At 6:48 I made a massive mistake. The "mansion" Luigi has in Dark Moon better resembles the Rank D Mansion from the original Luigi's Mansion, not the Rank F. I don't know how I let that slide. At this rate, I'm going to have to make a compilation of my blunders in the future.
@nessdbest87084 ай бұрын
Can't wait!
@usuariodoyoutube47184 ай бұрын
very cool video, but i think Daisy could just pick a different sucessor rather than forcing her daughter to become a princess. I can see Peach trying to at least convince a hypothetical child, but Daisy really seems less strict about it
@justinc.55915 ай бұрын
Yeah, those diary entries make it pretty definitive that Mona’s father can’t be Luigi. I used to entertain this theory but you definitely convinced me it’s not true.
@Devilot1094 ай бұрын
Diary entries?
@AlonzoTompkins4 ай бұрын
I know Wario is immortal but there is literally no hints that WarioWare takes place in the far future. So yeah, I never believed this.
@cad48714 ай бұрын
Regarding Orbulon, he ages eighteen years between games, so he's probably not using Earth years for his measurements. After all, it seems he's still a child by his species' standards, given the size of his father and of the Voice from Above-- his home planet's years are just really fast.
@AlanDSi4 ай бұрын
Maybe they are just equivalents, sharing similarities in spirit, like all the characters that teach Mario & Luigi Bro actions in the RPGs.
@Vic_v._Gerdenheim4 ай бұрын
I've been an avid LuigixDaisy shipper since I can remember, so when Get It Together came out, I saw Mona's cutscene and immediately thought it was too good to be a coincidence. The mansion and tiki statues were, in my mind, further references to this theory. However, the idea that WarioWare took place in the future with a seemingly un-aging Wario seemed to poke critically damaging holes in the theory. I was unaware of the diary entries (and, for that matter, the entire original Made In Wario website) until this video; I suspect a lot of western fans are in the same boat. You've made a lot of good points in this video, enough to convince even my stubborn self. Still, I can't help but be a little disappointed.
@lonedivider4 ай бұрын
Sorry for your disappointment. You'd be surprised by the amount of hidden lore in the Japanese WarioWare websites, so it's no shock that a lot of us westerners don't know about them. Even the Mario Wiki has some information that came from these websites incorrect. I'm working on translating them and making videos on them in the future if you'd be interested.
@Vic_v._Gerdenheim4 ай бұрын
@@lonedivider Thanks for the reply. Maybe "disappointed" is the wrong word. I get that Nintendo wouldn't prioritize relationships between their characters (unless you're in a Zelda game, of course), but I, and many other fans, would take what we can get. The Mario series is enough of a chronological nightmare without even considering future timelines. I appreciate your dedication to unraveling it all.
@RedTHedge4 ай бұрын
Luigi and Daisy is definitely canon, almost possibly more than Mario and Peach. This theory just says Mona isn't their daughter.
@aylenpons66824 ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind Luigi and Daisy becoming a couple definitelly some day... But why it HAS to be like that for some of the fandom?? Like, they are obviously friends and like each other but they are not condemned to be like Mario and Peach. I dont see how that enrichs anything unless they suddenly came with a lil plot for it.
@ivanzoneBR244 ай бұрын
One thing I just noticed is that WarioWare is canon to the mainline Mario games, Cractus, a boss from Wario Land 4 appeared in Move It, and since Mario himself appeared in the first Wario Land game, it truly connects them all together. The Nintendo microgames are simply a meta joke that has nothing to do with the Mario series canon.
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
True, but meta stuff that occurs does have an effect on the world itself. Like when it gives some world building when referencing past events but using the names of games to refer to them. Or possibly when it comes to those characters in PM64 and TTYD saying they are going to write a book about Mario. Some outfits but especially the bizarreness that is Pixel Mario.
