To quote the Super Mario Wiki: "In Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, if Mario and Luigi knock out a Shroobsworth, Intern Shroobs can resurrect their fallen master with their own 1-Up Mushrooms," so yes, the villains do sometimes use 1-Ups. One could argue that the reason Bowser is consistently able to survive getting thrown in lava, blown up, thrown into black holes, literally turning into a skeleton, etc. could be because he uses 1-Up Mushrooms. Though to be fair, the canonicity of the Mario & Luigi games IN GENERAL when compared to the main series is questionable.

My headcanon is that the Super Crown is something Toadette only uses in times of great need, and tries to keep it secret from other people (hence her intentionally talking differently, and conveniently taking it off when she rescues Peach to prevent her from asking too many questions), like a superhero alter ego.

Why did Bobby die from blowing up when paper mario bombs are established to be just fine from blowing up?

What if there's time travel involved with DK 1981? Either Cranky and DK Jr time travelled to the future, or Mario and Pauline time travelled to the past. I would go with Cranky and DK Jr time travelling to the future as Mario and Pauline were together at the time. It explains why Modern DK is a star child at the same time as Mario since Kamek says the SC fell during the time period of Bowser to Yoshi and deconfirming any time travel and also why Mario is young while Cranky is old. Either that, or Modern DK is DK Jr

Dang the got some dance moves right that ngl

Maybe 1-Up mushrooms are fairy-like entities that try to only show themselves to the pure hearted, or at least heroes. That's why they are hidden in invisible blocks etc, and would explain why evil people usually don't have them. They're kinda like 4 leaf clovers , where only certain people can have the knack for finding them.

Awesome niche thought exercise. It's important to me that lore-compatible items are appreciated by weeding out nonsensical ones.

I want to address a few arguments regarding the Super Crown. For the Captain Toad Treasure Tracker DLC , I'd argue despite what is shown, it doesn't matter. Appearing in another story or game doesn't counter the point as shown by the p-wing. As for the point "Toadette found it, so only she can use it," that doesn't comply with the consistency of any other power up in the verse. That also wouldn't explain why, all of a sudden, multiple of them can be found if it's supposedly "rare". The Super Crown defies the consistency of how power ups work. Toadette, the ONLY person who can use it, is a part of the Toad species, who have been shown to be able to use nearly any power up in the franchise so far. Then you have the Super Crown, which doesn't give you powers based on the generalization of a certain species like others of its type, for example, the Penguin Suit, Super Leaf, Super Bell, etc., instead it grants Toadette the powers of one specific person, that being Peach, who's powers granted are based off of her own powers, alongside powers she don't have, which aren't specific to her species. As for Toadette being the only one who is able to use it, the only explanation as to why this is the case is because "Nintendo said so." The only reason as to why this power up contradicts the logic of all others is simply because Nintendo said so. (Keep in mind, this was only on the North American version of the site, in which all of the extra details are no longer present.) Ignore what Nintendo is telling you for a minute. Could you then provide an argument as to why in-universe, there is a power up based specifically on Peach or why Toadette is the only person who can use it, despite the fact that multiple can be found around the Mushroom Kingdom fairly easily when it's supposed to "be rare?" What they say would also fall under “Death of the Author.” Why should you have to rely on their word for an answer? Different authorities of Nintendo don’t have a consistent interpretation on aspects of the verse, such as whether or not Mario and Luigi have a last name, or Toad genders to name a few, even if it’s the same person. What Nintendo gave you was an excuse to keep you from asking questions, because they themselves can't answer these questions, nor do they want you asking them. I understand that some people may not believe this when it comes to Mario, but every piece of work has consistency, even if at times it seems like it doesn’t. I believe narrative consistency is important above all else when it comes to interpreting a work. Because of that, there is no reality in which I can view this power up as anything other than an excuse to have Peach playable in a game where she logically can’t be. I didn’t add this in the video because I didn’t think it was a very viable point, but I’ll put it here: The person that directed New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe is Shiro Mouri, the same person who directed Super Mario Bros Wonder, who stated the only reason why Daisy was added to the game was to keep his daughters from fighting over who got to play as Peach. Do with that what you will. Thinking about it now, that’s probably where “Peachette” gets her double jump from. I didn’t think of a few of the arguing points against the Super Crown until after the video came out and now, I kind of feel like a part of the video is missing, but these things happen. Tell me your thoughts!

