4S Twin Motor AtomRC Dolphin Build
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@arthurgiourdjian9071
@arthurgiourdjian9071 4 сағат бұрын
Would you recommend someone building and flying this if they're just getting into wings? I'm coming from FPV drones so most of the parts I'm familiar with, just not the "wing" version of the FC and INAV? Thanks!
@danjensen9425
@danjensen9425 4 сағат бұрын
I’m flying HDZero, have a dji v2 and 03 but haven’t used it yet, so just to be clear break ground connection with switch and good to go. I’ve been using an external cellphone battery. A switch is the way to go. I have a dolphin in the box. Two t motor pro 90s low kv ones. Don’t have a 3D printer so I guess find someone on eBay and send all the info to print everything or ? Great flights great information.
@tubamanandy2
@tubamanandy2 Күн бұрын
Think I would have preferred to land on that small strip of grass to your right as you came in rather than the road :)
@barryb.k.t4010
@barryb.k.t4010 Күн бұрын
Is there limits on how high in Altitude you can go with this model ?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis Күн бұрын
Legal altitude limits, yes! Every country is different and has their own laws. But I think you could get to 30,000 feet up and still have video signal as long as you stayed close to your launch location. Video signal would be very week and it would take a whole battery pack to do it. Your limit is battery life and video signal distance which is about 6 miles (31,680 feet) for DJI 03 Air Unit.
@barryb.k.t4010
@barryb.k.t4010 Күн бұрын
@@JeffDoesThis wow I was just curious but that’s incredible. Let see some high Altitude flat Spins !
@WindjumbieFPV
@WindjumbieFPV Күн бұрын
Love that build
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis Күн бұрын
Than you!
@beefybeef1326
@beefybeef1326 Күн бұрын
That is a lovely looking Dolphin ❤
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis Күн бұрын
Thanks. If you could see the wiring mess inside, you might think otherwise.
@JDDupuy
@JDDupuy 2 күн бұрын
Enjoyed that video!
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis Күн бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@Dan-pi6dx
@Dan-pi6dx 2 күн бұрын
how much real world performance optimization do you think you could make by minmaxxing the profile of all the 3dprinted stuff and stuff that is boking out (under the motor mounts, removing skids different o3 setup, carbon less angled horizontal stabs) like rotor flex style
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 2 күн бұрын
I don't know? I really enjoy printing all these parts and making stuff for these planes. The top speed battle was fun but it got old quick. I need my planes to be durable and can take abuse plus I street land my planes all the time. I fly in town, parking lots and all kinds of crazy places. I think all the aero stuff would only be worth 10-15 mph extra.
@chainbenwa2713
@chainbenwa2713 2 күн бұрын
All twins fly amazing lol once you go twin engine it spoils you. BUT you sacrifice either efficiency or the weight/glide ratio becomes a problem for landing in smaller areas. That being said twins are amazing and I’ll never enjoy a single engine like a good ole twin.
@SavageGoodsT
@SavageGoodsT 3 күн бұрын
Great dolphin build! Is there anything else that can be done to improve dolphin performance? I have the single motor pusher but using some of the 3d printed parts still. I have same battery but it is in the front bay (haven't tested this but the cg might be off)
@Sebas-lk3jv
@Sebas-lk3jv 4 күн бұрын
btw what audio recorder you have onboard ?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 4 күн бұрын
This is it - amzn.to/3Xx6F7u
@PopGheorghe
@PopGheorghe 4 күн бұрын
Why a 6s motor powered by 4s and not 6s?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 4 күн бұрын
This motor is not a 6s only motor as you can see in the video. It works great on 4s too. Most of my batteries i have are 4s1p li-ion.
@PopGheorghe
@PopGheorghe 4 күн бұрын
@@JeffDoesThis I watched your clip and was thinking of trying something similar. Based on the numbers, that motor pulls around 980g of thrust on 6S-50%, but on 4S it would likely pull closer to 500g. So, if you’re using two motors on 4S, you’d be getting around 1000g of thrust-similar to what you get with just one motor on 6S! Sorry if my math was confusing, but that was the thought process I had while thinking of applying it to my dolphin.
