Tesla FSD 12 Needs Improvement
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@user-qm7be6nw9u
@user-qm7be6nw9u 23 сағат бұрын
bro you’re using 12.3.6 in August 2024 😂
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 22 сағат бұрын
Video was filmed and produced in July of 2024. This is the latest update available for HW3 vehicles.
@jjamespacbell
@jjamespacbell Күн бұрын
"As a human"? you would drive differently than FSD? So the car in front of you holding you up on the freeway was not driven by a human? Like so many testers you compare the car to your personal driving style, when you should be comparing it as a passenger in a Taxi or UBER. 12.3.6 is not NO NAG that is 12.4.X
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
Regardless of my driving style, the FSD software should in reasonable time determine the vehicle its following is forcing the Tesla to go 10mph below the speed limit while other traffic is passing at 10-15mph above the speed limit. An Uber would have gone at least the speed limit. The Tesla dropped as low as 55mph while traffic passed at a possible 75mph.
@jjamespacbell
@jjamespacbell Күн бұрын
@@AIAddict That's strange I have had UBER drivers that go way faster and way slower than I would, I never realized they weren't human.
@paulmeynell8866
@paulmeynell8866 Күн бұрын
Maybe you should show them how it’s done.
@matteoperron5436
@matteoperron5436 Күн бұрын
how come every single time you make a video, it's with an outdated version of FSD? all these issues have already been documented and addressed.
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
Show me another Paint It Black video addressing this in 2024? It takes a long time to edit, write, film and publish a video as a one man crew. Updates can come out quicker than it takes to produce a quality film. It is not done on purpose. Additionally, all HW3 vehicles are on 12.3.6
@ash98981
@ash98981 Күн бұрын
So how is it letting you use sunglasses?
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
I don’t know actually
@Roddy451
@Roddy451 Күн бұрын
4:11 I can see it will do the jerky "ping-pong" on the steering wheel during an off-ramp. That has got to be a bit annoying. 7:43 Here, it tends to cut the corner too far to the left. Even as it moved a bit forward at the intersection, it did a jerky left 90° turn on the wheel. This is something I noticed that happens a lot. Then, it completes the turn over the center and is very close to the left turn-only lane. I know, I know, some people tend to do that, but it is not proper. After so many years, This is the best they can do under optimal weather circumstances. Add a weather event, like snow on that off-ramp, and that jerky move on the steering wheel can lead to an uncomfortable yaw moment or, in a worst case scenario, may lead to a spin. A good, fair review of unfinished software. As many have posted; It will be ready "next year."
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I enjoyed reading it.
@asdfjklo234
@asdfjklo234 Күн бұрын
To Elon: Less tweetin', more fixin'.
@stefanandersson4818
@stefanandersson4818 Күн бұрын
Nice that there are guys like yoads upu that tells us what you actually see. To me it is just mind blowing that nobody sees that FSD actually only improved in impoveable areas of its capabilities. Leaving all other areas without improvement. As you touch on your summary. For instance that it cannot see bumps and holes, because it really cant, its impossible with visionin practise. Even as you say, when it knows of a speed bump through signs or road markings, it will not adapt to the actual steepness, because a camera can not see it. Radar and lidar, yes it can, maybe even ultrasonics to some extent. Why they still completely disregard road markings and so on, crossing solid lines etcetera. My hypothesis on that is that even if it most of times can see the road markings, it will be kind of late, especially at higher speeds. Due to viewing angle of course. Since Tesla instead of detailed maps discover the world ahead every second it has no idea that a lane in a couple of seconds will be locked in by a solid or other. Googles map data does not say this. So the plan laid assumes possibility to change lanes etcetera up ahead. Then all of a sudden it is forbidden. Adhereing to this new infromation the ride would become irratic and uncomfortable. So Tesla opt out to completely disregard this in all situations. The thing is. Most people passing a certain point on a road does it for the hundreth time, you dont even have to look at signs. Tesla does not read overhaead signs for some reason, which woulkd give a heads up. A small portion of passers of a complicated section is new to this location and will make mistakes, the first time. Tesla does it every time because it lacks memory.