Lets remember that at the end of Mario Galaxy Rosalina recreates the entire universe so when Egadd sent Gooigi back in time he may have sent him to the old universe's past somehow. When Rosalina recreated the universe she may have altered to past to recon certain things like Mario being from New Donk City rather than Brooklyn.

She’s 15

damn... I wanna go to town on Ashley so bad. 🥵🥵🥵

5:05 kawaiiii

Does “15 going on 500” really suggest “specifically 15”? That line, and another you quoted, gave me the impression of “she is eternally as if a teenager”? So like, “she might be chronologically e.g. 400, but in terms of both emotional and physical development, it is as if she were 15 (or she might by coincidence be literally 15, but if so she will be pretty much the same 400 years from now)”.

[0:17] *5, given Mario’s comes from Nintendo Power, a non-canonical source. The Nintendo Switch Online video also clearly doesn’t show the characters’ legitimate birthdays (in fact that dates shown contradict each other between scenes). Mario’s height of ~154 centimetres is also confirmed in Super Mario Odyssey, which uses metres as measurements in Luigi’s Balloon World. [0:42] This is only the case in the English release. The Japanese version keeps the ages. Non-Japanese websites never provide canonical information, unlike Japanese sites which are actually written by the developers. It’s the same as with English localisations of any given game featuring contradictions due to decisions made outside of the original developers’ intent. I don’t think we really have any solid evidence to suggest what her age is aside from “young”.

Time for more peak!

I know why you made this video 🫵😐

Underrated

the one up could just be very rare and expensive

I always thought the one ups wouldn’t work if it was turkey your time

I'm so glad your channel exist, I've played most of the games listed here and put two-and-two together. Really well researched video mate. Mario lore is underated

Bowser jr uses 1-up mushrooms in paper jam

the shroob princess has like four phases of her fight, logically those are her lives same with dimentio, its abstracted through the battle.

15:48 I'd argue those caps (and crown) are actually not the same as the ones the bros (and peach) wear and that in actuality they'd be put in the same boat as those invincibility variants of the normal power ups, except with no timer but being just as rare a find, perhaps they could have been especially made by either peach or bowser and they discontinued production after the events of the game (likely bowser would stop seeing as his minions for whatever reason can't use them and a mere yoshi caused him so much trouble with it instead...)

Counter argument to 1-ups existing. in the rpgs, the character has to consume the 1-up for it to revive them. in M&L, the other brother can feed it to them and they can be revived, and since enemies explode into stars at the end of battles, that explains why they cant. in paper jam, one of the bosses actually take advantage of this, as with the bowser jr.s, they revive each other with 1-ups since the battle doesn't end unless they're both taken out.

I don't feel like the argument for the 1-up to not be real works because life shrooms exist in the Paper Mario games, and those also could of been used.

Nintendo needs to get rid of the Super Crown!

what if every character has 1ups but we just don't see them respawn because like if we did see them recovered, we'd go back a few seconds because they spawn in before they die like how mario does when uuu arrr playinggg

I think 1-ups definitely exist. In normal context, they’re super difficult to come across naturally, which would explain why many would not be aware of their existence. In the context of the M&L games, all they do is heal someone downed, not saving them from death, which I think here they’re just a gimmick. I GUARANTEE mainline bowser has a ton of lives considering how often he gets killed and then appears fine, especially in the NSMB games, but he literally dies a total of 5 times in the M&L verse and has to be manually brought back to life by M&L/his body cause multiple lives don’t exist there only place see I them not actually being present and being a gimmick is the poplin shops in Mario wonder

Thinking about the Mario canon is an endeavor that will either drive you insane or be the most fun thing ever and that all depends on how much whimsy exists in your heart

For the 1-Up, Game Theory had a shorts, There’s art that a 1-Up mushroom sprouts from a dead Mario. But that’s the way it connects to the player who’s playing, since every time the character you’re playing as dies, they’re getting better, so as the 1-Up Mushrooms help a future Mario out, the player is helping their future self out by practicing.