@ebikefe
@ebikefe 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for video. Does this version of the nacelle / motor mount also require washers or the thrust angle is now set correctly?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 4 күн бұрын
It does not require any washers. Thrust angle is correct.
@squirrelynutz1
@squirrelynutz1 4 күн бұрын
Jeff can I send you a high C lipo so you can push that thing. LiIon isn't up to SPEED 😊
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 4 күн бұрын
I have one, and it's a 6s. I used it to test top speed on my 6s twin dolphin, check it on it's on my channel. But again, I've been there done that. I'm enjoying a well-rounded plane.
@literally_not_kevin
@literally_not_kevin 4 күн бұрын
Hi Jeff, are you still using the 3d printed scimitar from OlivierFPV? Looking to start that build soon.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 4 күн бұрын
I haven't in a while, but it's a super fun plane. You won't be disappointed.
@literally_not_kevin
@literally_not_kevin 4 күн бұрын
@@JeffDoesThis cool, good to hear. btw, he's come out with both a version 2/mini variants.
@edgardoemralino1136
@edgardoemralino1136 4 күн бұрын
Very nice, i see you dont have the motor in the back anymore as weight. So did you just mount the battery in the back compartment and the front compartment dont have a battery?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 4 күн бұрын
I got a whole build video on it, check it out.
@barryb.k.t4010
@barryb.k.t4010 5 күн бұрын
How do you get all the osd in your goggles? What are your settings. I have the v2s and don’t have any of that . Great content I learn a ton from your stuff
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 4 күн бұрын
you cannot record your osd with the v2 goggles. You need goggles 2 or 3. I also have made a graphic overlay for mine.
@capitancairlblandford5785
@capitancairlblandford5785 7 күн бұрын
What’s the battery 🪫 range (How many mins flight) for 21700 4S1P
@capitancairlblandford5785
@capitancairlblandford5785 7 күн бұрын
Im interested in buying. If there is only two servos. Is it only for aileron? How many control surfaces it has? Elevator? Rudder?
@noobsfpv1436
@noobsfpv1436 7 күн бұрын
And if you make the rear engine turn backwards. You'd have one more engine to push
@calvinhenshaw2147
@calvinhenshaw2147 8 күн бұрын
did you think about rotating the back motor ????? that would help with the rotation and help thrust in forward flight. ??????
@rickward5796
@rickward5796 4 күн бұрын
That would require facing the rotor disk downward in hover and rotate to rearward for forward flight. It also means it has to raise up a good bit to not hit the ground. I am looking at how to do that very thing on an all printed plane.
@calvinhenshaw2147
@calvinhenshaw2147 8 күн бұрын
strange you came up in my youtube been banging my head how to 3d print plane in parts and chop them up and so forth.
@calvinhenshaw2147
@calvinhenshaw2147 8 күн бұрын
put a camera on the back to see if it is spinning
@calvinhenshaw2147
@calvinhenshaw2147 8 күн бұрын
lock the back motor manually and toss start a forward flight.
@mlorand6968
@mlorand6968 8 күн бұрын
The "fimi manta" drone has a small angle deviation from the vertical at the rear rotor. I guess the constructors there also encountered this problem and solved it this way.
@mlentsch
@mlentsch 8 күн бұрын
Don't you know not to order that kind of stuff off of Amazon??
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 8 күн бұрын
What are you referring to?
@mlentsch
@mlentsch 8 күн бұрын
@@JeffDoesThis Anything like motors, esc, fc, etc.
@_North
@_North 2 сағат бұрын
@@mlentschwhy
@torquedude
@torquedude 8 күн бұрын
Jeff, great video dude. Is it possible that the yaw is being caused by an esc calibration mismatch? I’m thinking that the yaw looks quite potent and the right hand motor is possibly at a higher rpm than the left ( differential thrust effect ). Just a thought but maybe worth checking out…..Rotorflex👍
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 8 күн бұрын
It would still pull left at 0% throttle while gliding down.
