am working (with) a company that does metal 3D printing, but for other things I definitely will reach out. Thank you, it means alot! *fixed grammar*
@DavidCulverslicingblade
@DavidCulverslicingblade 6 күн бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint I'm jealous lol. I have a 4 axis mill and a small Swiss
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 6 күн бұрын
Stay tuned should have more details in next video, cost is much lower than you would think! I think I'm the one who's jealous here
@MrDan11422
@MrDan11422 9 күн бұрын
electric bill $$$$?
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 күн бұрын
Nah I charge a tesla here the printer is nothing, it's not really as bad as people think. Not to mention as its getting colder the energy isn't wasted as it's heating the room and keeping thermostat up, so in the end it's a balance!
@Aj0691202
@Aj0691202 9 күн бұрын
How slow are you printing?!
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 күн бұрын
I'd think it's at 60mm/s with this nozzle
@deep-fried-but-functional
@deep-fried-but-functional 9 күн бұрын
If you do large prints like this often especially on large machines it may be a good investment for a high flow hotend and large nozzles from slice engineering. Also I don’t think the Chiron comes with an auto bed leveling sensor so one will help a lot.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 күн бұрын
This is a great idea! Right now it has a .6mm hot end I've gone up to .8 for speed but ended up loosing some quality. I'll definitely check them out tho! It does come with one that clips on but it self destructed on the first tap lmao
@deep-fried-but-functional
@deep-fried-but-functional 9 күн бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint If you are going for anything quality the most you will really want to go is 1mm but they go all the way up to 2.4mm.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 күн бұрын
I'll check them out for sure thanks
@coylkoupourbinbarger2941
@coylkoupourbinbarger2941 9 күн бұрын
I've got an Ender 5 plus and it pushes filiment like crazy, longest print 200+ hours and 3000+ g of filiment. They are great machines, out of the box working better than any prusa and less than half the cost for significantly more build volume, thats why I've got several of them
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 күн бұрын
That's an insane print time! I've loved my bambu for anything that fits. I'm looking into the k2+ for size and speed
@bencheung3850
@bencheung3850 9 күн бұрын
I really like your thought process and trial and error! If I may make a suggestion, the water you’re working with is like a horizontal waterfall, so the area you’re working with should mate with something like a water wheel. Anything round will fight with any torque you’re going to get. You could try throwing a pvc pipe over the shaft, so you can direct a cylindrical water fall.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 5 күн бұрын
Check out my newest short! This is very much so a water wheel haha. Great advice for this one I'll definitely look into this
@HapaHeritage
@HapaHeritage 9 күн бұрын
That’s Genius❤️ A deployable power system. I think a wider turbine radius will increase the torque output. Maybe a “through shaft” generator to would help to add an adjustable flywheel to maintain speed. Or test a sping loaded cable so the cable can reset tension when binding.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 күн бұрын
Thank you, that's a great idea to help with some of that tension. I also like the flywheel idea too
@blockfifteen
@blockfifteen 9 күн бұрын
Idk even know the state of this project but make use of the benefits a printer brings. Make the shape less 2d extruded and more dynamic, so you have less stress concentration at each of the corners. I can explain more if you’d like
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 күн бұрын
I'm interested to hear more on this. This is the very first print so idea is to print something that works as cheap as possible but in the next one I'd love input!
@boy-who-likes-bats
@boy-who-likes-bats 9 күн бұрын
how are you liking the chiron, i hate mine haha
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 9 күн бұрын
I'll be honest I hated mine for a long time I don't use it much (only when it doesn't fit on bambu) but the past 2-3 times I've used it its been great. I can give you some input on it if you need help. I'm not an expert tho*
@boy-who-likes-bats
@boy-who-likes-bats 8 күн бұрын
@Beyond_The_Tint it randomly loses step after long prints, so i don't even want to bother printing on it when i have two new enders. the hotend clamp has warped, so now the hotend sits too high, the fan duct crashes into parts. new step sticks, but it still randomly loses steps. i've watched it, it doesn't crash or anything, one of the motors will bind and fight itself for a second or two and then resume at the wrong x/y point. they aren't warm or anything, and it happens regardless of printing from sd or usb.
@Onewheelcody11
@Onewheelcody11 11 күн бұрын
Yo that’s crazy
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 11 күн бұрын
It's giant
@julianherborn8225
@julianherborn8225 12 күн бұрын
Could it be the chamfer that made the small turbine unstable? As you already said, it's not getting pulled in and centered like the big one. As soon as you can reliably place the turbine with a constant Speed, you can use a large Potentiometer or another variable load, to measure Voltage and current instead of using a fixed resistor, so you can calculate or measure your peak power.
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 12 күн бұрын
I think it could be that partially, but the main factor seemed to be it tensioning the cable to the point it has to "flex" rather than the motor. I really like the idea with the potentiometer to regulate the resistance! Thanks
@RedsoloCup-c1d
@RedsoloCup-c1d 13 күн бұрын
Thats crazy i didnt know that thanks
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 12 күн бұрын
No problem! I'm actually using it right now haha
@vincentfernandez3256
@vincentfernandez3256 13 күн бұрын
What kind of motor is that?
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 12 күн бұрын
12v/24v brushed DC motor. 250w they are also called escooter motors
@Dailyroach
@Dailyroach 14 күн бұрын
dc motors dont make very good generators , you should use a three phase generator like one for a wind turbine .
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 12 күн бұрын
Stay tuned I have a 1000w ebike motor coming up!
@markyedlicka
@markyedlicka 16 күн бұрын
so cool
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 16 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 16 күн бұрын
Spelling is hard okay. Before I get roasted LINKED*
@jgren4048
@jgren4048 16 күн бұрын
Need to try a solid shaft , could also make a wide mouth combiner that will direct more water from the sides into the propeller I like the bevel on the inside, but try it twice as long, print one with a different pitch and see what that does. Good deal for you to try this. Good job. But don’t trust her, it was shorting out. 😂
@Beyond_The_Tint
@Beyond_The_Tint 11 күн бұрын
Check out my power on a stick vid! There's a collector on that just like you decribe. I'll see what I can do on this I'm just worried too much will make it unstable as well. 🤣 ik when I was editing I saw them and decided to really zoom in. That could have caused the jumping as well