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@harambeshotfurst1122 21 күн бұрын
Is this the same for a manual aswell?
@timothycarey4629 Ай бұрын
It doesn’t cause a 2nd to 3rd shift problem I’m thinking about using just the cover on my build don’t like the tight fit
@philosopher0076 Ай бұрын
Hi Stephen, I've been two weeks without my 98 Ram 1500 4x4 quad cab 5.2 liter due to a mouse or squirrel having eaten a hole in my fuel rail crossover hose. Mechanic said I need to get a whole new rail and hose since the hose is specially heat shrunk at the factory as it's a pressurized fuel system. He couldn't find a rail from anywhere, junkyards, Dodge dealership, nowhere. Told me I had to find one myself. Took me 5 days to get one off ebay and sand and paint it. Took an uber to the mechanic, gave it to him and he noticed one port slightly bent. He said it might be an issue, up to me whether to go forward with it or not. I said do it...risking double charge if he had to do it again. Well, he called two days later and said due to the bent port, that injector isn't seating straight and is leaking gas. So I found a junkyard myself, another couple ubers, brought it home after the yard guy removed it and took it to a back room and popped the injectors out. So....I get it home. It was dripping with gas and I looked at the ports. They are luckily perfectly straight, all 8 of them. So I noticed there were still 3 rubber o-rings still in three of the ports. I got a small flathead screwdriver and lifted each one out. Then I turned the rail over onto a towel on my floor, port sides DOWN to get any little bit of gas out. I then lifted it up to look at how much gas got on the towel, and I saw two super small, 10 mm copper crush washers sitting side by side. Obviously one came from a port and the other from the port next to it. They were both laying flat on the towel, equally spaced. So I figured the other six copper washers must have popped out with the rubber o-rings at the yard when the guy was popping the injectors out. So, it seems these copper tiny crush/sealing washers must have been UNDER the donut rubber o-rings that were in each port because I took the rubber rings out first. Hmmm. So I went to Napa, another Uber ( $$$$) and bought rubber o-rings that apparently as the guy told me, get stuffed into the fuel rail before the injectors go in ( BTW Do the injectors also have another slightly larger rubber O-ring gasket ON the injector itself? ) I asked him about the copper crush washers and he said, " Hmmm, they must be the metal washers that go maybe on the end of the injectors before you insert them into the ports." BUT...this seems wrong because as I said I tipped the rail over and two of these tiny copper crush sealing washers fell out of two ports AFTER the rubber rings were already removed. So it seems they must have been at the bottom of each port with the small rubber o-rings on top of them. I also noticed the copper crush washers have a flat side and the other side is more concave and rounded off. Can you tell me where the copper washers actually go and in relation to the rubber o-rings....and if there are also other slightly larger sized rubber O-rings on the injectors tip? Thanks man. I appreciate any info Steve. A damn tiny hole in a 5 dollar rubber hose from a mouse has up till now cost me $1,150.00 in two fuel rails bought, repairs so far and a ton of Uber rides to work, store, laundry, junkyard, mechanic, Napa, etc. Plus the massive two week inconvenience. I just want it fixed and with no dangerous leaks that could start a fire. I've had this Dodge for 26 years since I bought it new back in 98. Appreciate any info. Thanks again Stephen. Kevin
@stephengoad3091 Ай бұрын
@@philosopher0076hello there, sorry to hear about your troubles. So there shouldn't be any copper crush washers on top of the injectors, Oliver should be is one big rubber o-ring that slips around the top of the injector and that slides very tightly up into the injector rail I usually use Vaseline or WD-40 to assist it back up into the injector rail, what's a tight fit then reinstall the retaining clips. Only thing I can think of is that part of the old injectors that little metal ring remind me to be part of the tops of the old injectors. There shouldn't be any other o-rings in the top part of the injector rail. How there should be is one rubber a ring on top in one rubber o-ring on the bottom and possibly one plastic ring on the bottom. When installing injectors back in the rail and back into the head you will use Vaseline or WD-40 on the o-rings for easier installation. Installing into the head Isabel the hardest get them to seat in properly. You probably could have gone by with a high pressure hose and for hose clamps the first time. The high pressure the mechanic's talking about anywhere from 40 to 60 PSI that's really not a lot of PSI probably been able to use a regular fuel line add that pressure. I'm sorry to hear you had to put that much money and time into a easy fix.
