That's awesome! Ever since starting this channel, I have found there are _so many_ people out there who love and appreciate these older and lesser-known games like I do. Before putting these videos out, I thought my taste in games was sort of an anomaly. But it's quite the opposite. There are still _plenty_ of gamers out there like us!! It's refreshing.

Yes, sadly it's out of print. Check eBay or the GeekMarket on Board Game Geek. I don't know if you'll be able to find a new copy, but there are a few used copies floating around out there. Keep your eyes open! The Pegasus Spiele edition is better than the Quined Games edition (Quined uses symbols, Pegasus uses text).

Thank you for the kind words, and for noticing that I never focus on my face! In fact, part of my entire "brand" is staying completely anonymous (undiscovered). I like to focus only on the game. Obviously I share my opinions on games, but I like to keep my videos strictly about the games. So I appreciate your comment very much!!

@@undiscovered_games your camera angle is good too - great to see your hand gestures next to the pieces

Thanks for the comment! Hey, 1 out of 42 episodes that you don't love... I'll take it! ;) To elaborate on your comment, I'm curious if you like Puerto Rico and your thoughts comparing it to Constantinopolis? What I find most interesting here is the turn order track & bidding for those special abilities. To me, that solves the main problem I have with Puerto Rico, which is how the clockwise turn order dictates the special actions available to you, and how that can really determine some important outcomes in that game. Here, it's how badly you want a certain ability, how much you're willing to pay for it, and also the turn order not being clockwise. I also like how Constantinopolis deals with resource production & conversion (it feels more streamlined than Puerto Rico, which has lots of text on the tiles & such). I could definitely see what you say about it reaching a threshold where you feel like you've seen all the game has to offer. So far we have played about 10-11 games of Constantinopolis so far and I feel like it has lots of plays left. I'm still discovering some reactionary/tactical plays based on what my opponents do, some other pathways to victory I haven't discovered yet. But again, I can definitely forsee a time in the future where I've played this game enough... not quite there yet! Thanks again for watching & commenting! I appreciate it!

@@undiscovered_games Yeah I agree this game does fix turn order problem and overall this game is a fine set of mechanics sitting on a solid chassis of a game. What i believe to be the problem is the game landed in the laps of Fantasy Flight Games. Not a bad game publisher at all, but let's face it Euro games just are not their forte. In my experience their attempts at Euros show them give up on a game too quickly. My feeling is this game had some more chrome to it from the get go (the kinds of things that would extend the playability ofthe game) and they probably culled some of that out thinking (like FFG does) that ship the expansion when successful. Yet when the game isn't an instant success (as they aren't really known for Euros) they just give up on it. Exodus Fleet is another game that excellently fixes the Puerto Rico issues and I love that game.

@@IamTHoiA thanks for the detailed reply! I think you’re probably right about FFG. It’s sad when the business side of the industry takes precedence over the games themselves, but such is the way of the world I guess. I have not played Exodus Fleet so I will definitely be doing some research!! Thanks for the tip!

Yes, for me this one stands alone in the world of area majority games. It really feels unique and does some things that no other games do in my collection. Just like you said, I would never consider getting rid of this game!

That's a great question! I've never considered counting the hero twice in that situation, and here's why: The way the rules are written, it talks about "valid colors." You only count the values of army cards in your valid colors. Also, it says the hero card, once deployed, counts as a "standard army card." Therefore, the way I read that, you would either count your army cards in 1 valid color (fate + hero are the same color) or 2 valid colors (fate + hero are different colors). I don't think you would double up your hero (because it counts as a standard army card once you deploy it). After reading your comment, though, I can definitely see an argument for counting the hero twice. However, my gut feeling is you do not. Hope that helps!! Thanks for the great comment!

@@undiscovered_games yes, that was the way we played today & the day before we played the other way and if I'm being honest it didn't make much difference because I've yet to win playing against my wife , lol. But I do appreciate your taking the time to respond & I actually think that your interpretation is the correct one. Love discovering these games via your channel 👍

That's awesome you're enjoying this one, and I'm happy to help out! My wife and I love this one (she always beats me too haha). I feel strongly that this is _very_ unfairly rated on BGG. Some games I can understand why they have lower BGG ratings even when I like them. But this one at a 5.4 seems _very_ unfair!!

Ah yes, the 4:30am board game binge watching: I've been there soo many times LOL!!! Good question! If you tie for most palaces & houses, it's just a shared victory at that point. You could probably come up with a house rule, though. I'm thinking something like whoever placed their final palace first, or something like that. The Bridges of Shangri La is my fav Colovini game. Absolutely brilliant. I never really considered that an undiscovered game, but it seems like I encounter a lot of people have never played it (or never even heard of it), so maybe I need to make a video on it! You _definitely_ need to play Bridges sometime soon. It's so good... sadly hard to find but keep your eyes open. Thanks for watching as always!!