@seandwalsh34 ай бұрын
The Nintendo Microgames exist in-universe, just as Nintendo as a company does. It’s mentioned in several Mario games. WarioWare has always been connected to other Mario games. Some examples: - Dr. Crygor made the Wario Car from Wario Land 4 and Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - There’s the Diamond City track in Mario Kart Arcade GP but also the Wario Bike appears in Mario Kart Wii. - A picture of the Golden Pyramid from Wario Land 4 and the Music Box world from Wario Land 3 both appear in Wario’s house WarioWare: Twisted! - Wario’s treasure-hunting adventures are mentioned by Mona. - The WarioWare logo and Wario’s Biker outfit appear in various Mario games. - Wario World is stated to be a direct sequel to WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!, where Wario built the castle using his funds from the game sales. Some Microgames are also unlockables in Wario World as a result. It’s really cool how it all connects!
@lonedivider4 ай бұрын
Wario's final diary entry on the Made in Wario website also mentions a secret castle he was working on, hinting at Wario World before its release.
@seandwalsh34 ай бұрын
@@lonedivider yup, exactly! That’s what I was referencing. iirc he says there’s no Internet or electricity or something there so that’s why he stops his diary.
@legoboy71074 ай бұрын
@@seandwalsh3 Wait, if the WarioWorld castle is a new castle he built from the WarioWare money, what happened to his castle on Kitchen Island that he got at the end of Mario Land 3 and that he still has in Wario Land 2? That's not the same castle?
@snookerdooker4714 ай бұрын
Yeah well the only canon kid Luigi has is yoshi and that is the hill that I will die on.
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
That's the SuperShowverse, the Gameverse Yoshi is just a few years younger than Luigi.
@bewearstar94624 ай бұрын
That's a mama Luigi to you Mario.
@viviennemorgan72174 ай бұрын
yoshi's a dinosaur.
@patrickquinones25334 ай бұрын
luigi is the type of guy to wait till marigage (the guy i admire) but daisy cant wait and if we thick canonicly luigi would somehow conven her to wait but she would know she would do this and buy a ring in advace leading to luigi to quetion what to one
@RTB-x2fАй бұрын
The size problems of both this theory and Wonder can be explained by the height changes caused by the Super Mushrooms.
@ArendAlphaEagle4 ай бұрын
First there's that game theory on Rosalina being the daughter of Luigi and Peach, now we have a theory on Mona being the daughter of Luigi snd Daisy. What's up with that?
@lonedivider4 ай бұрын
I don't know what basis people have for that Rosalina one, I've never seen the video. As for Mona, there is some plausible evidence through the right lens, so I can see where people are coming from.
@orsonzedd4 ай бұрын
@@lonedividerthere's a mattpat video and it makes me think "neat"
@extremmefan73054 ай бұрын
Luigi pulled a Rex from Xenoblade 2. /j (It doesn't help that the Super Luigi books in TTYD imply an ending where Luigi supposedly marries Princess Eclair as well, though not directly STATING it)
@ArendAlphaEagle4 ай бұрын
@@extremmefan7305 Funnily enough, I kiiiinda see Rosalina as more of a secondary squeeze of Luigi (Daisy will always take priority here), rather than his daughter; similar to how I see Pauline as Mario's secondary squeeze. I blame the Wii Message Board picture you get after completing Mario Galaxy as Luigi.
@legoboy71074 ай бұрын
@@lonedivider I don't know, from what I remember the evidence is just "Rosalina is tall and Luigi is tall, Rosalina looks like Peach and was initially planned to be related [even though the devs explicitly scrapped that idea], Rosalina is shown to come from a planet with a castle that looks kinda like Peach's castle [I guess], and beating the game as Luigi gives you a Wii Message Board photo showing Luigi and Rosalina near Peach's castle with the Toad Brigade," that's...kinda it I think. Which is really not much at all lol.
@blastygamez4 ай бұрын
People responsible in the dev team may not have that much eye for detail and may have put it as a non-canon easter egg? Idk Wario also appears to be pretty young but idk
@bewearstar94624 ай бұрын
I believe mario and wario are confirmed to be the same age I think
@koltvienzzaichard73074 ай бұрын
I'm Wario's Father, and I love eating Mushroom and Jumping on Goombas and Koopas, Wahooo!!
