It amazes me how many people learned to throw correctly, despite bad language. Bad descriptors really did a number on my when I first started learning how to throw, and it's been an uphill battle ever since to correct my form.
@dgspindoctor3 ай бұрын
Spot on!
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Its a tough subject with out getting caught in the weeds
@guyincognito.3 ай бұрын
When i discovered 'pushing' the disc out instead of pulling, suddenly it felt almost like a superpower; I was sending discs 30 to 40% farther with less effort. I started getting an audible snap when the disc released and it would land with a ton of spin still on it. It's really a key move in proper throwing technique. It feels quite unnatural at first because it's such a counter-intuitive way to throw.
@brianc16513 ай бұрын
Until last week, I was swinging the disc out wide. I sort of knew that I was doing something wrong and not getting into the power pocket. Finally realized I was "reaching back" and I was uncurling my wrist because I was extending too far.
@eoghana3153 ай бұрын
The hand is leading the disc so it is a pulling motion no matter how semantic you get. Could pull be too vague a descriptor by itself? Absolutely. But it is definitively a pull, not a push motion. A leverage driven pull, a centrifugal pull but a pull nonetheless. I agree with your video but saying it's not a pull is muddying the waters more, not less.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
The push is after the pocket. And pull/drag whatever you want is a result of other actions, not the actual driven action and that's the part that is hard to stress. Active action vs a passive action sorta thing. The "pull" part is a passive result of driving the disc with the body before we sling the disc out essentially. But yeah, the problem with pull is people get to focused on pulling with the arm, vs the body. And that's more of the point I was trying to make. It's difficult to do stuff like this without getting waaay lost in the weeds and trying to keep it short and get most of the point across.
@eoghana3153 ай бұрын
I know what you're saying but that is not a push action. It's still a pull, similar to how a trebuchet works. A catapult is more of a push. Out of the pocket the hand is still leading the disc but you're drastically changing the direction of the pull. To put it another way, if a steam engine does a 180° turn it doesn't suddenly start pushing the cars behind it, it's still pulling.
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
You push out from the chest. You dont pull out from the chest. If you pull from the power pocket, you're going to round.... For the elbow to hinge outwards and your arm to straighten, you push our swing out. This is why the "pull" terminology gets people in trouble. You're stuck trying to defend poor terms because you like it vs breaking down the mechanics deeper to the root parts of it. And while I love Trebuchets, they are superior to catapults. ... They dont have an elbow to swing out. They are a solid arm.
@woodykuon3 ай бұрын
I’ve got to say, I 1,000,000% agree with EOGHANA! I think that videos that tell people not to pull actually confuses people more. I have a friend who listened to these videos and kept telling me to not pull, and that he shouldn’t pull and I think this really hurt his progress. I believe there is a late pool, and you shouldn’t pull too early or you will throw your rhythm off. There really is no push action at all in a backhand drive.
@HerrmDogg3 ай бұрын
Subscribed! How do I get in touch about coaching?
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
Most of what i do is one on one in person lessons. But you can message me on insta at tnsheepshearing
@Rydal13 ай бұрын
how do. ifix disc oreientation
@sarinhighwind3 ай бұрын
I don't follow your question.
@MrSTAYUP333 ай бұрын
this channel should be called, 'miserable middle aged dude disc golf'