@Trials-and-Tribulations Ай бұрын
Fuel rails for the 5.9v8 5.2v8 and my 2002 dakota 3.9v6 Are discontinued from the dealerships. Try google search for dealership that may have one or them. Heard from a local dealership dodge discontinued alot of parts only maybe two dealership bought up all remaining stock. Aint guaranteed though. Was recommended get another rail from junkyard clean it up repaint it rattle can or if you know someone you have your buddy powercoat it. And buy new fuel pressurized hoses and few clamps, other missing broken pieces. It should work. Person did same thing to his lincoln Ls. Hope it helps👍
@timkahn2813 2 ай бұрын
best i have ever watched . thank you.
@stephengoad3091 2 ай бұрын
@@timkahn2813 you're welcome I'm happy I could help
@anthonylytle2577 2 ай бұрын
Can it handle bending 7/16 metal about 30 degree angle?
@stephengoad3091 2 ай бұрын
@@anthonylytle2577 will the press will definitely, but the little Bender I made would not then something thicker dinner 1/8 inch. So if you bought a professional bending adapter then yes it would handle it, or if you made a heavy duty version of what I had it could possibly. I personally would not want to bend something using the two metal blocks thicker than a quarter inch. Hope this helps
@whiskeyhill1483 2 ай бұрын
Does the bottom port on the valve have its own metal washer? I see it in the opening shot of your video, but not in the actual installation process. AI'm asking because after replacing the valve, I was still getting P0491 so I took it to the local mechanic. They said the new Dorman check valve I put in was inferior, and stuck in the open position. Just yesterday I bought and installed a new OEM valve, but it came with no metal gaskets/washers. I reused the one for the upper port, but the valve I removed (Dorman) had no metal gasket on the lower port. I swore it did when I installed it. Thanks for your time.
@stephengoad3091 2 ай бұрын
@@whiskeyhill1483 yes it will have little metal gasket. Basically they are a crush gasket. You should have two small holes and one big one in the middle. When you remove it usually they fall down onto the ground or on to the metal subframe under the engine that's probably where it went over sometimes they stick to the block. If you continue to get that code I definitely recommend checking or replacing pressure line with the sensor in it and if you still have code sometimes a portion of the manifold where the bottom part of the valve connects to the hole can get clogged up who is carbon and cause insufficient flow code. So to sum up yes it has a little metal gasket it was probably either stuck to the block or it fell off when you took out the bolts and removed it, some of them add little metal tabs that hold it to the valve other ones use the bolts to hold it in position. I hope this helps
@whiskeyhill1483 2 ай бұрын
@stephengoad3091 Thanks. I remember installing two gaskets and was confused when it came back from the mechanic with only the top one. Thankfully, I have one from my original valve. You've been a lifesaver, and I can't thank you enough. I'm definitely a subscriber.
@stephengoad3091 2 ай бұрын
@whiskeyhill1483 thank you very much 4 subscriber
@roiad876 4 ай бұрын
really need an update and new link
@whiskeyhill1483 4 ай бұрын
I'm asking this because I removed the unit by flashlight at night. The next morning I couldn't remember if the bracket mounted on the outside or inside the valve. I believe you are saying it goes on the outside, acting as a washer between the screw and the valve. Can you confirm this? Thanks for the great video.
@stephengoad3091 4 ай бұрын
@@whiskeyhill1483 assume if you're talking about the wiring harness metal bracket on the number one screw and that is correct. You will use the number one short screw start it through the metal bracket then lower the unit down put the screw through the bottom hole of the unit then move it around until it falls into place. I hope this helps and the repair goes well.
@stephengoad3091 4 ай бұрын
@@whiskeyhill1483 yes so the metal bracket will be on the outside of the unit. The screw will go through the metal bracket first then into the unit then tighten up into the block. I hope this helps.