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
Indeed Geno is not connected to Rosalina, he's connected to the Star Spirits. I do think the heights are consistent throughout games. I believe in the 3D games characters like Peach and Mario are in their small forms since neither have eaten a Super Mushroom. This is why Bowser Junior is so much bigger than Peach in Galaxy, that's small Peach. If you compare Super Mario to a Goomba he's bigger than them, but if you compare Small Mario to the Goomba's he's relatively around the same height. Now if you take then into account and look at Mario in the 3D games Mario is roughly around the size of Goombas. I actually made my own height chart of this for various Mario characters using Goombas and Mario as the basis, and side by side comparisons of characters from throughout various games to see if it matched up, and it does. Also, the Mario + Rabbids games are not canon to the games and we know Bowser can often change his size probably using magic to do it, but he does have a default size. The mustache is also brown instead of black. Doesn't the WarioWare series take place outside of the Mushroom Kingdom while Luigi's Mansion takes place inside the Mushroom Kingdom. While we know Mario and Luigi have had several jobs over the years, their main and continued profession has always been plumbing. I wouldn't take everything Miyamoto says as useful for lore. I think it would be better to use the Dr. Mario manual for that. Wario and Mario wouldn't be enemies at this time but rivals, but overall are on good terms for the most part. E Gadd does play a part in said Mario Kart game, and we know the various Mario Kart races are events various places take part in. I can confirm the diary entries are indeed canon. All those remarks aside, good video.
@ivanzoneBR244 ай бұрын
The Luigis Mansion series doesn't take place in the Mushroom Kingdom, well I know Evershade Valley and The Last Resort doesn't. They are very far away from the Mushroom Kingdom.
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
@@ivanzoneBR24 I did just say Luigi's Mansion might as speak on this now bleh. Also I should have been more specific, my question was isn't Diamond City outside of the Mushroom Kingdom. But I was actually asking if it took place on the Mushroom Continent. While there is the Mushroom Kingdom and areas under it, there are other locations on this continent not under Peach's control. As for what you were saying aside from referring to the first game, I was specifically referring to Luigi's New Mansion the location from the first game. The first game takes place in Boo Woods which is within walking distance of the Mushroom Kingdom as we see Luigi walking there with a map. As for the Last Resort while we don't know the distance we know E. Gadd and Luigi and Co. were all able to get there by driving. This would mean it's on the same Continent, otherwise they would have used a boat or plane. As for Evershade Valley well have a few reason why I think this would also be on the same continent. First off is E. Gadd, we never really see him outside of the Mushroom Continent. We've only ever seen in him places like the Bean Bean Kingdom, Thwomp Volcano, the Koopa Kingdom, and Boo Woods. All place on this one continent. The only time he might venture out of it is to aid in karting events. As for King Boo, we've only ever seen him operate inside the Mushroom continent and specifically in areas that Bowser and Peach have control over, with places like Boo Woods being debatable if anyone controls that. The only time King Boo has ventured outside of the Mushroom Continent or the general areas was when Bowser had scheme like in Super Mario Wonder and Super Princess Peach. Or when there has been karting events, outside of that he seems to stay in the general area.
@legoboy71074 ай бұрын
You're right that Mario in the 3D Mario games is actually in the same form as "Small Mario" in the 2D games. Mario 64 DS is an example proving this, for instance, as 64 DS DOES have a Super Mushroom in it. Collecting it makes Mario bigger and stronger for a bit and it's specifically shown and said to be a Super Mushroom. People sometimes mistakenly call it the Mega Mushroom but that's incorrect not just because of its appearance (and how it doesn't make Mario THAT big) and name but because the Mega Mushroom didn't exist yet as NSMB wouldn't be made until after 64 DS. The Super Mushroom's implementation in 64 DS definitely inspired the Mega Mushroom, but it's still supposed to be the Super Mushroom. The reason it functions differently from the 2D games with it being on a timer and not making Mario exactly double in size is just because of how vastly differently Mario 64 (and similar 3D Marios like Sunshine, Galaxy, or Odyssey) works from 2D Mario mechanically, including with power-ups, where power-ups are all short timed things unlike in the 2D games (this is the exact same reason why the Fire Flower is timed in Galaxy and also isn't like its 2D counterpart, it's still following the Mario 64 design of things). So just like Galaxy's Fire Flower implementation, the Super Mushroom in 64 DS is a Mario 64-style implementation of the power-up, taking the general concept of "Mario gets bigger and can break stuff like bricks" that it has in 2D Mario but implementing it in a very different way that matches Mario 64's design more. It just gets confusing because, I guess for branding reasons, Nintendo uses the same character design for both Normal Mario in the 3D games and Super Mario in the 2D games, making Super Mario look normal while Small Mario looks different.
