8:48 Not true. ALL electric DGG/Polydor recordings say so plainly on the label. If there is no mention of "Electrical Recording" or "Elektrische Aufnahme" on the label, chances are the recording is acoustic. DGG used electric and acoustic recording in parallel for more than two years, from March 1925 (first electrics) at least to autumn 1927 (last acoustics, by that time only with the portable equipment used for making field recordings in Southern Europe and Asia). In Berlin, during 1925 and 1926, many electric sides were repeated acoustically, in particular of larger orchestras that tended to overload and distort terribly with the Brunswick system. If the correct designation on the label is in doubt, look for the matrix numbers - if the letter suffix is either a single letter or begins with an "a", it's acoustic, while pairs of letters beginning with "b" or "B" are electric. When the Brunswick method was superseded by DGG's own, this was also always indicated on the labels by the word "Polyfar", often "Polyfar R" with R for "Raumton" or "hall ambience", these were discs recorded in concert halls, theatres or churches with the microphones placed at a distance.

THAT GRAMOPHONE HORN IS GIANT! very cool 👍

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Gilbert was my grandad. Percy his brother. Amazing video

Wow thats a big ass horn!

English translation is ....what ????? Can't understand ???😮

Wow i love Berta. Many congratulations!

Tragedy that that failed painter from Linz had to.come along and spoil it all.Schwein.

Spitze!

Some English subtitles would have been good.

Increíble

What an amazig sound !!!!!!

Incredibile....

Where's Sidney? I came here for Sidney

I don't care what era it was in the 21st century(Also 25 generations before). You always had white overseerers

4:10--for some odd reason early German jazz musicians found it extremely difficult to syncopate. Many still do, alarmingly.

Funny!

· Shared with Your friends kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ3NlYFjgbqCfc0...Sound on film 1929 TRI ERGON - Der verliebte Bimbambullaformiggini623 subscribersDer verliebte Bimbambulla (Bimbambulla)Foxtrot (M.May/Charles Amberg)Tanz-Orchester Géza Komor mit RefraingesangTri Ergon 5628-A/ 02750Berlin, c. August 1929THE TRI-ERGON LABELTri-Ergon is out of old greek and means "Work of (the) three"The recording process for this Label used early sound on film technic;That means that first the sound was cut on an film, than after possible editingtransferred to the phonograph/grammophon record.The inventors hoped to make a better sounding record. Before I came back to the Label, a lttle look back on early sound on film Talking Movie technic.In 1918 three german innovators had the Idea of recording sound directly on the film with light via a photo cell. The Tri-Ergon sound-on-film system was patented in 1919 by the inventors Josef Engl (1893-1942), Hans Vogt (1890-1979), and Joseph Massolle (1889-1957).On 17. September 1922 the three introduced in the Alhambra Theater/Berlin the first (short) talking movie with a sound track on the film. Almost half a year before Lee De Forest presented his Phonofilm in the USA! (De Forest improved the patents by Tri-Ergon and Eric Tigerstedt in Finland)In the lack of money, TriErgon sold their patents to the Tri-Ergon AG in Zürich/Swiss.The german cinema company UFA verifyed the chance of the new soundfilm. In Summer 1925 they sponsored a sound movie "Das Mädchen mit den Schwefelhölzern" (The Girl with the match). The film premiered in December 1925. But technical problems made it a disaster - the early loudspeaker system drop out, only loud row and noise came out of it.... the audience booed out the presentation. The UFA chanceled immediately all contracts, and passed the chance of Talking Movies! Again without money, Tri Ergon sold the patents to america. In 1926, William Fox of Fox Film Corporation purchased the U. S. rights to the Tri-Ergon patents from Tri-Ergon Aktiengesellschaft (Tri-Ergon AG), Zürich, Switzerland. Fox used these inventions to create the new sound-on-film system: Fox Movietone. One of the first feature films to be released in Fox Movietone was "Sunrise" (1927) directed by F. W. Murnau. Fox also used the system for the long-running newsreel series Fox Movietone News. To make it more complex, Fox also used patents and technic of the RCA photophone - and contrawise used RCA technics by Fox (actually Tri-Ergon)...To make some money at least the "Tri-Ergon Photo-Electro-Records" Label was established in 1927. The Tri-Ergon system used a special form of microphone without mechanical moving parts (Katodophone) for sound pickup and a special electric discharge tube for variable density film recording.I found in an old Broadcast magazine ("Bastelfunk", issue November 1929) an article with two photos about this record Label and system.With "Photo A" the sound on film equipment is shown. In the middle on the right you can see the film, aside this in the black tube is the photo cell transferring the electric impulse from the microphone into light . The article tells that the speed of the film is faster than normal, to improve sound quality - c. 70 shots per second instead the usual c. 25 shots.The whole "recording" equipment is the same as used by Engl, Vogt and Massolle for real sound films, but without the camera optic atop. In the last picture you can see the 1922 apparatus WITH the camera.In "Photo B" is the transmission to record equipment. On the left is the filmreel, the little white tube beyond is the photo cell and over that the projector.In the middle is the wax record. Notice that the record is upstanding!Right of the record matrix is the cutter. Behind all this is theSound amplifier. To improve sound quality, the re-recording procedure was slow downed in speed c. a 100 times. So the re-recording of a 4 min. record takes over 6 hours!!!By the whole process the engineers had to master some new problems that aren´t with the standard technic.For example the wax matrix is heated during recording process for good resultes. - No Problem if the process takes only c. 5 minutes, but what if this procedure needs 6 HOURS ?!?!.... and so on.There are also some other problems about the physic of frequency and electric, but this would really go very deep sciences....The Tri Ergon ProcessThe first was the ‘sound on film’ or Tri Ergon process.The First Movie Ever Made: Why and when films were invented 8The arrow on the left-hand side points to the audio track next to the visual framesMediavineInvented by Engl Josef, Massolle Joseph, and Hans Vogt in 1919, it translated sound waves into electrical pulses and then into light, allowing the sounds to be hardcoded directly onto the film next to the accompanying images.This eliminated the problem of soundtracks skipping, which produced a higher-quality product for consumers to enjoy.

