Wait in the first scenario you would have had to pile in with the other models in the back?
@deathguarddisgustinglyresilien10 күн бұрын
Just a heads up the DG list you posted was rank #54 but the highest DG placing was Don Hooson's double defiler build in #9th Place, No shade on Eric he still did really well just wanted to make sure you got the right info mate good vid though still fun to see builds
@Odyssey40k10 күн бұрын
thanks mate! I missed Don's name when checking the faction rankings (which is where I got the information for this video). Don's performance was outstanding and he really showed the power that DG can bring at the moment
@tomwise650411 күн бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown, I am Blood Angels player and I feel like this with the rage filled warrior captain could be messy. Could even add a priest to the unit to make weapons Ap1 and Ap3 🤔
@Odyssey40k10 күн бұрын
if you throw a captain with good Enhancement in with sternguard you create an amazing skirmishes unit that can be a real problem solver
@tomwise650411 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great video, it was informative and a good breakdown of some LVO lists to get me thinking of some list changes for the latest edition of 40k
@wurutana11 күн бұрын
where can you find these lists?
@Odyssey40k10 күн бұрын
best coast pairings (bcp)
@stewartgardener810411 күн бұрын
I was just looking to put them back into my army as I had kind of slept on the Anti 4+ for the combi with Dev wounds, especially with their change to the re-roll wounds against the oath of moment target. Curious as to your thoughts on which loadout you would use for them. I am thinking Combi for all except for the one taking the Heavy Bolter. Question would also be would you equip the Sergeant with the combi and forgo the Power fist or leave him with the standard Sternguard Bolt Rifle?
@Odyssey40k10 күн бұрын
I personally think the extra shots from the standard sternguard Bolt rifles and hitting on 3s over the combi weapons 4s. it's slightly less damage against infantry, but marines, and especially blood angels don't really have issues with infantry. so the extra damage against vehicles and monsters can be really beneficial
@758richy11 күн бұрын
10 man Sternguard with bolt rifles, led by a Librarian with Fusillade in Librarius Conclave, is just a whole lot of fun. The 4++ from the Libby puts in work. Using Incursors to make them hit on 2s feels like it's breaking the rules somehow...
@Odyssey40k10 күн бұрын
it's truly a magnificent thing
@squeakstar8011 күн бұрын
Love that mustache.
@Odyssey40k11 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@taithoby845812 күн бұрын
Love a 12:30 AM upload
@Odyssey40k11 күн бұрын
no rest for the wicked
@MatthewCupples13 күн бұрын
needs bookmarks in the video
@Odyssey40k13 күн бұрын
done mate!
@Tiger-qt6pb15 күн бұрын
Where did you access the lists?
@Odyssey40k15 күн бұрын
On Best coast pairings and searched for LVO.
@PartNinja15 күн бұрын
Foot Autarchs can only attach to Guardians. Can't attach to aspect units. Weird pick. Probably needed to save points and couldnt take the wayleaper.
@Odyssey40k15 күн бұрын
Thanks for that, wasn't sure myself. I think the foot autarch has a place in lists purely because everything is so expensive in Aeldari lists now
@Pascalm1doing40k15 күн бұрын
I miss imperial agents. 😢 i start that army as my 5th army and need some Inspiration with what to start 😅
@Odyssey40k15 күн бұрын
I have an interview I did with my friend Ashley on Agents and we went through some of the key units you want in your army. I'd recommend giving them a look
@DavidVanCleef13 күн бұрын
There was an Imperial Agents list at LVO that went 3-3. There was a second list entered but which didn't compete after the first round for reasons unknown.
@azumaakazuma930516 күн бұрын
Are there no Black Templars at LVO?
@Odyssey40k15 күн бұрын
I realized I had missed a couple of factions or subfactions! really sorry about that
Great coverage of the best players in each faction and what they’re bringing to LVO! Enjoyed the brisk pace as well, thanks for the content!
