You will get more power but you cannot utilise it, as to get the nominal volts, you will have to rotate the turbine with a required RPM to get voltages with which you can run your load
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
This is correct! Next we work on increasing RPM
@goingsterben2747Күн бұрын
Huh interesting
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Thank you!
@ShaddowbannedКүн бұрын
3d printed metal? That's nothing but a damn pool ladder my boi😂
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
It's the ends that the pipe bolts into that is metal (whole short is posted with it and my full video shows this more). It really is EMT tubing with braces I printed haha
@FlightFyre21Күн бұрын
Simple and straightforward design. Good work! It may not be the most efficient as someone mentioned in another comment, but often simpler is better!
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Thank you! From all of my other projects I would have to agree simple = better especially for design changes
@geminiveteranllcКүн бұрын
Hey, great job. By steadying the wheel, you were able to increase energy output. Great job trouble shooting, and noticing if you put the wheel further down, you'll get better output.You're getting the added force of gravity pushing down. 6.8 m/s2. Don't put it too far down, or I think you lose energy from a scatter effect (seems legit. I'm thinking of waterfalls. Maybe it doesn't matter at your height you're working with). Also, I still believe there is an ideal paddle size. If you have a constant water pressure, the size and weight of you're paddle matters by distance traveled per rotation, like tires on a vehicle. Too big, and you burn out the engine, too small and you'll never get anywhere. I bet someone has already figured out the ideal rotations per lbs of water pressure model. Also, the distance between each paddle matters. And finally, I started to wonder about the paddles themselves. Maybe a better shape that will capture as much resistance as possible. I feel like with a paddle, the energy is dispersed too efficiently, because it's allowed to go everywhere. Maybe a scoop concept might be better.
@Beyond_The_Tint15 сағат бұрын
I just want to thank you for the time and effort for writing this comment out! I wanna correct your gravity value for accuracy (9.8m/s^2) but that's a great point I should have included. I don't think the scatter effect is within reach currently but is also I future concern. I agree there is definitely an ideal paddle size and it can be improved. I probably should have lead with this but your comment on making it a scoop is genius! I thought of doing that but wanted to keep the cost low on the first test as this would require support to the top of the print. But for power I will do it! Thank you
@nathandean1687Күн бұрын
ok heat shrink on the connection will help protect the connections.
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Oh good idea 💡
@nathandean168720 сағат бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint worse case stretched over lapping black electrical tape will do the same thing
@Beyond_The_Tint19 сағат бұрын
I'll get right on it. Thanks again
@Hotshot0225Күн бұрын
neat
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Thank you
@EhhAbobКүн бұрын
I think something like that would work perfect pulling behind a kayak
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Looks like I habe something else to test, that or a sail boat was mentioned too!
@EhhAbobКүн бұрын
That's cool! I wish I could design nice stuff like that.
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Thank you! You gotta start somewhere
@EhhAbobКүн бұрын
@Beyond_The_Tint don't stop. I subscribed to your channel.
@joejohnson8983Күн бұрын
This is pretty awsome but what's the sprocket driving?
@lukeblyth8080Күн бұрын
It's the sprocket that's supposed to drive the ebike the motor came out of, but he's repurposed it in this video, hope this helps 👍
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
I couldn't have said it much better than this! Currently it's driving nothing (that will hopefully change in the future). I just figured id leave it on for now as hopefully I'll design something to utilize them in the coming future.
@joejohnson8983Күн бұрын
Now I understand. I didn't watch previous videos so wasn't sure. Can't wait to see what you do next.
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Thank you I appreciate it! We've come a long way and have so many amazing people here
@kristoffer82Күн бұрын
Wooow, you looked so cool doing that
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
👊
@johnwyman6126Күн бұрын
I applaud your efforts and walking the walk, but... an actual turbine fed by a pipe penstock will work so much better. Take a look at Harris hydroelectric, Motenergy, and Energy systems and design. These use Pelton and Turgo turbines. These are good for lower head systems.
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
I agree and wish I could, unfortunately I don't own this land but I might have something in the works! I will look into these turbines further as well.
@sneakybutpirateКүн бұрын
I think after a bit of water that hub motor and gear sprockets are gonna start rusting, should put a cover over to prevent water from getting in, other than that looks cool
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Thank you for this advice, I agree it will start to rust. It's one saving grace right now is the sheer amount of grease on it from being in use. Good idea I'll work on this
@EhhAbobКүн бұрын
@@sneakybutpirate that's sounds perfect. A plexiglass window would be nice.
@kuzadupa185Күн бұрын
I confirm, you looked very cool.
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
I needed this!
@kuzadupa185Күн бұрын
@Beyond_The_Tint great! I hope to see a follow up whete you make the frame work to hold the wheel in the water. Although that may be better off as a wood working project... not sure how well a plastic support structure made by a printer would do under the water pressure Btw if you are interested in generating power from water, i strongly recommend looking into VORTEX water generators. The wheel is horizontal, inside a circular frame. And you create inlets for water to push through. People have installed ones with 2 and even 3 inlets. They rework the stream/river so the water splits into narrower channels, one per inlet. And then using pipes/hoses they attach the inlets to the circular wall at the holes created for the water to exit and spray out. You can add valves before the outputs, incase TOO MUCH water is going / going too quickly, which may damage the gennie. Its very very effecient and should net much more electricity! Goodluck in your exploring of thjs
@AashiqAli2004Күн бұрын
goooood work budy
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Thank you! We've come a long way!
@doitinthedrivewayКүн бұрын
Really nice work. Excited to see what you do with it. I’m subscribed!
@Beyond_The_TintКүн бұрын
Thank you so much! Looking forward to what's next
@Beyond_The_Tint2 күн бұрын
Full Video is Live Now! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYqpaXx5oJZ4a8U
@azdec3 күн бұрын
Don't put motor in the wheel, use a gear and keep motor upstair. Nice project ;)
@Beyond_The_Tint3 күн бұрын
Thank you, I've been working on some designs for just this!
@SurvivalSquirrel3 күн бұрын
You actually need a mppt charger, that utilizes the optimal value to get max power.
@Beyond_The_Tint3 күн бұрын
Do I? I picked one up but need to look into this further. I thought it just kept the load steady for battery's and such
@SurvivalSquirrel3 күн бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint Yes, you have to. You may google, "solar mppt converters", which usually explains the problem.
@jethrinfoxx3 күн бұрын
Amazing video! I’m building something similar myself… I’m designing and 3D printing a turbine similar in concept as to what a company called Waterotor is producing. I have a low head constant stream of water near my house and I’m trying to produce some energy with it. Maybe you can try something similar in concept in another video, but you definitely want to increase RPMs of the rotor, these slow moving waters won’t work without a gear system. And in that case, I think achieving as much torque as possible is the goal here
@Beyond_The_Tint3 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'd love to hear more send me an email if you wanna talk about it further. I agree I think more rpm will be needed and the focus should be on getting that up along with the torque
@draconightwalker49643 күн бұрын
More RPM on the motor, its too slow. try gearing between the turbine and the motor. otherwise very nice work
@Beyond_The_Tint3 күн бұрын
That's what I'm thinking too! Thank you
@PopcornPapiii3 күн бұрын
Honestly surprised that the generator didn't perform better, look as if all stars were aligned with this project...
@Beyond_The_Tint3 күн бұрын
I agree! I think it's just due to rpm. I'm going to play around with some other ideas. I really think this motor on Pelton turbine would have been exceptional. I appreciate the comment though
@Beyond_The_Tint3 күн бұрын
Full video is posted now🎉 guess how much power it made
@E.kanimations6 күн бұрын
Nice
@Beyond_The_Tint6 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@E.kanimations6 күн бұрын
@ your welcome!
@mangjay8013 күн бұрын
Sangat menginspirasi😊
@Beyond_The_Tint13 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@jeffbarnard46815 күн бұрын
Can you let us know who printed that? Interested in 3D printed metal parts.
@Beyond_The_Tint15 күн бұрын
I thought I said it, PCBWay! Check them out
@jeffbarnard46815 күн бұрын
@Beyond_The_Tint thanks very much!
@1fastbusa115 күн бұрын
🫶
@jeffbarnard46817 күн бұрын
What 3D printer is this and how large of object can you print in height?
Get yourself a stepper motor and learn how to build a simple bridge rectifier son. You will get a LOT more usable power out of that than you will these cheap DC motors.
@Beyond_The_Tint19 күн бұрын
Thank you for this advice been looking into them recently
@MichaelZubrowskiАй бұрын
Suggestion 3 blades not 4 change angle of propeller so it makes power but cuts threw the water faster why still making more powersmaller gears more torque power
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
What is the benefit of 3 vs 4? Wouldn't 4 provide more surface area for the water to act upon? I agree with the pitch though
@MichaelZubrowskiАй бұрын
Look at how much power a boat propeller makes to push the boat it actually pushes the boat up out of water why pushing it across idk more power and all the boats props I see have 3 idk just a suggestion moves through the water quicker creating more spin power
@skybirdprojects5489Ай бұрын
Basically, this takes energy out of the water by changing it's direction (due to being in a conservative force field) and by changing it's ending velocity. So you are getting energy from gravity and preexisting potential energy. So your optimum impeller design will necessarily change based on how you use it, whether horizontally or vertically. If it is fully submerged, you need to treat it as both changing the direction of the water within the confines of the turbine, and as a diffuser that changes in volume over the length as some function of the impeller design.
@Beyond_The_Tint3 күн бұрын
This is a perfect write up! It had not even crossed my mind of the different forces for when it's fully submerged. I think I skipped that step
@ARMANDOFUENTES-x2lАй бұрын
Instead of a direct drive you could have the gears on the motor attach to a derailleur setup so you can alter the speed and torque that the wheel turns the motor.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
Since I started this project I've been thinking about that! It would be a simple way of testing the various speeds. Good idea
@michaelbarnes5269Ай бұрын
Yeah they were in fact touching lmao its not hard to fix just separate them a little but no you kept it like that even after saying im watching them touch lmao face palm
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
@@michaelbarnes5269 that was a replay of it 😄 I should have been more clear, I only found out after editing
@jacktastickАй бұрын
Should have spent the sixty seconds connecting them properly. 😅
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 I'm adding a plug or shielding, just gonna get rid of the chance it will happen again
@chuckinshanksАй бұрын
* 3 seconds
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
🤣
@jacktastickАй бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint just wrap them an electrical tape for a minute.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
@@jacktastick yeah but then I'd have to every time it's been an issue before I'd rather eliminate the issue or *try to
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
Time to fix those connectors, Oops
@SurvivalSquirrelАй бұрын
You could do 2 tests. One with the propeller in the upper portion, and one at the bottom. You may need to add a buckt on the bottom, so no air gets in.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
That's a good idea! In theory the lower portion should provide more output. I believe air getting in would totally end the siphon correct? Or would small amounts of air just ruin efficiency?
@SurvivalSquirrelАй бұрын
It will work. Question is, how much will it give. You should then implement a better electric system. BTW. I find shorts for technical stuff totally wrong. No date, no controls...
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
This is a fair question. I think a different motor may work alot better with this system but for this one anything over 50W would be impressive. I'm not sure I follow on the shorts portion of the comment though
@mrsmooth6475Ай бұрын
Change the angle of the turbine lower so the water can easily pass through and the turbine will spin faster
@glyn1Ай бұрын
ADD MORE PITCH TO WORM DRIVE
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
You got it!
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
*YOU GOT IT!
@playdropfiretopstopАй бұрын
You got a bridge rectifier in there my dude?
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
This one isn't a 3 phase motor, 12v dc. newest one will be and need one though!
@playdropfiretopstopАй бұрын
@ dc motors still produce ac current. ac motors acually would not produce any power because there is no magnetic force except the armachure so it’s super inefficient for power producution. I would place a bridge rectifier on that aswell as a capacitor to buffer out the spikes in power and adjust your pulley design so that you get more rotation of the motor.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
@@playdropfiretopstop I will look into this more thank you! Yes I also agree I tested the 60T but realized I never posted the video for it
@ZodlinessАй бұрын
Adding a length of tube before the screw will create more water back pressure and a more consistent flow.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
Thank you I planned on adding more to the exit bit this makes sense for the Inlet too!