@nickalfonso8616
@nickalfonso8616 9 күн бұрын
You said near the end PLA isn't UV stable that just means the UV will break down the plastic and it will discolor and become brittle over time not that it'll melt. PLA isn't heat resistant though so if its hot out the plastic may soften and deform but that has little to do with UV light
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 8 күн бұрын
Great point
@ericevans6080
@ericevans6080 9 күн бұрын
Excellent mods. What are you using to display the speed in your goggles? Any idea if they have something similar for altitude and speed?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 8 күн бұрын
I don't show my altitude on my video anymore. I'm not trying to get harassed by the Trolls. As far as my OSD, it's just a graphic overlay I designed in Adobe Illustrater.
@ericevans6080
@ericevans6080 5 күн бұрын
@@JeffDoesThis Bummer. We are looking for a FPV solution that shows the current speed and altitude in the goggles.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 5 күн бұрын
You can do that with this setup. I have many features turned off such as altitude, but you can enable tons of other elements and change units of measurement such as KPH or MPH as an example.
@pilwar
@pilwar 9 күн бұрын
Try swap esc and motors, and calibrate the esc, I hope that help
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
Tried that.
@nickvledder
@nickvledder 9 күн бұрын
I would definitely land it LOS and in the (soft) grass next to the road.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
I suck at flying LOS. I have only been flying planes for 2 years and all of it has been FPV.
@AnandNL
@AnandNL 9 күн бұрын
in the setup video i didn't see the third motor in FW mode with the negative value to disable it?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
That's done through INAV. It get disabled when switching profiles from VTOL to Forward Flight
@patricehonvault2612
@patricehonvault2612 9 күн бұрын
folding propeller like on dji drones ? for the rear motor.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
That could work but Heewing does use it on their T1 or T2 and it flies great.
@Finnv893
@Finnv893 8 күн бұрын
How would you stop the props from sliding on their bushings to the wind or other forces? How do you stop the lateral shakes when they get spun out again?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 8 күн бұрын
You stop the propeller from freewheeling by enabling the ESC Brake function. Depending on the brand/model of the esc and motor, the brake force or holding force that keeps the propeller from spinning can be weak or strong. I'm my case, i believe it was very weak and not effective.
@patricehonvault2612
@patricehonvault2612 7 күн бұрын
@@Finnv893 In the relative wind linked to the advancement of the model, the propellers will feather, in the direction of the wind, if the rear engine is stopped. It is necessary to turn the engine so that the propellers deploy. Similarly when turning, the propellers will shift in the direction of the turn but they will not start rotating.
@Finnv893
@Finnv893 7 күн бұрын
@@patricehonvault2612 Sounds like what I just said?
@amp86400
@amp86400 10 күн бұрын
What about putting the rear motor on a servo? After transition, the servo brings that motor into a traditional orientation rather than the upright VTOL position. Enable VTOL mode and back to upright. Maybe?
@amp86400
@amp86400 10 күн бұрын
Or use folding props?
@DugDiamond1
@DugDiamond1 9 күн бұрын
This is exactly what I was going to suggest
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
That makes sense but they don't do that on the Heewing T1 or T2 vtol.
@amp86400
@amp86400 9 күн бұрын
@@JeffDoesThis @JeffDoesThis @JeffDoesThis no but the aerodynamics might just be strange. Not to mention the difficulties most people have had with getting the T1 VTOL flying well. Tuning INAV for VTOL doesn't seem so strait forward as I think we'd expect. And it may very well come down to the FC. I think the simplest way to see if it's the aero is trying folding props. Maybe reach out to GizFPV or Painless 360? They've both done pretty extensive INAV VTOL builds. Or RC Testflight at THINK FLIGHT.