@jfm.d51802 ай бұрын
Anyone here after worlds? Well well welll
@bobdole88302 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the Arbites are pronounced Latin, so not ar-bites but ar-bee-tes
@peterpedersen37533 ай бұрын
You mention that knights and Custode is hard to balance. Most people point to the 2+/4++ being the problem, but how come grey knights aren't in the same boat? They are a 2+ across with a lot of 2+/4++. If Custode didn't exist wouldn't grey knight fill the slot, and if Grey Knights didn't exist wouldn't DA fill it. So people don't like the tanky terminator profile?
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
I think all those factions are on a knifes edge, if they are costed too aggressive, they get spammed and aren't fun to play against. but if they are costed too cautiously, they aren't fun to play with. it's not the durability perse that is the problem, it's how many bodies of that durability you can muster in your list.
@ColonelMetus3 ай бұрын
He needs to spend more command points on his audio
@benrunciman43993 ай бұрын
You two sound like you'd also enjoy Kill team. Cheaper to play a faction, competitive, standardized terrain layouts across the global competition scene.
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
I need to give killteam a go at some point, I do love the easy to setup nature of killteam but more models = more fun for me! also we have already invested so much into all the models for 40k haha
@benrunciman43993 ай бұрын
@@Odyssey40k sounds like you already have kommandos. You can never have too many models
@Lightning90603 ай бұрын
As someone looking to get started in 40k in NZ, are there any casual or just fun events to dip your toes into? I got one or two mates at work but that's kinda it.
@chriscook65473 ай бұрын
Most clubs run casual or more social events. Just depends where you are located
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
I'd say the average event caters for most levels of play. you may have 1 or 2 games over a weekend that are against the truly "competitive" players. but you will still learn a lot from a game against them. if you are based in a larger city, often gaming stores run 1 day events, which are definitely catered to be more fun. Flick odyssey40k on Facebook a message if you want a guide on where you can start playing around you :)
@lukeparuman90323 ай бұрын
Editing is very cool, meme game is on top form today :)
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked the editing! thought I'd try add some personality too it as well 😄
@jakebarratt4533 ай бұрын
Thanks, for making this. I now understand a bit more about what the cool kids are saying.
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
you are more than welcome. Thanks for commenting on the last video!
@NZWarsmith3 ай бұрын
good meme game this episode
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
thanks! I hope it wasn't too distracting from the content.
@GameDesignsbyElise3 ай бұрын
Easy to follow 😊
@runeh30223 ай бұрын
I think youre under.estimating the potency granted by 3 of the Ultramarines characters in this update tbh. Not saying they're A tier, but I'd argue a C tier for "generic" SM as a whole based on Ultramarines alone.
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
Absolutely could be the case. UM Vanguard looks like it could be making a resurgence, as well as Gladius with roboute guillaman.
@druwhite13883 ай бұрын
Give Codex marines reroll wounds and different points than the rest of the codex complaints
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
Yeah, old oath might be too much, but I'm ready for it! bring on vanilla marines Meta!
@runeh30223 ай бұрын
I hope they instead does something like "I Epic Character X is your Warlord and all other Epic characters in the army have the same chapter keyword, then you get army benefit Y".
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
@@runeh3022 What about getting point reductions on the specific chapter units? White scars get mobile elements cheaper, Ravenguard get Phobos for cheaper? Seems elegant and easily re-balanced if points are too cheap?
@runeh30223 ай бұрын
@@Odyssey40k personalu I'd rather see some units gain some value for some chapters, rather than a decrease in points. Like White Scars taking someMounted units as Battleline for example. This would make the codex comliant chapters more unique and interesting, beyond just saving some points somewhere.
@davidjones47723 ай бұрын
Don’t know how tau go from a sub 50% win rate mid table for event wins to 3rd best faction. Nids have also been on the rise and are now 8th overall for win rate and been taking some events, reckon they could be A tier.