Thanks for the comment and the suggestion! I actually have an episode planned for that exact topic. Maybe I’ll do that one next 🤔 If not, then definitely soon!!!

👏 👏 you win! 🏆 I _did_ put that in there on purpose. I try to throw in little things like that when I edit, so thank you for noticing! You’ll probably notice some other stuff if you look closely in my other vids. That’s so awesome you caught it!!! Thanks for watching!

Neue Spiele im Alten Rom is in my collection! I have not played it yet, but it’s definitely high on my “to play” list. I want to play through all 14 games and make some videos on it 😃 I believe the original Tutankhamen is in that box too, if I’m not mistaken. I covered Tutankhamen earlier on my channel. Also, I do have King’s Road but have yet to get it to the table. It will be interesting to see how it compares to Doge. I really appreciate your comment! Thanks for watching & for sharing the interesting Knizia tidbits of knowledge! Very cool!

Thanks for the comment! Hope you get to try it soon!!

Thanks for the great comment as always! Ys is actually on my shelf of shame, so that's a start!! I have owned it for several years and never got around to playing it! I am vaguely familiar with how it plays, so I will definitely check out COTB's video. Your comment has given me some motivation to get Ys played soon!! I'll let you know how I like it. In Doge, I love how you reveal part of your blind bid (the district) but keep the total votes hidden. It sounds like Ys does something similar by bidding half your tokens hidden. Can't wait to check it out!!

Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. I _completely_ agree with what you said. The game IS the players. Those are the best types of games, and I feel like now that I've realized that, I cannot go back to the other games. I still have a few of those that I love from years past, but I'm rarely in the mood to learn all the new ones with all those new rules & icons & such. These older games had elegantly simple rulesets with deep, interactive gameplay. Thanks again for the great comment!

I absolutely agree, so true with a lot of these older euro games. 😊

😂😂😂 I know that feeling all too well haha

@@undiscovered_games 🤣🤣🤣

I share that feeling!😅

Thank you! I think you’ll love it! It’s a perfect use of blind bidding with fixed numbers. I love the interaction of trying to get inside your opponents’ heads & then being forced to get in each other’s way on the board. It’s a unique game for sure!

Do it!!! It’s a surprisingly thinky game that gets even deeper the more you play. It’s so fun to try to outguess your opponents.

That’s awesome you’ve played Aladdin’s Dragons. That’s a fun undiscovered game too, but I definitely like Doge better for blind bidding with fixed tokens. Aladdin’s Dragons feels like I’m reacting to the game more than my opponents (like 70% game and 30% opponents). It’s more about the resources, cards, & tiles that come out & how heavy I want to bid on certain spots. Doge feels like I’m reacting to my opponents more than game (like 70% opponents and 30% game). The only thing the game itself does is providing the order of scoring. The rest is entirely up to the players, which feels much deeper & crunchier & more interactive. Thanks for watching! Let me know how you like Doge!

Haha whew!! 😅 A money-saving episode 😂 That’s good to know you enjoy it too. It confirms that my audience and I are on the same page. 👍

@@undiscovered_games Good idea. I'll classify your videos between "money-saving episodes" and "financially wrecking" ones (mainly because shipping to my country is not cheap 🫠).

That's so awesome! Thanks for sharing! This was my favorite "new to me" game in 2023, and it has firmly made its way into my Top 20 of all time. I totally agree with everything you said. It's a true gem of a game, and after 14 plays I'm still loving it just as much!

@@undiscovered_games I hear there is a reprint in the works called Sardegna, possibly available this fall!

I heard rumors of that too! This game desperately needs a reprint! Strangely, right after I released this video last year, I started hearing rumblings of a reprint. I wonder if my video had anything to do with that, or if it was purely a coincidence. 🤔

Happy to help! I’m glad to have you on board!

Thanks man!! This one is nice. Nothing fancy but definitely a solid game all around.

Haha I love this comment. I will say the game is much better in its physical form. It just seems kinda quick and light to warrant a box this big. But you’re correct, I think it would make a PERFECT office game!!! You won’t regret it. Thanks for watching!!