@rparts1
@rparts1 10 күн бұрын
Do you have the motors inward or outward torque
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 10 күн бұрын
No dead straight, checked it with a laser.
@rparts1
@rparts1 9 күн бұрын
@@JeffDoesThis i mean are the props spinning inward or outward...and the rear prop
@pilwar
@pilwar 9 күн бұрын
He mean counterwiser or not
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
Front motors spin inwards and rear spins clockwise.
@sylvainponchelet4188
@sylvainponchelet4188 10 күн бұрын
thanck for the share
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
your welcome
@squirrelynutz1
@squirrelynutz1 10 күн бұрын
Those 50s sag so much. You need the new Molicel p50b. They sag like a lipo.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
That's what is in my Upgrade Energy Red series 4500 4s Li-Ion.
@girenloland
@girenloland 11 күн бұрын
I think your battery is a big bottleneck for your setup. Ive build a few wings. I run one 2808 engine at 50 amps with 4S pack 8X4.5 prop. Ive tried several Li ion battery myself (molicel, sony, samsung). LiPo is a must
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 11 күн бұрын
You're absolutely right. But for this build, I wanted a plane that had good torque and efficiency and long flight times. A 5000 mah lipo battery would weigh a lot more, and then the plane gets sluggish.
@DugDiamond1
@DugDiamond1 11 күн бұрын
what spec is the On/Off rocker-switch, please?
@DugDiamond1
@DugDiamond1 11 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter now - I worked it out myself.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 11 күн бұрын
It's just a simple rocker switch - amzn.to/47ze1fi
@zarnaudov
@zarnaudov 11 күн бұрын
Hi JeffI was worried about you since you hadn't uploaded a video in so long. I expected the third part for VTOL..
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 11 күн бұрын
It's coming. I take a break from KZbin and social media stuff in the summer. I'm too busy boating/ camping and living the life.
@lucianopasqui7791
@lucianopasqui7791 11 күн бұрын
scusa ma per vtlo non finisci con il terso video?
@Sebas-lk3jv
@Sebas-lk3jv 11 күн бұрын
Nice job Jeff. It fly very well.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@rommel-777
@rommel-777 11 күн бұрын
Great flying footage
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 9 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍
@sax4hyr180
@sax4hyr180 12 күн бұрын
Jeff, enjoyed your video- cleaning your bilge bay. How does the water get out when your done? Does it drain or does it need to bilged out?
@sax4hyr180
@sax4hyr180 12 күн бұрын
Jeff, enjoyed your video- cleaning your bilge bay. How does the water get out when your done? Does it drain or does it need to bilged out?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 12 күн бұрын
It drains into the bilge area and then out the drain plug.
@stevietee10
@stevietee10 12 күн бұрын
With your two diversity ELRS antennas, why is the orientation the same? you'd be better having them 90deg difference. Thanks for the tips I'll use a couple 🙂
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 12 күн бұрын
Yes that's correct but I doesn't matter for me because my video can only go 7 miles or 11km at max. With that distance i could mount them anyway I like I wont matter. But if I am going for a 30 miles flight then sure it will help.
@ericwright7570
@ericwright7570 14 күн бұрын
Great video! I can't wait to dry this on my ZOHD Alpha Strike. Have you tried adding more strips? Just curious how that works.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 12 күн бұрын
You just have to solder them on and your good.
@lucianopasqui7791
@lucianopasqui7791 14 күн бұрын
un paio di domande a quando il 3 video la seconda il motore posteriore non gira
@jayd1008
@jayd1008 14 күн бұрын
do you still do this every year ?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 12 күн бұрын
I did except this year I got an indoor storage unit I keep in all year long. But if I didn't you bet your butt i would do it. No dust or animals getting in there
@Goldcountrymarine
@Goldcountrymarine 16 күн бұрын
Freaking awesome! Thank you so much for making this video. I could not find that port to save my life! Much appreciated.
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 12 күн бұрын
Glad I could help!