Wondering what state you live in as interested in live coaching. Thanks!
@sarinhighwind5 күн бұрын
@@johnhall1232 middle Tennessee
@NickCarroll5 күн бұрын
Great video! It seems to me cues have value for fixing things, but they have to be the right ones for the specific problems that need to be fixed. If the swing is bad, turn the key and pour the coffee, and the half million others out there may not just be unhelpful, but may cause more harm than good.
@NostressZone-x3d6 күн бұрын
Turn the key always seemed to me, like twisting your wrist and elbow during the swing is a bad idea. Ouch!
@sarinhighwind6 күн бұрын
@@NostressZone-x3d thats what i was feeling trying it
@timothy42b6 күн бұрын
That wrist-on-plane drill looks like what Blake T was trying to do with Hammer Pound. Maybe anyway.
@sarinhighwind6 күн бұрын
@@timothy42b dont know. I never knew the blake stuff Before my time
@chodeus1436 күн бұрын
This is actually what I think my problem is. I've focused so much on keeping my elbow out I believe my reachback has been too high and been wondering why I'm throwing so nose up lately. Great advice! Will use in my next fieldwork sesh
@NickCarroll5 күн бұрын
Yeah I realize I had a mobility issue when trying to have an arm slot that was too high. The throwing shoulder would elevate, and that would mess up other elements of my swing. Turns out for me the disc needs to be about sternum height or the should will elevate unintentionally.
@nicolaiberg65798 күн бұрын
Incredibly helpfull video. I have been having problems with my nose angle lately, and I noticed that my reachback had become really high for some reason. This video got me back in the right direction.
@sarinhighwind8 күн бұрын
It's a lot of nerdy info, so I hope some of it helps.
@nicolaiberg65798 күн бұрын
@@sarinhighwind It can never get too nerdy for me. I love this kind of stuff!
@dgspindoctor8 күн бұрын
Well said!
@sarinhighwind8 күн бұрын
Thanks, it was a mouth full but there is just a lot to talk about.
@Ishiisan12 күн бұрын
I've seen pros warming up with badminton racquet maybe related to the point you were making at the beginning? 🤔
@sarinhighwind12 күн бұрын
@Ishiisan yes. A lot warm up with a racket now thanks to seth.
@OkieTradez13 күн бұрын
i also agree the pinky helps get the nose down HOWEVER someone like Drew Gibson doesnt even use his pink and he clearly throws nose down too
@sarinhighwind13 күн бұрын
@OkieTradez drew throws power fan. Unless he changed. Ive not played with him since like 2019.
@OkieTradez13 күн бұрын
Will Schusterick talks about not using pointer finger pressure as well
@sarinhighwind13 күн бұрын
@@OkieTradez back loaded grip. Dg spin doctor talks about it
@OkieTradez13 күн бұрын
i found a hack to get the nose down.. simply power grip the disc WITHOUT YOUR THUMB so yes the disc must sit on your fingers in such a way and on your palm that without the need of thumb pressure it sits there NOSE DOWN and its comfortable.. once you get that you only then put thumb pressure on the disc and notice now how when you put your thumb on the disc now its almost as if there is no thumb pressure or at minimum you really cant feel it and im convinced people are pressing down with their thumbs which makes the disc nose up ironically!
@sarinhighwind13 күн бұрын
@@OkieTradez if you press with your thumb wrong you will naturally pronate at the hit vs your wrist articulating on the plane of play
@OkieTradez13 күн бұрын
@@sarinhighwind the hack i speak of makes it impossible to press wrong at least for me it did
@juliareinhardt5890Ай бұрын
My favorite part was the magically appearing plyers at 6:55
@pawn999SeanАй бұрын
Good Content, I liked what you said about not practicing fatigued...
@sarinhighwindАй бұрын
That's a huge one. you can put in 100 good putts, then 200 fatigued putts and ruin that 100 good putts of work you put in.
@Truckin_N_ChuckinАй бұрын
Very cool big basket! Putting through the basket was the key for me most definitely!
@sarinhighwindАй бұрын
Our brains are really really good at calculating things, especially from that distance. So if you tell it "to" the basket, your brain calculates the energy needed to get it to the ground at the basket. This is why so many people struggle with putting, they fighting trying to push the disc harder than their target place of "the basket" Well, just change the target to passed the basket, finish the arc needed, tell it that calculation. Easy peezy. Just gotta work on your left and right then and putting is suddenly not quite so hard.