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
yeah I had a practice gsme against crusher since recording and they are quite strong I think. might have to do a recap 1 month in and see how close the list was.
@seththemaddok87503 ай бұрын
If orks arent top dog by the end of this video I am going to have to get vengeance the next time I see Hayden. Just Hayden though
@NZWarsmith3 ай бұрын
sound was a little quiet
@Odyssey40k3 ай бұрын
thanks, I noticed this after uploading. I will make sure to check audio better for next upload!
@Kakashi-ip8mg3 ай бұрын
I so want to hate this army. But I love the building the arbites and the breachers.
@jakebarratt4534 ай бұрын
What type of lists are there? I've heard of defence lists but what is that type of list and what are the other kinds? It seems like teams have their own language. Can you be our dictionary?
@stuntman0834 ай бұрын
Ask the Lord to heal your soul so you can accept the name you received at birth
@benjaminkost45162 ай бұрын
What are you talking about?
@InquisitorJoey17 күн бұрын
😂
@byLemon124 ай бұрын
Love me some Ollie Johnson! Keep up the great work lads ❣️
@Odyssey40k4 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@jamesloder86525 ай бұрын
You can't put Deathwatch in a Chimera. The only unit you're allowed to put in a Chimera is the Inquisitorial Agents squad.
@Odyssey40k5 ай бұрын
thanks, we caught that after recording! will try to be more on top of that next time.
@jamesloder86525 ай бұрын
@@Odyssey40k how badly does that affect the army in your opinion?
@Odyssey40k4 ай бұрын
@@jamesloder8652 I Spoke to Ashley and he doesn't think its a huge impact. You just take Rhino's if you need transports, the guns you got from the chimera were negligible.
@Psykroids5 ай бұрын
Yeah the chimera can only take Inquistorial agents and Inquisitors infantry(The infantry part only means the characters not models like Karamosov or the old Ordo Malleus Inquisitor termie.). Nothing else. Its the same ruling case as the keyword conflict between thr Neurotyrant and Zoantropes. The Zoantropes can walk through ruins, the neurotyrant cannot. In this case the Inqisitor can enter a Chimera but any infantry any inquisitor is leading CANNOT enter the transport. Therefore the Inquisitor who cannot be detached from her bodyguard unit cannot embark inside of a Chimera. On that same note. The Priest can only join a Inquisitor in IMQUISITORIAL AGENTS units, nothing else. They need to FAQ this stuff because the Chimera is not even a transport and the fraking rhino in rhinos meme.
@Odyssey40k5 ай бұрын
agreed and well written. It's not instantly obvious that the inquisitor and his unit can not embark within the chimera. GW could make this much clearer for players.
@ThingoftheDeep15 ай бұрын
@@Odyssey40k it for sure could have been more clearly written. And I’m not sure why GW was so worried about limiting who could get in a chimera (unless they thought agents players would immediately bring 6 chimeras if they had the opportunity to do so?)
@HB2K-h8m4 ай бұрын
Sorry I don't understand this. An inquisitorial chimera has the transport keyword and can carry inquisitor infantry and agents models. A standard inquisitor has the inquisitorial agent key word. So an inquisitor can enter an inquisitorial chimera. So can the agents. For named inquisitor characters they can also get in and inquisitorial chimera if they are with agents via authority of the inquisition since the unit they are leading can embark within. They could also get in an Imperial rhino with any squad from the codex. Perhaps I'm not understanding what you're getting at. Do you mean an inquisitor leading a load of death watch can't embark within the chimera? Isn't that obvious from the way authority of the inquisition is worded?