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
Amazing comment, thank you for taking time to write this.
@ReinnerJutjup
@ReinnerJutjup Күн бұрын
ah - not 12.5.x
@Rahjhh5
@Rahjhh5 Күн бұрын
FSD 12 is not beta anymore, it is FSD supervised.
@sanjaygupta666
@sanjaygupta666 Күн бұрын
Supervised Full Self Driving - the greatest oxymoron in the history of the English language
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 22 сағат бұрын
I guess it was a Freudian slip lol
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 Сағат бұрын
Do you know what beta means? FSD is *absolutely* still beta software. It is in development, it makes frequent mistakes, and it cannot be trusted.
@kiankhan07
@kiankhan07 Күн бұрын
Once 12.5 goes wide can you test this route again?
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
100%
@sanjaygupta666
@sanjaygupta666 Күн бұрын
And it will still fuck it up
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 Сағат бұрын
12.5 or 12.6 or 12.7 won't make any difference. AI and Neural Nets is a fundamentally flawed design, for a trustworthy self-driving vehicle.
@santafehiker
@santafehiker Күн бұрын
I've always wanted to see if current version of FSD can do that. Cool to see that it can manage it. However, robotaxi is going to take a few more years.
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
Exactly my thought. It managed the route, but Robotaxi will need to be improved before I get in the passenger seat.
@sanjaygupta666
@sanjaygupta666 Күн бұрын
It didn’t manage the route. It’s good though to see a real life example of how people lie to themselves to build wilful ignorance
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 Сағат бұрын
Elon said 1 million robotaxis by 2020. How did that work out? omg Elan has no credibility.
@importon
@importon Күн бұрын
driverless will never happen at this rate
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 Сағат бұрын
Agreed. The fundamental design is flawed. A human is 99.99 percent competent, FSD will never ascend to that level.
@casvanmarcel
@casvanmarcel Күн бұрын
This progress is quite fantastic and unbelievable. It is pretty clear at this point it is just a matter of time till they get it safer than a human. You just need to see the amount of progress over the years. Let's goooo!!!!
@donwald3436
@donwald3436 Күн бұрын
@@casvanmarcel I don't think any of us will be alive by then lol.
@Dani-kq6qq
@Dani-kq6qq Күн бұрын
In 50 years. It takes a human child just one week to master driving
@sanjaygupta666
@sanjaygupta666 Күн бұрын
Are you taking the piss?
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 Сағат бұрын
It is NOT clear at all that the current buggy and untrustworthy 'Supervised' FSD will ever reach Level 5 full autonomy. That might never happen.
@charliedoyle7824
@charliedoyle7824 Күн бұрын
John, I like what you are doing, but you should make it clear up front in the video what exact version you are using, as in V12.3xx. The fanboys think each update is a "gamechanger", so they can claim you are trying to make their beloved FSD look bad unfairly by using an old version. They think V12.5 is 10x better than your version. They are wrong, but you should explain everything up front. And of course you need to do this again with V12.5 when you get it.
@mrd5024
@mrd5024 Күн бұрын
Hi I'm John and welcome to Jackass!
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
😂
@W4rH4wkXX
@W4rH4wkXX Күн бұрын
w00t.... thanks for the ride! it better get better for the robo taxi... or tesla is going to have big problems 🤓🤣
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
Hope so! We shall see 👀
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 Сағат бұрын
Tesla already has big problems. FSD is years behind schedule Robotaxi is years behind schedule Tesla Semi is years behind schedule Optimus is a joke, and can do nothing of value for a home consumer.