@captiandicknozzlesintergal4211Ай бұрын
I would say first ... but I'm going with ONLY!
@sarinhighwindАй бұрын
Second! Haha😊
@clawshooter58672 ай бұрын
Ya i dont know about this one
@larryvaughn3272 ай бұрын
Many coaches say to not allow your wrist to articulate as and show videos of pros releasing with no flexion in the wrist. Too many conflicting theories 😩
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
You wanna keep it in during the main part of the swing. When you get to the hit your wrist will naturally pop. So if youre out of alignment, it will not go well. Philo talks about it in a video.
@chadrobinson72342 ай бұрын
Seems legit. DG Spin Doctor likes it too. Guess I'll be stopping off at Goodwill tomorrow after work. Subscribed.
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
I wish i could give such a great monotone delivery like him
@4dwyn2 ай бұрын
The humor in this video deserves a sub
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@TheBerryTV2 ай бұрын
Too many youtubers seem like theyre trying to make their video for a corporate presentation. Love the humor!
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
Thanks. This should be fun. Not humm drumm
@mrmagilla732 ай бұрын
Wapow!
@kennetsrensen16642 ай бұрын
Hi bud. Glad to see you're uploading more frequently. Being an old badminton player, it's insane that I haven't used my old rackets for this purpose. Gotta try it out. I know there's plenty of videos out there on the subject, but a grip video would be awesome! Still haven't found one I find comfortable. Footwork, posture, swingplane, not over rotating etc, are all subjects you could cover (if you haven't already).
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
I got a grip video to do still. Wanna make sure its right first. Still testing some stuff
@leopard31312 ай бұрын
Outstanding explanation worth the tangents.
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
Haha. Thanks.
@dgspindoctor2 ай бұрын
Great points! But man, there is a reason why you should always WRAP the towel around your hand! :)
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
It was funny, I left it in.
@yoyoninjaboy64312 ай бұрын
i find t shirts to be about the right size to spin up and fold so that there's a little ball of weight almost a flail at the end so that you can actually throw the head around. Responds much more disc like and rewards good practices like keeping the hand on the outside as long as possible for big snap. WARNING doing this too much too hard will hurt a little eventually listen to your body and chill tf out. Find slow good leverage.
@eoghana3152 ай бұрын
The hand is leading the disc so it is a pulling motion no matter how semantic you get. Could pull be too vague a descriptor by itself? Absolutely. But it is definitively a pull, not a push motion. A leverage driven pull, a centrifugal pull but a pull nonetheless. I agree with your video but saying it's not a pull is muddying the waters more, not less.
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
The push is after the pocket. And pull/drag whatever you want is a result of other actions, not the actual driven action and that's the part that is hard to stress. Active action vs a passive action sorta thing. The "pull" part is a passive result of driving the disc with the body before we sling the disc out essentially. But yeah, the problem with pull is people get to focused on pulling with the arm, vs the body. And that's more of the point I was trying to make. It's difficult to do stuff like this without getting waaay lost in the weeds and trying to keep it short and get most of the point across.
@eoghana3152 ай бұрын
I know what you're saying but that is not a push action. It's still a pull, similar to how a trebuchet works. A catapult is more of a push. Out of the pocket the hand is still leading the disc but you're drastically changing the direction of the pull. To put it another way, if a steam engine does a 180° turn it doesn't suddenly start pushing the cars behind it, it's still pulling.
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
You push out from the chest. You dont pull out from the chest. If you pull from the power pocket, you're going to round.... For the elbow to hinge outwards and your arm to straighten, you push our swing out. This is why the "pull" terminology gets people in trouble. You're stuck trying to defend poor terms because you like it vs breaking down the mechanics deeper to the root parts of it. And while I love Trebuchets, they are superior to catapults. ... They dont have an elbow to swing out. They are a solid arm.
@woodykuon2 ай бұрын
I’ve got to say, I 1,000,000% agree with EOGHANA! I think that videos that tell people not to pull actually confuses people more. I have a friend who listened to these videos and kept telling me to not pull, and that he shouldn’t pull and I think this really hurt his progress. I believe there is a late pool, and you shouldn’t pull too early or you will throw your rhythm off. There really is no push action at all in a backhand drive.
