Simply NO

Night Lords were the least evil legion during the Great Crusade change my mind

🟣 Fulgrim and Emperor's Children become Serpents, Konrad Curze and Night Lords become Dragons, Alpharius/Omegon and Alpha Legion become Crocodiles. The excessive power of the Emperor's Children, the Night Lords and the Alpha Legion under Slaanesh with bodies of pure dark stone (the Ice Moon of Slaanesh). Circle of Avidity is a hell of gold, Circle of Gluttony is a hell of blood, Circle of Carnality is a hell of sand, Circle of Supremacy (Paramountcy) is a hell of ash, Circle of Vanity (Vainglory) is a hell of water, Circle of Indolency is a hell of snow. The gold pearls of the Circle of Avidity are Gold Snakes. The coral/seaweed Forest of Vanity! Because Slaanesh is nature in water (example the sea forests of the Laer). Specifically the perfect Forest of Vanity is of coral with spikes and seaweed with spines. Serpents and Crocodiles in Supremacy, Horses and Hippocampi in Vanity, Pegasi and Dragons in Indolency.

super earth would easily survive in 40k due to typically overlooked factors, everyone looks at hard factors such as weapons and gigatons of firepower and number of ships but ignore the critical soft factors that win wars more than most. super earth is simply capable of reacting way quicker than the imperium, move way quicker than the emporium and adapt way quicker than the imperium while also having manufacturing systems most likely better than the imperium. while the imperium is getting its head out of its ass and is sending its fleet to deal with this new threat, super earth would of already recognized the imperium, probably mined all possible data from the worlds that either defected or surrendered. and actively adapting new manufacturing facilities that will easily match and probably outpace the imperium of man. this is a society that won a galactic war on 3 fronts, reversed engineered significantly advanced alien tech extremely quickly, and keeps progressing further and further down further advanced techs to a point where they can press a free win button with the black fluid tech and casually use plasma weapons that blow up in your face. AT THE CORE OF THE ISSUE- super earth is a technologically advanced, hyper xenophobic, fanatic, and militaristic. which by itself fits in 40k but has a natural advantage of not being grim. which gives them an innate ability to actively improve and desire further improvement especially over an adversary such as the imperium. note: this is a comment of whether super earth can SURVIVE in 40k im not indicating whether they will WIN against anyone. rather super earth has every ability to make a name for themselves on a galactic scale and tip the scales in a different direction

Im sure everyone would go insane if they had visions of the heresy and all their brothers fates and being written off as a crackhead

Maybe Konrad was the emperor’s future executioner for his brothers after big E’s plans came to fruition.

For once I think chaos has NOTHING to do with his fall , and I do not think the emperor designed him to be a depraved sadist . No , I think the origin of his madness is the fact that he grew not by being raised by parents but by eating the brains of the criminals of nostromo , gaining knowledge in the process but also getting corrupted by their personality. Normally an Astarte will not be corrupted this way because his personality is already made but here Konrad was a literal blank slate . And that’s the problem he became a sadist but had an innate ( by the emperor’s design) sense of justice which clashed constantly. I think if he was raised ( even by dubious peoples )he could have reached adulthood uncorrupted and then would have used his precognition ability to pick the best path in the future instead of the one who will permit him to indulge in his depravity .

Its like Angron, he was predestined to be evil because of his environment and likely chaos manipulations

so, I am batman in no stated terms

You are what you eat and Konrad Curze ate insane criminals that are so depraved most of them have one kill under their belt by the age of ten.

Well swan diving into a world of perpetual darkness and inhabited by homicidal grape* cannibals has to do a number on you

This is a great look at how and why he became the man he was. Thank you! You really understand the character of the Night Haunter.

Mama aqui

A Bad'n, The Destroyer. Well he's not wrong.

How many, if any, are aware of the part Erebus played in the Heresy?

Very well made video. Only thing I would add is a collection of sources in the description that were used in the production of the scrip so that we could research the topic further on our own later and to serve as reading suggestions

Lorgar was stupid to think predators give a shit about their food.

What tipped you off? Was it the part where Chaos is literally Hell and so joining it might be a bad idea?

You made a mistake with the Hell Divers not being elite. The avg life span of "2 minutes" in military terms means what is guaranteed survival after firefight start. After that the military does not guarantee survival after that, (an avg). For example a US vietname soldier life expectancy is like 20 seconds for a gunner. So on and so forth. It's measured in seconds. So the fact that a Helldiver is 2 minutes, that's insanely good for what is effectively a bro juiced rifle man with strategems. Also consider that they have been soldiers since age like 7, since super earth have child soilders. You have to be 18 to be allowed to be a Helldiver though.

For those learning managed democracy, it doesn't have to be the way Super Earth does it. A real world example of managed democracy is the USA, it's education system, and it's media that speaks for and support the US government's objectives, it manufactures consent from the people.

Oh so the Death Guard are english! By their origins i mean, what could be classified as "english" in the far future of desunited Terra, cuz here i thought it was Lion and the Dark Angels that were inspired by the english; Caliban's forest and the Rock, meetings in caverns, their deep green armor reminds me a lot of Robin Hood's bois and the Sherwood Forest And of course mandatory: ALL TRUE DEATH GUARDS DIED AT ISTVAN III!

lorgar has been missing too long. we need to hear from him again. see how all his crazy shit happened out.