@akhilsharma2712
@akhilsharma2712 Күн бұрын
1IMPORTANT NOTE EVERYONE: This is version 12.3.x!! (NOT the new version 12.5.x)
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
The point of this film is to show that how FSD performs today in 2024 is the bare minimum it should have performed when Tesla filmed Paint It Black in 2016 and that despite lots of progress, not much has changed. Reports I have seen on Twitter from other Owners claim 12.5 performs much worse, such as by running red lights. FYI the vast majority of the Tesla community is on 12.3.6 or older. Regardless, what does any of that have to do with comparing it to the version tested in 2016 like I did in this video?
@SyntheticSpy
@SyntheticSpy Күн бұрын
@@AIAddictthe vast majority of reviews say it is much better, and there is footage of every version running red lights, stop signs, etc. as there is such a large fleet and the system is clearly far from perfect. This video definitely holds value showing the state of 12.3, but it is unfortunately outdated with 12.5 being out. I look forward to your test with that version when it comes to you as well
@SyntheticSpy
@SyntheticSpy Күн бұрын
It’s also an odd choice to not specify which version of v12 this is in the thumbnail. Your other v12 videos very clearly state the sub version, whereas this one just vaguely says v12. It may not have been intentional, but it definitely comes across like you are promoting this video like it is the most recent version
@akhilsharma2712
@akhilsharma2712 Күн бұрын
ohhhh bro you don't have 12.5 yet (probably on hw3), 12.5 >>> 12.3.6 haha
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
Like the vast majority of Tesla owners, yes, I am on HW3 Reports I have seen on Twitter from other Owners also claim 12.5 performs much worse, such as by running red lights.
@kyoyosho
@kyoyosho Күн бұрын
this drops after 12.5(.1) is already out?... check out other reviews
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
Okay? I’m comparing FSD V1 to FSD V12 to see how far progress has come in 8 years. If you are arguing about minor bug fixes between decimal versions that clearly means it hasn’t progressed much in those 8 years. The way FSD performs today in 2024 is the bare minimum it should have performed when Tesla filmed Paint It Black in 2016
@Supreme_Lobster
@Supreme_Lobster Күн бұрын
​@@AIAddict Why are you always so defensive?
@AIAddict
@AIAddict Күн бұрын
I am simply stating a fact? These individuals act like it does not take several weeks to put together a decent video. Updates will keep coming, that does not mean I won’t recreate the same video when I can on the next update.
@kyoyosho
@kyoyosho Күн бұрын
@@AIAddict i namely brought it up b/c it was announced/reported that 12.5 will be more than the usual point update... it allegedly will have a substantially lower number of disengagements/interventions.
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 19 сағат бұрын
​@@AIAddictMany FSD YT posters release their videos within hours of the drive.
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 2 күн бұрын
So Elon has been lying since 2016 or maybe earlier?
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 2 күн бұрын
That’s my opinion. But don’t trust me, I only helped train the software 👀
@InternetDude
@InternetDude Күн бұрын
@@AIAddict LMAO I paid for FSD in 2018, I got suckered back then. Glad to be Tesla free in 2024 though....
@robertwestrom6878
@robertwestrom6878 2 күн бұрын
Still
@robertwestrom6878
@robertwestrom6878 2 күн бұрын
Stull scary
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 2 күн бұрын
Certainly not Waymo smooth yet
@donwald3436
@donwald3436 2 күн бұрын
So it'll be ready in anther 8-16 years? lol
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 2 күн бұрын
Next year every year
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 2 күн бұрын
🤣
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 2 күн бұрын
👀
@cxsdr355
@cxsdr355 Күн бұрын
Tech grows exponentially… considering the state of 12.5.1 we are at the knee of the curve
@donwald3436
@donwald3436 Күн бұрын
@@cxsdr355 under the knee of the felon maybe lol.
@lesliemarks7554
@lesliemarks7554 2 күн бұрын
I have a 2013 model s 40kw , how much do you charge for battery swap?
@abbyNORMal8828
@abbyNORMal8828 5 күн бұрын
Do you have any intel on performance / speed number above 0-60MPH? Like 0-100MPH difference, or top end (max is 145MPH on stock Model3 LR)?