@MrSTAYUP332 ай бұрын
this channel should be called, 'miserable middle aged dude disc golf'
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
haha, that's fantastic.
@Rydal12 ай бұрын
how do. ifix disc oreientation
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
I don't follow your question.
@NickCarroll2 ай бұрын
It amazes me how many people learned to throw correctly, despite bad language. Bad descriptors really did a number on my when I first started learning how to throw, and it's been an uphill battle ever since to correct my form.
@brianc16512 ай бұрын
Until last week, I was swinging the disc out wide. I sort of knew that I was doing something wrong and not getting into the power pocket. Finally realized I was "reaching back" and I was uncurling my wrist because I was extending too far.
@HerrmDogg2 ай бұрын
Subscribed! How do I get in touch about coaching?
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
Most of what i do is one on one in person lessons. But you can message me on insta at tnsheepshearing
@dgspindoctor2 ай бұрын
Spot on!
@sarinhighwind2 ай бұрын
Thanks. Its a tough subject with out getting caught in the weeds
@guyincognito.2 ай бұрын
When i discovered 'pushing' the disc out instead of pulling, suddenly it felt almost like a superpower; I was sending discs 30 to 40% farther with less effort. I started getting an audible snap when the disc released and it would land with a ton of spin still on it. It's really a key move in proper throwing technique. It feels quite unnatural at first because it's such a counter-intuitive way to throw.
@GolfInHawaii693 ай бұрын
I found a lab second volt in a creek that was unmarked and looks to be brand new. I love it for a straight shooter with a reliable fade at the end. One of my top fairways 🤙.
@raidergreen79293 ай бұрын
Terrible video. First 8 minutes said nothing other than what the other guy said with the pinky. And your suggestion is "keep playing with your grip". Useless. And waay to repetitive. Repetitive. And yeah, turn the key is a que, so 12 minutes in you agree with turning the key. 20 minutes and you said nothing new.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
A response with such intelligence. Ill have to go get a new degree to even comprehend what you said...
@TheGiraffehead3 ай бұрын
dumb
@timothy42b3 ай бұрын
Kudos for the tape on the floor. That's rare but extremely helpful.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
Ill do a video on reference practice at some point and it will make more sense.
@ajazsyed32633 ай бұрын
seabas22 introduced the one leg drill to disc golf. Loopghost references it a lot as well. It comes from ball golf Shawn Clement does a bunch of it.
@mortenhalkjrjacobsen36213 ай бұрын
I just recently got in to turning the key, I started anhyzing, throwing all weird ways, so I went back to the old swing. Your pinky controls the disc is awesome, combined with the hands follow-through and keeping the plane. That could be a gamechanger for me. Thanks man. Oh and as you replied to another dude, please make a breakdown on the Dan Beto drill
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
Presentation makes a huge difference on understanding. I'm glad you like the more... wordy explanation I provide.
@nyqpi333 ай бұрын
What is the beto drill you referenced near the end?
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
You throw from the power pocket. But the videos dan did on it dont really explain how to do it well without muscling. Ill probably do a video breaking it down more soon. Its a good drill that is over looked a lot
@OkieTradez13 күн бұрын
Dan Beto Right Pec Drill 2.0 it helps you to find the whip action
@jerkwagon3 ай бұрын
pour the coffee is from the perspective of servers minimizing their reach and intrusion
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
That makes sense, but it's still a bad reference. That's the joke. I mean, you understood that's a joke right?
