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@TimJaramillo
@TimJaramillo 15 күн бұрын
Very cool video Tom, thanks for posting! It was interesting to hear the thick cast snares, compared to the classic thin Supra. Did you end up selling both your 3 and 5 mil Savage snares?
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 14 күн бұрын
Thanks Tim! Yes I did end up selling both.
@levimageedrumsnz
@levimageedrumsnz 23 күн бұрын
Great video bro , how would you compare the low end on the 5mm vs the Tama re issue ?
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 23 күн бұрын
Thanks! They are very close but I think that Tama hits a bit lower with more sub. The 5mm is close and is a bit more open sounding.
@levimageedrumsnz
@levimageedrumsnz 10 күн бұрын
@@Tom.Thorslund thanks dude, ive now ordered a tama 50th anniversary snare, appreciate this video and your input :) hoping i wont want to buy any more snares after this one haha
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 10 күн бұрын
@@levimageedrumsnz Congrats! You're gonna love it.
@jamesrohl9558
@jamesrohl9558 Ай бұрын
Absolutely GREAT sounding snare drums, all 3 of them!! Your tuning and head suggestions are also spot on. I have a 3mm DW Bronze snare drum (6 1/2 x 14) and it sounds fantastic as well. It took some time figure out how to tune it up, and as you stated, that bottom head needs to be really tight, top head should be med./high tight as well, and they will sing, but with balls. And yes a 3mm shell thickness minimum is needed for that extra heft as you say. Love your drumming and I too own Paiste cymbals, so really liked it all my man...
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund Ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it and I bet that DW kicks ass too!
@declanwhite
@declanwhite 2 ай бұрын
nice vid dude
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@nordicomsystems8841
@nordicomsystems8841 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2011 Desert Burst Standard Traditional and I love what you've done with yours. I was planning to get the Faber ABR-1 and the Mojotone 59 Clone pickups...might have to check out the Wizz pups now, they sound pretty mean!
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah Wizz are terrific. The old wire versions are even better. I also highly recommend Brandonwound. But the Faber bridge will absolutely transform it immediately. Those stick ABR's are crap. You'll get such a fatter, warmer and more vintage tone instantaneously. You may even find you dont need to change your pups!
@BestOfBixby
@BestOfBixby 3 ай бұрын
Great video for a few reasons. 1. I owned the Keplinger and sold it. It’s good to hear it again! 2. I haven’t heard a lot of recorded maple Ayottes snares and the lighter colored one is amazing! 3. I owned a custom Ayotte kit and could never get it to sound great. Yours does sound great! Thanks for making this. From a former Ayotte endorser.
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! Glad you enjoyed the video. Ayottes are amazing.
@hugorezende199
@hugorezende199 4 ай бұрын
Hey do you all feel a lot of diference if its 1mm or 3mm? I have seen people saying that a more thick sheel does not really makes the sound better If a buy a 1mm brass and a 3mm brass snare it would make all the diference? Awesome snares by the way.
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 4 ай бұрын
I think there is definitely a big difference between 1mm to 3mm, but probably less from 3 to 5+. 3mm shells just have such a strong and beefy response that thinner shells can't really replicate. Not to say a 1mm shell is a bad drum, just that if you are looking for that HEFT in each hit, you need a 3mm+.
@DennisLeeflang
@DennisLeeflang 4 ай бұрын
Great playing dude! I did a shootout between a vintage Tama and two Savages (on my channel) and I preferred both Savages over the Tama, albeit a pretty subtle difference. The savages had more lows and no annoying overtones (the Tama didn’t have a lot of annoying overtones but I definitely would reach for some gaff when recording with that drum while the Savages sound dialed in with no muffling). The 3mm Savage being my favorite. The one thing about the vintage ones (and probably also the Savages) is that no two of them sound identical because sand casting isn’t a very exact/consistent process. There’s also a percentage of shells that come out unusable. Which is why they decided to do the centrifugal casting for the reissues. More consistent and less/no bad shells. That different process does also change the sound slightly once again. Either way, if you threw a vintage Tama and a few more Savages in the mix, they would all sound a little different so it’s hard to make a definite statement about which is better. And then the differences are subtle. All killer drums. But at half the price of a reissue and about a third of the price of a vintage, I’d buy a Savage again any day!
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Dennis! It was actually your shootout video of those snares that set me on this quest in the first place! I really love all these snares, but have to say, the Tama reissue just is in a league of its own. Though I do agree with you that at half the price, its hard to justify not getting a Savage instead. Thanks for your comment! We've also recently bought your Y cables and are getting some very tasty tom sounds on our new recordings!