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 2 күн бұрын
I have tested 0mph to 145mph speed runs before upgrading to Acceleration Boost. I would be happy to go to an airstrip and redo the same testing after Acceleration Boost. I would be very interested to see the results as well. I will admit, I have achieved as low as 3.8 sec to 60 after this video was published but that is under ideal conditions.
@SilentFoster
@SilentFoster 7 күн бұрын
The car looks great but the video feels also biased and paid for
@mkhavok7370
@mkhavok7370 15 күн бұрын
How much was it and did they take the 75k pack as a credit towards the costs?
@DanielBenzs65AMG
@DanielBenzs65AMG 22 күн бұрын
Do they have that crazy hydraulic suspension?
@TSINED1
@TSINED1 23 күн бұрын
🍩 авто😉
@theodorehaskins3756
@theodorehaskins3756 25 күн бұрын
So why would you do this? This is a system that is voluntary, not mandatory, you don’t have to buy the car with this particular system. You don’t have to buy the car and have the system already before you drive off the parking lot, and like any system, nothing is 100% fail safe. So I just traded in my 2018 Tesla, M3, for a 2024 Tesla MS, and one of the reasons I did that was, because they allowed me to transfer FSD, which was then FSD (beta), and now its FSD (supervised), and not beta, and I’m currently driving on V12.3.6, and there is a new update out there, but I don’t have yet, which is V12.4.3, I believe, but I can tell you that my car today can drive a hell a lot better than I can. So can it detect every object that’s in its path, I don’t know, because I am not stupid enough to try to run my car into an object that I myself can see whether it’s a decoy object like the stuff you’re using or something else, because I am still the driver, it’s my car, it’s my life, and I’m not stupid, and I’m not trying to kill myself or anyone else. So this proves absolutely nothing, except that the people who do these kinds of things are just as stupid as the people who are willing to pooh, poo, a good idea, because they don’t like it, because they see it as a threat rather than something that could possibly save human lives. So I can tell you, my car has actually saved my life, and it has done so on more than just one occasion, because I almost, always drive using FSD, because that’s the reason I bought a Tesla in the first place, otherwise, I could just as well have bought anyone else’s car, because they don’t offer anything special or anything approaching the vision of Tesla in terms of what their future cars/vehicles will be capable of doing, because the car is the robot, something that most people don’t understand, and that Tesla vision is to remove the driver from the equation, in other words their future cars will not have steering wheels or pedals, so you won’t be able to defeat that system, the way you were doing it, because as a human driver, you need those things, but an autonomous car doesn’t need a steering wheel or pedals in order to drive the vehicle, and so the purpose of your video is really of no value whatsoever, because if you’re stupid enough to go to sleep while driving, if you’re stupid enough to say well I can do whatever I wanna do, because I don’t know, I’m just stupid, then you keep doing stupid videos like this, and people go oh yeah see I told you that it wasn’t good enough, no it’s a work in progress. That’s why they called it (beta), and now they’re calling it (supervised), meaning that it is your job to monitor and pay attention to what the system is doing, and be ready to take corrective action if needed, and eventually, we will get to where we want to be which is a level 5 autonomous driving car, and not only is Tesla FSD, ADAS driving system, not there yet, but neither are other guys, despite what Mercedes has been allowed to claim about their ADAS so-called autonomous driving system in Germany, and no place else. So please get a life, as this genie is out the bottle, and no one is going to put her back in the bottle, and if we in the US don’t get this done, you think China is going to quit? They won’t, and Elon Musk has already acknowledged that our greatest competition will come from China, and not these other guys, because they can’t make a decent electric car that people actually want to buy, and Tesla is selling cars, lots of cars, and in August, they are going to announce the launch of the Robo taxi in China, and not the states. Comphrende! Cheers 🥂
@nonviolence_peace6012
@nonviolence_peace6012 Ай бұрын
North America and Europe should take an advantage of cheap Electric cars frm China to fulfill our Global warming challenge. Like we use Uber instead of Taxi and we love boxing days and Black Friday for cheap things.