3:56 Oh that would’ve been busted.

I like to think that the SM64DS power ups don’t exist because SM64DS is a dream Yoshi had

What if baby DK is cranky and the Kongs just mature too fast and out of nowhere? I mean, that's been seen with Tiny Kong and DK JR himself who was already an adult by Super Mario Kart. They possibly mature at 2-3 years and live a long life as adults in their prime (possibly until 25-26) and then age out of nowhere in the same way they mature. If this is the case it would mean that for DK (1981) Cranky would be 25 years old and Jr 2 , dk (1994) should be shortly after this game and finally for Super Mario Kart JR it would have already reached maturity and Cranky He would be old, at some point in this the modern DK would have been born and he would currently be about 3-4 years old, makes sense in my opinion. although the truth is that they clearly weren't thinking about what they did when they created Baby DK.

I don't think Daisy and Luigi are Mona's parents but here's a theory, maybe Daisy revoked her title and turned Sarassaland into a democracy to retire in Diamond City with Luigi.

A video I wouldn't think I would ever see or enjoy , but I guess I was wrong lmao , good job on the vid

Wait it’s in that game? 1:53

I think the Invincibility Mushroom being proven to be apart of the universe alone proves that other permanent invincibility like the Invincibility Leaf and Bell do indeed exist in the universe and aren’t just game mechanics. I say this simply because Nintendo has even made merchandise like action figures and plushes of White Tanooki Mario. As for your question as to why Movie Bowser didn’t try looking for one of these if they do truly exist in the universe, there are two simple answers: the movie is a different continuity meaning that the permanent invincibility power-ups don’t exist in the movieverse or they do exist in the movieverse as well, but Bowser simply didn’t know of their existence at that point.

9:28 They’re both canon. 64 DS could easily be seen as a semi sequel to the original.

maybe one-ups only work for select species?

For the RPG bosses and 1ups, it could be that their disproportionately high HP totals are a result of you burning through all their extra lives. They don't _really_ have thousands of HP, just low hundreds and a good stockpile of extra lives.

You forgot to mention the P acorn for the invincibility powerups

The weirdest thing about the 1UP is it breaks its own rules Using the example from super paper mario, when someone dies and has no extra lives they go to the underwhere or overthere Yet the entire mario and luigi series contradicts this As when a bro dies, you give them a 1 up and they come back to life If we followed normal logic theyd have to already have an extra life or theyd go to the underwhere or overthere, so they wouldnt just be laying there dead As in every other game, when you die you fall offscreen or the screen fades out And if you could be brought back to life via 1up you think someone wouldve mentioned that by now Take huey from color splash for example Huey died from absorbing the paint Abd considering he didnt already have a 1 up, if 1 ups could ressurect people like in mario and luigi, why wouldnt mario go find a 1 up and give it to huey?

The size problems of both this theory and Wonder can be explained by the height changes caused by the Super Mushrooms.

