Gottlieb Genie Restoration Update
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@folkerkrentz
@folkerkrentz 3 күн бұрын
I am impressed with the final product. Good work Chris! The wood pieces really seem to be of high quality, nicely cut, etc. I did have a chance to play this one. It was fun and I look forward to trying out many other retro games on it.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@trytotilt_pinball5810
@trytotilt_pinball5810 4 күн бұрын
It looks great ! Well done vidro too !
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@MRNBricks
@MRNBricks 16 күн бұрын
The “I’m upset because my camera sucks” commentary is pretty funny. 😂🎉
@ChapDDR-mk7qd
@ChapDDR-mk7qd 20 күн бұрын
You might want to get a LED OCD board. I also like the brightness LEDs give but I hate the loss of the warm up/cool down period. A lot of programmed visual effects lose fidelity due to LEDs not having thay by default in incendescant machines.
@JeffreyNero-sk6jv
@JeffreyNero-sk6jv 29 күн бұрын
Hi! Cool game and video; awesome cat! Do you REALLY need to strip it all the way down to clean? I’m new to pinball and have a black hole game-no way am I going that far when I eventually clean it after it works 100%. A complete tear down is daunting to me! All the best!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 29 күн бұрын
Haha thanks for the compliments about the game and cat! It's not necessary to strip the game down and clean it as much as I did. In fact most of the cleaning I did won't ever be visible to somebody playing the game. I partly did it that way because I like to learn by taking things apart, and partly because the tutorial videos I was watching at the time were really in-depth restorations that did similar disassembles. Unless you are trying to restore a game to 100% perfect, brand-new condition, which would probably include sanding, filling imperfections, and re-painting, I wouldn't recommend doing it this way. For an example of a restoration I did without fully assembling everything, check out my Lethal Weapon 3 series. I still probably disassembled the playfield more than I needed to for that one, but I left the head and cabinet mostly intact. Good luck with the Black Hole, that's a really cool game!
@JeffreyNero-sk6jv
@JeffreyNero-sk6jv 28 күн бұрын
Fascinating! Pinball games are very much like classic cars-all sorts of different kinds of resto. I’ll def have to check your other vids out. Great stuff! Thanks.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 28 күн бұрын
@@JeffreyNero-sk6jv That's an interesting point! It really is similar to cars in a lot of ways. You have people who collect the classic vintage ones, and people who prefer the newer, faster ones. You also have people who like to find old beaters and fix them up to make them beautiful collector's items, and other people who just want to have fun with the machines and ride them until the wheels fall off.
@MRNBricks
@MRNBricks Ай бұрын
This is coming along nicely. The shattering bulb from the auto plunger was funny, we all may or may not have done that. 😂 on cleaning inserts, you could try using like spit or alcohol on a qtip instead of a screw driver rag. Less chance of scratching and or pushing hard enough to pop an insert. At least in my experience.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 29 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I don't know why I didn't think about q-tips for cleaning the inserts. I probably just looked at what I had within arms reach and improvised. Definitely going with q-tips for the next one!
@LionheartRacingSeries
@LionheartRacingSeries Ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@darrenanderson4436
@darrenanderson4436 Ай бұрын
well done
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@user-ow2dh5rw5z
@user-ow2dh5rw5z Ай бұрын
Nice. In most instances I prefer mirrors over art blades. Actually have a set of mirrors arriving for my Jaws today 😎
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob Ай бұрын
That sounds great - that game is so bright and vibrant already that it will look amazing with mirrors
@Retromo
@Retromo Ай бұрын
This is Gold! Perfect filmed. I am new to the hobby and this helps a lot!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob Ай бұрын
@@Retromo thank you, and welcome to the hobby! I am happy if my journey to learn stuff is able to help others too
@masterjedi1lp
@masterjedi1lp Ай бұрын
looks great. nice work. hope you got those finger prints off that left side.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob Ай бұрын
Haha yeah I didn't notice the fingerprints until I watched the video back! Definitely got them cleaned up now
@masterjedi1lp
@masterjedi1lp Ай бұрын
Awesome. Look forward to your next video.
@pezjohnson
@pezjohnson 2 ай бұрын
I've never done the side art or mirror blades. Nice work on this. Definitely an upgrade for this game. And good work dubbing the audio. Sorry the original audio got lost. Thanks for the video.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Definitely a pain having to re-dub all the audio, which is why I was in a grumpy mood when I was recording it haha On most games I don't mind them having plain cabinet walls, but for some reason the walls on this one really stood out to me, probably because they were bright blue. The mirror blades definitely help with the claustrophobic feeling!
@folkerkrentz
@folkerkrentz 2 ай бұрын
Great work!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 2 ай бұрын
The mirror blades look very nice.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I just noticed the fingerprints on the left blade in this video lol
@marcobucci
@marcobucci 2 ай бұрын
Very cool series. And great work on the shop job!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have one more part coming... I had to do something about those ugly cabinet walls!
@MRNBricks
@MRNBricks 2 ай бұрын
Every girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man. 👍🏼
@krentzplays
@krentzplays 2 ай бұрын
haha that song is permanently stuck in my head now!