@whiskeyhill1483 4 ай бұрын
@stephengoad3091 Thank you so much for your response. I changed the positioning as you said and am waiting for the check engine light to NOT come back on🙏
@timeless4495 5 ай бұрын
What's available to siphon a little fluid ? Id like to siphon not 🚫 drop pan and add Lucas fix slip thanks
@lilmisery1643 4 ай бұрын
Just use a clean pan that’s never been used before then open the drain and funnel it back into the truck
@elzorromarure4958 5 ай бұрын
Gracias mi chingon
@robkitchen5344 5 ай бұрын
My brake pad clips are on the ends....not in the middle.... again this video is useless for me.....this is 2nd video I watched with same issue....wgat a waste of time
@robkitchen5344 5 ай бұрын
All for of my pads are identical... there forward exterior/interior is Irelaventil
@robertmotion 5 ай бұрын
great information, esp. adding wheels. i just purchased Vevor 6T press (used) on Amazon for > $90. need to push axle out of hub motor ... gonna swap out 6T press for 20T tho ... >$50 a press is that tool u don't know you need ... until u do. /Bklyn👑
@ofcourseimfullofit 6 ай бұрын
My rotors that I ordered for my 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 2nd look different. Are you sure that’s not a 4wd?
@stephengoad3091 6 ай бұрын
@@ofcourseimfullofit absolutely positively the truck I have is a two-wheel drive model if it was the four-wheel drive model the rotor would be like a cars where are the stars attached to the hub and the rotor slips over the lug bolts. So the four wheel drive model will be just somewhat flat disc with holes in it. Does this answer the question ❓
@ofcourseimfullofit 6 ай бұрын
@@stephengoad3091 My 2000 Dodge Ram doesn’t have a center bolt that holds the rotors on. It’s weird that yours does. The two wheel drive the rotor slides over the lugs. You have it backwards. Watch another video of a two wheel drive pad and rotor change.
@MarcusHAWKINS-v6e 7 ай бұрын
Good job brother very professional
@stephengoad3091 7 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍
@MrMazinger69 7 ай бұрын
Gracias patrón 😊
@stephengoad3091 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@juliochingaling5824 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Blessings.
@skannal 7 ай бұрын
You nailed it with your opening statement... yes I'm considering buying one therefore I'm watching this video LOL. Great video with demonstration of it's versatility and how I'd use it most. So now I need to determine if I want to save $100 by getting the 12 ton 🤔
@morgannnnn3020 7 ай бұрын
i bought the 12 ton this morning, at least at checkout the harbor freight cashier told me i can swap up to the 20 ton for cheaper if i need to with the protection plan, i bought the plan it was $26 for 2 years, i think its well worth it
@Broken-Flesh 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial! I have a 1997 1500 and it shudders and vibrates when excelerating to quickly at highway speed, and it shudders real bad accelerating uphill. I hope replacing the injectors solves my issue.
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
Also you might want to check your map sensor and your idle control valve those two things can cause similar symptoms.
@Broken-Flesh 8 ай бұрын
@stephengoad3091 OK, I can look into that once I get the new injectors in. I dont know very much about truck mechanics, so I appreciate your help!
@not12listen 8 ай бұрын
It would be great if consumers were taught how to properly break-in an engine. That would all but negate these oil consumption issues. Sadly, even if taught how to break-in an engine, the amount of people that would follow that process is incredibly small. And then those same consumers would complain about oil consumption issues. It is utterly ridiculous, and until manufacturers & consumers actually get on the same page, this will continue for as long as internal combustion engines exist.
@heru-deshet359 8 ай бұрын
"I pity the full!"
@fahrfromrunnin 8 ай бұрын
The build-up is from a combination of direct injection and oil consumption; all direct injection cars will do this to Some degree. However, VW/Audi has a recall of some of these cars, they would replace the pistons and rings. Pistons have to small an oil port on the bottom oil control ring, and the rings themselves were too loose in an effort to increase efficiency. IIRC, the piston set with rods is about $800 w/o recall. Not certain what cars still fit under the recall.
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
Yeah Audi states to give them your VIN number off the vehicle they will get back to you about if your vehicle is under the recall or not. Which at this time my vehicle is not. Usually what I do is just change out the piston rings for aftermarket ones with the waffle style scraper ring it does help control this condition resume updating the PVC system will help as well or catch can or vent to atmosphere for offering use 😉😉
@Xixu.co.6 8 ай бұрын
Direct injection. Stupidest idea ever. I upgraded to the revised pistons on my 2013. I have about 50k on it now since i did it and it doesn’t burn any oil. I’m still half expecting it to start again at some point, i mean the pistons are an improved design but its still gdi and prone to carbon buildup so how much can you really do to prevent what seems to be the inevitable?