how many db decibel highest ?

When I was a child my parents listened to this kind of music. I love it!

Wonderful historical artifact. I can see why the Nazis had a collective stroke over this sort of thing. Though I wonder how many of them secretly patronized the same club.

my favorite thing about these is that they require no electricity to function I find it an incredible achievement that this could be done, to be able to record and store sound and play music without any use of electricity

Could you play that record on a regular grammophone for reference? ^^

Ich wundere mich immer wieder, dass der Klang kein Stück trichtert: Keine ekligen Resonanzen, kein Blechklang, wenige Verzerrungen, großer Frequenzbereich, Bass(!!!). Das ist kein Trichter, das ist ein Monster, das dazu fähig ist, alles wiederzugeben, was auf der Schallplatte gespeichert ist. Schwer zu glauben, dass es gänzlich ohne Strom funktioniert - nur durch Aufziehen einer Kurbel :-). Ich finde es unglaublich, dass so eine dünne Rille rein akustisch derart verstärkt werden kann. Die meisten dieser tragbaren Designer-Bluetooth-Brüllwürfel, die heute jeder will, jeder hat, jeder benutzt und jeder als Maßstab für modernen Sound ansieht, erreichen die Qualität dieses Grammofons nicht! Der Trichter sieht zwar total scheiße aus, aber der Klang ist: ^_^. Vermutlich ist gerade diese unperfekte Pappmaschee-Bauweise für das Fehlen der Resonanzen verantwortlich. Wenn man ihn nochmal perfekt gerade basteln würde, klingt er vielleicht nicht mehr so gut... I still wonder about the playback is not horny at all: No annoying resonances, no metallic sound, no muffling, low distortion, wide frequency range, bass(!!!). This is not a horn. This is a monster. that is able to reproduce everything saved on the record.. It is hard to believe that it is working by wind-up and no electricity :-) It is hard to believe that such tiny groove can be amplified so high with pure acoustic technique. Most of those portable bluetooth loudspeakers have less bass reproduction than this.

What song is it?

Does nobody know, what song is played here? :-(

Almost Hi-Fi oO. How deep does the bass go (in hz)? What song is played here?

Great recording.

Brutal disco good job fellow Germans

The difference is amazing

wow music horn both:)))

wowowowowowowow

Lex van Spall was from Suriname and one of the pioneers of Jazz in the Netherlands. He made great recordings with Rosie Poindexter in 1934 that can also be found on youtube.

Hello Friend. This is really amazing. I study Germany film, here from Brazil. Can you send me the scanned pages of this article? Thank You!!!

It's cool seeing a club with all the different races jamming together (even though the darker members do unfortunately seem to have been a bit over animated in the scene)

i want to smoke what ever it is that got them to do that...

Echt Klasse! Das pustet ja alles weg!!!!

Fantastic, excellent tone & good job on thet Horn , well done !

At 0:52 he begins to tear it up. Seriously, no one played with a more energetic sound that Sidney.

The Triergon system ( Created mainly to add sound to motion picture films), for 78 rmp discs, consisted in record the original sound on film with the first practical system made for this purpose. The sound rercorded on film (optical systen) in the early days allows to record a range of 50-8,000/10,000 cycles per second. Better than electric recording on 78 rpm wax or acetate discs. After developing the film exposed with the sound recorded , a photo cell captures the recorded waves ( running the film many times slower than the original speed). The system worked this way becouse of the "memory" or inertia of the early photocells. This way a highest cualithy 78 rpm record can be obtained.

Even with this camera sound, to me it sounds like the band is in your room. Must me amazing in person!

Wie großartig. Hat jemand nähere Informationen, ob es von diesem Auftritt noch mehr gibt, wie der Film heisst etc? Ich wäre dankbar.

Your homemade machine sounds better and has better fidelity than most commercially-produced machines I've ever heard! Thanks for posting! I've added this record to my catch-all playlist of early Vertical-groove Pathé records here, enjoy!: kzbin.info/aero/PL8FIVvOuva84QzrLWX9rHv9iVsetTnKEV

My dad called Sidney -Sippy ,that's his NO. Name . I met him in Europe in late fifties, he was reminiscing with Kid -my daddy. Met Louis Armstrong for what would be 16 years of Louis &Trummy Young,&many more after Kid passed in73

Brilliant! Really Brilliant!

That's one massive horn! Is the playback entirely acoustic? I ask because I never heard so much bass from an acoustic pickup, or is there some hidden trickery involved?

Wait a minute I thought the the sound system in Germany was a another form of movie tone .this is confusing

Impressive!