Overexposing the sensor helps a lot. I don't use view assist because it's terrible; I tend to look at the waveform in N-Log. Also, you can film in N-Log at ISO 200. It redistributes the dynamic range differently but should be cleaner.

@@cinematools Thanks.

For sharpness tests, the lenses were stopped down to either F5.6 or F8, can't check the metadata now. The latitude tests were wide open to F4 at close distances, so it's likely a focus issue. Panasonic S5 6K is sharp, it's just less sharp compared to the Z6 III in N-RAW. 4K is softer on Panasonic and corresponds to other tests we've done with the camera.

Thank you!

Nikon's electronic VR also crops into video. I believe Sony's active stabilization with native lenses can be almost as good. Also, you don't need to use Catalyst anymore. Gyroflow stabilization is as good but the workflow is a breeze compared to the gyroflow.

@@cinematools That's incorrect in my experience. Sony has an electronic stabilization and it has gyro stabilization that can only be applied through Sony Catalyst. The problem is that to get an equivalent stabilization effect of say the Canon R5ii , Z8, Lumix S5ii on just native stabilization on Sony, you need to go to active steady shot + estabilization + gyro. Particularly with wide angle lenses it's very noticeable. Yes they all take some crop. The sony just takes a substantially bigger one. Want to reduce focus breathing because many of the GMaster lenses are not optically corrected for breathing? Then you need to enable breathing correction - this gives another crop. In other words, to get the same quality of shot that you'd get on say Nikon or Lumix systems with their more optically breathing corrected primes, you have to take a much bigger crop. Want to shoot animorphic? Both NIkon and Sony suck cause neither provides desqueeze in camera but more importantly the lack of opengate capability means that you don't have as much height available to you in your frame so you have to stand back further. Ironically in my experience, the Lumix (for 24p/30p 4k footage) is the more versatile. The Sony has nice specs, until you use it in the real world and realize that most of the breathing compensation and active steady shot already crop into your frame more agressively.

@@TomOhle1, you don't need to enable stabilization for gyro stabilization to work. In most cases, I keep the crop around 110%, which is lower than in-body stabilization. Nikon has pretty good stabilization, but I prefer flexibility in post-production. I don't shoot anamorphic, so it's not a problem for me.

@@cinematools that’s right you don’t need to enable e-stabilization with gyro . The problem is that native stabilization with say a Lumix s5iix is already so much better than the Sony that to match the quality you need to run active steady shot. Now you just applied a 10% crop. Using the 24mm GM or 35mm GM? Turn on breathing compensation… another crop. Yes it is a choice to do this in post, your quite right. However I do think it’s important for folks interested in the emount ecosystem to be aware that to get similar quality to other systems you usually (in my experience anyway) need to jump through extra workflow steps and/or be ok with the crop. The Lumix (personal favorite) is not perfect either. 4k60 is cropped to apsc :/ and there is some rolling shutter, but I prefer working with vlog the most for my tastes (personal preferences). I don’t particularly like NLog but LOVE what Nikon have done with Red LUTS. I also really like Sonys s cinetone. But those things are subjective :). In any case you have a new subscriber and I think your videos are excellent. I hope that my response is not interpreted as critical but instead as just subjective opinionated feedback from a new subscriber :) keep up the great work.

@@TomOhle1 thank you. No, not at all. I enjoy a healthy discussion.

Yes, you're doing double conversion if you use color management in Resolve. You need to bypass it and use Log material directly in Filmbox.

@@cinematools Thanks, Yes I figure that was the case. Thanks

Same here. I trained myself to judge exposure based on N-Log image with the waveform monitor enabled.

Thanks for watching. Yes, you can use an external recorder with it. I am not sure if Atomos supports nvme but SSD speeds should be enough for 6k 60

Thanks for pointing this out, that's a mistake. It's 4k 120P

There's no difference. We tested all available codecs on the Nikon and the DR is the same across all of them. We will write a blog post about it.

Better resolution, better autofocus, better color (subjective).

@@cinematools both 24mp? Lumix has live view composite, high res mode and even in hand held 96mp, pre burst on raw 30fps so 1.5sec of frames is already captured before pressing. real time lut so you can already shoot on the colors you like, and even edit or make lots in the labs app and send them to camera etc. I think the s5II is pretty loaded on photo functions :). I don't know about the Nikon or what functions it has

It's not. All modern lenses have the same MTF at f5.6-f8

Thanks. The sharpness tests are filmed at f5.6-f8 with modern lenses, which have the same MFT when stopped down.

It's not an issue in most scenarios. You just need to be careful when exposing but it's true for all modern cameras.

Yes, it is consistent with other cameras that we tested. It's not terrible but worse than other cameras on the market today. To mitigate the issue, it's best to keep the exposure at base or slightly overexposed even in low-light conditions. Higher ISO values and overexposing the sensor are better than lower ISOs and underexposing. Noise reduction can also help when dealing with undeexposure

Not at the moment.

Sigma 28-70 2.8 on S5 II and Nikon 28-75 2.8

@cinematools i know sigma art series is very good but you should have used native glass for lumix as well for the fair comparison anyways great video...

@@abhisheknarayandhyani731@ abhisheknarayandhyani731 the MTF is the same at F5.6-F8 for modern lenses, which we used for sharpness tests.

Lexar CFexpress Type B. No issues with 8k 60 RAW recording.

@@cinematools thank you! 4.0 Silver series?

@@fabiofilipeazevedo3840 this one www.amazon.com/Lexar-Professional-CFexpress-Recording-LCXEXPR256G-RNENG/dp/B0C1TQM4LR?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A28VBULWJ2FLXH

We used digital diffusion on some shots in the intro montage but none for the actual tests.

Thank you. The shots were mostly zooms, Nikon 28-75, and 70-180, which are rebranded Tamron lenses. There were a couple of shots with primes-28 2.8, 40 2, and 50 1.8.

It's in the video. H265 ISO 800

The color on Sony cameras has improved a lot over the years. And with LOG filming it's easy to match it to another camera.

I think if you shoot in standard mode, sony is not good, but if you shoot s-cinestone or log sony is great now. Also as Sony have more DR in log, you have more flexibility to color grade grade as tou like

Not that I'm aware of. Maybe on S5IIX with ProRes recording. But Z6III has noisier shadows than other cameras in this class.

No way when using internal recording. At this point I'm note sure it is really the noise reduction which make the video quality worse than the first S5, I think it's more because of some sort of detail filtering or lower actual resolution coupled with too much digital sharpening.

Thank you. Everything is in FX mode except 4K 120P, which has 1.5 crop.

no

Nonsense.

@@withoutpassidnonsense is believing lenses don’t matter.

@@madsonit it does but does it matter in real life? Will you use the same lens on both Sony and Nikon bodies? So when you compare the colorv, it’s not just the color profile of each camera body but the whole system (aka body and lens).

@@withoutpassid of course it matters. The test is about Nikon Z6III vs Sony FX3. Not Nikon system vs Sony system. In every research out there, to be relevant, you need stable data and equivalency. Each lens has different color rendering, different bokeh rendering, different sharpness etc. If someone has their channel containing “cinema” in its name, one would expect it’s cinema related, and no proper cinema professional uses sony of Nikon autofocus photographic glass. Yes, some commercials that want the clean look might, when they do a scene that needs autofocus, but most times they use actual cinema glass. And none of it is made by Nikon or Sony. But to come back to your question, in real world what matters more is that Nikon z6iii can record raw while the fx3 can’t. And that for starters is a huge difference and advantage for Nikon when it comes to grading and pushing your footage.

It's a good camera, especially considering the price.

It plays a role but it's not just that. For ISO and latitude tests Nikon is set to H265 which applies noise reduction. Panasonic S5 II in 6k is less detailed than A7 IV in 4K. S5 II sensor is not super sharp despite the resolution.

@@cinematools I don't think the S5II sensor is not super sharp, I found the raw files very sharp compared to my Sony cameras. The issue is not the sensor sharpness, but the processing they use in video, noise reduction, sharpening but I also suspect upscaled resolution (from a lower resolution) in order to reduce the processing power on the S5II.

@@aiseurnae5976correct, Panasonic is pretty sharp. I use a Black Magic video assist with mine and it’s super sharp. I also have BM Cinema 6k which is a tab sharper as far as detail. It seems the Nikon may edge out the Panasonic in detail but they both are excellent and with the Video features of the Panasonic, it’s hard to not like it.

@@MrJayclas The Panasonic is sharp yes but in a bad way, the fine details are not as good as they used to be on the first gen S cameras. The result is an image looking like upscaled and oversharpened. I suppose the image is ok for most people, especially influencers or people who don't crop a inside their videos, but the downgrade is real. The only way to bypass the bad details and processing is to use external recording.

Alexa costs 100k, it's in a different league.

All of these new cameras are pretty close. Once you add an external recorder for RAW, they are really close.

@@MrJayclas yes, the differences are pretty minor.