@pezjohnson
@pezjohnson 2 ай бұрын
Decided to watch the whole series. Great job from start to finish. Great choices on the light colors and leaving the incandescent flashers. Sometimes LED intensity can be too much LW3 GI flashing is pretty intense. Thanks for making the videos
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, that means a lot coming from you! I always enjoy catching your streams and checking out what you are working on
@seelan73
@seelan73 2 ай бұрын
instead of color DMD I suggest pin2dmd, it costs half the price and it's open source. There is a color file for LW3, here a vid of my repaired pin that I sold. basically went through all the steps you went, did not take it apart so much though. The Playfield was ruined, but I put a playfield protector anyways, helps with the balls rolling, when the PF is ruined the texture is different and the balls behave in a very strange way. Color DMD and LED Flashers were also installed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpSWnZd-l6xkn68
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 2 ай бұрын
That DMD looks great! I will consider this option, thanks for the advice.
@mwgnetway
@mwgnetway 2 ай бұрын
Funny I have a Lethal Weapon 3 as well that looks like your before, and may use your videos as a bible. Even funnier I also have a Phantom of the Opera, but that one is pretty clean... but might get cleaner if you make a video of yours :)
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 2 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! I swear DataEast games multiply more than any other. I record the videos mostly for myself so I can remember what did, but if they can help somebody else (especially learning from my mistakes) that’s even better I have Google docs with the list of bulbs that I can link and also my list of rubbers that I ordered from Titan (although I need to tweak it a little bit) if that would be helpful
@MichaelMahairII
@MichaelMahairII 2 ай бұрын
"Basically I just want everything to be shiny."
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 2 ай бұрын
Who wouldn’t!
@MRNBricks
@MRNBricks 3 ай бұрын
Have you looked into art blades? Like from Tilt Graphics? They’re pretty sweet.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
There might be something along those lines coming up soon...
@bdashnz
@bdashnz 3 ай бұрын
One tool that I found helped with removing the nuts from plastics without unscrewing the post is Titan's Pinwrench. It's a thin piece of stainless steel with a 1/4" notch in one end and a 5/16" notch in the other. It's thin enough to fit under a plastic and hold the hex portion of the post while you unscrew the nut from on top of it. Marcos sells a similar tool under the name Stud-Buddy.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I'll pick one up the next time I'm placing an order. Definitely sounds like it would come in handy
@jinkus
@jinkus 3 ай бұрын
Looking good!
@seelan73
@seelan73 3 ай бұрын
nice video. I really enjoyed it. Waiting for the next part.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! You shouldn't have to wait long...
@lokust_pinrat
@lokust_pinrat 3 ай бұрын
Can you link the ultrasonic cleaner and tumbler + medium you use? I'm about to start my own first project on this scale
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
Sure! So the Ultrasonic Cleaner is just one I picked up at Harbor Freight, but it is pretty much identical to this one: amzn.to/4bYN06g For the Tumbler, I ordered a Berrys 500 model with an extra bowl so I could have one filled with walnut (better for removing heavy corrosion, won't polish as shiny), and one filled with corn (lighter and polishes better). For heavily corroded parts I start with walnut for 24 hours and then do corn for 24, with a spoonful of Mothers Mag and Aluminum polish in each bowl. For parts that are in decent shape, I just use corn cob to polish. Tumbler: www.berrysmfg.com/product/ber-qd-500-vib-tumbler-110v Walnut medium: amzn.to/3R69biP Corn cob medium: amzn.to/3VjOgv2 Mothers metal polish: amzn.to/3X8921Y
@lokust_pinrat
@lokust_pinrat 3 ай бұрын
@@ThePinballNoob Thank you! Picking up a Sorcerer for restoration work next week!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
@@lokust_pinrat nice! That’s an awesome game
@rmlaws250
@rmlaws250 3 ай бұрын
Nicely filmed. Informative. Useful and helpful guidance. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jinkus
@jinkus 3 ай бұрын
Yes, thank you!
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 3 ай бұрын
was going to make a joke about using an ultrasonic cleaner on the parts because this looked like servicing a wristwatch. then oh
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
Ultrasonic cleaner jumpscare
@MRNBricks
@MRNBricks 3 ай бұрын
I got a buddy with a really gnarly project machine of phantom. I’m trying to get him to sell it to me. Love the art.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it really is a great looking game, but unfortunately there is a lot that can go wrong
@grantbeals6008
@grantbeals6008 3 ай бұрын
Awesome! I know it was in a sorry state, but what an amazing find. I wish I could find something like that for 200 bucks. Do you have an estimate on how much you've spent total?
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Let’s see… the new all-in-one board was nearly $500 itself. 5 new displays probably around $250 total, $100 for new plastics, $100-ish for new rubbers and LEDs, $100 for legs. Probably a final $100 for all the miscellaneous parts like connectors, pins, wires, coils, etc. All in I would estimate around $1200 total with almost half of that just being the all-in-one board, but that was definitely worth it and made the game pretty much bulletproof, no fiddling around with unreliable 40 year old boards.