@sweetpea6230
@sweetpea6230 Ай бұрын
Nope. As an American, I will be supporting and buying from an American company. Go Tesla!! Go America!!
@anthonyheak3479
@anthonyheak3479 Ай бұрын
Not really a fair review if you have NIO reps with you.
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 2 күн бұрын
Similar to a Jay Leno's Garage video, they were purely there to answer questions I had or help correct any falsehoods I spoke from internet rumors. I was completely free to film, edit or say anything I wanted. I chose to have them there for fact checking reasons.
@anthonyheak3479
@anthonyheak3479 Ай бұрын
ET7 might be a nice car but it is not selling well
@anthonyheak3479
@anthonyheak3479 Ай бұрын
Chinese EVs are not coming to America anytime soon because of tariffs
@user-ew9gz1gy6j
@user-ew9gz1gy6j Ай бұрын
What will be cost for a 75 KW model x to 100 KW battery.
@cybertruck4988
@cybertruck4988 Ай бұрын
I would only buy a Tesla but I did invest in nio. So people who aren't smart enough to buy a Tesla buy nio so I can be rich 🤑 please.
@williamcox965
@williamcox965 Ай бұрын
Nice car but if needs repairs , where do you go?
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 2 күн бұрын
NIO has setup a wide range of Dealers and Repair networks across all markets you can purchase this vehicle.
@milesslack8513
@milesslack8513 Ай бұрын
This is the same prototype they've had for 5 years this is nothing but a scam
@thomasrongy
@thomasrongy Ай бұрын
The test must be repeated in 2024 !
@AIAddict
@AIAddict 2 күн бұрын
Lets do it!
@khan209i
@khan209i Ай бұрын
Wow, build quality seems really good. 👏 Good job Nio
@junnchai3987
@junnchai3987 Ай бұрын
I LOVE NIOOOOOO
@jorgipogi
@jorgipogi Ай бұрын
Those exposed lidars have to go.
@taloto07
@taloto07 Ай бұрын
Narrative is too obvious 😂
@TesIaCH
@TesIaCH Ай бұрын
It isn't FSD. It's Enhanced Autopilot. We have this in Europe.
@elir.torres8642
@elir.torres8642 Ай бұрын
They are going to destroy GM, Ford, and Chrysler if they dont get banned like Huawei first.
@corrada
@corrada Ай бұрын
Imagine to spend 2000 dollars to get a change in the software of the car that you already own just to make a slight change in the acceleration that according to this video is not significant nor it adds real value to the user… and this is coming from someone that would keep choosing Tesla as a favorite car
@mrb2349
@mrb2349 6 күн бұрын
This pseudo-argument has been defeated many times now.
@lovewingsmc
@lovewingsmc Ай бұрын
The people complaining about you wanting the tesla to go faster are definitely the same people camping in the passing lane.
@brianteague44
@brianteague44 Ай бұрын
Hey impatient ones...tesla took 9 years to even reach 65 dollars a share. NIO reach 65 dollars in 3 years since being on the market. Teslas ATH was 406 in 2021 and its now at 178 in june of 2024. Stop panicking NIO is not a crypto meme token. Things take time, u would be foolish not to buy, those who got at the opening price have lost parience because thats how this generation is. Thats why price is dropping, im glad they are selling. It gives me a great entry point because when this stock gets into the 100s and 1000s of dollars in the future ill be rich and many of you will be kicking yourselves for selling as this company is spending money to build its brand! NIO is gonna change my life and my childrens lives. Generational wealth is what I'm after, not a quick financial come up by a short armed selling mentality. 💎 hands over here, may Yah The Most High bless this company and it's patient holders. Not financial advice, if you did your research in what all NIO is doing you wouldnt be so skeptical right now. ✌️