Yeah, they're perfect for that mate. Being genuinely one handed helps in that regard too I think.👍

Not anytime soon mate. I'm much more likely to get the new Lo55 router first. I don't work on site anymore and am workshop based. Only use a jigsaw now and again so the old corded mafell will suffice.👍

Cheers👍

Yeah, the Bessey look alright to be honest. Pretty well priced too, especially compared to Festool. I was thinking they'd be my replacement if the Wnew ones went but, they're still working well. And now BG have sent these Duratec, I think I'll be alright for a bit.😁👍

@@BischBaschBosch yeah, I think you're all set now 😂

Cheers mate 👍

Nice one mate. Cheers👍

Nice one mate. Hope you like em. Hard not to at that price!😁👍

@@BischBaschBosch will come in handy as making a vanity and wall unit soon

Good luck with the build mate👍

That's strange. My Wnew are really loose. Their dogs measure 19.5mm on mine. I wonder if they've changed the size for a fighter for since I got mine? The new duratec ones are a closer fit (19 8mm) but even so, with their extra force, they'll lift up. Just become habbit using the star knobs now. Either are a great buy I think.👍

@@BischBaschBosch 19.8mm, according to my cheapie calipers. I guess they did listen to feedback. Mine are 2 or 3 years old maybe.

Aww no! What's brought on getting rid of your gear mate?

@@BischBaschBosch the slow slog of downsizing in order to quit the country :)

Hmm...we've had a couple of conversations about that. Hope you can pick up the WW again wherever you end up👍

@@BischBaschBosch aww hoefully im gonna be on a 45ft yacht sailing west! not much need for a bandsaw for fibreglass :) but the way the worlds going there will be plenty of work for rebuilding it 😁

Yeah, you never really know how these things will hold up. The Wnew have been a pleasant surprise. They look a bit beat up now but work as well as the day I got em. Here's hoping the Duratec last as well👍

Nice one man. Hope you get a good price. The hold downs in particular are a joy to use.👍

Agree. For the quality of tool, it's great value. Btw - assuming you have it - the little thumb screw behind the protractor for releasing the indexing, if you add a washer to it, it will fully lock down when pulled back, disengaging the index feature. Useful for half degrees if needed. 👍

Thank you mate👍

Thanks Ken. I think they change quite often. The ones they have in-store now seem much more robust than my ones. With budget quick clamps, it's luck of the draw really. Like the excellent red ones I show I bought from rutlands as a job lot. They don't do those ones anymore. Once you start paying Irwin quick grip money and above, they're all dependable. Pony Jorgensen, piher, dewalt and, of course, Bessey do fantastic quick clamps if you're flush.👍

Hey Ken. Yeah, p&p brings it up to around the 50 quid mark. No idea why the shipping is so high on this.🤷‍♂️

Cheers👍

Cheers mate. Nice to do something quick and simple now and again👍

Can't quite remember now. Sorry to say I dismantled the carriage as I was too right on space. Have plans to make another though. I think my 8mm plates were something like 90x190mm. Couple of points to note if you plan to make one similar: they way I made it was more a problem solving example, dealing with my unusual saw motor placement. Use this as a guide than one to copy. C9nsider your own saw and needs etc. Second, if I make it again, I would have the bearings attached to the saw frame and the rails on the sliding carriage - opposite to what I show here - as this would mean you get all the space back when you take the carriage off. Hope this helps.👍

@@BischBaschBoschMany thanks 🎉, I will do more homework to make it work😂

@@BischBaschBosch Thank you very much for your reply😄. Could you explain more about your answer?-- "Second, if I make it again, I would have the bearings attached to the saw frame and the rails on the sliding carriage - opposite to what I show here - as this would mean you get all the space back when you take the carriage off."

@@RANDYSWORKSHOP No probs. You'll see in the video I attach the bearings to the underside of the sliding carriage. The 1m long rails I attache the the table saw frame. I would do the opposite next time - long rails attached to the carriage, bearings fixed in place to the table saw frame.

@@BischBaschBosch Thank you so much 🙏 If so does that mean the bearings are fixed to the table saw frame whereas the rails are attached to the carriage plates and moves along the rails? And what is the benefit of doing this way opposite to what you did in your video?

😂 I thought the same when I was shown one and asked to make it. Still, people do seem to like them.