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
@@legoboy7107I actually have a hypothesis there are different species of Mushrooms or at least subspecies. For example I think Super Mushroom have several species that look similar but have different effects. One makes you big until you get hit, one heals you, and one makes you a bit bigger than normal and acts like a Mega Mushroom. Also, Mega and Mini Mushrooms were introduced in Mario Party and had a different design. Another example is the Fire Flower in one game that changes one's outfit and makes their clothing color change and lasts until they get hit, another lasts for a certain amount of time changes outfit color, another doesn't change outfit color and lasts for a certain amount of time, and another changes outfit color and lasts for a certain amount of time.
@seandwalsh34 ай бұрын
Great video! This theory has been incredibly annoying for the last few years but you’ve done an excellent job debunking it here. Do you speak Japanese? I’ve seen translations of some of the blogs but some still haven’t been translated and it’s a bit difficult to navigate them when the translations are all on obscure tumblr pages. Looking forward to seeing you cover more of them, because there’s some excellent lore in there - some of which the new WarioWare site brings back. I do have a couple of small corrections or thoughts. On Luigi’s NEW Mansion, it’s actually Rank D Mansion that Luigi has in Luigi’s Mansion 2. A model resembling the Rank A mansion also appears on Luigi Circuit in Mario Kart: Double Dash!! though it isn’t an exact match and is probably just a prop rather than Luigi’s actual home. I personally don’t think Wario hates Mario, hence them hanging out all the time, but he does find Mario’s attitude annoying and complains about him to his friends given they are rivals. I’d suggest his opinion on Mario swings depending on the scenario. Wario is actually shown in his overalls at the beginning of WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! when he’s relaxing at home. He only puts on his biker outfit when he actually goes for a ride. The Geno doll in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga is just a doll, not the Star, which is being puppeteered by the Star ‘Stache Smash arcade machine (you can see the stick it’s attached to). The Blocks in Woohoo Hooniversity are actually blocks being researched by the Beanish, which they are likely trying to replicate the technology of. They’re stated to be prototypes. I wouldn’t say the mentions of game titles are in-universe, instead being mini fourth wall breaks for the sake of the player, though if they were in-universe this is explainable by Nintendo making popular games based on those events. In Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door a Toad kid in Petalburg literally mentions bearing Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door before the player does, so how that works I have no idea. “Mario Sunshine” is also mentioned on FLUDD’s scan at the beginning of Super Mario Sunshine, as the latest game in a timeline of other game titles. It’s also probably less of a floating timeline and more that Nintendo just pumps out games and consoles super quickly in this universe. Minor point but Bowser Jr. hasn’t developed any technology, he just pilots it. The technology is likely produced in Bowser’s factories or random other factions depending on the instance. Of course, this technology still exists and Fawful and E. Gadd do have their inventions, thus your point still holds true. I also don’t really see the issue with Professor E. Gadd in Diamond City. He’s just got a single shop there and Crygor lives out on his island, it would be hard for a course in the city to show it. Most of the course has you driving through the WarioWare, Inc. building and there’s also Diamond Taxi and the Gelateria. In fact, if you look at it from above you can see that it lines up almost exactly with Diamond City from WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! What’s more is that it just has fun implications. Are E. Gadd and Crygor old buddies? Bitter rivals? How does Dr. Crygor feel about the Professor opening an Item Shop on his turf? Maybe E. Gadd grew up in Diamond City given he’s human. It also just makes WarioWare feel a bit more connected to the greater Mario World. We also see a shop called Monte Mart (Monte being the Japanese name for Pianta) with Palm Trees on the roof. It’s neat to imagine some Piantas live in Diamond City too, just off-screen. Anyway, that’s all I have to say - once again well done! Very good argument and very well researched!