@jerkwagon3 ай бұрын
not only was it a joke, but it was good one! i laughed at it pretty hard, well done!@@sarinhighwind
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
@@jerkwagon oh good. Wasnt sure based on the comment. Haha
@twofifty63 ай бұрын
This is great. I just wanted to punctuate one of the points you made here as I just lived through it and you’re 100% correct. I just got a TechDisc. After 4 years of filming myself, the TechDisc confirmed that I’m still throwing nose up. Every throw. 100 throws and I tried grip changes, pouring/turning/etc. All still nose up. On day 2 I finally realized that my hit point was way late (around 12). If I over exaggerate and try to hit at 8 or 9, it comes out around 10. Finally, I can make changes to get my nose down. So I can confirm your point. Since another element of my form was incorrect, no amount of pouring coffee, flipping discs, turning keys would help. Fixing my hit point allowed me to fix my nose angle! Still much work to do, but it definitely all has to be in harmony or it simply isn’t going to work.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
Exactly, because the point at which the disc comes out of your hand is just as critical as everything because posture influences so much. So if your rounding passed the hit point, when that disc rotates out of your hand, its most likely going to be nose up. Hand alignment with target, blah blah blah. There is just SO many things vs just pouring coffee and turning keys. There are people who do NONE of these things and just naturally throw with good nose angles the first day. I've had new players come to the course and they just automagically throw nose down. No fancy tricks or key turns, they just naturally throw nose down. Curse them. I've tried some other grips over the years, and thrown nose down with them, tried to do it the next day and couldn't do it. I'm still messing with my grip to try and get a consistent controlled release where I know I am finally in control and its less fate based and more me based.
@twofifty63 ай бұрын
@@sarinhighwind Definitely curse those folks that never had to struggle! 😝 But your point about ducks in a row and randomly throwing in squirrels is applicable not only to grip, but to the entire swing. The TechDisc is a magical device. I am now fixing my hit point, which automatically fixes my nose angle. Get in a row, ducks! And get out of here, squirrel!
@Nolast125033 ай бұрын
Have you seen PETE Ulibarri's video on gyroscopic precession?
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
I understand the concepts he's talking about. The problem when we break it down with what he's doing is were seeing 1 piece of a really large puzzle. And to make any firm statements on those things, we need to do more research to gather data. He doesn't live close to me, otherwise I'd invite him over to shoot high speed and we could look into it better to make more firm statements vs theoretical statements.
@NickCarroll3 ай бұрын
I love all the extra information you put in this video - really clarifies things for me. One thing I'd like to stress for others, if you get caught up in cues like "turn the key" and you have bad form elements in your throw, you run the risk of not seeing any (or very little) benefits of that cue. And at least in my experience trying to focus too much on that cue, it wrecks my form even more. And it's not great in the first place. Not saying it's bad, but other things like grip, swing plane, and follow through have to be good before you start messing with it. Just my two cents. Not from a form expert - but a victim of bad form advice and bad language.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Just nobody was talking about all the other important things, all they were talking about was how great the magic pill was.
@TylerMiami3 ай бұрын
Lot of dribble here. Hard to follow and see an articulate point. Just couldn't get through it.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
Cool story.
@JasonAllmen3 ай бұрын
I thought it was good to follow, not everything needs to be scripted, going to try to do some new things with this weeks field work! Nice video
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
@JasonAllmen thanks. Its hard to keep videos short but provide all relevant detail. And while other creators make good videos they are trying to keep them short so they miss this stuff. But its more my thing. So ill do it.
@mikaelschloenzig95902 ай бұрын
Interesting,but oh so long ,5 min max and go for the core ,lost in words before you can get what is of value on the subject ( and maybe missing the real point).Keep up the good work (like it) but maybe shorter?
@yoyoninjaboy64313 ай бұрын
This is an important video. Turn the key always felt like I was turning my hand away from being able to hold on to the disc due to it's inertia or (if I managed to hang on) imparting annhyzer OAT like you demonstrated. I don't throw nose up but you gave me some inspiration on some micro movements to perhaps achieve that magical -2~-4 so I can throw higher and still get that good ride without needing to rely on the unpredictable nature of understable to flip the nose down into the apex. Cheers.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
When we get into a lot of this stuff, its nuanced and technical. The goal is to try and keep it simple, but its also important to have a certain level of understanding of WHAT your doing and WHY. And I see a lot of people explaining to do it, but not what you're actually achieving, or any other important things.
@yoyoninjaboy64313 ай бұрын
@@sarinhighwindEverything is really really hard until it isn't. Then it's hard to fathom what made it hard in the first place.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
I think we want it to be complicated to justify the effort we put into it. And it's really not overly complicated. It's important to break it down to simple things and teach those without getting to into gimmicks.
@yoyoninjaboy64313 ай бұрын
@@sarinhighwind I was more so commenting on the nature of muscle memory. But yes it is very much a cope to think that it is a problem you can solve primarily with your mind.