@Psykroids4 ай бұрын
@@HB2K-h8m It reads Inquisitor Infantry and Inquisitorial Agents. Models led by an Inquisitor do not gain the "inquisitor" keyword it belongs to the unit not the model. Transports go by model to model basis. A great example is on the Inquisitors which have a specific ruling that says "yes this model can go into a transport with the same unit it leads." then because the chimera doesn't state "Agents of the Imperuim" which is the army tag keyword, not INQUISITORIAL AGENTS, and says "Inquisitorial Agent" as a tag, only Inquisitorial Agents, the acolyte and with servitor unit, can embark inside of a chimera. I know it gets confusing but those are the rules.
@HB2K-h8m4 ай бұрын
@@Psykroids Yes I understand I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at, but that's because I always assumed chimera is inquisitor and inquisitorial agents only. Never occured to me anything else can embark in it (and amazed if any tournament TOs have let this go)👍🏻
@100timesmore5 ай бұрын
Care of the rules spelling for the transport, it's not said "inquisitor infantery UNIT" but it said "inquisitor infantery MODELS" so no "trick" with chimera and immolator, but i see it sad that the breacher didn't have a access to the chimera.
@ThingoftheDeep15 ай бұрын
came to comments to mention this. chimera is totally limited to inquisitors and inquisitoral agents, which sucks
@Odyssey40k5 ай бұрын
yep, you are right. Sorry for spreading misinformation there. Thanks for bringing it up, I'll pin your message so people can see it.
@ratri49692 ай бұрын
It's crazy because allowing more units in this army to take Chimeras really changes things for the army. The Rhino is just terrible fire support for Arbites whereas the Chimera really helps them out.
@GameDesignsbyElise5 ай бұрын
Add fairies into the list
@GameDesignsbyElise5 ай бұрын
Woo! Go New Zealand!
@adamcamilleri99705 ай бұрын
Eyyy thoroughly enjoyed the show mate! Welcome to the content train <3
@Odyssey40k5 ай бұрын
thanks mate!
@lukeparuman90325 ай бұрын
Excellent! Love this.
@kauwhata15 ай бұрын
content!! nice bro
@sakicfiend19215 ай бұрын
8:17 tiger shark 🎉🙏💐 Craving the post WTC analysis
@MeAndSomeRandoms6 ай бұрын
Hey Im pretty sure Chaos bikers cannot go back into reserves anymore, with codex release that ability went to the Warp Talons didnt it?
@Odyssey40k6 ай бұрын
You are completely correct! Sorry for the mistake mate, and thanks for letting me know.
@MeAndSomeRandoms6 ай бұрын
@@Odyssey40k No worries, aint easy keeping track of all the changes all the time ;)
@franciscoventura82826 ай бұрын
I'm Francisco from Portugal, thanks for picking me up, I'll certainly try to give you some points!
@Irongrip096 ай бұрын
good luck mate! i played you on the statcheck league with my tsons!
@Odyssey40k6 ай бұрын
Hey mate!! that's all I can ask for. I'll try find you before the event and give you a team nz dice for good luck!
@758richy6 ай бұрын
That crusher stampede list is so much fun. I think people underestimate just how efficient old one eye by himself is for his points, he outperforms my expectations every game where I use him, so I totally understand running him. The three Rupturefexes was unexpected, though! Looking forward to seeing what this list goes into and how it performs.
@Odyssey40k6 ай бұрын
yeah, definitely a cool list, and after checking Old One Eyes datasheet, he definitely is a beast to deal with. after the event, I'm going to try to do a breakdown of what lists worked and what didn't, so stay posted for that in a few weeks time.
@758richy6 ай бұрын
@@Odyssey40k With the Crusher Stampede strat (Untrammelled Ferocity) that lets monsters move through terrain pieces for 1CP, Old One Eye can really come in like a wrecking ball if he catches a unit out of position. Look forward to that video, will keep an eye out for it!
@johannes82706 ай бұрын
@@758richyits a bummer it does not work in the charge phase. Still great tho.
@Odyssey40k6 ай бұрын
yeah, makes me think that knights of shade for Chaos knights will change to movement only when they eventually get a codex.