@galaxygerm10374 ай бұрын
E Gadd having a shop in Diamond City is silly when u consider he also has a coffee shop in Beanbean too. Is he using these shops to fund his ghost research (and also the time machine that one time)? Also glad to someone else amused by the implications of E gadd having a shop in diamond city. I wanna know how he’d react to Ashley,,, like. Witches r ateast somewhat supernatural. Hed def be fascinated by that kinda magic.
@seandwalsh34 ай бұрын
@@galaxygerm1037there’s a Starbeans in the Diamond City track too, right across the road from his Item Shop, and in Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser he confirms that he set those up to fund his research, so that’s probably why, yeah!
@redstreak94304 ай бұрын
11:23 well, that’s not ENTIRELY true as we do see him in his classic outfit in the opening of the original game Mega Microgames
@monstrasmakacorestompy4 ай бұрын
in the thumbnail, mona's parents are luigi and daisy: mario characters
@jtothepmoreno10105 ай бұрын
Even though it’s not true- it’s still fun to imagine- so I just ask to not rain on others parade and have fun with making theories
@lonedivider5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I more so played up my reaction for laughs, but I do see how my final comment can come off as a bit strong. I'm glad you like video though.
@ViperousVT4 ай бұрын
6:41 I like to counter argue in Mario Kart double Dash Luigi's Cricut you can see Luigi's mansion with the best ending in the background believe what you want it's a possibility there are Multilabel timelines
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
We do know buildings and other places can often undergo restructuring for various events, or have to be rebuilt. Events can be for karting events and sports events, and being rebuilt is because well you know the whole battles with a giant turtle. It is possible Luigi had upgraded it overtime, we don't know exactly when Double Dash takes place relative to Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon. In addition the Mansion could be a separate one built for the event. We do see the original Boo created Mansion in Mario Kart as well. As for multiple timelines, unlikely there is just one Mario and most games are connected. In addition there aren't timeline splits given the whole timeline changes when you alter the past established in Partners in Time.
@nicholassims98374 ай бұрын
If the Mario 2023 movie gets a sequel and if they add Wario . Do you think there make him much more sympathetic like explain why hes so greedy ?
@Jethcon4 ай бұрын
i hope not
@nicholassims98374 ай бұрын
@@Jethcon why do you hope not ?
@KairanFarr27 күн бұрын
I like the idea of Wario being the equivalent of a mercenary. Wario probably prefers the villain side, but if he gets paid enough he will do what he's told.
@MarkiplierMeatMuncher85 ай бұрын
I always hated this theory, glad you made a video about it! And this quickly, too
@lonedivider5 ай бұрын
Glad you like it! Hopefully, the next video won't take as long. I had a few setbacks, so let's wish for smooth sailing and hope I didn't piss Geno so it can be granted...
@viviennemorgan72174 ай бұрын
luigi has a black moustache and blue eyes, while daisy has a orange crown and has daisy earrings.
@viviennemorgan72174 ай бұрын
but them being mona's parents doesn't make any sense at all.
@jumpmananimatic41665 ай бұрын
How do you have under 100 subscribers your content is so 🔥
@lonedivider5 ай бұрын
@jumpmananimatic4166 Thanks! I might as well say I'm "just getting started" as a channel, so hopefully I get there and beyond soon!
@kaycee77384 ай бұрын
ConeyZzz is crying in the corner right now
@adilhossain81984 ай бұрын
6:48 that seems more like D/E Rank
@lonedivider4 ай бұрын
D. At this rate, I'm going to have to make a compilation of my blunders in the future. I have no idea how I messed that up going over the script or while grabbing images.
@springtrapstarwar55574 ай бұрын
now that makes sense now, thanks for the information.
