So for a sleeper bevel on an overlay you would add the two backing angles and subtract from 90 correct?
@G0DIS128 күн бұрын
Then 1x4's or 1x2's stick sheathing yeah? Thats what we used to stay with the contour of the curves in the roof framing and it worked out for us. Idk if the roofers shingled it or copper tin roofed it we just framed it on one of th houses we framed.
@mikelamonte8094Ай бұрын
thank you for sharing
@MadmaximussАй бұрын
Nicely done
@kuldeepsingh-fj4dm2 ай бұрын
on the jog you said 1 1/2 down off your plumb mark. isnt it supposed to be 3/4 inch same as you did on 2*4 wall plate ?
@RooftopWarriors2 ай бұрын
what about the math to do the rafters that attach to the sleepers? I always mess up the bevel side
@KaiSIndvik2 ай бұрын
This was so helpful, thanks for taking the time to make this!
@CharlotteYakkingNoob2 ай бұрын
Why the 6 why 3 or 4 It would widen the radius I suppose but why 6 You said it was a good number I’m just curious
@Starsock782 ай бұрын
This is brilliant. I'll have watch this slowly, and over again and...then find a large piece of cardboard, very large at the recycling center to make my templates. Build the template, then add the flat 'roof' front and sides and trace the radius for the hip. Thank you for sorting this out. It's like, sort of, launching a ship.
@G0DIS128 күн бұрын
Might as well manufacture these roofs to attach to homes. They'd probably sell
@JohhnyB822 ай бұрын
Nice tutorial! Thanks. I'm getting ready to build one over my side door and this was helpful. I've only ever helped do one before and we basically just scribed the hip rafter by setting it in place uncut and then sliding a long piece of wood, with a pencil attached to the end of it, down the curve of the front rafters. It worked pretty good and didn't require any complicated measurement transfer like you were doing. And it let you to adjust the length of your hip rafter Before the curve is cut, which gives you a very accurate curve. As for the backing angle... You can just leave it long and then shave down the high edges so that it creates a point on the top of the curve that matches the one where the front and side rafters meet at the top and then it dissipates and flattens out as you move toward the bottom of the curve. That way your roof deck meets on the ridge point and sits solid against wood instead of having a gap behind it. Only takes a couple minutes with a plane. Or a belt sander also works good.
@Redoakcarpentry2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comment! Yeah I’ve done that as well. After 25 years I find more pleasure in trying to understand the geometry of these scenarios than just knowing a functional way to produce the product. I’ve put together a lot of complicated shit in the past with scribing and guess and check methods, often that’s the fastest way. Good luck on your project!
@leoalbini7972 ай бұрын
Great video! Now, for an irregular hip roof, do I follow the same steps for each pitch? For example, a 6/12 and 12/12 roof, do I go 6 hip and 12 hip or it changes?
@dylmcd123 ай бұрын
your videos are kickass!
@lendavidhart97103 ай бұрын
Great idea, thank you for sharing that
@zephyr14083 ай бұрын
I want to point out to a guy who believes “ it’s not rocket science “. Actually you’re right ? We are building ppls homes who are making one of thee largest investments of their life’s ! Do I want a clown who claims it’s not rocket science? Or ? Someone who takes pride in his trade and understands the science behind better building ? I am a finish contractor who sometimes subs to a GC ? I can tell you right now I can ferret out clowns like him in a couple questions! And “ I doubt he is kicking anyone in their face”! Carry on; I learn a lot about framing from you thank you!
@williammacdonald12673 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for taking the time 💪🏻
@derekdunbar96363 ай бұрын
Excellent videos! Hoping you’ll do a bay window curved roof video. I’d imagine it’s a combination of this and your curved video. But…
@boldcoastexotics3 ай бұрын
What other books do you recommend? I worked for a larger company for years but because I was diverse in my skill I was always pulled off the site when framing out the roof/ dormer to do other jobs to bring the company in some quick money while they were tied up on the new build. I have my own construction business now but I stay away from new construction because of my lack of knowledge with framing up roofs and dormers. I'm going to purchase a copy of the roof cutters secrets asap.
@damonisrael78843 ай бұрын
I remember those three days Only one of my guys showed up on those three days. Keep up the good work. I follow because your tips are amazing.