I don't know if any one mentioned this already but you kind of sound like Carlito

I didn't know about Peachette clearing her throat after slipping back into the Toadette voice that's really cute actually

why so underrated

Yeah, pretty sure this holds! A one-timeline model with dynamic time where changes made in the past carry forward and cause the old timeline to "blend" into the new while leaving little ripples of the old like the knowledge that a memory had not always been a certain way explains the time travel we see very well. There are also some interesting elements that weren't touched on here that I'd like to talk about. For example, changes to the past seem to "wait" until they are "resolved" to take effect in the present. Take how E. Gadd witnessing something is irreversible so it carries forward, but the Shroob invasion as a whole *didn't* ripple into the present, meaning this is sort of a magic, vaguely "intelligent" model of time that can by some means separate out which changes are and are not final. Personally, I suspect that the time travel system observed in Mario is actually *incapable* of causing paradoxes, and that attempting to create a change that would interfere with itself/make itself impossible in the new future would either simply refuse to carry forward and have any impact on the present at all since they cannot ever resolve, or simply become "orphaned" as a causeless event from the perspective of the resultant version of the timeline even though it still had a cause in meta-time from the old version, and just got buried. Now, did they think through the exact mechanics of paradox and meta-time? I'm not sure, but as you've shown, they do demonstrate a consistent one-dynamic-timeline model, and they do show that alterations to the present caused by changes to the past occur over real time, which can only happen if there is some other dimensionality of time over which the effects of time travel itself happen. See also the Mario Kart 8 trophy in the Bros.' house in the Superstar Saga remake, a game which necessarily must occur before Mario Kart 8, meaning the trophy must have been won by the *baby* Bros. and then sent back to the past with them. Basically, I think Nintendo may not have considered *every* implication, but I think they certainly considered enough for it to be a consistent and coherent picture. Which is more than can be said for most time travel media, let's be honest. Re: the cameo, the Shroob Princesses being there is a little goofy, but if we figure that the soul was composed of spores and Bowser still had some in him, and the past Bowser and Kamek scooped up some Shroob leftovers including the KO'd younger princess and froze them, then in theory they could just be resilient enough to eventually heal and reconstitute for freezing.

Interestingly enough Mario Maker is regarded to partially be canon if not entirely canon, pick your poison on that. At least the story mode. While I get the logic behind the kart and party games they do still have similar effects like the Party and Kart Mega Mushrooms. And ones like Candies have actual power-up effects. Some of the RPG items count as Power-ups such as the Copy Flower and Mix Flower. Well if I am correct the P-Wing is an item gifted to Mario in SMB3, but also we do know extra lives and game overs are a canon thing in the Mario world, so the P-Wing could indeed show up in universe under those circumstances. Same with the Super Leaf. The Movieverse is still different from the Gameverse. The Flutter Wings and Invincibility Wings while not canonically used still would exist because Mr. Pipe aka Mario would probably still have it in his arsenal. I think SM64 and SM64DS are both canon and 2 separate events due various details like Koopa the Quick refering to having raced Mario before. The caps, feather, and flower are all canon. The thing is you can't always find power-ups they have varying rarity and the Toads are shown to be extreme cowards. They don't need a caps to fight back against Bowser as seen in Toad, Yellow Toad, and Blue Toad. The Super Crown is a canon power-up with the website and other sources stating it can only be used by Toadette. And it is canonically found and brought back to the Mushroom Kingdom by Toadette and Captain Toad. Also, Nabbit and Toadette still canonically travel with the Bros. as seen in NSMBUD and SMBW. Similar to how Luigi travels with Mario in games like NSMBDS and SMB even if not seen on screen. The thing is 1-Up Mushrooms are acknowledged in universe by the characters to be a thing even outside of Super Paper Mario. I don't think 1-Up Mushrooms stop aging, let alone are common in the Kong Archipelago. Don't know much about Phantasma. Fawful, it does beg the question how common are 1-ups usually (But also the Dark Star is involved)? Same goes for Cackletta mostly. Note, it's probably an oversight. Dimentio, would they even know where to get one?(Also, they were dabbling with the Chaos Heart.) Would the aliens that are the Shroobs have known about it? But even so we know the Princesses survive regardless.

What aboud Captain Toad DLC where they find Super Crown?

16:50 Paper Mario isn't relevant because it's a different universe so the Minus World thing might be Paperverse exclusive until proven otherwise