@grantbeals6008
@grantbeals6008 3 ай бұрын
By Pinside average price it's still a steal! Nicely done.
@Jenda-ld8dj
@Jenda-ld8dj 3 ай бұрын
how would you go about finding these connectors on the company website?
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 3 ай бұрын
I found a site that had the 3D printer schematics for them, and they linked to a site that you could order the 3D prints from. Pretty cheap too! This blog post covers it: www.lisy.dev/gtb-edge-connectors.html
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 3 ай бұрын
i thought this would have been.. impossible
@TiltingT
@TiltingT 3 ай бұрын
Great that you caught that!
@gregordiseth6651
@gregordiseth6651 4 ай бұрын
We pinball owners know that feeling all too well!
@mwgnetway
@mwgnetway 4 ай бұрын
Great game picked up mine 2 years ago
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
Awesome! Is yours fully working?
@gregordiseth6651
@gregordiseth6651 4 ай бұрын
Looks amazing! I'm just finishing up restoration of my own Genie. For now, it just has #47 lamps. Where did you source your LED lamps? I'm thinking of just replacing the feature lamps with LED's to start.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have some other videos that go more in depth about what I did to fix up the Genie. I went with Comet bulbs for the Genie and all my games really. They aren't the cheapest but they are great quality and they have a really good selection that cover pretty much any type of bulb you could want. They have bulbs that simulate the not-so-bright yellowish color of old school incandescent lamps, up to super bright pure white bulbs. I went somewhere in the middle for my Genie - I did what they call "Sunlight White" bulbs which are in-between the super white and the more yellowish whites. I also color-matched the inserts according to Comet's color guide: www.cometpinball.com/pages/the-art-of-pinball-leds
@gregordiseth6651
@gregordiseth6651 4 ай бұрын
@@ThePinballNoob I watched several of your videos, and I plan on watching the rest, thank you! My only nagging electronic issue is annoying AC hum from the speaker, I replaced all of the capacitors on the sound board hoping it would help. Same with the power supply. Probably not as noticeable in a noisy arcade environment but definitely at home.
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 4 ай бұрын
incredible looking machine hope all the work goes well!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@ACDNate1
@ACDNate1 4 ай бұрын
The 12 pin header looks a little crispy as well on your power supply.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice, I actually ended up replacing that too after the fact (when I did the capacitor replacements at the very end follow-up bit). Not sure if it was bad enough to cause problems, but it's never a bad thing to replace it with a new one!
@ACDNate1
@ACDNate1 4 ай бұрын
@ThePinballNoob good prevention. The DE PSU is pretty reliable once you replace the caps and headers you replaced.
@MichaelMahairII
@MichaelMahairII 4 ай бұрын
Back in action!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
This is proof that you watched the whole video
@LeebosPinball
@LeebosPinball 4 ай бұрын
Nice work! I had the same crispy connectors on my DE TMNT. Definitely satisfying when all fixed with fresh headers and connectors.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
Yes, and a big improvement over soldering the wires straight to the boards! Have you had any trouble since fixing yours?
@LeebosPinball
@LeebosPinball 4 ай бұрын
@@ThePinballNoob no, it’s been solid ever since. I LED’d mine too so the drop in current loads will likely mean those connections will last indefinitely now. Always good to fix it right. It kinda puzzles me when I come across hack jobs like those soldered wires instead of fixing it right. Not really all that much more work to do it right and reliable.
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 4 ай бұрын
The transparent drop targets look so good it’s a shame they break
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
Gotta suffer for fashion
@ChrisHiblerPinball
@ChrisHiblerPinball 4 ай бұрын
Happy to help! Thank you!
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
You're the best when it comes to pinball repair!
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 4 ай бұрын
hahahahahahaha
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 4 ай бұрын
Fixing these machines up is one thing, but PLAYING them??
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob 4 ай бұрын
Nobody has ever tried it before
@TiltingT
@TiltingT 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely playing them! There are leagues and tournaments happening all the time and new leagues popping up all over the world on a regular basis ..it's a great time
@MRNBricks
@MRNBricks 9 ай бұрын
Love the wide bodies. Look forward to updates!!
@krentzplays
@krentzplays 9 ай бұрын
I'm sure there will be many updates to come haha
@davidmorgan4122
@davidmorgan4122 9 ай бұрын
Good luck with this project. It looks good overall. You have some work to do. Fun, fun,fun!
@krentzplays
@krentzplays 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Hopefully I haven't gotten in over my head
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 10 ай бұрын
Atari Middle Earth! I love this machine
@krentzplays
@krentzplays 10 ай бұрын
You are always talking about how much you love Atari Middle Earth
@krentzplays
@krentzplays 10 ай бұрын
Great content! This is a real comment and not just me commenting on my own video for the algorithm!
@box-botkids3267
@box-botkids3267 11 ай бұрын
Loxly knows how to hit her cues.
@zigzagzoggo
@zigzagzoggo Жыл бұрын
Outstanding achievement in game restoration. Thanks for sharing.
@ThePinballNoob
@ThePinballNoob Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment!