I wouldn't recommend it. Usually it just creates problems
@alakovideo2 ай бұрын
Multiband gates help a lot with the tom gating, you can set the frequency bandwidth to cover just the fundamental of the tom that way it'll only open for that. It isn't available on the SSL channel strip, but I'm pretty sure a Digico would have something for side-chaining an EQ'd signal to a gate to do this. *edit - also, with the new dynamic eq feature you can pull down a normal eq band to get rid of harsh cymbal frequencies before the gate, then have a dynamic eq band that pulls it back up in response to a sidechained signal of the fundamental tom frequency so that the higher freq smack of the skin is still there, but only when the tom gets hit. Hugely increases dynamic range in a very natural way. Maybe overkill, but super cool there's heaps of options now to mitigate bleed!
@thepowerplaceproduction2 ай бұрын
Unless it's a side chain filter it's also going to wreck the phase of your other drums if you only do it to one channel.
@alakovideo2 ай бұрын
@@thepowerplaceproduction For the multiband gate or dynamic eq?
@thepowerplaceproduction2 ай бұрын
@@alakovideo anything multi band on a multi mic'd instruments like drums needs to be done to all drums or no drums usually. its adding crossover points and rotating the phase a bunch. Not that you can't...if you cut out all the bleed in post then it's less of an issue. I try to stay away from multi band. Dynamic eq is fine!
@moodykid15442 ай бұрын
this is first time sound guy loves coldplay God bless
@narioesprit45163 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have done this better! Well explained 👏 👏👏
@ExciterY16zr3 ай бұрын
Yo ikilo sg tak maksud tellungkoco🎉 LCDne masuk deck
@pour-g86773 ай бұрын
None of his techniques matters since he used the tunebot anyways 🤣 and its a troll you show beginners to stand in the snare with your dirty ugly shoes ✌️.. thanks for the effort making this video anyways.. and by the way all the effort got wasted from tuning the bottom head cause you just stand on it and you need to retune it again
@hanisiblini3 ай бұрын
best video so far thank you
@TimofeiJuravlev4 ай бұрын
Guys you are awesome 😎. It really helps me to understand what is going on with plastics and drums. I using tunebot studio for 8 months but never really develope my ears. Actually your video is listening as a podcast so great😂
@jeffinsvarghese89075 ай бұрын
One doubt is that i could see the meter are shouting valume as high is it like you set you amplifier in desire value. cuz I doubt like its too lought right? normally from the PA Amp we use to drive half of the volume.
@bigred5755 ай бұрын
The SM57 is too flat. It should angled more towards the center of the drum…
@charlesvorce56055 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! "We don't want people to be sad." My favorite quote. As an old sound person who has been around from the analog to digital conversion, I can say this is a wonderful and very informative guide. I learned some things! Thank you Ryan!
@devontehutchins87345 ай бұрын
George of the jungle. Will never forget this advice. Thanks!
@EvangelCommunityChurch5 ай бұрын
Great Video on Gain structure!!!
@DbiPro6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@LTModels6 ай бұрын
To me the floor tom sounds higher?
@KLRCAT7 ай бұрын
2:03 - "Zero is clipping" Well, that depends on what you are talking about/looking at. input meters or fader meters? (these can be different things if you are looking at software or the desk itself) Also depends on the manufacturer of the desk you are using, as I know that Behringer and Allan & Heath set their metering up a little differently.
@atillakandemir64397 ай бұрын
Sounds like a cardboard box
@prw4797 ай бұрын
Good explanation, but simpler the chain the easier the gain structure, digial or analog. The more plug ins used the more complicated it can get. Also sometimes we get plug in crazy, close tour eyes and listen to changes or toggle them on and off. If its not that big of differnce then you might not need it. Somwtimes i have to catch myslef to not use womehtinf just because i may barely hear it but may not be worh instering into the signal chain.
@DecoJunior7 ай бұрын
It sounds great. Congratulations. Big problem I see today is how to train this kind of Mixing if I don’t even access the Worship style multitracks.
@andreasjonsson80758 ай бұрын
Uses a black beauty as a ladder. Epic
@kausalschroed8 ай бұрын
Sorry buddy, U made a massive mistake due tuning the Bottom head. 👆 I have got the same tunebot on my own. When u use the tunebot on the Bottom head and u go near or over 400 hertz u must use the high frequency Button on the tunebot. Otherwise it could be u allways get 400hertz because in normal Mode the tunebot can't detect higher. It is it's maximum When u Hit the high frequency Button the tunebot will be able to detect more than 400 hertz 😉 U r welcome 😉🤟🥁🤟
@thepowerplaceproduction8 ай бұрын
Never knew that! Thanks for sharing I’ll have to try that out!
@isaacpn78 ай бұрын
Great video. I’m the worship director at my church here California. We currently have an x32 and it’s on his last breath. 😅. We planning on going the next step up and s31 seems like a great option for us. This videos you do are supper helpful. I do have some questions. Do you do any consulting ñ? Is the are way we can contact you?
@thepowerplaceproduction8 ай бұрын
Hey there! You can email Ryan at [email protected] and he can help you figure out what will work best for you and get you set up and running.
@oXjqd8ljGAUCx5Hy1oicy2Sc8 ай бұрын
This is a very useful video, but I have a different opinion. If I mix everything I can in the studio, I can't do that in a live system, because safety is very important with power amplifiers and speakers dealing with large voltages. So I add a little bit of transients on the drums at line level so that they light up at +3dB, and the end result is that I want the mix to run safely at line level. This is to prevent clipping on sudden input signals and subsequently protect the system if you don't have a dynamic processor. The desired mix is an operation, but it is also an operation to keep the system running well.
@jensloetzsch9 ай бұрын
Very good explanations, especially the important topics of peak level and average level and how to handle them. Great video !
@josiahlagangan14689 ай бұрын
Hi! What iem do you use?
@aleduon853310 ай бұрын
Hi. Can you tell me if you can record with this console at 96 kHz via USB, or is it limited to 48? Great videos, by the way! Thank you.
@thepowerplaceproduction10 ай бұрын
You can run the console at 96k or 48k and record at the same time. But the recording sample rate is always 48k.
@TRC_PNW10 ай бұрын
Solid video but I’m not standing on my Black Beauty or any of my snares for that matter! 😳😁 Instead, I tighten the top head really tight and let it sit overnight, then tune the next day. I also tune the top head to about 300hz so the fundamental of the drum ends up about a G or G# but this is more Bohnam than big fat snare sound.
@brentdeady10 ай бұрын
Hey sir! I'm an audio tech at my church. We have the exact same set up at one of our campuses. Digico S31 60 channel version, Hear Tech WSG Bridge , Waves Soundgrid Impact server, and Superrack. For some reason when we use the insert send and return audio will pass through Superrack but no audio will come out of the console but as soon as we turn the insert off the audio will pass through again. Heres an example of an input and signal flow...Shure ULXD Mic comes into the S31 as a Dante input, then insert (send and return) Dante out to the bridge then out to the vocal bus, then master. We have a workaround set up in the mean time but that is not preferred. With the way we currently have it working if the server were to crash or Any ideas on what we could be doing wrong? We have to be missing something. I have spoken with Hear Tech support, Waves and Digico to no avail. We performed some needed updates but its still not working as designed. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!!
Awesome video, loved this one and the black beauty tuning video! Question, how does a non drummer get into teching drums? Lol
@thepowerplaceproduction10 ай бұрын
Great question! If you’re a house tech then I recommend spending everyday trying to practice it a little bit. The more you do it the faster you will develop an ear for it. If you aren’t ask to borrow a friends drum or buy a cheap one to learn how it works. Never ask to tune a drummers kit if you aren’t sure you can improve a sound/fix a problem for sure or you end up making a fool of yourself and it’s not a good way to steward that relationship. The goal is to serve the drummer and help them sound their best.
@Kobozo37510 ай бұрын
That was an excellent guide, thank you so much!
@thepowerplaceproduction10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@DbiPro10 ай бұрын
God bless you thank you so much for taking the time to do this because we don’t have anyone to show us and we’re trying so hard to do as good as we can and do research to figure things out and put the pieces together
@DbiPro10 ай бұрын
I have issues with snares clipping
@thepowerplaceproduction10 ай бұрын
If your running it at a good signal level but running into clipping it’s possible the drummer has bad playing technique and is hitting really light AND really hard. Try using a bit more compression than you normally would!
@cescii411 ай бұрын
This is brilliant!!
@cescii411 ай бұрын
LOVE this!
@Rankage111 ай бұрын
If your console meters were setup to be RMS instead of PEAK would you just gain every channel to -18?
@thepowerplaceproduction11 ай бұрын
Yeah but in my experience the only desk that offers true RMS metering is the Avid S6L. I think digico is just digital or “analog” style metering. If it’s analog vu style shoot for 0 on most things but -5 or -7 for low end stuff.
@thepowerplaceproduction11 ай бұрын
Also not every channel is going to work at the same gain level. Especially if it’s a dynamic input. Pastors/speakers who talk regular and pastors/speakers who yell and get all hyped up is a great example of where you might need to leave more or less room. Depends on what you’re mixing a little bit.
@Rankage111 ай бұрын
You can get a similar result by adjusting the ballistics surely?@@thepowerplaceproduction
@shaunfine966711 ай бұрын
One of the best videos I've seen regarding mixing. Captions that let people know what you are doing why is incredible. Most people do not take time to do this. I hope you consider doing more like this. Thank you!
@thepowerplaceproduction11 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you! Will be trying to make more like this in 2024.
@joeljaemaa958611 ай бұрын
My man why you clipping the hell out of the master bus
@thepowerplaceproduction11 ай бұрын
That desk shows clipping before actual clipping. It’s annoying. The broadcast feed is what is metering and it has an L2 set to -1.0. Always shows red on the desk around -4 but it’s fine. I guess they think it’s to warn you. To me it makes it useless. It also reads -18 as -20. It’s weird! I don’t recommend clipping your converters haha
@larssehlstedt990911 ай бұрын
Livesound has cometo be too Hitech and studio thinking
@thepowerplaceproduction11 ай бұрын
I guess people are just used to better mixes now so we have to keep up. Keeps me learning! Especially with broadcast coming off the console these days. It has to be a good mix on the desk first before the room or your fired haha
@gabrieldoval Жыл бұрын
Sound saturating
@vedantsoundbhiwandi7394 Жыл бұрын
Hiii
@aaronaustin7760 Жыл бұрын
What is being fed to your IE? The main outs? Thank you for posting!
@thepowerplaceproduction Жыл бұрын
The IEM feed is the stream mix. The stream mix is the main pa mix with the crowd mics added. No separate mixes.
@simonbroke-smith7783 Жыл бұрын
Lots of good suggestions. However recommend fitting butt end snare wire end fitting first as the position won’t move like the strainer end. You say that the snare wires you have fitted are Puresound. Unfortunately this is incorrect as (1) Puresound have straight ended brass end plates (2) Puresound don’t make more than 30 strand snare wires not 40 (3) these are probably Gibraltar 42 strand wires - still great wires though!! 🤘😁🥁👍
@olumayowaadebiyi6526 Жыл бұрын
Any tutorials using the actual plugins on the board
@thepowerplaceproduction Жыл бұрын
There are no plugins on the board just normal digital EQ and dynamics.
@9strongman9 Жыл бұрын
Got that Chris greely preset eh?
@thepowerplaceproduction Жыл бұрын
Love Chris! Learned so much from him. Chris, Vance Powell, and Michael Brauer are my favorites.
@9strongman9 Жыл бұрын
Right On brother! @@thepowerplaceproduction
@christiaanbezuidenhout6984 Жыл бұрын
From working on both A&H SQ's and Digico S-series consoles frequently, I've seen a couple of differences. You can pick and choose which works better for you, but there are my experiences: A&H SQ has 48 inputs PLUS 8 Stereo FX returns on top of the 48. On the S21/31 you have to use your input channels for FX returns (robbing you of input channels) SQ > S31 BUT, on the SQ you have to merge channels to create stereo channels, robbing you of channels. On the S31 you have 48 flexi channels which can all be used as stereo inputs. SQ<S31 SQ has 12 Stereo Mixes PLUS 4 dedicated FX Sends. On S21/31 you have 16 Stereo mixes, but again, have to use them for FX sends. But their totals are equal. SQ = S31 SQ has something called "Mix external inputs" which are additional input channels that are fed directly to mixes, without using up the 48 processing channels. S31 has nothing such. SQ > S31 S31 has 21 Dynamic EQ's PLUS Multi-band compressors. SQ has non such. Only normal EQ and compressor. SQ<S31 On SQ, you can assign any channel (input, output, FX, DCA, etc), to appear on multiple layers. On S31, any given channel can ONLY appear on ONE layer. If you have the Kick on layer 1, it can not be on another layer. That sucks big time. SQ > S31 On the SQ you have plenty of 'Soft-key' shortcuts which can be assigned to do anything. On the S31, you have...... zero. SQ > S31 S31 has a limited amount of 'sources' that can be sent to a matrix.. SQ can send ALL groups/mixes to any matrix. SQ > S31 S31 has 8x Mono Matrices, that must be linked in order to create 4x Stereo matrices. SQ only has 3 matrices that are either Mono or stereo, but always 3. SQ < S31 SQ has smart Talkback system for Monitor and FOH engineers.. S31 has non such. SQ > 31 S31 has dual "solo" paths... SQ only has one. SQ < S31 S31 has a spill set function. SQ has non such. SQ < S31 SQ has built in 48ch AMM, S31 needs a DMI card for such function. SQ > S31 SQ has one expansion slot for cards, S31 has two. SQ < S31 SQ has 7 "Direct Out" tapping point options. S31 only has 3. SQ > S31 SQ scribble strip allows only 6 characters. S31 allows 18. SQ < S31 There are plenty of other little differences. But from working with both of these consoles extensively, I have found more frustrations with the S-series consoles and more love with the SQ consoles. But again, each to his own. BOTH consoles are TOP end and sound amazing.
@thepowerplaceproduction Жыл бұрын
A&H for sure has more “features and customization” and more extra flexibility with extra channels and stuff. Personally really not a fan of it though. It sounds dark and compressed to me, but other people make it sound awesome! With waves though it’s really not better/worse, just a different way of getting to the same place. The fx on A&H are great. Digico’s fx are a total joke sometimes. I think digico is the easiest to understand because everything feels the same no matter what your doing, and the routing is more point to point and easier to not get lost in soft patching between stuff.
@DontMe__ Жыл бұрын
The way you guy do things is sometimes so unconventional but it sounds so good!
@DontMe__ Жыл бұрын
Hiya. Is it just me or is the sound coming from the console in this video mono?
@thepowerplaceproduction Жыл бұрын
It’s mono. All these videos are. I think it got recorded that way by accident. The mix isn’t really a mix per say. Just some tracks we ran through the desk to film. So it’s more about the info than the sound. Check out some of our other videos on building the mix to actually hear a stereo mix!
@vicedwards4651 Жыл бұрын
Too much messing about man its a black beauty it can almost tune itself 😂