@lornemcquarrie-ki9mf3 ай бұрын
If i did this id have a ledger. Is there a reason not to? How did you secure it? Great work btw. Im still stuck on scribing in my hip. Need to rewatch and wrap my head around your technique
@Redoakcarpentry3 ай бұрын
I have a continuous joist behind the ply, so a ledger would be redundant in my opinion
@canievision8084 ай бұрын
Nice work. I hope they appreciate you building suck a steep roof. Hahaha. Why they being so mean. Hahaha
@jeffccr36204 ай бұрын
I always make sure you have 3 1/2 " height at the plate, it also matters what's going on the gable behind it brick or rock or siding that determine the ridge width Good video tho
@TheDadx36 күн бұрын
Excellent points!
@Maximum4684 ай бұрын
a solution for you hight problem would be to plane both sides at an angle until you hit the center line. hard to explain without a drawing.
@RobertStevens-ck4et4 ай бұрын
One of the best layouts I've seen, glad to see you used backing cuts .How ever if you're not using a closed soffit I double bevel vertical seat cuts on hips to accommodate finished freeze blocks. 40 years ago I learned Your methods using a full length rafter book. Can't count how many PHONY roof to wall hips I've seen. California Framer
@RobertStevens-ck4et4 ай бұрын
One of the best layouts I've seen, glad to see you used backing cuts .How ever if you're not using a closed soffit I double bevel vertical seat cuts on hips to accommodate finished freeze blocks. 40 years ago I learned Your methods using a full length rafter book. Can't count how many PHONY roof to wall hips I've seen. California Framer
@Aboston8574 ай бұрын
Now that looks buttery bro
@jonorcutt33044 ай бұрын
Thanks for the videos man. The music is up a little too loud to actually hear you speaking.
@Redoakcarpentry4 ай бұрын
Yes, my bad
@stefboulas4 ай бұрын
Great Video. This does save time
@juniorpink10214 ай бұрын
not good visual
@ronw86284 ай бұрын
2:58 instead of pivoting around a nail, you could line up the tongue with the perimeter line and then mark 90° up the blade. Ditto for a second blade line or mirror image coordinate. Of course the corner of the square is facing away from the 135° bay hip angle as you have your square. Guessing but the most you could be from the bay's hip angle is 14" along the tongue or the 2 blade lines won't intersect each other without extending the two lines.
@Redoakcarpentry4 ай бұрын
Yup that’s true. I only used this particular method because I wanted people to understand how to bicect an angle, because it’s useful in other areas of framing and very often you have no choice but to swing an arc.
@ronw86284 ай бұрын
@@Redoakcarpentry btw, I liked how you took the effort to back the top edge of the hip, ledger, etc. ★★★★★
@Redoakcarpentry4 ай бұрын
@@ronw8628 thank you my friend
@kickyourfaceandlaugh6074 ай бұрын
Lmao. You don’t need to do all that to find that angle buddy. Just run it long and get a block and boom that’s your angle. You must be just starting out champ.
@Redoakcarpentry4 ай бұрын
It’s literally adding two numbers together, but if you wanna waste your cut guys time passing boards around, it’s your dime. Been at this 25 years. I know how to scribe an angle. Everyone knows how to do that. Better carpenters have understand how the angles are determined and have shit cut and ready for their partner.
@kickyourfaceandlaugh6074 ай бұрын
@@Redoakcarpentry you spent 10 minutes trying to find this angle. When it takes me a minute to get my boy to pass a scrap and scribe my angle 😂
@Redoakcarpentry4 ай бұрын
@@kickyourfaceandlaugh607 10 mins? Obviously you don’t understand how it works. It’s literally adding two numbers and subtracting it from 90. A child could do in 2 seconds. Sounds like it would take you 10 mins to do it tho, stick to scribing things you don’t understand. Probably most of your roof is scribed together I would wager.
@kickyourfaceandlaugh6074 ай бұрын
@@Redoakcarpentry framing ain’t rocket science genius 😂 you have lots to learn champ
@anthonyz73274 ай бұрын
Very good video but can you do a video explaining how to calculate the rafter that lays on top of the other roof fist drawing please
@travisandtracyjacobs61984 ай бұрын
🎉 Awesome man. Is that your trailer? Can we see the build out? I’m getting to this here soon. -10 is pretty cold but I would take that before rain. Rain makes me crazy. I am a snow guy for sure.
@travisandtracyjacobs61984 ай бұрын
Red Oak. Stoked to see more content. Always enjoy your stuff. How is the house remodel going? Question on the video: How does one know when to use the true angle? For example, If I know the pitch of each roof, when it’s time to decide the degree, when would I know with my square when I really need to cut 15 degrees or the inverse of that? Is it by looking at it? Or any pitch that meets a steeper pitch will be the true degree and any steeper pitch meeting a lower pitch will be the inverse? I guess I am trying to figure out, when subtracting from 90, what determines the true angle vs the inverse or speed square angle?
@Redoakcarpentry4 ай бұрын
If you have a shed roof the formula will give you a true angle, If it’s a pair of stacked gables it will be the angle you get by pivoting speed square to 15° and marking the blade of the square. Should be pretty clear by looking at your building which scenario you have 🤙
@travisandtracyjacobs61984 ай бұрын
@@Redoakcarpentry I believe that is making sense to me. 🤪 Do you know why stacked gables is the speed square degree? Just trying to understand the knowledge.
@Redoakcarpentry4 ай бұрын
@@travisandtracyjacobs6198 It doesn’t have to be, you could just skip subtract from 90° and mark out the sum of the two pitches. I prefer to have the same formula for both scenarios. It’s easier to remember. Then I only have to remember which way to mark the square. But you can do it however you want, so long as you understand what the true angle is supposed to be
@travisandtracyjacobs61984 ай бұрын
@@Redoakcarpentry I believe that’s where I am hung up. Knowing what the true angle should be. Not how to get there now that you posted this, but if one gable comes out to say 30 degrees, based on pitch, and the other 35, I would need to cut the gable on top at the difference of 25?
@Redoakcarpentry4 ай бұрын
Yes, pivot to 25°on the speed square and mark the blade. This forms an angle of 65° relative to the edge of the board. I think you might be imagining this is more complicated than it is 😊.
@dalegammon17594 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation. Thank you!
@jofasable5 ай бұрын
Just came across your video and to me its "Gold Dust" I will check out this book also, Thank you
@user-hu1um2xk5h5 ай бұрын
Definitely just your plain jane old platform stick framing all day everyday. Not any balloon framing or Chicago framing at all. Not even close.
@chiefbiglew5 ай бұрын
clear as mud.good job.
@smokedsalmon83945 ай бұрын
I'm always looking for that new red oak content when taking my morning shit...❤
@lukehewitt94136 ай бұрын
This is insane cool 😎 What would normally be the roof covering for something like this?
@Redoakcarpentry6 ай бұрын
Copper
@chrispratt83746 ай бұрын
Type your total rise in hit rise then convert stair it’ll give you all your information if you keep hitting the stair button
@districtwork6 ай бұрын
Это что за козлы? Tougbuild? Как они в работе?
@peterkiernan16686 ай бұрын
Excellent teaching video.
@dalegammon17596 ай бұрын
Looking forward to more videos!
@tgood19856 ай бұрын
You deserve way more than that, your videos are so informative! Can’t wait for more videos!
@Blackflag9206 ай бұрын
Congratulations!!!
@Theoldtinshedwoodsmith6 ай бұрын
Do you find it more accurate to add a inch vs place the miter at the end of the saw and measure off that with no need to add the inch? Just curious and always looking for improvements
@Redoakcarpentry6 ай бұрын
Yes. There’s play on the end of tape measures that vary slightly. It’s meant to account for the thickness of the tape end but the tape rivets get worn, the tape end can get bent, however the scale on the tape is the same no matter what. So if you cut an inch when you measure the location and cut an inch when you mark the board it’s more precise.
@smokedsalmon83942 ай бұрын
@Redoakcarpentry .. blue tape trim so it doesn't move is also a nice move i find myself doing alot off the short point...ty love the content ..[from a fellow carpenter in portland oregon ]
@freelonmorris36596 ай бұрын
Careful! Don't " inch it"!!
@damonisrael78846 ай бұрын
On my exteriors I use an L buck with an extra stud So the extra stud goes on this side of the > L so the 3.5 portion sticks past an 1-1/2 This way they can still insulate if that makes sense Just wha I do. Not knocking ya at all. I’m just not a fan of blocks on exteriors unless i absolutely must for some reason.