@DennisLeeflang
@DennisLeeflang 4 ай бұрын
@@Tom.ThorslundOh nice dude! Thanks so much for that. I love hearing that!
@BeatsAndMeats
@BeatsAndMeats 4 ай бұрын
I've heard your 5mm in person and it fucking slays!!!!
@cristaples
@cristaples 4 ай бұрын
I’ve got a Savage 5mm 8” deep with bell brass hoops. It’s absolutely stunning.
@ivanbajovic3476
@ivanbajovic3476 4 ай бұрын
Sound of your drums and cymbals are so good. Real rock 'n roll 🤘
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@richardobrien4465
@richardobrien4465 4 ай бұрын
Tama and Kepler have so much visceral appeal - you called it heft - like it! So much oomph. Love them both. Gretch is good too! I just picked up a near mint 6.5 inch Ayotte Keplinger with triple flange hoops for £700 GBP. It is your video that made me have to have it! 😂👍
@Curtis.720
@Curtis.720 4 ай бұрын
Oh man they’re so close. I’ve got a 3mm savage on the way this year, but I got the same scorched earth finish that was on Lars’ signature drum. Great video man!
@Bonzoham
@Bonzoham 5 ай бұрын
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@josephandrachick1774
@josephandrachick1774 6 ай бұрын
love that gretsch bell brass
@NEALBABBITT
@NEALBABBITT 8 ай бұрын
They all sound good, I really like how you tune. I gotta say they all sound similar but the supraphonic really jumped out at me.
@doublea7054
@doublea7054 9 ай бұрын
Keplinger kicks ass
@AlexiefDelbes
@AlexiefDelbes 11 ай бұрын
Ayotte drums are killer drums
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 11 ай бұрын
Agreed! I now have two full Ayotte kits. I'm planning to make some new videos soon to show them off.
@SionedWillicombe
@SionedWillicombe 11 ай бұрын
sick video man - what cymbals are those?
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Paiste 602s. I've had a lot of cymbals and I just absolutely love these cymbals to death. I've got 15" hats, 19" thin crash, 19" crash and 24" ride. They all pair together so well too.
@SionedWillicombe
@SionedWillicombe 11 ай бұрын
@@Tom.Thorslund Nice, they sound lovely
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 11 ай бұрын
Wanted to add a small clarification. So, apparently Tama never actually produced a 5mm shell! It was simply a typo in the first Ad that appeared for the bell brass snare and because of that many believed that the "Terminator" was 5mm because it apparently was a prototype model. But it seems that isn't true, and all 1980's Tama Bell Brass snares were indeed 3mm. Because of that, I now have a 3mm Savage replica on the way and will shoot a new video to compare the 5mm to the 3mm to the Gretsch 3mm. That will be interesting!
@krusher74
@krusher74 Жыл бұрын
the keplinger has that horrible overtone after ring i hate from coated ambassadors! the gretch and savage dampen that out.
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund Жыл бұрын
Really? I don't hear that. The Keplinger is actually an emperor. The Gretsch and Savage are both Ambassadors. I found that the keplinger did have some harsh overtones when it had steel hoops, but the wood hoops really helped control it and bring out some lower end body too.
@starskystar
@starskystar Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom for the great video! You're right the Keplinger just has "It". I do like the School Festival also.There is something about the early 70's 3 ply maple Ludwigs.
@Svensson1971
@Svensson1971 Жыл бұрын
The Kep sounds 🥇🎯!
@dgcorozco
@dgcorozco Жыл бұрын
who is Ayotte Keplinger? is this the KEPLINGER from seattle - AKA KEPLINGER SNARES ?
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund Жыл бұрын
Ayotte was a custom drum company out of Canada. They were super popular in the 90s and early 2000's but have not been in production for like 5-10 years now. Gregg Keplinger from Seattle worked with them to create the Ayotte Keplinger snare. So it is a Gregg Keplinger 3mm stainless steel shell with Ayotte's quick release lugs and wood hoops. Absolutely amazing snare.
@CFChristian
@CFChristian Жыл бұрын
That Supra was by far my favorite. Hilarious, considering the company.
@steverichdrummr
@steverichdrummr Жыл бұрын
I like the Tama replica the best.
@jeroldparker7766
@jeroldparker7766 Жыл бұрын
LM -402
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund Жыл бұрын
I was wondering how long it would take anyone to notice that screw up haha. I got confused because I play Paiste 602's.
@timbofromkeno
@timbofromkeno Жыл бұрын
All these drums sound so good. You've got some amazing tubs there, dude!!
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund Жыл бұрын
Thanks Timbo!
@hugorezende199
@hugorezende199 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Great sounds. You dont have other sizes than 14x6,5 right? I see you are a big fan of the very Bonhan sound really. That supraphonic would be the cheaper one right?
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund Жыл бұрын
Most of my snare are 14x6.5 but I do have a Pearl masters custom maple 14x5.5 which is also a nice drum. I'm definitely a Bonham fan. The Supra would indeed be the cheapest if you were to buy a reissue, however this one is from 1976 and is pretty mint so is worth at least $1000. If you got a new Supra you need to remove the rubber gaskets from the lugs and swap the hoops for 1.8mm hoops vs the 2.3mm hoops that come with it now. All vintage Ludwig's up until 1977 used 1.8mm hoops. It definitely gives the drums a different sound.
@tianaguilianelli143
@tianaguilianelli143 Жыл бұрын
*Promo sm*
@BestOfBixby
@BestOfBixby Жыл бұрын
Because I may be the previous owner.
@davepounds8924
@davepounds8924 Жыл бұрын
Nice snares Thought the bell brass sounded the best but wouldn’t gig with those 30-40 pound snares
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund Жыл бұрын
The heaviest one is the Savage 5mm weighing in around 19lbs. Heavy but not insane.
@connordenis
@connordenis Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! So many great snare drums. Cool to hear the gretsch and the savage side by side. The Gretsch was my favorite of the bunch!
@treypav
@treypav Жыл бұрын
The ayotte and the supraphonic are my favorites but all of them sound amazing!
@BestOfBixby
@BestOfBixby Жыл бұрын
Fun video. Your kep doesn’t have an “H” written on the inside of the shell does it?
@BestOfBixby
@BestOfBixby Жыл бұрын
Is the letter “H” written on the inside of the shell? I imagine you’d know as it was written pretty large.
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund Жыл бұрын
No H. I bought it from the original owner.
@bencampbell198
@bencampbell198 Жыл бұрын
Really loved this run-through, Tom. Some lovely instruments that I'm very glad are being played and enjoyed.
@charlesplaysbass
@charlesplaysbass Жыл бұрын
YES! Amazing dude! You were destined for this kind of content 🙌🏼
@cetindalkilic6236
@cetindalkilic6236 Жыл бұрын
Hello, where can you buy the steering wheel and the scoop Greeting Cetin from Germany
@Drummerbobo
@Drummerbobo Жыл бұрын
sounds great! very cool
@johnpeters3554
@johnpeters3554 Жыл бұрын
Nice Job Tom, sounds great!! Drums are tuned perfectly.
@bonzoleum
@bonzoleum 2 жыл бұрын
LIKE 31. Great playing!!!
@AlexSlavenDrums
@AlexSlavenDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Those drums sound and look fantastic! Glad they got a worthy owner!
@AWall1975
@AWall1975 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great. Wish I could watch longer. The shaking hurts my eyes. Also when did Matt Colby DW drums? Says it’s a replica kit.
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that! My floor in that room really shook from the bass drum. Matt Cameron played DW's on Badmotorfinger and Superunknown, then switched to Ayotte customs and now uses Yamaha. This set is DW with an Ayotte Keplinger stainless snare, which was and still is his main snare he uses.
@AWall1975
@AWall1975 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tom.Thorslund Very cool. I assumed he always played Yamahas. Thanks for the info. Either way you nailed it. Hope to see some more SG covers. Keep it up!
@SKragseth
@SKragseth 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet! So sweet
@notasilicaanimus
@notasilicaanimus 3 жыл бұрын
That snare sounds absolutely fantastic.
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It's a hell of a snare.
@JamesDixon
@JamesDixon 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, excellent, you nailed this. Great sounding kit as well 🥁👌👏
@gzuz4148
@gzuz4148 3 жыл бұрын
Its just not bumblebee without the weathering it's what makes It a sleeper it's basically more than meets the eye
@i.peterson9744
@i.peterson9744 3 жыл бұрын
This is an old video but does anyone know what kind of pop riveted hood cowling was used? I have tried looking all over the web.
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 3 жыл бұрын
I believe this is the one I used on this car. www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/95000/10002/-1
@i.peterson9744
@i.peterson9744 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tom.Thorslund Thanks man I really appreciate it. Take care
@MoonbeamBlack
@MoonbeamBlack 3 жыл бұрын
You f’n rock!!!!!!! <3
@rodneylee4026
@rodneylee4026 3 жыл бұрын
I'm dizzy
@Tom.Thorslund
@Tom.Thorslund 3 жыл бұрын
LOL yeah the camera was on my desk and was vibrating like crazy! My house is built on a crawl space so the floors really vibrate a lot. I'll need to figure out how to isolate the camera next time.