@I_am_Mr_NegativeАй бұрын
You need more downward pressure, like if you have a pipe and the water goes in and drops almost vertically, it would give more of a power reading.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
This seems like it would work well with the closed pipe Rev in the works! I'm also working on a turbine that is closed with a siphon effect. I just posted a short of it a little while ago (shamless plug)
@I_am_Mr_NegativeАй бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint I'll have a watch now
@MrIrishalleyАй бұрын
why would you have the topside open? imo water flow = power, and being open its allowing the water to escape before using it to the full potential. so youre essentially letting the energy escape before flowing all the way down the turbine
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
The idea was to find the balance point of rpm to water speed and flow, it also has been pointed out that that's the idea case for them but at the moment rev 2 is a closed pipe. (In the works)
@MrIrishalleyАй бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint the more water pressure you have the more speed you should be able to obtain. and dont take this in a condescending way as i have no idea what you know and you probably already know this. when building a ram pump the more drop you have the better the pressure you can build (more pressure = more lift). this would be obtained by having a longer pipe many feet upstream and by time it gets to where the pump is at it will have "X" amount of head pressure relative to how much drop it has. in a case like this if you have more pressure (longer inlet for more drop) then it will spin faster.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
@@MrIrishalley no offense taken but yes that's correct, also know as head. It also could be because I'm working on another hydro turbine (just released another short) that would make it very similar and I wanted to keep the concept different. I agree though that should greatly improve efficiency
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
Think it will work?
@WickedstickyflowersАй бұрын
I think that would work better if it was inside a PVC PIPE THAT had a reservoir supporting the intake
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
This has been a common point, im going to see about going that route thank you!
@talebmahmoud2692Ай бұрын
Completely useless video demonstration. If I’m show you a car and it doesn’t start why would you want one? Same thing here.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
Well useless in what sense? That's a major apples to oranges comparison. See this isn't like buying a car, rather giving suggestions to engineer that designed it. Then I can improve the design and show its full potential. It takes time to get there and this is how we like to do it.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
The full video of the power test is also avaliable, that shows the "car" starting and driving!
@talebmahmoud2692Ай бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint you got a product that doesn’t work you got stuck on the word car like an idiot. ---------the point-------- ---------your head--------
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
That was unexpected 😂
@DavidCulverslicingbladeАй бұрын
Throw a multimeter across the leads.
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
I believe we did this in the full Screw Turbine Video! If not I will try and get it done this weekend
@DavidCulverslicingbladeАй бұрын
@Beyond_The_Tint I'm gonna have to go watch it. Maybe play it well I'm doing the tool paths for the injection mold that's next week's project.
@tenaseolicАй бұрын
la idea es buena! el tamaño no tanto para ese generador necesitas unir mínimo de 3 veces lineales por 4 de anchura! con suerte podrás obtener 150w
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
Thank you for this comment! I'm not sure it would need to be that wide for that much power but I see what you're saying. Definitely needs more length and a closed tube
@tenaseolicАй бұрын
@@Beyond_The_Tint si le cierras la tubería puede parecer mejor pero NO, puedes bloquear mas su flujo y perder rpm, ha de tener un equilibrio entre litros por seg y rpm! cuándo si se ha de cerrar es como en la mia de aspiración kaplan! cuándo son arquimedes al igual que una noria ha de entrar libre el agua con su propio fluido! si le das mas anchura de cangilones consigues un torque suficiente y con mas longitud mas presión y velocidad para poder con el freno de polea multiplicadora y el freno propio electromagnético del cogging! el ángulo parece bueno, entre 35 y 45° entre su eje y el alabe del cangilon! ánimo! seguro que resuelta eficiente
@Beyond_The_TintАй бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to write this up! It gives a new perspective I hadn't had prior. I'll have to try this out and test, longer isn't too hard. Going 3x as wide will prove to be its challenging point.