Cheers dude 👍

😂😂

I suppose if you made a temple to follow, you could do it with a router. Use the cnc technique of leaving 1/2mm of material to stop it breaking away. They'd still be fairly quick to cut just using a hand fret saw too. Depends how fit you feel I guess.😁👍

Nice one buddy. Give em a go.👍

Broke my heart but had to sell it unfortunately. Was just too big for my tiny workshop. It's at a good home though👍

Thank you👍

Cheers. Same mate. In fact, I've got a bunch in in the watch list still! These all cut well. I was pushing them a bit but they coped alright. Crazy for the money. 👍

@@madmango6705 Thank you so much!🙌

😁 Fair question mate. It depends on the joint, size of meeting faces/edges, wood grain orientation, many things really. Seasonal movement on my chair/table frame mitres is miniscule but, some of them take a lot of stress. The rock solid bond of cascamite is preferable. Suits my atypical designs. There's pieces I've made over 30 years old using cascamite, still solid. I use more forgiving glues on table tops, panels and doors. 👍

Thanks, I'll give cascamite a try! It was good to learn about everbuild, I've been using titebond but D4 is half the price! I might give 502 a go as well.

@@madmango6705 Nice one. If you give cascamite a go, be very sparing with the water you add. It'll look like you haven't added enough but, then it melts. D4 has the same properties as titebond 3 - indoor/outdoor. 502 is your run of the mill pva but has great hold. Great value glue is everbuild.👍

Very kind. Thank you 👍

Just had a look. For lock mitre bits, that looks perfect. Wouldn't work with the butt lock joint bit shown in the video unfortunately. Given me an idea to make one for it though.👍

@@BischBaschBosch yep, only need to test once lol.

Cheers mate, I'll certainly take a look. The method I show here works pretty well but, if there's a better way, I'm all for it. Great bit for drawers👍

Thanks man 😁👍

Thank you too👍

😁 Cheers man

Think I've cracked the method for the lock bit now but, love a book recommendation. There's always some pearl in them. I'll keep my eye out. Cheers.👍

@BischBaschBosch he also wrote a book called router magic. It is a brilliant read, lots of out there techniques.

Me neither really mate, not at this scale at least. I've used some massive flute and bead on spindle molders though. Great to try these. I've never any qualms expanding the router bit collection. 😁👍

Nice one. Didn't think about tambour. I like it. If your mate had more costly edge band cutters, they were probably from wealdon or Whiteside . The latter about 60 quid a pair I think. Nothing wrong with these BF edge band bits that I can make out. Perfect balance and blade edge. Something about my set up or approach wasn't working for them though. For the life of me can't figure out what.🤷‍♂️👍

😁 Cheers. The sled is an Enjoywood one (see my last video for review😉). It's t-slot bar is 19mm though so, if your track is 19mm outside wouldn't fit. Maybe get a piece of the 30mm track with 19mm slot for your table? This opens up options for just getting a proper mitre bar for a diy sled, or buying a sled.👍

@@BischBaschBosch Thanks - will check it out. Only just added the track to my table but easy enough to swap it for a wider type if I want to! The joy of a home made router bench. Always pains me that the two most common track systems are both '19mm' but totally incompatible. Certainly makes searching for parts more difficult 😂

Tell me about it! I just order a bit of track for my router table extension. Got the 19mm outside one when it was the 19mm inside I wanted😂🤦‍♂️

Thanks buddy.

Nice one. Same. I much prefer it now they're doung their own designs and collaborations. They clearly have the design and machining knowledge to continue their own unique product line. 👍

Nice one mate. Hope it serves you well. Loving mine for laying out larger slabs. Recommend having somewhere on the wall for it or some such. Big old thing to have knocking round the bench and risk damaging the rule.👍

Hey, no problem. Countersunk m6 machine screw into an m6 sliding t-nut for fixing the ply to the profile. 👍

@@BischBaschBosch thanks!

Thanks mate. Certainly makes cross grain routing easy.👍

Cheers mate. Valid point I think. The plate itself is only 8mm thick, so there would be a risk of shear. Not on the bolt itself (if it were on the clamp posts) but the aluminium threads on the plate. That would depend on the type of aly used. Perhaps a slot system would work for them? Just frustrating to use as is. 👍

In a good way I hope 😁. Do like to give the tools a proper look.👍

@@BischBaschBosch I have watched at least 5 reviews of this Coping Sled including the original from Dennis [Hooked on Wood] and yours was the most comprehensive. As an extra I mentioned your upgrade to the Benchdog Fence to Ralph at BD Tools. He was impressed. To make it your way would need a wider profile which would increase cost though.