TikTok ass power scaling what is this comment section dude, these ripoffs are getting torn apart by any 40k faction in seconds what are ya'll talking about 😭

Lorgar needs a good fisting, and Fulgrim should be the fister! I've been working on a drawing of The Phoenician giving Lorgar a jolly good fisting, but I've yet to get it put on a T-shirt.

Look, Wordbearers basically one of few factions which basically won. Lorgar made Emperor into God, whether he like it or not.

Is this AI narrated?

Ironically joining Chaos is more akin to signing the Enabling Act of 1933 than "liberation".

This was either written. By AI or a terrible writer. Very repetitive and barely gets to the point.

She is literally a DEI character and I refuse to include her in canon.

poor lorgar

Chaos is a metaphysical capitalist, it siphons off the excess emotions produced by its followers to empower itself, uses that power to expand and consume yet more people and places, thus gaining more followers, it devours other warp entities, especially less violent, corruptive, or greedy ones, and then uses their powers and authorities and followers to fuel itself. That said, they are a reflection of the tyranny, decadence, cruelty and greed of the imperium, the dark eldar and other vile, violent and greedy empires of the galaxy.

Seeing Chaos as a solution to Mankind's problems is the equivalent to ingesting tape worms to try to lose weight. Lorgar knows this, he's just a psychopath who seeks to shield his horrible deeds behind "divinity".

I would put Helldivers on the same level as Tempestus Scions or Imperial stormtroopers, ya know some of the best regular human soldiers the imperium has, if you count their orbitals, then they scale higher. To be honest i think they would join the imperium...maybe fight for abit like the usual but eventually join but on their own terms, would also be cool to see another human faction besides the imperium too tho

Chaos is right.

"I'm not a god guys... Now kneel before me"

chaos are not gods of concepts, they are parasites of it. the most bloated demon that syphons of energies and redistributes a small part it can pull from the stream to others. like a bully hoarding the balls in a playground not being the creator of balls. not worthy of any worship.

obviously, it reflects what happens when impulse and urges are left unchecked without limit and it continues to find things to fuel itself. it's like blind hatred given a symbolic form, it doesn't end and once it's subject ceases to exist, it will attempt to turn to another to repeat the process.

The reason Lorgar and Magnus got along so well is because Lorgar believed in everything but himself and Magnus didn't believe in anything but himself. Lorgar is the weakest of all the Primarchs.

Chaos represents humanity's worst fears and fragilities. Chaos is the underlying psyche of human beings to begin with. To claim humanity and Chaos cannot co-exist is absurd and also shows a lack of understanding of the setting, since without humanity Chaos cannot exist at all, and it is why Chaos allows for the Imperium to exist, for without humanity it would starve to death. The most terrifying thing about the Word Bearers is that they are correct, what they preach is nothing but the truth. That doesn't mean Lorgar and his sons are good or that their goals are desirable, which only makes them more terrifying.

The galaxy darkest era....what it was not dark enough before that huh

Chiming in to point out that Prospero stands.

Lorgar is wrong and water is wet. Who would have thought.

Ahriman looks like he wants to call me n'wah

One of Lorgar's titles is "Urizen." Unless you're familiar with William Blake's mystical poetry, this name means nothing, but it also means everything. In Blake's mysticism, there was an undivided primordial man called Albion, a divine figure who was both a man and a country. Eventually, through a series of events, he was divided into four "Zoas" of great spiritual power. These were: Tharmas: represented sensation. He had a female "emanation" named Enion who represented sexual desires. Blake associated him with the Father in the Christian trinity. Luvah: Literally "Lover", he represented human emotions. His female emanation was Vala, who represented nature. He was associated with the Son in the Trinity, but eventually became a figure of hatred and rebellion known as Orc, and instigates wars Urthona: literally "Earth Owner." He is the Zoa of Imagination, and mostly appears in Blakes works in his earthly form as a blacksmith character name Loas. His Female counterpart is Enarthimon, who is simultaneously his mate and his mother. He is associsted with the Holy Ghost in the Trinity. Urizen: (You Reason) is the Zoa of reason and abstraction. He is the foe of Loas (imagination/chaos) and Luvah (emotions). He is associstrd with the Heavenly Host, but is usually depicted as Satan himself. Now this is unusual for a writer to depict an entity and order as evil itself. But Blake disparaged the arrogance and absolutism of Enlightenment thinking, seeing it as an attempt to imprison humanity through stifling orthodoxy. Urizen is a tyrant that is prone to exaggerating his importance. And this is relevant to 40K because Lorgar's original sin was his attempt to create a religious cult with his father as God. The Emporer rebuked him, because it would have remolded him into abstract, and tyrannical figure presiding over stagnation, which was already an issue with the Imperium even then. Lorgar's sin wasn't believing that Chaos could coexist with order, but rather that order as exemplified by the Emporer was dominant. By remodeling the Emporer (a warp entity shaped by human imagination) as a named God, Lorgar was actually creating an evil greater than Chaos. 😂

Too be fair Lorgar is wrong about a lot of sh!t

Being opinionated about a Primarch's understanding of pretty much anything carries a certain weight of arrogance about it. Not sure what you mean by he's wrong though, seems to me he understands Chaos pretty well, likely far better than most in the setting, especially now that he basically is Chaos, or more specifically an arm of it, as Chaos is basically made up of everything else existing to begin with.

Faith in God is literally the only thing keeping the Imperium from collapsing.

Chaos is based. And Lorgar was right.

Chaos needed in the words of Lenin - “a useful idiot”.

He was correct about Man needing faith, as faith in the Emperor is the only thing keeping Man alive. He was dead wrong about everything else.