@instantlymeatified4 ай бұрын
Luigi was a painter in mario paint and mario artist
@BampotTheScot__4 ай бұрын
Let's also acknowledge the fact that the clock in mona's room,the hands point at 3:00, which looks like an L. But still, the theory is a bit of a stretch
@BlueMageWithSoulEdge4 ай бұрын
No, no I wouldn't call you crazy. I would call you a fan. Nintendo has a LOT of posers and tourist. This is dangerous because, as seen with early SEGA with Sonic, movies and most recently video games and the comic industry, posers snake in with the tourist and make demands. They trick the tourist into believing their lies to change things to what they want and then, like locus, they leave. This is absolutely needed by the fandom to keep it innocent. The theory sounds like it came from Reddit. This is my first time hearing it because I don't really play the Wario Ware series, but I am aware of how stupid Reddit usually is most of the time. Defending against the theory makes it seems as tho' the theorist didn't play any of the games, but saw a screen shot and fished for "credit points". Looking forward to your cover on Wario Ware. Good job.
@Max_The_FlowerАй бұрын
I don't think Daisy and Luigi are Mona's parents but here's a theory, maybe Daisy revoked her title and turned Sarassaland into a democracy to retire in Diamond City with Luigi.
@seanalailima59294 ай бұрын
Please cover Ordinos and Rosalina's relation sometime.
@lonedivider4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I don't know who Ordinos is. Can you elaborate?
@seanalailima59294 ай бұрын
@@lonedivider That relationship between Rosalina you made in this video.
@nicholassims98375 ай бұрын
whats your take that Wario is Mario's cousin theory ?
@lonedivider4 ай бұрын
@nicholassims9837 From what I could find, it's complete nonsense. The main source used is an old statement in a Nintendo Power Magazine, but consistently, they're stated to be childhood friends turned rivals. Though the rivalry is likely only on Wario's end.
@nicholassims98374 ай бұрын
@@lonedivider What about Wario and Waluigi being related to each other ?
@nicholassims98374 ай бұрын
Also have you thought of doing a character vs video between the Current DK and Wario as the 2 of a lot in common
@lonedivider4 ай бұрын
@nicholassims9837 I don't think the are. A majority of sources on there relationship state they aren't related. Though what is up for question is whether or not they're friends. It's a mix between them being two bad guys that happened to find each other and them being pals. And for clarification, do you mean character vs as in a vs battle or a character comparison? Either way, I'd do both.
@nicholassims98374 ай бұрын
@@lonedivider more of a character comparison and contrasting as Donkey Kong and Wario do have a few things in. Common such as starting out as a rival to Mario before getting there own game series Donkey Kong Country and Mario vs Donkey Kong for DK and Wario Land and Wario Ware for Wario and tv tropes gave them a few of the same tropes DKThe Big Guy: Shares this role with Wario whenever DK is in Mario's friend group, but not so much in the Kong family where that role belongs to Chunky. WarioThe Big Guy: When allied with Mario, he typically takes this role, sometimes sharing it with Donkey Kong DKA Hero To His Home Town: Since Donkey Kong Country, DK has been established as the guardian and hero of his Jungle Home, to the point where the Island he lives on is apparently named after him and even shaped like his head in the Rare-developed games. He's rarely seen without his supportive family members who look to him as their leader and has more than a few animal friends of varying species ready to help him on his adventures. In games set in the Mushroom Kingdom, however, he's usually treated neutrally or with outright fear going by the Toads' reaction to him in Mario vs. Donkey Kong, due to his mischief and rivalry with the heroic Mario. WarioA Hero to His Hometown: While most of the world considers him to be an Anti-Hero at best and a Card-Carrying Villain at worst, his hometown of Diamond City seems to have a much more charitable view of him thanks to the vast wealth and prosperity WarioWare Inc. brings to the community. He doesn't even need to lock his front door according to his A-Rank card in in WarioWare Gold
@zigaudrey4 ай бұрын
I know right? People will find anything to ship their favorite character for their own satisfaction and refuse canon source. Just like the end of 2018. History fuckin' repeat! Enough of that bullshit! 18:20 - 18:37 2:26 It is a background detail that doesn't contribute to the story. Leave it alone! 3:23 Yes! The height and not only! 3:55 Peach should be the tallest but no! 7:11 And this too! Even if I didn't remember it. 9:53 They make peace! But that just for laugh! 11:21 Seeing both different Wario from different Universe will be a joke headcanon. It is says that Wario is both an adventurer and game programmer. It's the same! 11:53 Don't mention that Loli Peach. Wish they didn't leak it. 17:41 The Irony is that WarioWare take more coverage than WarioLand. Like WTF?! 19:31 Aaw! Glad she talks to her mom, even if it is brief. (Japanese material are always specials)
@saintzeroinfinity4 ай бұрын
Who is Wario’s father?
@Skypatroller_BenCD4 ай бұрын
06:49 what about the mension that appeared in Mario Kart 4?
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
Mario Kart 4?
@Skypatroller_BenCD4 ай бұрын
@@Eris1987 the one on GameCube
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
@@Skypatroller_BenCDoh Double Dash. So there's a few ways I can see this being interpreted. One is Double Dash takes places after Dark Moon and Luigi decided to upgrade his mansion. But another way to see it is the one from Luigi's Circuit was built as a prop for the Circuit for the Mario Kart event.
@Skypatroller_BenCD4 ай бұрын
@Eris1987 I wouldn't make sense to place Mario Kart 4 after Luigi's Mansion 2 especially that Mario games doesn't have timeline shenanigans like this so for a Mario timeline it makes more sense to place the games in their release date
@Eris19874 ай бұрын
@@Skypatroller_BenCD while they don't have an official timeline, one can be figured out by references to past events, but also who shows up when and other details. I wouldn't necessarily rely on release dates, especially when some games could take place before others even if they were released after the fact. For example Bowser's Inside Story was released before Super Mario 3D Land. Super Mario 3D Land was released in 2011 and was the first time Bowser gave Goombas Super Leaves to fight Mario. Bowser Jr's Journey takes place during the events of Bowser's Inside Story, and was released in 2018. Bowser Jr's Journey has Big Tail Goombas aka Goombas powered up by the Super Leaf. This would place the events of Bowser's Inside Story after Super Mario 3D Land. Another example, the Mario Game N Watch games. Most of these game were released after Donkey Kong which was released in 1981. Wrecking Crew 1985 Donkey Kong Hockey 1984 Mario's Cement Factory 1983 Game n Watch Mario Bros 1983 Donkey Kong Circus 1984 These games while released after Donkey Kong probably took place before Donkey Kong. Donkey Kong Circus is obvious but what about the other games? Well the other games seem to not have taken place before the events of Donkey Kong but while Mario is still in Big Ape City obviously. But it seems there may have been a retcon on Mario being a Carpenter during Donkey Kong. There is implication of Miyamoto's part that Mario was already a plumber during the events of Donkey Kong. This does work since Mario and Luigi in the games have always been depicted as Construction Plumbers. So yeah I don't think using release dates is the best way to find out when certain games take place.
@mirai47384 ай бұрын
Still a better theory than Luigi and Peach are Rosalina's parents
@SergioLopez-eb6fz4 ай бұрын
What's ironic about that is the early concept of Mario galaxy included Luigi and peach as rosalina's parents. Of course Miyamoto shot that idea down. Koizumi still included the secret rosalina book at least.
@manstick644 ай бұрын
havent even watched the video and im wondering where the hell this came from update: i still disagree with this theory
@orsonzedd4 ай бұрын
Wario is Lulu's father
@lordenma44494 ай бұрын
Bruh did you saw where lulu lives at the beginning of wario ware gold That debunks the theory already
@orsonzedd4 ай бұрын
@@lordenma4449 You think Wario didn't put his kid up for adoption? He's not a good person.
@supermagma4 ай бұрын
wohrio
@glegboel83024 ай бұрын
Wait Luigi is the father of BOTH Rosalina AND Mona?!?! And he has TWO wives???
@polocatfan4 ай бұрын
I really don't wanna be rude, but I'm pretty sure you made this theory up.
@lonedivider4 ай бұрын
The theory's been around as long as Get It Together. That's where the main basis for it was formed.
@orsonzedd4 ай бұрын
Geno is connected to Rosalina because it would be cool and I want it