Appreciated. Thank you. Collaborated with BD before (the dog collars) and reviewed a fair bit of their gear early days. Felt a bit messed about though so stopped all that now. That said, the fence needn't be larger and more costly. You just need the current extrusion laid flat rather than standing upright. I have the extra 2020 on top of mine to allow for 2 fixings in each fence dog but, that's not essential. Just a preference of mine. 👍

My router table/table saw is also self made - just blinged right up with accessories! 😁 I never mean for my reviews to come across as "you need this, go buy it" though. They're just a look at what you can expect for your ££s. 👍

@@BischBaschBosch thats how I saw the review, its a nice to have item which looks really good. But as a hobby user even when considering the reduced selling price its a lot of money for what is basically an Ally plate with two handles and clamps.

⁠​⁠@@garyhenderson9303I disagree. Your analysis of the coping sled “just ally plate, handles and clamps” is quite naive. I could say that my table saw is just a cast iron top with an electric motor. The reality is the price does include the development costs, the material costs, the tooling costs, the marketing costs, the shipping costs and profit. If you don’t want to pay for a table saw, fine, use a hand saw; if you don’t want to pay for coping sled, make your own; if you don’t want to pay for timber, go scavenging. The choices are there. For me, it’s always a trade off between time, accuracy, convenience and cost but your equation may get different results. I made my own coping sled out of profiled aluminium and sliding clamps. I used as much as I could of bits I already had but, buying the rest, still cost me £40. It was fine but not great. I therefore bought this Enjoywood sled and its improvement is tremendous. The cost equates to about 2.5 hours of a normal charge rate for a good joiner. Yes, a hobbyist may not be able to justify to themselves the £85. But that is a different argument to disputing the cost based upon an ally plate, handles and clamps

Appreciated. Cheers mate👍

They don't do one. Just plans for using their their t-tracks and accessories to diy one.

@@BischBaschBoschI’m a great fan of Incra although the initial purchase cost always hurts- but not so much as Woodpecker. I haven’t bought duplicates of anything made by Incra and Enjoywood and so can’t make that comparison (although if Banggood want to send me a table saw mitre fence and a router table positional fence, I’m happy to try). I can say that everything I have bought from Enjoywood has been as accurate as I need it to be - by which I mean that any variations in dimensions is no more than I would expect using natural materials with built-in stresses. I might feel different when I get around to building that Hydron kaledisoscope.

I love the Incra ls positioner. Very unique and functions at a high level. Most of their other kit I find just on par with many other brands. Nothing exceptional really. Enjoywood seems to be trying to reposition itself. For the most part, their offerings have been basic and budget, if adequate. Some of their recent accessories appear to be at the more mid level to premium market - like this sled. Keen to see where they go with it. If we can remove ourselves from the all too common anti China bias - or at least from the "cheap crap from china" presumptions - it becomes obvious they are, at least with brands like Hongdui, able to compete in terms of design, accuracy and quality with the best of the West.

@@BischBaschBosch I will not understand how people can love products made via slavery, the products might be ok but china rip off companies and this will lead to no inovation and then you will moan

@@BischBaschBosch the positioned is a great piece of kit - but I find the split fence a real pain to adjust accurately - quite possibly me. Your thoughts on made in China are interesting. When I was young, made in Japan had all the connotations of cheap rubbish - look at how that has developed. I am aware that Chinese manufacturers can and will make items to whatever quality their customers demand. Cheap and horrible? No problem; really well made and a delight to use? No problem either. We certainly can’t assume that tools that look the same (eg the model of bobbin sanders that are everywhere) are the same inside. The workings, the precision of the components, will vary depending upon what the client wants. Buyer beware. As much as I am no fan of the governments of many countries, I think we can safely say that the Chinese government is particularly repressive. So, are we, in buying from Chinese companies, aiding the Chinese government? Without doubt. Should that, morally, stop us buying from these Chinese companies? That’s much more involved. My decision is/was that I would not discriminate on the country of manufacturer but based on my decision on the item as objectively as possible. I have bought quite a few tools from selected Chinese manufacturers and have not been disappointed in their accuracy and quality. Perhaps, I have been lucky. We have just placed an order for an additional 34 solar PV panels, 5 batteries etc. etc - all from a UK company but the items were made in China. In all cases I could have bought American or European or whatever. But at a significant financial cost to me. Is it more moral to give more of my hard earned cash to a US company? I don’t think so .

Cheers. I only became interested in one from seeing all the profiling and joinery routers bits available now. Mighty impressed with the clamps on the sled. My mft versions haven't arrived yet but, hopefully they're just as effective. Link in description for em if you need it😉👍