@kurtjammer9568 8 ай бұрын
Shouldnt use any oil between changes.my maserati didnt use any oil at 6k mile oil change
@noahadim 8 ай бұрын
Because Maserati intake valves are 999 sterling silver
@kurtjammer9568 8 ай бұрын
That's all..more like titanium..only the highest quality dodge parts on my car lol..maybe will blow up tmrw
@noahadim 8 ай бұрын
Direct injection?
@cuddlepoo11 8 ай бұрын
We have Hondas and Toyota’s both with over 150k miles and burn/consume zero oil between 6 month/5000 mile oil changes. I bet the insides are totally clean as well. Audi cars? I never even consider them. Ridiculous.
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's like you pay for a high quality car and get Chinese junk. Don't get me wrong a lot of the car is good just if they would fix this oil burning issue and a few other matters on the engine the car will be a great little sports sedan
@devl8565 8 ай бұрын
New GMC's have a tsb stating that it is "within specification" for their engines to burn 1 imperial qt every 2k miles...... cust was complaining about 1 qt every 6k! They were lucky!
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
I think car manufacturers do that just to keep people from bringing their car in before the warranty expires. I like them saying transmission fluid is a lifetime fluid but if you look deeper service manuals say replace every 50,000 to 75,000 miles. Why don't they tell you this they want you to be back in later for a transmission
@sidewayzmike 8 ай бұрын
Ive heard the same consumption acceptability, 1 quart per 1000 miles. Heard it from mercedes shop foreman, as well as a few master bmw technicians. Crazy.
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
Yes this is definitely crazy from companies that are supposed to be high-end high quality names. And also names that say care about going green how is burning that much oil green,,? Toyota in Ford vehicles don't have anything close to this! When will scales like someone wanted you to have to bring your car in on a regular basis to a qualified technician to get this repaired done.
@oceanwaves83 8 ай бұрын
If more people just laughed in their face over this something would change
@MrTheHillfolk 8 ай бұрын
Its like its 1953 again at those consumption rates. I mean does this thing run on gasoline or oil?
@stephengoad3091 7 ай бұрын
@@MrTheHillfolk yeah I definitely think Audi is covering something up because I have to say it appears like they knew something about this when they were selling it now!
@MrTheHillfolk 7 ай бұрын
@@stephengoad3091 Too cheap to correctly fix the problem.
@tommy35ss 8 ай бұрын
This is common on direct injection engines. Many manufacturers went to direct injection, and made a big assumption the intake ports & valves would remain clean despite the lack of fuel making contact with those areas of the engine. What manufacturers are going to (such as Toyota, who has been leading the way), is a combination of port and direct fuel injection. You get the benefits of both with a setup like that, and clean intake ports.
@confederatenationalist7283 8 ай бұрын
How does oil or direct injection affect the inlet ports.The only thing going into the inlet ports is air not oil or fuel or combistion products. Exhaust ports I could understand it if direct injection isnt doing as advertised for clean combustion. Either way no one with any sense is going to shot blast the ports with the head on the engine. So effectively it needs a head off decoke as we called it every 20k miles. On an old school engine that would have been at least 60k miles.If not top end rebuild time new with new valves and seats and guides etc.All much cheaper and easier on a pushrod 2 valves per cylinder motor. The only way to run one of these laughable complicated modern engines and cars is with a main dealer warranty and service plan and for no longer than the shortest PCP/Lease purchase plan possible.These are not viable long term ownership products.
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
All right so this is how oil/carbon gets on the backside of the valve in a direct injection. Let me first thing that the older models didn't have this problem because they had injectors in the intake blasting fuel over the backside of the intake valves so basically if you would wash any oil or gunk stop back there off. Now since the new ones have the direct injection there's no fuel to wash the intake valves off. Now how does the oil get their here's how your PVC system which is that big black triangle box put it down on top of the valve cover/cam retainer which controls the pressure in the block and bleeds it off back into the intake and reborns it so with that air where is small particles of oil which one is the valve closes and everything comes to a stop play oil is slammed into the wall and sticks there, that's where the oil comes from is your PVC system. The company news is what I've been told play continue to sound vehicles anyway, turn on the new modern engines they've tried to fix this problem quietly by updating the PVC system I'm putting a fuel injector behind the throttle body in the intake on single injector that blasts fuel every little bit to wash any oil build up or carbon out into the cylinders. For this engine what I did to mostly stop close to that was I unplugged play PvC inlet pipe from the intake put a small screen filter on it after extending the tube out underneath the car so it would be in the airstream when I'm driving to help pull the air out of the tube and out from underneath the car, that was my cheap fix so this will be very unlikely to happen again and only 140,000 miles. Now oil still can get into the system through the turbo if you've got a leaking turbo seal, if that's the case look for oil in any of the intake tubes before the throttle body and especially in the intercooler, if it's bad enough leak your inner cooler may have a few inches of oil in it. Sorry for the long drug out message I thought you might want to know what causes it in a possible fix. Now for cleaning play do you want you to bring it in to have it sandblasted but you can always is simpler a chemical method at home you just have to take the intake off turn the engine over my hand so the cylinder you're working on owls are closed then you will basically fill them one by one full of parts cleaner or you can use paint thinner. When you're doing this you want to take the spark plugs out so it's easier to turn, also put the spark plugs out when you are completely done and intake back on and spark plugs out you want to rotate the engine over to make sure none of the cleaner has run down into the cylinders which could hydraulic the cylinder would you recycle it a little bit it should be ready for spark plugs back in and try cranking it. I hope this information was helpful.
@confederatenationalist7283 8 ай бұрын
@@stephengoad3091 Maybe diesel crankcase ventilation designs could provide a solution they would have had the situation of no fuel washing valves and inlet ports for decades ?. But they now seem to be running into EGR systems creating similar problems. I can remember brake vacuum servos and air filters and housings being soaked in oil from old crankcase ventilation systems. Thanks for clarifying the problem. It seems just another reason to trade these modern cars in ( much ) sooner rather than later. But that's obviously eventually going to have a bad knock on effect on residual values.Which will eventually wreck the figures of the trade in quick idea.
@1madmaxx80 8 ай бұрын
I drive a 2010 a5 2.0t. I go through 1l of oil roughly every 3500 miles. Regular oil changes and a new PCV really makes a difference! Audi literally killing themselves with the recommended 10k mile OCIs.
@kurtjammer9568 8 ай бұрын
I was in my maserati levante following a 2.0 smoking .lol.what a piece of garbage..
@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM 8 ай бұрын
I've seen worst, like way worst. I'm an engine shop to be fair lol.
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
I've actually seen worse as well but not on my shop bench and definitely not from a 2010 quote on quote high performance car.
@deletesoon70 8 ай бұрын
GDI, by far the stupidest idea ever.
@1madmaxx80 8 ай бұрын
10k mile OCIs is the stupidest idea ever.
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
Yeah you have to wonder if some of this was planned for repeat customers. To solve some of this issue I unplugged the PVC pipe of my intake and ran it underneath the car and just put a screen filter on the end of it unplugged off the hole we're used to connect to the intake.
@MrTheHillfolk 8 ай бұрын
Yeah gdi sucks for this carbon issue ,but I thought I heard that mazda "fixed" it sonewhat by having an injector on the intake for cold starts. Washing some fuel down the intake to keep the carbon monster away. A little like 80s bosch cis injection.
@MrTheHillfolk 8 ай бұрын
@@stephengoad3091 Keep an eye on that if it gets cold there. Ive had a time or 2 where its gotten plugged up and froze,and puked all the oil out the front seal. GM 8.1s in generator applications were notorious for this ,until they wrapped the pcv system with an insulating blanket.
@RegeneratedNitemare 8 ай бұрын
Could this happen with any engine? I’m asking, I have a 1999 Jeep 4.0 inline 6 cyl. Approx. 110k on the dash clock
@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM 8 ай бұрын
Could? Yes. Probably not thouh, it's a jeep 4.0 unless it's burning crazy amounts of oil you're fine.
@RegeneratedNitemare 8 ай бұрын
@@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM no oil burning… thankfully, though I have a rear main seal going out and a very very small & insignificant oil leak… either way, thanks! I won’t sweat it.
@RegeneratedNitemare 8 ай бұрын
@@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM also, wouldn’t Sea Foam do the job on this, if you didn’t want to do a full engine block tear down…?
@stephengoad3091 8 ай бұрын
Technically yes it could, what's the time let me see this on other engines are valve stem seals are shot what you got a really bad PVC system dumping oil into your intake. But luckily most of the engines from back then had the injectors in the intake which get this problem to a minimum since fuel is actually a cleaner as well. On that engine I would use a little seafoam down the intake to clean the backside of the valves I got plenty of videos showing you how to use seafoam to clean out an engine.
@firstlast--- 8 ай бұрын
Wow lol
@timkrouse345 8 ай бұрын
I got the fake Makita for like $30. VERY weak (less power than my 1/4" Makita impact drivers). It was not worth shipping it back, so I use it for light work.
@ratchetclan3 9 ай бұрын
Mine weren’t even secured, for anyone wondering you put them in angled then push down firmly past the plastic tab. If you try to put them in flat or scoop them under the tab then they end up flat instead and hit each other.
@Wobbydoo 9 ай бұрын
That stuck wheel bolt looks to have a damaged/cross thread.
@stevejudge7873 9 ай бұрын
What did would to cost you to show the dipstick????
@yoislam2 10 ай бұрын
Thanks it’s a great budget impact to keep in the boot/trunk
@wakeUPdummies 10 ай бұрын
Great content. Keep em coming
@mg8720-u7j 10 ай бұрын
I would use it for my press in wheel bearings that always go bad on front wheel drive cars.
@williamdejeffrio9701 10 ай бұрын
I just purchased one for use in my home garage pressing in/out bearing and such. I love it already but you have shared some great ideas here. Many thanks!
@stephengoad3091 10 ай бұрын
You welcome and I hope it will continue to be a good thing in your garage.
@naomicastillo2000 11 ай бұрын
I have code P2432, I followed your video replaced the whole second air injector but I am still showing check engine with the same code, any advice? Thanks!
@stephengoad3091 11 ай бұрын
Did you check the pressure sensor on a small tube and make sure it was? Also I have heard with high mileage engines the tube on the back of the engine sometimes gets blonde up and slows the flow there. I'm not sure how you really check that though. Could also be O2 or a stopped up catalytic converter. If you haven't changed out the sensor yet I would do that first it's only a few dollars sensor off eBay. Also they have a whole update kit with sensor in it like I talked about in the video. I hope something of this will put you in the right direction, also did you do a smoke test to make sure you didn't have any leaks?
@BarneyWarwick-od8ld 11 ай бұрын
is that the 318 or 360
@stephengoad3091 11 ай бұрын
The engine in my pickup truck is a 5.9L 360 engine. But I believe most of the injectors of that Year model are pretty much the same.
@samueldelacruz603 11 ай бұрын
Can you buy the caps new ? Or u have to use the b ones you Already have?
@stephengoad3091 11 ай бұрын
Yes you can buy the new center caps nails if you want to or do you have a hole in the old one you can buy a new for it
@christophermoreau711 11 ай бұрын
Thank God for regular common sense people !
@losmoore3358 11 ай бұрын
I like them. But i dont trust ebay.
@stephengoad3091 11 ай бұрын
What you don't trust anybody about? It's got that eBay money back guarantee. It is not the item you purchased there will give you your money back or get you a refund. I've only been don in 2to3 time's over several years.
@4u25out 11 ай бұрын
How it is holding up? I still see it for $35.
@stephengoad3091 11 ай бұрын
Pretty good actually, Ashley and use the 10 13 and 19 mm the 13th head is a little floppy but ratchets just fine still think it's a good buy.
@stephengoad3091 11 ай бұрын
So just to clarify the ratchet set is holding up pretty good. Only complaint is the heads get little floppy with a lot of uses.
@johnqueen2754 11 ай бұрын
What kind of fluid
@stephengoad3091 11 ай бұрын
ATF + 4 it'll take about 9 to 10 quartz for filter change.