In this case... a black, white, gray, pink, or brown submarine LOL

Hey, there's a very cool idea! Thanks for the comment! :)

It's one of my favorite mechanisms and decisions in the game! I typically love anything that makes a game more interactive, and that does it. I can see what you mean about the theme, but the way I see it, you're harvesting their field for them, so you're doing the work (and they get paid with a victory point). I love deciding whether to help my opponents or not. Another note regarding theme: Personally, I have never been a theme-forward gamer (meaning I don't really care if the mechanisms make sense thematically). I just want an interesting puzzle with fun mechanisms. I also want a neat setting with great artwork, which this game has. But it's still a euro game through and through, so naturally you won't find this to be a hugely thematic experience, and that's my favorite type of game: fun mechanisms with a light sprinkle of theme. Thanks for the comment!

Whoa, that's crazy! That is worded horribly in the rulebook, but I think you are correct. It says if you land on an empty harbor, you no longer have an active harbor tile. That changes the whole strategy of moving, and wow... I don't think I like that rule. I've always liked deciding whether or not I want to end my movement on an empty space so I could keep a certain harbor tile active. I can't imagine it would change the outcome of the game drastically, but it certainly changes the strategy of moving. Thanks for pointing that out, and I will add this to the rules clarifications of the video.

Thanks for watching! Hope you can find a copy and try it out! It's a great little filler game for couples!

Weird, I just looked and yeah, the Megalith box says “a variant of Stonehenge” so I bet it’s not quite the same. Stonehenge also is listed as a “reimplementation” of Linea, which appears to be a print & play on paper or something?? But it looks like a different grid and different number distribution. Interesting! This seems like a game that could totally be reprinted today.

Thanks for watching and for the great variant idea! The rulebook has a variant to play with all face down disks and then reveal them at the end, but I like your idea of 1 up and 1 down. It definitely seems like it could work!! Playing the game on paper definitely isn’t quite the same as these awesome wooden pieces, but it definitely can give you a good idea of some strategies to try out. I’ve seen this play out very differently every time I’ve played. I’ve tried to figure out where the best place is to place my higher numbers. You’d think in the center would be ideal, but those larger rows are harder to dominate because they require more disks. Often times I end up placing my larger numbers in the shorter rows when my opponent has used all their large numbers because it guarantees me a row with 1 placement. It’s much trickier than it seems at first. I love trying to control multiple rows with one placement, especially before the rows are full. It’s quite satisfying to pull off those types of moves! I’m going to try your variant idea next time I play. It sounds fun!!!

It’s a looker for sure! One of my fav thrift store finds over the past 5 years!

Thanks! I _have_ played through the decathlon game! It’s so good! One of my favorite little dice fillers came out of that. I forget which “event” it was, but we call it “1, 4, 24.” We play that one all the time! Giants is on my shelf of shame!!! I realllllly need to play it soon! It’s been sitting there for years 😩

@undiscovered_games what is your favorite Knizia filler. Mine is Excape. So simple but always hilarious.

@@coalitionofseekers9572 man that’s a crazy hard question 😁 and an excellent question to ponder. I’ll have to think on it for awhile. Sooooo many to choose from. Excape has been a go-to game for our family game nights: such a fun design (we have the Rapido edition). High Society and Dragon Parade are both great. But the first one that came to mind when I read your question was Quandary. I love that game so much and it’s so addicting. Genesis is a borderline filler but I don’t think that counts as a pure filler game. I’m sure I’m forgetting some obvious ones that I can’t recall … Lost Cities of course. I honestly don’t think I could choose a favorite 😅 😂

Absolutely agree. How 1 guy can create 800 games is baffling to me, and like you said, there may be a small handful of “meh” games in there, but the vast majority of his games are unbelievably good!! He amazes me. The guy is unrivaled as far as I’m concerned!

Happy to share this stuff with the world! Glad you’re enjoying 😊

Thanks B7! Yeah it has to be one of the easiest rulesets I’ve ever seen!! Leave it to Knizia to make a great game out of hardly any rules 😅 The guy is a genius!

Fascinating game for sure! A wonderful little filler from the Good Doctor! :)

@@undiscovered_games love his games

@@Timhotep8724 I have yet to find one I don’t like, honestly.. Some are definitely better than others, but I’m always into his games while playing.

@@undiscovered_games totally agree

@@undiscovered_games I also really like Kramer & Keisling and Andreas Steding

Oh yeah, not for family game night 😂😂 I think those wagons are the single chunkiest game component in my collection. The cathedral pieces from Krieg Und Frieden are a close match, but these take the cake!

That is awesome! I am thrilled so many people felt the emotional ride this game took me on just from watching this episode. I would say if your group plays Container and cube rails games, they would like this game just fine!! Thanks for the comment!!

Thanks for the thoughtful comment! I'm glad that my roller coaster of emotions came through in the video, because that's exactly how I feel playing this game. I, too, have never been _too_ into pickup & deliver games (with the exception of Age of Steam), but I do find this one fascinating in it's own way. I completely agree with you about the procedural round structure. It does make the game way easier to teach, and to remember all the rules! I didn't even think about it, but yeah, Constantinopolis was my last video, and then this one (very similar idea with those turn structure charts & going through the step-by-step). Good call on Hadara! That is a great game I used to own but ended up trading it for some reason. You're making me want to play that one again now haha.

That's awesome! So happy I could provide some motivation to get it played. I've been there so many times. A game will sit on my shelf, and then a video will come out and suddenly I am motivated to get it to the table. Very cool!! I hope you all enjoy it (and hopefully no one punches each other 😂😂).

Epic for sure! They hold the title for chonkiest pieces of any game in my collection.

@undiscovered_games I love it. But...as cool as this game looks, I'm not so sure how it would go over amongst my gamers! Happy you showed it off though!!!

@@eVanDiesel it’s definitely a _very_ group-dependent game that’s for sure!!

Thank you! I actually have that _exact_ video in the works!!! Hopefully in the next few episodes :)

That's so awesome!!! I'm happy my video helped! If you like interactive econ games, I think you will _definitely_ enjoy this. Like I said in the video, though, don't take it too seriously. I feel like the game is almost designed to make people mad... but in a funny way. You'll see what I mean! Let me know how you like it!

I appreciate the kind words! You nailed it with the imperfections of old games. I've noticed that with a lot of these, and yes, lots of those old Wallace games do feel that way. And I love them! Thanks again for watching!

LOL! Well look at the bright side... if you think this channel is bad for a wallet, try being the one discovering them. I figure I purchase approx 10-20 games for every 1 discovery that's worth featuring 🫣😭 I hear ya though... this hobby is such a rabbit hole!! My goal is to hopefully weed out the bad games and focus on the good ones here, and hopefully that helps people make informed purchases. I really hope you enjoy the game! They don't make 'em like this anymore!! Let me know how you like it!

So glad you're enjoying the channel! More episodes are in the works! :) :)

Immediately after i watched your Firenze video i went online and found a copy from someone who lived nearby. These are the types of games i want in my collection.

I know exactly what you mean. It took me like 10 years to get to this point, where I now have a _much_ clearer picture of the games I want to own. It's still a rabbit hole, but it's a much more defined and organized rabbit hole!

Yes, it is _highly_ group dependent and it's great to know your game group!! I think it would be perfect to play this with a group of players who thoroughly understood the game _but_ could also play without overthinking it or taking it too seriously. That's a hard balance to strike, but it would help speed up the pace a little. With our group, 3 out of 4 of us are prone to AP, so the game really dragged for us most of the time. Still, I can recognize that it would be a _ton_ of fun with the right group. I hope you get to try it sometime! It's worth at least one play even if you hate it 🤣🤣

I can't believe I missed this one for so long! This is _exactly_ the type of game I love digging for. And you nailed it: it could be an _amazing_ game with the right group. Even our group had a lot of fun with it, but now 2 of them never want to play again 🤣 All things considered, I really like this game design. It is amusing and always makes me smile, even when I'm being thrown to the wolves by my opponents 🤣 Thanks for watching and commenting as always. I hope you enjoy this one! Just know it can be hit and miss, so if you don't like the first play, give it another go and it could be _completely_ different! Let me know what you think of it!

Actually it just arrived yesterday, that was some quick shipping 🤣 Now just need to get it played! Definitely have to play it with the right group and that might take some time 😹

@@boardgameswithb7 best of luck to you! I really hope you can get it to the table soon, and I hope it’s a smash hit!!! 😎

Thanks for watching as always! This game is awesome if you like auctions. I really do like it overall, but each play can be hit or miss. Just give it another chance if you happen to get a miss on your first play. It's just a slog sometimes with all the negotiations, and if players have bad AP. Most importantly, do *not* get behind early! I really want to play Intrigue. It's been on my list for a lonnnng time!!

Undiscovered turd, that's funny! 🤣

UG needs to do a top 5 Undiscovered Turds list just for laughs!

Whoa, I love this idea.... I have tried _so_ many games that don't make it to my KZbin. I sometimes feature them over on my Instagram, but then there are others that aren't even worth covering. I'm going to think about this for awhile. I'll definitely give you guys a shoutout if I make that episode!!

@@undiscovered_games That would rule.

Lol this is an amazing idea. Please make this! 😂